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Giro d'Italia 2023 thread (incl velogames)

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Agree with post re Di2 gears. Why would you take the risk the with electric gears when non-electric are so good and reliable?


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 10:34 am
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Because the purpose of the tours are to a) promote the area being ridden through; b) to give exposure to the teams & their sponsors; c) (crucial to this issue) to provide a shop-front for manufacturers to sell us lovely shiny new bikes and equipment, in a proven environment.
Replace the latest Dura-Ace groupo from the tour with a retrograde cable operated system? It'd be like going back to 23mm tyres and rim brakes. It's not progressive, therefore it's not justified by the price tag (and profit).
Personally, non-electric operated ftw.


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 11:04 am
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Agree with post re Di2 gears. Why would you take the risk the with electric gears when non-electric are so good and reliable?

Because Di2 are mostly extremely reliable too.

Mechanical gears will also break if knocked or crashed, cables can break or get kinked, levers can be smashed... 🤷🏻‍♂️


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 12:06 pm
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Because Di2 are mostly extremely reliable too.

Mechanical gears will also break if knocked or crashed, cables can break or get kinked, levers can be smashed… 🤷🏻‍♂️

When have you ever managed to kink or break a gear cable during a ride? The only time I've ever managed it has been while performing cack-handed maintenance.

The derailleur can get bent. The lever can break. The pivots can start sticking. These are all things that can happen with Di2.

In addition, it can randomly stop working for no apparent reason.


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 12:33 pm
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Sorry, sorry, I shouldn't have kick started this old argument again, can never be 'settled' without having actual numbers of mechanicals to compare, as opposed to anecdotal/confirmation bias 😎


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 12:37 pm
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Ineos pushing on a bit at the front, a few riders starting to struggle on that climb. At least the weather has improved, that descent looks nice.


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 1:49 pm
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Roglic in trouble again - looks like he's had a small crash at some point and now a bike change forcing him to chase back on.


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 3:51 pm
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Napoli looks mental


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 3:53 pm
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Thomas caught out


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 3:55 pm
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Thomas caught out

Just back into the peloton but I reckon the team will cop a load of fines for that drafting.
This is tense, going to be a close finish. The breakaway should just barely get it by the skin of their teeth...

Edit: OK I was wrong!
That was really close.


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 4:02 pm
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Caught with 200 to go! They started faffing

Pederson in my team get in


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 4:11 pm
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Absolute idiots - they deserved to lose !!!


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 4:12 pm
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Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory 😂


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 4:14 pm
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Absolute idiots – they deserved to lose !!!

The Italian guy was a complete anchor. Much slower descender, you could see Clarke having to back off to wait for him and he didn't appear committed to the run in.

https://twitter.com/LVCKV/status/1656675352993992705?t=f_gXo_Nw1M0AZR-cisS4og&s=19

I see Cav is continuing his run of bad luck. ☹️


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 4:29 pm
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I guess it's a question of values - they preferred to have a 0.1% chance of winning against a 90% chance of a 2nd place. Maybe why I'm a boring guy on a forum and not a pro athlete!!


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 4:38 pm
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He’s getting all his bad luck out of the way before the Tour! Just one clean run to the line…


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 4:44 pm
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He’s getting all his bad luck out of the way before the Tour! Just one clean run to the line…

His team have said he needs two stage wins to guarantee a Tour de France start


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 7:40 pm
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Bloody hell, Eurosport highlight show didn't seem to think the Amalfi coast merited a single snippet of footage 🙄


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 8:07 pm
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Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory

They seem fairly pragmatic about it.

https://twitter.com/IsraelPremTech/status/1656682353320955905


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 8:35 pm
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Simon Clarke rode MvdP's wheel all the way to 2nd at Amstel in 2019, it works both ways

and can someone get Jonathan Milan a stronger bike, as he looks like he's going to pull the thing apart, and maybe a bigger gear above whatever monstrous thing he seemed to be doing 190rpm on

but on we go, up above 2000m tomorrow


 
Posted : 11/05/2023 11:48 pm
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but on we go, up above 2000m tomorrow

Yes, Gran Sasso.  A place with some notoriety...  Skorzeny and his men landed with gliders on the top of it to rescue Mussolini in 1943.


 
Posted : 12/05/2023 9:38 am
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another miserable day @ the tour of wales 🙂


 
Posted : 12/05/2023 11:40 am
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ffs this is a miserable procession.


 
Posted : 12/05/2023 4:09 pm
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One for the purists today……….

boring…….


 
Posted : 12/05/2023 4:27 pm
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One for the purists today……….

boring…….

Oh good, I'm no longer bothered about missing it!

I'm working on the Lincoln GP this weekend so no Giro for me then either.


 
Posted : 12/05/2023 5:03 pm
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Racing was a bit of a snooze-fest but I've been to Abruzzo on holiday a few times and it was interesting to see the helicopter shots of familiar places! I think it's a bit overlooked as destination. Also the setting for the George Clooney film "The American".

Enough for the tourist office ...


 
Posted : 12/05/2023 6:29 pm
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a televised 6.10 min training ride does not make a sport.


 
Posted : 12/05/2023 6:30 pm
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I was all excited as I had Bais in my velogames team, only to realise that I've got his brother. Balls.


 
Posted : 12/05/2023 7:08 pm
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Great day for Remco though. He doesn't need to attack if his tting keeps to the same level.


 
Posted : 12/05/2023 9:41 pm
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Always have to remind myself on stages like today that even the dullest grand tour will have some action at some point.

Gran Sasso looked a lot like Glen shee today.


 
Posted : 12/05/2023 10:47 pm
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Ganna out with Covid.


 
Posted : 13/05/2023 10:47 am
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That blows, was really looking forward to seeing Ganna pulling up trees on Stage 9.


 
Posted : 13/05/2023 11:01 am
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Ganna out with Covid

How many is that out with COVID now? Seems like there's a dose going through the peloton (slight exaggeration).


 
Posted : 13/05/2023 11:35 am
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a few, think the issue is that they've been quite poorly, as according to the EF cannodale chap you can still ride with a positive test.


 
Posted : 13/05/2023 11:46 am
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Did I hear right, 49km/h average so far?


 
Posted : 13/05/2023 12:36 pm
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Did I hear right, 49km/h average so far?

That's not unusual if it's a long old battle to get a breakaway established.
Now that it's gone, they'll sit up, the gap will go out dramatically in very short order.


 
Posted : 13/05/2023 1:08 pm
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does Remco want to ride the TT in his own kit ? or do we get his trademark 45min/1hr threshold effort attack ?


 
Posted : 13/05/2023 1:30 pm
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remco struggling


 
Posted : 13/05/2023 3:52 pm
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****ing odious, do a bloody turn.


 
Posted : 13/05/2023 3:57 pm
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Goooooooood racing. Oh yeah.


 
Posted : 13/05/2023 5:30 pm
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Great race by Ben Healey and good to see Primoj have a dig.


 
Posted : 13/05/2023 8:07 pm
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So were the Ineos twins on the limit getting back to Primoz, or were they letting him go to chase back to and they’re actually in better nick?


 
Posted : 13/05/2023 10:04 pm
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My reading was that it was a twisty ol' descent and Primož is known for being a risky descender so they were giving him a bit of space. They started working pretty soon after hittng the flat.

Just watching the highlights and the way the break was within a few seconds of getting caught early on but just kept riding was incredible. Full commitment. Love to see it.


 
Posted : 13/05/2023 10:14 pm
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I vote for a 3 week tour made up of stages like this. 2 weeks would do.


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 9:48 am
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Wet TT today. Looks 'fun'


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 1:22 pm
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how do you drop a chain off a single ring and a chain keeper ?


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 1:37 pm
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Ooh - strong performances by the Ineos guys, and not too bad from Roglic. If Evenepoel does not improve his climbing performance over yesterday's showing he may well be going home empty handed.


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 4:29 pm
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Pleasantly surprised to see Thomas and TGH right up there, and ahead of Rog. Could make the whole race much more interesting.


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 4:59 pm
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Yeah that was a good TT for the GC, and great to see Geraint back up there, and not fall off 😁


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 5:07 pm
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Beaten by the little bastard. But only by 9/100 apparently.


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 7:12 pm
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If 'G' didn't have the teeny skiddy moment, he'd have got the stage. Good effort for the Ineos team.
Ganna's going to be missed from now on


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 9:04 pm
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https://twitter.com/antmccrossan/status/1657847050224955398?t=Zji7mYawImWpHtyNHqeazA&s=19

😳😳
This is going to be another of those Tours that's decided by Covid rather than actual racing isn't it...
☹️


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 9:38 pm
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Imagine being so good that getting covid means you don’t get the winning margin you’d expect in a GT TT.


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 9:56 pm
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Wow. I tested positive for COVID for the first time about 6 weeks ago. It floored me for a week, i could get up to eat then had to go back to bed. It was another 3 weeks before i felt ready to get back on a bike.


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 10:01 pm
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Wow. I tested positive for COVID for the first time about 6 weeks ago. It floored me for a week, i could get up to eat then had to go back to bed. It was another 3 weeks before i felt ready to get back on a bike.

that you though, irrelevant

another Giro with an asterix for Tao then 🫤

call it off, bin it off, why are we still testing for covid?


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 10:13 pm
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why are we still testing for covid?

Because it’s a highly infectious disease that can still have serious health consequences.

For every Remco who gets away with (reportedly) mild symptoms there’ll be a handful of folk still off racing having caught it ages ago.


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 10:29 pm
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Why are people still asking "why are we still testing for covid"?


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 10:36 pm
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Because it’s a highly infectious disease that can still have serious health consequences.

like a lot of things then 🤷‍♂️😂

Majka carried on during the tour with covid "low viral load" same with Jungels,

anyway, lets not derail the thread with covid chat even if it's relevant


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 10:46 pm
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Why are people still asking “why are we still testing for covid”?

it's the only thing they are good at testing for though eh 😘


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 10:50 pm
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perhaps he can have a crack at the tour now ?


 
Posted : 14/05/2023 10:59 pm
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That's my already shit velogamea team ruined 😱


 
Posted : 15/05/2023 6:35 am
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That’s my already shit velogamea team ruined 😱

Reckon the current league table may get tipped upside-down! Damn my lack of faith in G. Sorry G. 😂


 
Posted : 15/05/2023 6:50 am
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Ouch..that's a bit of a blow for Remco and the Giro... it was lining up nicely.

But could now give the INEOS boys some ammo to attack and head up the hills for a win?


 
Posted : 15/05/2023 8:25 am
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But could now give the INEOS boys some ammo to attack and head up the hills for a win?

Assume they'll be tag-teaming Roglic the way Rog and Vingegaard did to Poghacar on tjhe TdF ?


 
Posted : 15/05/2023 8:27 am
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Oh dear, I fat this is not the end of it Covid- wise. Probably a few more won't return after the rest day.


 
Posted : 15/05/2023 8:31 am
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It's only a matter of time before Roglič or Thomas have a big off.


 
Posted : 15/05/2023 8:31 am
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It’s only a matter of time before Roglič or Thomas have a big off.

Thomas has been vertical for a week now, which must be something of a PB.


 
Posted : 15/05/2023 8:36 am
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Remco did mention in his post itt interview, that he wasn't feeling too well for the first part of the tt.

So pleased I didn't put him in my velogames team now.


 
Posted : 15/05/2023 9:08 am
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More importantly I was definitely going to win the STW velogames league before Remco and Ganna got Covid!
And what was Adam Blythe saying on Eurosport something about "Thomas told him that Roglic had told him he had Covid".
Remco for the tour!


 
Posted : 15/05/2023 9:08 am
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Must be pretty depressing for the others when the guy with covid still beats you

Would love to see him up against the top names in the tour


 
Posted : 15/05/2023 11:47 am
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The consensus I understood was that roglič was kidding when he spoke to G - apparently someone had started the rumour he has covid. I certainly hope that’s the case cos I think staying in the race with covid would be a dick move.

Of the two Ineosers, Tao has been looking more sprightly than Geraint on the climbs so I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go on the offensive now.


 
Posted : 15/05/2023 2:28 pm
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Oh dear, I fat this is not the end of it Covid- wise. Probably a few more won’t return after the rest day.

Nope, it's not.

Sven Erik Bystrøm (Intermarché) tells will race Giro d’Italia with positive Covid19-test and mild symptoms:

https://twitter.com/Fredagsvik/status/1658126639316729862


 
Posted : 15/05/2023 4:57 pm
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Whilst it’s very unlikely they will cause harm to anyone other than themselves by continuing to cycle whilst positive with covid (ie whilst actually outside in the peloton), it would make the logistics a bit of a nightmare for the teams.

You wouldn’t want them mixing in your team hotel, on the team bus etc etc


 
Posted : 15/05/2023 5:20 pm
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Yeesh, are people really considering riding out a grand tour with COVID? Has the risk of complications/long COVID been debunked?


 
Posted : 15/05/2023 6:08 pm
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Cima Coppi cancelled. Looks like too much snow (not had chance to read the linked article yet)

https://twitter.com/inrng/status/1658173917893124110?s=46&t=yRQNMEdCGRiV6tO7y1r0Mw

Edit: yep. Too much snow, won't be clear


 
Posted : 15/05/2023 9:01 pm
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https://inrng.com/2023/05/giro-stage-10-preview-viareggio/

Today's stage preview.
Hoping Cav can pull this one out the bag, he's had a rotten run of luck so far. ☹️

I see masks are now mandatory for everyone as well.


 
Posted : 16/05/2023 7:06 am
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Not a great day for bike riding
As Orla said when she quote-tweeted this,

What's italian for "Ohh mannnnnn"

https://twitter.com/spannawalker/status/1658370700514668544


 
Posted : 16/05/2023 8:31 am
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Geraint starting in pink.
Not sure how long he can keep the jersey.


 
Posted : 16/05/2023 9:08 am
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According to The Breakaway in GCN, team buses are following the race route today rather than heading straight from start to finish, in case the weather means the race needs to be curtailed or neutralised.


 
Posted : 16/05/2023 11:15 am
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