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Air France may bar obese passengers from flights
Makes sense I suppose.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8471451.stm
About time.
I don't see what the issue is- you need two seats, you pay for them. Pretty sure thats happened to a few people who've broken their legs abroad (albeit via their insurance)
fat chance getting 2-seat bifters off a plane in 90 seconds. IME it takes them this long just to stand up to let you past for a visit to the dunny
I still think the airlines should base the fare on the total weight of passenger/luggage.
Good, if I got anyone too fat in the seat next to me I'd point blank refuse to lift the arm rest betweens seats, if they don't fit they should pay twice. I've heard stories of the cabin crew making passengers lift the armrest between seats so the fat people can fit. Ironically you're supposed to lower the arm rest for landing and take off......
[i]I still think the airlines should base the fare on the total weight of passenger/luggage[/i]
yep me too. My flights would be half the price of most peoples.
Kev
They pay for 25% of the 2nd seat dont they? Also state you're guaranteed the seat next to you - pretty sure I heard of some airline charging a "corpulent" person for 2 seats in completely seperate parts of the plane! cheeky.
same issue on buses and trains....................
Polite note to bus/train/plane designers. Stop looking at films of Butlins in the 60s to determine average UK person size please.
It's not just about seat size either is it. On planes fuel is a significant cost of the overall flight, and it's pretty weight dependant, I don't want to subsidise some fatty. Should make it a green issue, then it'll trump the human rights element.......
On planes fuel is a significant cost of the overall flight, and it's pretty weight dependant, I don't want to subsidise some fatty. Should make it a green issue, then it'll trump the human rights element.......
So is it just fat people who you think should pay more, or people who are just heavier than you? what height / weight ratio would you set the bar at?
If you want to make it a green issue, why not get rid of crappy (heavy) in flight magazine and duty free drinks etc. All those litre bottles of spirits must weigh a ton.
will they get 2 mealsand 2 drink rations as well?
will they get 2 mealsand 2 drink rations as well?
Plus twice the baggage allowance I assume. Only fair if they're paying for 2 seats.
25% discount on the second seat...
I wonder whether after checking your handluggage fits into the overhead compartments you then have to sit into a seat to prove your behind doesn't overlap...
Just shoot anyone plus 20 stone, the trebuchet was to kind. 😈
How fat do you have to be? I'm all for it but at 6'4" and the best part of 16 stone i feel i may be affected!
[Tannoy]Ton to the forum please[/Tannoy]
Should have a hoop at checkin, say 2 ft in diameter. If you can get through it then jobsagoodun otherwise ££££££ 🙂
Awesome. Let's have another wide-ranging discussion of how awful large people are. Could someone post some BMI charts? We've already had a suggestion that fatties be shot out of a trebuchet, so we'd better have an in-depth discussion of what counts as a fatty. Then someone can give us a sob story about how his enormous mate eats because he's unhappy and therefore shouldn't be in a zoo, or whatever the current proposal is, and with a little luck we'll have some off-forum emailed threats of Borat-style naked-hairy-man-arse based violence before the afternoon is out. It's gonna be GREAT. 🙄 😀
I flew from Namibia to South Africa once. In the next but one seat was a gentleman who was slightly too substantial for the seats. He had 2 whole seats, but only really needed 1.2 seats. I've never had so much arm-room, it was lovely. 🙂
Should have a hoop at checkin, say 2 ft in diameter. If you can get through it then jobsagoodun otherwise ££££££
Arrrghhhh...no more please! 😀
Mind you I am about the 16 stone mark,and I would just like to thank all you twiglets for contributing towards my air travel for the last 25 years...gerritrightupya!
Larger seats for everyone, and more legroom too.
This has only become an issue since the airlines started to squeeze the seats down and stick them closer together.
when it comes to flying its about time the hand to mouth reflex and a hand in wallet effect.
one seat for each bloated ass cheak, if the can't afford it then lay off the pies for a few weeks.
Seriously though, if the issue here is that large people might hold up the rest of the passengers in the event of an evacuation, perhaps they should be seated in the middle of the plane in the seats farthest from the exits.
By large I mean overweight, not someone who is a 6ft 4 rugby player type.
Fantastic, I mean, what a great idea. Demonise the fatties, stick them in their own pen at the back of the airplane. Maybe even in wheeled cages, a la Hannibal so that the pilot can have them moved shortly after take off to balance the plane.
These measures will really really help fat people to realise the errors of their ways and just bloody lose weight. Well...they will won't they?
FFS! 🙄
Do fatties fly BMI do we think?
stick them in their own pen at the back of the airplane.
Bad idea - there are exits at the back.
beamers:Bad idea - there are exits at the back.
Plus the food trolleys.
my god a whole forum of arseholes 😯
Why's that pitduck?
my god a whole forum of arseholes
Are you new? 😀
Actually I think you may be failing to recognise sarcasm from at least half the posters on this thread.
Actually I think you may be failing to recognise sarcasm from at least half the posters on this thread.
Either that or he is worried his holiday flights will cost him twice as much 😉
"stick them in their own pen at the back of the airplane.
Bad idea - there are exits at the back. "
What about crates? In the hold like animals?
They should start charging people more for children too. Can't stand crying children on planes.
Jamie - MemberPlus the food trolleys
propper LOL
I'm really skinny, do you think I could get a cheaper, narrower seat? Or fit 3 of us into 2 seats?
nickc, that was a surprisingly clever joke, good stuff 😉
On one of my many flights to the UK last year I ended up in economy sitting beside jabba the hutt. **** me, this poor dude was spilling over the top and bottom of the seat. It wasn't actually funny as I honestly coudl not actually sit in my seat without leaning all the way over to give the guy room. It was incredibly uncomfortable and quite stressful actually bearing in mind i had 12 hours of it. Once we took off i squeezed out (he honestly couldn't move so i had to climb over him) and collared a air hostess where i deliocately pointed out that having paid full whack for an economy ticket i expected a complete economy seat please ! She was very apologetic and 10 minutes later appeared and shunted me into premium economy (I am a very frequent flyer you know dahlings !). WHich was fine but i did feel sorry for anyone who has to put up with that. If you can;t fit into the width of a seat (and seat widths are published) then you shoudl be paying or be accomodated in 2. So there fat people. And I also subscribe to the 'total weight' theory - you and your bags get, say 110kg anything over you pay for.
Know someone who doesn't go abroad on holiday, reason? They're too fat to fly! 😯
This fred is hilariously funny! but come on guys, have you seen what ryanair have taken out of their flights? he'd get rid of an engine if he could. do you think he hasnt run the idea of charging by total weight by big shot solicitors??
in my view if weight is the cost issue with luggage, it should be with passengers but this no doubt wont get by the legal bods 😀
Let's be fair. A 2'1" diameter hoop at least.
Put less seating in 😕
Come on people think outside the seat. Convert some of the luggage cabin. Top tier skinnys and kit bottom tier the more rotund passenger and their bags. Keeps teh centre or gravity low for better cornering and if the undercarriage fails to deploy.............boing............boing....boing..boing.boing.....landed job done.
nickc - MemberDo fatties fly BMI do we think?
I doubt most fatties are even aware of it.
[b]FAT ****S![/b]
Never gets old.
Feel happier now...
😈
I love threads like this. The small, malnourished labrats who actually fit into Italian-made cycling clothing get all angry and clench their bony little fists. I can hear their squeaky little voices as they rise up (not very far) against the system that is so unfair where 'they subsidise fatties for travel'. Their high metabolisms must be burning the few calories they consume at such a high rate, driven by a desire for retribution.
Keep up the good work - your whining amuses me every time. 😀
The small, malnourished labrats who actually fit into Italian-made cycling clothing get all angry and clench their bony little fists....
🙂
I wouldn't mind if airlines charged proportionately - course it'd help if they itemised the whole thing too, since weight only uses up more fuel & has no effect on the amount of "service" provided to an individual or overheads involved in running the business. I doubt this would lead to the huge differences (thin) people envisage.
(on a "classic threads" tack, it'd be great if they offered discounts for sweating weight off at the check-in desk on a *ahem* treadmill or maybe provide a picolax dispenser)
The guy is Jamie's picture is standing next to something that suggests he "upgrade to wet platinum - guaranteed never sticky and silky smooth". Is knowing what that's about going to upset me? 😯
c'mon BD, try the link 😉
FFS, it's not about the right's of the fatties it's about the rights of the 'normal' people. You pay for a seat, it's not unreasonable to expect to sit in it. People have been left with long term crush injuries after enduring a flight with a lump on top of them (though Gods knows why they didn't complain). Even in a more normal situation physically touching some big fat lump for an entire flight is pretty unpleasant (and I'm not having a go at overweight people here, most people are fairly fragant after 12 hours on a plane).
The funniest thing i've seen on flight was 3 fatties all sat at the bulkhead as they couldn't or wouldn't fit into normal rows. All was fine until feeding time, everyone else flipped the seat back tables down, being on the bulkhead their tables were the ones that fold out from the seat arms. Unfortunatly they were too fat and the tables wouldn't unfold over their food babies. In the end the fligh crew had to find some trays so they could balance their food on their stomachs, twas very funny.
On one of my many flights to the UK last year I ended up in economy sitting beside jabba the hutt. **** me, this poor dude was spilling over the top and bottom of the seat. It wasn't actually funny as I honestly coudl not actually sit in my seat without leaning all the way over to give the guy room. It was incredibly uncomfortable and quite stressful actually bearing in mind i had 12 hours of it. Once we took off i squeezed out (he honestly couldn't move so i had to climb over him) and collared a air hostess where i deliocately pointed out that having paid full whack for an economy ticket i expected a complete economy seat please ! She was very apologetic and 10 minutes later appeared and shunted me into premium economy (I am a very frequent flyer you know dahlings !). WHich was fine but i did feel sorry for anyone who has to put up with that. If you can;t fit into the width of a seat (and seat widths are published) then you shoudl be paying or be accomodated in 2. So there fat people. And I also subscribe to the 'total weight' theory - you and your bags get, say 110kg anything over you pay for.
While flying back fron NZ last year I got stuck next to this skinny liitle streak of piss.Dodgy little bugger kept stroking my leg,and rubbing up against me like my granny's pomeranian. I thought that caper was still against the law in NZ, since the rest of the place is stuck in the 1960's, but it would appear not.Anyway while going to q for a few bags of crisps to keep the old hunger pangs off,I asked the stewardess if there was anything she could do to move the frisky little tyke.She said she would see what she could do, soon he went to the toilet and didn't come back.I assume the skinny wee git was sucked down with the rest of the crap, mind he was so thin he would rise,not fall.
you and your bags get, say 110kg anything over you pay for.
So if you're a normal person and use less than that it is still very unfair.
[i]I still think the airlines should base the fare on the total weight of passenger/luggage.[/i]
Seems a sensible idea to me.
I still think the airlines should base the fare on the total weight of passenger/luggage.[i]
below avarage height are we? feel a bit hard done by in the gene pool?
bless your little cotton socks!
jamesca, (below avarage height are we? feel a bit hard done by in the gene pool?) 😆
duckman - nice, like it. You smelt tho ...
gusamc - Member
same issue on buses and trains....................Polite note to bus/train/plane designers. Stop looking at films of Butlins in the 60s to determine average UK person size please.
Trucks are rated on their gross weight, buses on their passenger capacity.
I can't remember the exact figures, but it's something like, up to 1980 the average weight of a passenger was reckoned at 66kg, after 1980 it was 75kg.
I don't think the seats got any bigger though.
While we're fatty bashing, can someone do something about their smell too?
I love fatties, where else can you be incredibly cruel and discriminating without being labelled a racist or sexist?
Just seen this:
[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8539366.stm ]Couple lose 210lbs after 'humiliation' on flight[/url]
Nowt worse than a sweaty biffa parked next to you for hours on a flight - combined weight for me too , except it would be fattest and human rights tossbags would step in as usual
I'm all in favour of a compbined passenger/luggage limit. Me and race bike together are under 11st.
However, there of course many large people who are not fat. Rugby players, boxers, etc. Any thoughts?
Whilst broadly in agreement with fat people paying a premium etc, I have concerns about the hoop idea. I should hate to see slim women with big breasts barred from flying. That has the potential to make flying a much less interesting experience.
We should be agitating for seats and legroom to fit the fatties comfortably. It's good for them, and even better for the rest of us who would have some spare room to luxuriate in on a flight.
If we agitate against the fatties, we're playing the airlines game - they want public pressure as an excuse to squeeze us even tighter.





