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How can a ham and cheese sandwich be more green than just a ham or cheese sandwich? Surely a veggie sandwich eg humus or egg would be even greener?


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 8:20 am
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Hah.

This is nothing to do with sandwiches.  It just shows the huge amount of resources and energy that go into so many aspects of our Western lifestyle.  Most of the food we eat is the same.  And the clothes we wear, the bike stuff we buy, the crap we waste our money on cos we're bored.  I'm surrounded by it right now as I sit here.  And when we strive for 'economic growth' as a good thing - this is what it is.

And 'going green' isn't eating a ham and cheese sandwich - it's making your own ham and cheese sandwich, according to the article. Or just cheese being presumably better.  Buying convenience food is worse for the environment.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 8:26 am
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And ‘going green’ isn’t eating a ham and cheese sandwich – it’s making your own ham and cheese sandwich, according to the article. Or just cheese being presumably better.  Buying convenience food is worse for the environment.

Indeed. I've brought my own cheese 'n' onion today.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 8:34 am
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Ham would be arguably better than cheese environmentally. But Molgriips has it - everything we do now has an environmental impact, scaled up to 70m people it's always going to be big and comparable to a number of cars on the road. Move along please


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 9:15 am
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No, don't move along - think about it every time you buy something...


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 9:20 am
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Molgrips is bang on.  And it depresses me quite regularly now I have kids (and therefore am genuinely concerned in a much more close to home, even selfish, way about what the world will look like in 50 years).

And yet, I'm absolutely inextricably bound into the whole "system" myself.  As I sit here typing this on my PC, in my home, on a forum for my expensive hobby that feeds constant streams of money into industry that is no better (or no worse) than everything else.

And the COP21 and G7/G20 summits laud themselves on progress, but the fact is, it's getting fixed.  Buying a Prius rather than a diesel Citroen doesn't make a (real) difference, Eco-conscious washing machines don't make a (real) difference.  Hundreds of times a day, every day, I do something that hammers another nail in our collective coffin.  I hate it, but I can't stop myself.

So ham and cheese sandwich?  FFS...


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 9:26 am
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Agree with orangesypderman.  I'm in the same situation - locked in.

Extremely difficult to massively change, but I think there are a lot of small incremental things you can do that would help, but don't solve the problem overall.

1) Eat wintery foods in winter.  Cauliflower, cabbage, kale, leeks, sprouts are in season, if you don't like them find a way to cook them that you can deal with.

2) Keep stuff for as long as you can.  This goes for everything

3) Recycling isn't an answer.  Reducing is.

4) Don't buy pointless crap.  My colleages laughing over a 'selfie gnome' doll someone bought.  Seriously, this shit has an impact.

5) If you want stuff, look second hand, and move your stuff on when it's done with.

6) Fix stuff.

7) Do without where you can.


 
Posted : 25/01/2018 9:33 am

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