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Geraint starting in pink.
Not sure how long he can keep the jersey.
Looking at that weather, it may not stay pink for long.
I don't think Remco will go to the Tour, Quickstep only have so many climbing domestiques and they stacked them in Giro to assist him, with a seperate team getting ready for Tour with more sprint/ classics type guys to look for stage victories.
So i think the Giro team will all now have Vuelta as target
That weather is seriously miserable - not what you'd expect in Italy in May!
Full on winter kit for many of them. The descent is going to be SO cold!
I reckon this'll get abandoned at some point. Top of the hill maybe. Race the climb, get into the buses. To race that descent in these conditions would be insane.
I'm feeling cold just watching it!
Ug.
What would it take for organisers to mandate clip on mudguards for these conditions? Especially now with all bikes on discs.
Would be a great way to develop some truly tidy lightweight clip ons.
Riders would surely be glad of it?
another grime day @ the tour of wales. les miserables
crazy-legs
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That weather is seriously miserable – not what you’d expect in Italy in May!
Part of the fun of the Giro is that there always seems to be one stage raced in winter
Alexander Vlasov has abandoned, he was 6th on GC.
Riders would surely be glad of it?
AFAICS not even many arse savers in the peloton
Mudguards are about the least aero thing you can fit to a bike short of full on panniers.
Even the Belgians are saying this is some of the worst weather they've seen!
Mudguards are about the least aero thing you can fit to a bike short of full on panniers.
That's why they'd have to be mandated for all at the beginning of the stage. It'll never happen, although it would be a good idea in the same way F1 is thinking about it
this must have cheered up Remco 😉
Want to grab a free ShakeDry jacket? Just hang around at the side of the route today and wait for someone to throw you one!!
That’s why they’d have to be mandated for all at the beginning of the stage
Yep, a bit of solidarity, all riders benefit, less risk of tummy trouble, a cushy tie-in for a manufacturer to develop something with carbon blades, 'aero' stays and glorified hinged clamp style P-Clips rather than silly wee perishable rubber ladder straps.
Even room for advertising on top of the blades 😂
proof, if proof is needed, "aero" rain kit is crap! ineous rider in something seriously baggey 🙂
well they've rolled through the top of the climb so it looks like we maybe going for the full parcours.
My Velogames team is in tatters 🙁
Yeah, the forecast is for general improvement plus it's seems better at the finish.
Ineos rider in something seriously baggy
That's practically a puffa jacket 🙂
SO cold. So very very cold.
The footage from the finish line looks MUCH more like May in Italy! The race right now looks like Wales in February 🙁
Weather obviously improving cos they've got the helicopter up now.
Mild hyperthermia here we come.
What hideous conditions. I'm surprised there haven't been crashes on this descent.
Tell you what - if I ran into a wall and snapped my forks I wouldn't be casually leaning on a wall. I'd at least be sobbing at the expense of replacing them.
Will Barta has snapped his bike in a crash, though thankfully seems uninjured in himself. Jay Vine down in the same crash. I knoew Jay VIne has high in GC, didn;t realise Wlil Barta was up there too despite BOTH of them being in my velogames team
https://twitter.com/writebikerepeat/status/1658466398371471361
Mudguards are about the least aero thing you can fit to a bike short of full on panniers.
Not claiming to have the answer here... but covering/shrouding the top part of the wheel - which is moving at twice the bike's speed - should have some benefit. whether that outweighs the extra drag from the guard being wider than the tyre is up for debate.
Mudguards are about the least aero thing you can fit to a bike short of full on panniers.
Now there's an idea - riders to carry their own jackets and bidons in panniers.
Tell you what – if I ran into a wall and snapped my forks I wouldn’t be casually leaning on a wall. I’d at least be sobbing at the expense of replacing them.
Unless I had a team car a minute or two back ready to give me another free bike.
There are downsides to being a pro rider like having to ride in conditions like this but one of the definite bonuses is unlimited free top end kit.
Well that's pleasing if Cav can get back and make a shot at a result...
Offff more down and a mechanic not following the green cross code.
I like the pink Giro train alongside the riders.
This is going to be close - 1 minute, 18km to go...
Come on Cav....!!
here's that green cross code incident
https://twitter.com/AnnamacB/status/1658485067768008708
I didn't realise the maglia rosa group contained cav - any other sprinters in there?
Breakaway surely
Yay! I'm number one. Go 'team No Gnocchi'. Stay upright 'G'.
B'hop how did you manage that......no wait.... Ineos boys I see:) , meanwhile everyone else dropping down list;) like snakes and ladders!
cvilla - I decided that Remco may not make it through the mts for the whole 3 weeks (not due to covid), also was thinking that Primoz may have a bad fall, so had more points to spend wisely, time will tell. I have knocked my nephew (Pass the Maio) off the top spot into second place though, whoops.
Love watching Magnus Cort win. He gives the break full commitment and also manages to outfox everyone without resorting to cat and mouse games in the final. He’s got a reputation for a fast sprint but I think that might be as much his mind as his legs.
Yesterday's stage was unexpectedly gripping to watch although it looked thoroughly miserable to ride. Much of the same today - both terrain and weather wise so possibly another chance for the sprinters after yesterday's win by the breakaway.
https://inrng.com/2023/05/giro-stage-11-preview-tortona/
St B pass out of Fridays stage
It's amazing how less beautiful Italy looks on the telly.
Covid properly ripping through the peloton, Quickstep lose FOUR riders today
https://twitter.com/robynjournalist/status/1658735372854079489
with the last 3 probably socially distancing (and shunned by the peloton) it's going to be lonely 12 days!
Yesterday's breakaway win was enjoyable to watch, for me a sprint finish always seems quite stressful, especially as Cav seems to hit the deck at least once in any one race.
Not sure there is time left for Cav to win a stage, fingers crossed.
There's going to be no-one left at this rate!
Currently, it really is Ineos' race to lose.
I suspect though with Covid transmission rates and the period between infection and being symptomatic that half the rest of the peloton will be positive, even if they don't yet know it. Bike races (especially the rooming together, bus transfers etc) are not exactly sterile, social distancing environments...
Wouldn't be surprised if Ineos lose a rider or two, following on from Ganna. Yesterday's conditions won't have helped riders teetering on the edge of grottiness.
Trek-Segafredo's Natnael Tesfatsion out with flu symptoms
AG2R's Andrea Vendrami out with covid
Yesterday’s conditions won’t have helped riders teetering on the edge of grottiness.
Today isn't much better - and most of the race has been in decidedly poor conditions so far!
Bad luck for Sepp Kuss if he's down too. I've never met any of these riders but Sepp is one of my favourites for some irrational reason. And not just cos of his name 🙂
Bad luck for Sepp Kuss if he’s down too
I'm watching The Breakaway but I'm about an hour behind live coverage - they were saying Sepp has been travelling and staying separately from the rest of the team for a few days now, even down to changing in the car rather than on the bus. Im assuming this is for fear either of him spreading something, or catching something, rather than him being ostracised 😀
ather than him being ostracised 😀
Maybe Italian food makes him fart ...
Jens Voight on the motorbike is brilliant! What a legend.
I do like Jens on the bike, did a sportive with him on, he must have ridden twice as far as everyone, as he seemed to be making a point of riding with every single person on event and chatting, dropping back, catching up and really friendly..
My top tube has "Shut up legs and his autograph on"
He was at the opening night of a Trek shop in Manchester a few years ago where he did a short talk and presentation and he was hilarious. Stories from his time racing, weird and wonderful pics. Really deadpan.
Jen Voight was on a one man breakaway in the 2014 TdF. He was a blur riding through Gunnerside, Yorkshire Dales at the age of 40 (I think), from that day on I was a huge fan.
'Shut up legs' by Jens is a great book.
I was at that crazy-legs....the man is a legend.
Trivial observation - mechanics not using electric wrench to change wheels. Surely would be a time saver?
was that a parrot?
Tao... ☹️
I see G is also practicing his falling off again.
top three all down! tao looks bad
Poor Tao, that looked really bad.
Sivakov was also down. G got up quickly, Sivakov looked to be waiting for a bike but Tao is in the back of an ambulance.
😥
Looks like Oscar Rodriguez is also out in a separate crash.
Damp/greasy roads...
G having a significant chat on the radio.
Tao and Rodriguez both out, Tao in an ambulance 😥
Not watching the end of the race now have to catch up later
interesting point by Kelly of running in team order in that situation. perhaps when the race isn't on the best play is to space your team out in the peloton.
G having a significant chat on the radio.
Asking for a decent tyre sponsor maybe...
This is just turning into a war of attrition, it will be last man standing at this rate, wins..
Anyone think there is an issue with italian authorities freshly tarmacing these roads in the run up, so they seem to be treacherous and oily in wet?
Jayco making friends 😀
It's surely a sprint today
There's Cav being piloted towards the front. The catch is imminent, sprinters teams starting to form, Trek up there for Mads Pedersen.
Wow that was tight, who won that?!
Cloooooose!
Not even half a wheel between the top 3.
Maybe a tyre width between 1st and 2nd.
Whew!
Cav went a second too early ?
possibly, but the wheel he was following was starting to go backwards. Just encouraging that he's getting back to competitive (and in fact must be pretty battered after being down almost as often as G)
Good to see Cav's racing brain working, he positioned himself well and looked good, lacking that bit of top end of the others, Milano seemed to be going 5km/h faster than the rest..
I'm going to spend my evening scratching my head trying to get my head round the statement on the last page that "the top of the wheel is going twice the speed of the bike". I'm sure someone can explain.
Jen Voight was on a one man breakaway in the 2014 TdF. He was a blur riding through Gunnerside, Yorkshire Dales at the age of 40 (I think), from that day on I was a huge fan.
I was on the Cote de Grinton as he soloed by. The crowd were loving it.
So, following on from Tao's crash we are down to one "leader" per team. No-one to chase down an attack other than the other leaders.
The hub is going the same speed as the rest of the bike. The bit of the tyre that's in contact with the ground is stationary and the top is going twice as fast.
Ah, speed relative to the road rather than rotational speed, allora capisco!
https://twitter.com/INEOSGrenadiers/status/1658926576753360896?t=Bhq4P-TUe--P3cECop1xrA&s=19
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He was on good form.
So, following on from Tao’s crash we are down to one “leader” per team. No-one to chase down an attack other than the other leaders
Ineos have Arensman in 9th, 2 minutes down, he's a credible threat