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Fellow music lovers, what are the things that really grind your gears whilst spectating at a gig?

I can certainly handle a bit of exuberant jumping around when the music demands it, I love a bit of a sing along - heck, if you want to take a photo, go right ahead - BUT DON'T BLOODY HOLD YOUR 6" SCREENED SMART PHONE UP IN THE AIR FOR FOUR MINUTES AT A TIME!!!

And talking. We all like to share the moment, but why pay good money for a ticket to stand in a crowded space facing your mates/s and shout each other dull life affairs at each other for the entire time? WTF??

On that note, I abruptly told a couple of fella's to keep it down at a PSB gig at the Brooklyn Bowl a couple of weeks ago - poor fellas nearly jumped out of their skin, but to their credit they apologised immediately and went and bought us drinks (turns out one of them used to play in a band with the PSB drummer).

Last month at a really low key James gig, a women that clearly couldn't handle the booze got really aggressive with my other half during a front row virtual serenade with Tim Booth, it was the ultimate moment killer.
In the end she also got aggressive with another chap behind us and eventually got taken out by security. After completely spoiling the gig for dozens of people for at least 20mins.

Festivals. People throwing beakers full of piss at the crowd. I mean c'mon..
Music brings out the best in most, but seemingly the worst in so many others.

So what else tick's you off?
Will we ever see a time again where hundreds of brightly lit smart phone screens aren't filling the theater?
Am I a music Nazi?


 
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Are you a Nazi? no, people are ****s*
see People Are ****s, by the lovely, Lovely Eggs


 
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When someone doesn't dress appropriately at the ballet. Shootings too good for them.


 
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Talking doesn't annoy me. Usually the band drowns that out.
People with no spatial awareness get on my nerves however, and also the idiots pushing through the crowd to either a) get nearer the front, or b) get their drinks back to their chums near the front.

Still - it beats sitting. Can't see the point of that.


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 11:19 am
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Not long ago I was at a jazz (mmm, nice) gig at Sage 2. Bloke across the aisle insisted on banging his foot on the floor in the mistaken belief that (a) this added to the atmosphere (b) he was in time with the music (he wasn’t, not even close). Eventually I cracked, leant across the aisle and expressed the view that there already seemed to be a perfectly good rhythm section on the stage. Cue congratulations from all around me. End of the gig he decides he wants to have a fight (this is the Sage 2 remember). My mate is rather larger than me and intervenes. Then the woman next to me tells the bloke that I had her support, at which point he decides he wants to fight her too. So then her husband wades in metaphorically speaking, and, yes you’ve guessed it, the bloke decides he wants to take on him as well. We left before seeing if anyone actually ended up having a fight.


 
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Funny we were talking about this yesterday, drunk idiots who want a fight more that want to watch the band.


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 11:27 am
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I abruptly told a couple of fella's to keep it down at a PSB gig

You should have said "OK keep the chatter down in this room!"


 
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People with no spatial awareness get on my nerves however, and also the idiots pushing through the crowd to either a) get nearer the front, or b) get their drinks back to their chums near the front.

Yeah that! Especially when you've taken ages to create a little bit of dancing room and some selfish idiot jumps straight into it, so your face is about half a millimetre from the back of his / her head! 😡

I also have had an issue with people who come and ram out the dance tent after the open air stages have finished for the night, who have no interest in the music and just want somewhere warm to stand and talk to their mates. This is usually as the headline acts are starting and you basically can't move a muscle, let alone dance.


 
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.....in time with the music (he wasn’t, not even close)

It was a Jazz gig though, so nobody noticed 🙂


 
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I was a PSB gig a few weeks ago and this man an woman could be heard talking throughout (except at the loud bits obvs) she was then outside at the end proclaiming what a great gig it was.

I went to see James at the Hydro in Glasgow last year and Tim Booth tried to introduce a song about a close friend who had died of cancer but the crowd wouldn't quiet down despite quite loud booing which was directed initially at those who wouldn't shut up. This included a group of about 6 or 8 guys near us, they then without realising who the booing was aimed at, joined in! then started shouting "play a song then". It totally put me off going to such a large venue again.

I can only think that the saturation of and near instant availability of music from so many sources has dulled the appetite of people, yet somehow they can't let go of the need to go and see live acts, despite not paying them any attention at all when they are actually there.

<1stworldproblem> On holiday recently and I was enjoying the use of the hotel sauna when in come a group of 3 couples (early 30's) "wouldn't it be great if we brought a speaker down here for some music?" one of them suggests, to much agreement; now I don't have a real issue with that but it was more this idea that they couldn't just sit in silence, that somehow they found it uncomfortable, that annoyed/saddened me. </1stworldproblem>


 
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We left before seeing if anyone actually ended up having a fight.

Ah man! I'd loved to have been present at a Jazz fight! It should've been all freestyle as the band played along.

You should have said "OK keep the chatter down in this room!"

Yeah I know, I totally lost my cool. True to form there was even a public service movie played before the gig to demonstrate how despicable using your phone is during a gig - and that phone users and loud talkers all eventually end up dying alone, friendless.

Talking doesn't annoy me. Usually the band drowns that out.

Depends how close to the sound system you are!, what with not being willing to push to the front and all.
Seriously, Arcade Fire at Hyde Park 2014, I could barely hear the music for a group of girls that had absolutely no interest in doing anything but screech at each other about other girls. I don't think they even face the stage once.
That time I made some kind of witty comment to them between songs which had all the surrounding crowd laughing, but for the life of me I can't remember what it was.
I'm so cool.
Actually, it turned out for the best as on this occasion we were forced to make our way to front and center, where we joyously danced with strangers as the confetti fell from the summer sky. What a gig.

Honestly, why pay to talk about your day over loud music?? ENJOY THE MUSIC!
Cinema chatters/phone users will be first against the wall though.


 
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PSB gig at the Brooklyn Bowl

I didn't know the Pet Shop Boys had a drummer 😀


 
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What annoys me -

Girls sitting on their boyfriends shoulders. Back in the day they would have been bombarded with cans and bottles, but seem to get away with it lightly these days.

People who film most of the gig on their phones rather than watch it live. I want a clear view of the stage not a small screen in my line of site.


 
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lol @ muzzle.

East End too.

Just thought of something, was at a gig in Krakow a few years ago, was a local Polish hard rock/punk type band (Dead Snow Monster), which was high energy on stage - but the entire crowd stood virtually motionless and silent through the entire set! Was so weird!

So the few of us Brits that were there were jumping around like goons at the front, the band (and crowd) genuinely didn't know what to make of us at first but by the end they had us on stage 'signing' along and handing over the mike. Was hilarious.
I even ended up helping to organise a gig for them in the UK.


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 11:42 am
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I politely asked someone at a recent gig, if he didn't remove his iphone screen from in front of my face, if he had any preference as to which orifice he'd like me ram it in, sideways?


 
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The only time I've been properly annoyed at a gig was having just got back from the bar with some drinks & handing them out, a bloke ploughs into me while trying to push past with his mates & whacks my pint out of my hand.
Looks at me, looks at the empty 'glass' rolling around on the floor, looks back at me & then quickly scarpers.....not a word of apology, no offer of a fresh pint....nothing. I should have grabbed him as he ploughed his way through the crowd really, and asked him to buy me a fresh one......

Other people talking - not really an issue. I don't think I've been to a quiet enough gig for this to be a problem while the band are playing.


 
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I think I may have been to too many loud gigs over the years.
I now have to concentrate to hear the best bits!

Tinnitus sucks.


 
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Other people talking - not really an issue. I don't think I've been to a quiet enough gig for this to be a problem while the band are playing.

Nils Frahm at Roundhouse Camden is a perfect example of a gig where you needed to listen and anyone talking would drown out the music. He started off with a beautiful subtle piece of piano tinkling at very low volume. An absolute joy to listen to but only if everyone else was silent.


 
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And talking. We all like to share the moment, but why pay good money for a ticket to stand in a crowded space facing your mates/s and shout each other dull life affairs at each other for the entire time? WTF??

Because it's a social event?

There's always that one guy (who I now realize is off STW) who stands just ahead of the sound desk, facing the stage, hands in pockets, talking to no one, because that's where the music is best and moans that everyone else way of experiencing gigs is wrong.


 
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From a musicians perspective -

People who stand and stare at you for ages are very off-putting. Either dance, or watch, but don't glare at me with sun-like intensity for the whole gig!

People who lean over onto the stage and try and play with or fiddle with your instrument. This also includes festival crowds who have brought their own percussion - you'd better be bloody good!

Stage invaders - you're the crowd, we're the entertainment. Unless we invite you of course, then fill yer boots.

Stealing my pint from the front of the stage. You will get kicked.

Unless it's a wedding or we're a cover band, then please don't ask for other people's songs. We almost certainly won't know them.

Don't get arsey when we say no to the above request.

If you're going to buy us a round of tequila or sambuca shots. please wait until after the gig. Our drummer really can't keep time when pissed 😉


 
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Nearly given up on quiet gigs because of talking.

Used to be just the bored girlfriends at the back, now it seems to be everyone.

On the upside, at least a phone won't set your hair on fire.
🙂


 
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I find standing in front of the shortest wee man in the venue is a sure-fire winner.


 
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Because it's a social event?

TINAS, I think we are getting our levels of talking mixed up. Im referring to someone/people that have seemingly no interest in the event taking place, talking SO LOUD, about daily life/other people/drivel, that simply ignoring them becomes impossible. Of course I don't expect silence from the crowd, but I do expect people that have paid quite a significant figure to enjoy a performance to stop for a moment and enjoy the performance.
Just as I would expect the same at Opera/cinema/ballet/most social events?
Pubs/parks are for chatting shit. Please, DO NOT STAND NEAR ME AT A GIG

stands just ahead of the sound desk, facing the stage, hands in pockets, talking to no one, because that's where the music is best

As it happens I did just that half way through a GSY!BE gig last year that I was struggling to get in to, and suddenly it all made sense. The sound/s came together and the whirr of the projectors behind me added to a stunning aural assault.
Was so good to be at a gig where everybody in attendance was there to readily experience a musical... experience.


 
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Girls sitting on their boyfriends shoulders.

Protective boyfriends. Girl is down front at rock gig, boyfriend stands behind her and tries to erect a forcefield. A thousand people doing their nuts but if you so much as bounce in her direction it's an act of war. The really odd thing is the number of times the girl is obviously no keener on it than anyone else.

The constant crowdsurfer. I like a bit of crowdsurfing, I'll do it myself if it feels right, in the right crowd, and I do like carrying people over- a good lift is a beautiful thing. But for whatever reason, the constant crowdsurfer also has no idea what the right crowd is or how to do it, he'll do it in the last 10 seconds of a song, he'll flop about like a dead fish and be harder to keep up, he'll try and climb up people without asking for a lift or get lifted right behind a gaggle of kids and immedately collapse them, usually he'll have boots on which he'll not kick with, but will just sort of aimlessly bump off everyone's heads like a drowned man washing ashore... Constant Crowdsurfer is some sort of retard basically.

And for that matter, the guy who likes the idea of a moshpit, but is too scared to go in one so instead just tries to start one of his own, usually far from the action and while surrounded by people who want none of it. It's one of life's great pleasures to grab one of these and throw them into a real pit.

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There's always that one guy (who I now realize is off STW) who stands just ahead of the sound desk, facing the stage, hands in pockets, talking to no one, because that's where the music is best and moans that everyone else way of experiencing gigs is wrong.

And that's great, because he's enjoying himself and doing no harm. Talking ****s spoil it for other people.


 
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I think I may have been to too many loud gigs over the years.
I now have to concentrate to hear the best bits!

Tinnitus sucks.

Eh????

Folk filming it on their pissy mobiles. Only avoidable by getting right to the front.


 
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Our drummer really can't keep time when pissed

Mate of mine is a bassist. He got so depressed with the rest of the band ribbing him about his timing that he threw himself behind a train.


 
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Mate of mine is a bassist. He got so depressed with the rest of the band ribbing him about his timing that he threw himself behind a train.

I'm using that at practice tonight 😆


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 12:25 pm
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Eh????

Earplugs now for me at loud gigs im afraid. Couldn't hear anything but whistling for several days after a Steel Panther gig a couple years ago.

I know, I deserved the punishment.


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 12:28 pm
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... what are the things that really grind your gears whilst spectating at a gig?

Just the one thing really; people.


 
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At festivals, dont go near the side of the crowd closest to where the boom camera swings over the crowd. That be the zone of the bellend.


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 12:38 pm
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Who are PSB? Or is that actually their name? Is it like Peter Maxwell Davies but with a different name?


 
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Who are PSB? Or is that actually their name? Is it like Peter Maxwell Davies but with a different name?

My guess would be Public Service Broadcasting. (?)


 
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Pet Shop Boys, I'd hazard.


 
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Or them. ^^


 
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Seriously, Arcade Fire at Hyde Park 2014, I could barely hear the music for a group of girls that had absolutely no interest in doing anything but screech at each other about other girls. I don't think they even face the stage once.
Strangely I was at that same gig and had the same problem, but with a mixed group whose sole interest appeared to be discussing moving house!! I was forced to move further forward as well and also had a fantastic time. 🙂 I honestly can't understand why anyone would spend £50+ on a ticket just to treat the event like being down the local pub.

spchantler - I've never come across anyone other than me who likes the Lovely Eggs!!


 
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"Gig etiquette"? From my recent experiences there is no such thing as this any more. No one cares about anyone's enjoyment apart from their own. Self-interested pricks.

I blame Thatcher. 🙁


 
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lucky - I think the problem that day was heavily discounted tickets combined with hot summer evening. Venue wasn't sold out and tickets were reportedly being sold for £5 on final day - queue annoying non-interested crowd.


 
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ah man, keep the Tories outta my thread please. I was with you till that point.

I tend to agree, society in general seems to have an overblown sense of self-absorbedness now. Just ask TINAS 🙂

As it goes, I genuinely enjoy gigs far better when the crowd are having as good a time as me - and I try to do my bit to ensure that happens for them.
If that means keeping quiet, then cool, or if it means jumping around hugging strangers, cool.

Oh yeah, PSB = Public Service Broadcasting. In my case at least.

Can someone embed this for me?:

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or Everest, or Spitfire, or London can take it.


 
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Blocking other folks' view by filming with a smartphone. When I last saw the Temperance Movement, the woman in front of me did that persistently until (thankfully) her battery ran out.

Disappearing to the bar for half an hour and expecting to push through and reclaim your position near the front.

Drunks fighting. Two large and very drunk lads spent most of a Volbeat gig headbutting each other.

A minor annoyance of mine is that I always seem to stand near women with enormous shoulder bags, that I get constantly nudged with as they dance. What do they put in these enormous bags?


 
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Tall fat bastards who push to the front so they can block the view of as many people as possible. If you're tall, stand at the sides so the normal folks can see!
(Except for Big Jeff, obviously)


 
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Fortunate enough to get to see Kate Bush in 2014. A big announcement at the beginning about not using phones during the performance. Not a phone in sight during and such a delight not be distracted by the bright glowing screens.

Mind you, seems like everyone there was a huge fan. I do wonder if people go to gigs just because their mates are going. They may have never heard of the band?

TM


 
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I tend to agree, society in general seems to have an overblown sense of self-absorbedness now. Just ask TINAS

I'm far less miserable in real life, honest.

The reason I remember 'that' guy is a misspent youth sound and light engineering. He was always the one who tried to make conversation, and was always, without fail, the most boring person there*. You've paid to be here, I'm paid to be here, go have some fun at the front and pull an indie chick, it's where we'd rather be!

*no, no I don't think they were better before they were famous, no I haven't heard their limited release B-side cover of Adiemus, yes, if i wanted to hear your opinion I'd read it myself in NME rather than get it second hand from you.


 
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haha, fair enough.

Fortunate enough to get to see Kate Bush in 2014

Lucky sod. That gig and Zep in 2007 will probably always be the 2 that got away..
Tell me you also got to the Zep gig and I shall have to stop being your friend.


 
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I forgot to add: people wearing huge silly hats to block the view.


 
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FLAGS AT FESTIVALS! ARRGHHH!


 
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Last gig I went to was Motorhead about 7 years ago, before Lemmy got old.
People talking over the band was not an issue.


 
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The reason I remember 'that' guy is a misspent youth sound and light engineering.

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slimjim - That makes a lot more sense now, I'd been slightly puzzled by the gig since it happened!!
I would've given anything to be at the Led Zep reunion as well. As soon as it was announced as a raffle system I knew that I had no chance though. I think raffle tickets are put in the bin when I buy them rather than in the hat.


 
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The answer to the last one is always yes, vast amounts, however asking to 'borrow' another mans gaffer tape is like asking to 'borrow' his girlfriend, get yer own!

That and where's the official uniform of fleece and shorts? Clearly not a pro :-p


 
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Blocking other folks' view by filming with a smartphone.

On more than one occasion now I've seen people doing this with full-sized iPads. Get in the sea.


 
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Through my gig going life (35 years) 've got further and further back from the front.

This has been helped by better sound and 'light/screen' shows

I think bands used to play mostly live. I dread to think how much trickery and tracks are used these days

It used to be entertainment by personality - for those 'rockstars who actually had one.

That's what I cant stand the most.

When I'm in the band and people are annoying me I play a semi tone flat until they stop, the number of times that's had zero effect is astonishing 🙂


 
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Interesting one from Moses about tall people and to an extent I see his / her point.

However, just because I'm tall doesn't mean I always want to stand right at the back or sides. Maybe on the odd occasion I go out I want to stand near the band and get a bit of noise and action?

Maybe the shorties could bring a box to stand on?


 
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Blocking other folks' view by filming with a smartphone. When I last saw the Temperance Movement, the woman in front of me did that persistently until (thankfully) her battery ran out.

I saw a really odd thing at a biffy gig a while back... They had live screens, and a big promontary stage thing so they could get out into teh crowd. At one point, Simon Neil (singer/guitarist/tramp/inexplicable sex symbol) comes out on the sticky out stage thing and ended up about 3 metres away from where I was standing... and the girl beside me was filming him on the big screen, on her phone, watching the gig on a screen on a screen when he was barely more than an arms length away. So weird.

But if filming on a phone is bad, what do you call it when the ipads come out?


 
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Fortunate enough to get to see Kate Bush in 2014
Lucky sod. That gig and Zep in 2007 will probably always be the 2 that got away..
Tell me you also got to the Zep gig and I shall have to stop being your friend.

Didn't see Led Zep. I did see Fat and Frantic play a church hall in Hastings though. (who remembers them?)

Re: KB, yes, consider myself very lucky. It was an extraordinary experience. Standing ovations from arrival on stage to the end. We were all stunned at the interval really. Remains the finest musical show I have seen. The lack of phones was a very unusual occurrence.

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I expect with the average age of the Kate Bush audience, smart phones are few and far between 😉


 
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Interesting one from Moses about tall people and to an extent I see his / her point.

However, just because I'm tall doesn't mean I always want to stand right at the back or sides. Maybe on the odd occasion I go out I want to stand near the band and get a bit of noise and action?

Maybe the shorties could bring a box to stand on?

I'm tall. I arrive early and pick a spot to stand early on. That way other people won't be surprised by a 6'4" obstruction appearing once they've found their spot to stand. People who arrive late then decide it's their right to barge to the front of the crowd and invent a space to stand when it was already crowded annoy me a bit.


 
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I've given up going to gigs with allocated seating so it's -20db musicians' plugs in the ears and move around to where there's space to dance and the people are neither statues or overly aggressive. I'm happy to sing along, clap and join in as the front man requests - because good front men/women get the audience joining in.

Good experiences generally though some of the later punk gigs were dire. The Damned was dreadful. The playing was dreadful, the singing was dreadful, the audience rained the band in gob and behaved dreadfully - I suppose that was the idea... .


 
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And talking. We all like to share the moment, but why pay good money for a ticket to stand in a crowded space facing your mates/s and shout each other dull life affairs at each other for the entire time? WTF??
Because it's a social event?

But it's not a social event for them, because they're so immersed in their own selfish little world, oblivious to just how much they're pissing off everyone else around them. I was at a John Martyn gig in Bath once, one where he wasn't too pissed to perform, and there was a little group of four who stood in a square facing each other talking for the entire gig.
On my way out, I asked them if they'd enjoyed it, to which they said yes, it was great! Really, I said; that's amazing, considering you've talked all the way through and ignored completely the person on stage: why didn't you just stay at home with a stack of his albums and some booze, then you wouldn't have pissed off everyone in earshot!
They just stood with their mouths open as I walked off. I felt better for venting, though.


 
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Fortunate enough to get to see Kate Bush in 2014. A big announcement at the beginning about not using phones during the performance. Not a phone in sight during and such a delight not be distracted by the bright glowing screens.

Mind you, seems like everyone there was a huge fan. I do wonder if people go to gigs just because their mates are going. They may have never heard of the band?

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I did wait until the encore bit before sneaking my phone out at waist height and grabbing several photos, most a bit blurry. Helped having front row centre seats!
I also saw Zeppelin, but that was in 1972, at Earl's Court, on the Physical Graffiti Tour. 😀


 
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People who stand at the barrier and don't like getting barged and squashed.

People who stand around a mosh pit and like to do all the pushing back in but don't like getting pushed themselves.

People who stand around a mosh pit and don't like their toes getting stood on.

People who stand around a mosh pit drinking a beer and don't expect to get their pint spilled.

Over aggressive mosh pitters, who are there to shove and ignore the music.

Bring on Saturday!!!


 
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People who stand at the barrier and don't like getting barged and squashed.

People who stand around a mosh pit and like to do all the pushing back in but don't like getting pushed themselves.

People who stand around a mosh pit and don't like their toes getting stood on.

People who stand around a mosh pit drinking a beer and don't expect to get their pint spilled.

Over aggressive mosh pitters, who are there to shove and ignore the music.

What about those at the front who are there when a mosh pit spontaneously breaks out when nobody is expecting it, like at a Half Man Half Biscuit gig at Bath Komedia?


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 11:31 pm
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What about those at the front who are there when a mosh pit spontaneously breaks out when nobody is expecting it, like at a Half Man Half Biscuit gig at Bath Komedia?

join in or move?

But i do enjoy a good old mosh about, so I am somewhat biased in my views.


 
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People who stand around a mosh pit and like to do all the pushing back in but don't like getting pushed themselves.

Why? They're kind of an essential part of a pit, otherwise you're just constantly steaming into innocent bystanders and having it close up and that. Always strikes me as weird when people try and throw or drag the wall into the churn.


 
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Over aggressive mosh pitters, who are there to shove and ignore the music.

This happened at the Afghan Whigs gig last year at Manchester Cathedral. A guy was dancing aggressively in between songs, Greg Dulli spotted this going on and said " buddy, I appreciate your enthusiasm - I really do, but if you start a fight - I'm going to jump down there and ****ing end it. Be cool". sometimes a quiet word from the right person does the trick! 🙂


 
Posted : 16/03/2016 12:04 am
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Highlights include:

Arcade Fire Nottingham , man throwing a shoe at the band.

Beautiful South Sherwood Pines, fight starting at front but band wading in.

Various James concerts: lots of shirtless idiots generally pushing you about. And yes the aforementioned James cancer reference happened at Leeds too.

I don't think it is about the music any more - it's the raucous drunk types that want to party with no respect.

Hate it, puts me off completely.

Go to less trendy bands like OMD and you don't get this 🙂


 
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What about those at the front who are there when a mosh pit spontaneously breaks out when nobody is expecting it, like at a Half Man Half Biscuit gig at Bath Komedia?

As a veteran of many HMHB gigs, I cannot believe that the polite, embarrassed, middle aged frugging at the front could ever be described as a 'Mosh Pit'.
Although I did once get a nasty friction burn from a pair of oven gloves.
Should have used Lenor.

It's more like an outbreak of muttering in the pension queue.

Mosh Pit Etiquette:
It's not a 'mosh pit'. We're British. It's 'down the front'.
No spitting, scratching, gouging, fondling, groping, kissing or biting.
If someone falls over, pick them up.
Take all of your jagged, sharp edged jewellery off first.
Non players off the green.


 
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I don't think it is about the music any more - it's the raucous drunk types that want to party with no respect.

Hate it, puts me off completely.

Yup, absolutely spot on.

It's one of the reasons why I rarely go to gigs these days..... I prefer to set aside a Friday evening every once in a while, get a few beers in, then spend it listening to/watching a band on my home entertainment system (it helps if you've got an expensive one).

You'd be hard pressed to be able to distinguish it from a real gig, especially if it's a band like Radiohead et al.

I think this is probably the way it's all going to go anyway. Perhaps a "pay per view" service for gigs?

It'll be a bit like the Boiler Room/Mixmag setups I imagine. Obviously you'll get a few mugs paying forty quid a pop to actually go to the venue (just so they can say they've "seen them live"); but us sensible one's will be able to "stream" it to the comfort of our living rooms.


 
Posted : 16/03/2016 8:17 am
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on that note, Radiohead at The Roundhouse goes on pre-sale this Friday...

CountZero - did we just become best friends?!


 
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Arcade Fire Nottingham , man throwing a shoe at the band.

Hah. I remember snow patrol at t in the park- no, steady, I'm not really a fan but they were great that night. Someone chucks a shoe at the singer. He picks it up and goes "I'm just wondering how quickly it becomes apparent to you that you've ****ed up. Is it when the shoe hits the stage? Or does it kick in immediately after it leaves your hand? That realisation that you need to walk around the rest of the festival with one shoe. Or, maybe you're only realising it now? Hey- shoe for sale, £1000"

Then someone threw another "What a waste, it's not even a pair! Anyone got a size 9 black Vans, right?"


 
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From a musicians perspective -
Stage invaders - you're the crowd, we're the entertainment.

Sign me up for ticket now 🙄

You need to get yourself a gig with the Aberdeen crusty punks! We always loved playing for them you never quite knew what was going to happen. We've had human pyramids being formed on stage, guitarists being carried off. And general tomfoolery. Its part of the fun.


 
Posted : 16/03/2016 9:28 am
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I got passed overhead onto the stage at a Ramones gig in Manchester a few years ago.

Stood up and prepared to dive back into the crowd.
I was a big lad back then and the gap between the stage, barrier and audience seemed a bit ambitious from up there.
The prospect of being landed on by a fat lad had thinned the crowd right at the front out a bit too.

No backing out, so I prepared by taking a run up, only to be rugby tackled by security before I'd taken flight.

Probably for the best.
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Sign me up for ticket now 🙄
You need to get yourself a gig with the Aberdeen crusty punks! We always loved playing for them you never quite knew what was going to happen. We've had human pyramids being formed on stage, guitarists being carried off. And general tomfoolery. Its part of the fun.

You didn't quote the second part of my sentence 😉
I've actually got no issue with people coming and dancing on stage. It's when they try and mess with the instruments or the amps, or grab a mic. If as a band you aren't the most fun thing on stage and your music isn't keeping them dancing, then you have a problem. If people feel the need to try and be entertaining instead of enjoying the show then your not doing your job.

We've played to some pretty boisterous crowds - even though we aren't a punk band we've been put on plenty of bills with punk/ska outfits. Never had any problems, they're normally too busy pogoing around.

It's drunk tossers who think they're the life and soul who are the problem.
Though the scouse junky who tried to stage invade and then fell asleep in front of the drum kit sticks in my memory. We woke him up at the end of the gig and tried to sort him a taxi home, but he just swayed off into the night.


 
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You'd be hard pressed to be able to distinguish it from a real gig, especially if it's a band like Radiohead et al.

First time I saw Radiohead live was at Glastonbury in 1997. Thom Yorke spent a lot of time talking to the crowd (and moaning about the brightness of the stage lights)and they were playing No Surprises just as the Festival fireworks started.

It made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Don't think I would have got the same emotion listening to a CD indoors.

A bit like watching live sport instead of televised, it's all about the atmosphere.....

Man 😉


 
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I've been to a few Zero7 and Bonobo gigs where people having been gently swaying a bit too much.


 
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I thought this was a load of moany old sods venting until last night... I don't go to 'gigs' very often and my taste is ripe for taking the piss. But last night, the ferking ****ers would not shut up. Between the screamers and whoopers behind and the yakking morons in front, I don't think I heard too much of Post Modern Jukebox.

There, any residual credibility gone... 🙂


 
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Radiohead at The Roundhouse goes on pre-sale this Friday...

I really want to go to this but at £65 it's a bit steep. I could only go to the Thursday night show too as I'm off to Shindig Weekender on the Friday which was £100 for two days of music. Going to the Roundhouse would make it a very expensive few days.


 
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I don't think I heard too much of Post Modern Jukebox.

I was tempted to go to the Glasgow show but I had a feeling the crowd'd be absolutely full of arsepieces tbh. Not me obviously, I'm sound. Everyone else though. Bieber covers + youtube....


 
Posted : 16/03/2016 4:59 pm
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speaking of poor crowds, I was at a NIN set at a festival (Frequency) in Austria back in 08 and the crowd were really subdued in general.

It was one of those sun coming down sets that has a real electric buzz in the air, but Trent was so pissed off with the crowd not reacting to the performance that he stopped a couple times to ask what the hell was going on. He second guessed that NIN were booked between two german acts and he was right - so proceeded to continue the set super angry syle, throwing things, smashing stuff - It was awesome!! Me and my pals were right in the middle going nuts.
So I suppose a bad crowd can occasionally have its advantages.

Beer, pretzels, Nine Inch Nails, Interpol, Juliette and the Licks. Happy days.


 
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I went to Sonisphere basically because it was to be the last NIN gig in Europe. Trent threw his toys out of the pram at playing a metal festival, exact words "* Metallica's crowd", and they did a set full of dreary shoegazing ****, then left the stage early. Maybe the worst bit of gig etiquette I've ever seen. Oh and then obviously they did some more tours anyway. ****.

(later in the day, I climbed in the window of a limo on the offchance it'd be him, but it turned out to be Kirk Hammett and Lars Ulrich. I apologised for intruding and explained that I was hoping to find Trent Reznor and call him a *... they were very understanding, like having random scottish people climb in a moving car's window on a mission to insult NIN is just something that happens all the time if you're in Metallica.

OTOH they were absolutely godly at T in the Park a few weeks before so in my head, that last show was basically some Reznor art college side project.


 
Posted : 16/03/2016 5:58 pm
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