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This thread, and the story itself just get better and better. Pretty much impossible to distinguish between satire and reality.
I’m imagining Andrew Neill doing a ‘from my third home in Provence’ intro much like that Desmond codger used to do on the radio from Perthshire.
And Pat Benatar for half time entertainment. Mint!
It may just be the 5D chess move required to reset our culture back to before the wokies.
Is he going to pull people's arms out of their sockets if he loses?
Latest: GB News pulls Guto Harri off air after ‘taking the knee’
Could be worse for him I suppose. Did they televise that or was it done off-camera?
Was not, was not was, was pat benatar
Did she walk the dinosaur?
As well as Alistair Stewart going, so the off air executives are leaving as well Gill Penlington, a producer at CNN and Sky News, went last week and just now, another John McAndrew the channel's director of programming has gone today
Abandoning a rats ship sinking like...re-arrange into a well known phrase or saying...
zippykona
Full Member
Alistair Stewart is on there?
well not any more
be interesting to see if others start leaving now
if their viewership remains this low, how long before the backers pull the plug?
re the exces leaving
its the moderate ones going
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/1416042384689881090
I suspect that the reaction will be to go even more right wing & Foxnewsy
Now there’s a new ‘Not GB News’ channel sprung up! 🤣
Either
1. some random griping about having being ‘let down’, or
2. satire of someone griping having being ‘let down’ or
3. Andrew Neil, a few bottles of de porto deep behind enemy territory, trying to figure how to work this youtube thingumajig and see if he can’t right some wrongs?
Think I’m experiencing pronounced meta-cringe-Inception-by-proxy at this point. That Guto bloke gives me the cringe too.
Going to stick with the 1980s theme and maybe a Chinglish later for full-fat Friday. It’ll be OK. Pat said that my dreams will All Come True In The End.
If Andrew Neill is working from France, he might need to check whether or not he has the right to work there post Brexit?? My missus is an employment lawyer & this issue is causing businesses much grief.
If Andrew Neill is working from France, he might need to check whether or not he has the right to work there post Brexit?? My missus is an employment lawyer & this issue is causing businesses much grief.
I believe he has EU citizenship via his Swedish wife, his home in france is his main residence
(yes, the hypocrisy of Neil is that epic)
I think garage has dual citizenship too on account of a German wife or ex-wife.
The sheer hypocrisy is.. Off the chart.
At least get a link with the proper video! You get to watch Pat Benatar attack GB News HQ 🙂
Can this be 80s power-rock thread now? Vote with vidz 🎸
Can this be 80s power-rock thread now?
One of my faves, classic 80s video.
I suspect that the reaction will be to go even more right wing & Foxnewsy
It has to, surely. There's no reason for it to exist otherwise.
It's The Problem With A Brexit Deal all over again, that was too brexity for some and not brexity enough for others. There is no Baby Bear's Porridge to be had here.
I could go out with Pat Benatar, but I'd be thinking of Joan Jett.
Came for the bikes, stayed for the Benatar
LOL! He can take the knee outside the office, on the road, near tube station, on the high street etc ... but no, he just had to do it on the channel to show how much he cares. Does this bloke has a brain? LOL! How on earth do this sort of people get to the top to earn so much?
Does this bloke has a brain?
Oh the ironing. Stop now my sides hurt.
I was going to post something about Poe's law, but it seems kind of redundant
Do bots dream of electric sheep
Do bots dream of electric sheep
Only of zombies only of zombies my dear old chap.
They could always bring back Roland Rat. Worked for TV-am back in the day.
So who's paying for it to keep going?
Advertisers must be scarce
Does this bloke has a brain?
One can only wonder.
I have to admit, I would be genuinely joyous if the channel went under.
It would honestly cheer me up no end. I suspect I won't get my wish for sometime though, if ever but I hope I'm wrong.
After todays stressful tribulations of trying to find my electrician I needed a bit of a pick me up, and this news did just the trick.
"I have to admit, I would be genuinely joyous if the channel went under."
So would Andrew Kneel and Alistair Stewart, they're praying that it goes under before they have to stick to their word and return to the channel.
I could go out with Pat Benatar, but I’d be thinking of Joan Jett.
Is that the most tenuous Red Dwarf quote ever?
Is he going to pull people’s arms out of their sockets if he loses?
Anti-Wokies tend to do that when they lose.
Well, that was predictable wasn’t it.
Farage to have 7pm slot at GB news four days a week
Let's see who wants to advertise during that.
jimw
Free Member
Well, that was predictable wasn’t it.
Farage to have 7pm slot at GB news four days a week
Yes, as I said a few days ago
When Farage flounces out, who will be left at the bottom of the barrel? Starkey? , Yaxley -lenon?
I suspect that the reaction will be to go even more right wing & Foxnewsy
With farage on every night he’ll be on nearly as much as he is on BBC question time.
Desperados
Do bots dream of electric sheep
Nah. Benatar
F me; who is more desperate, farage or gb news?
GB news have been dead in the water from day 1; farage is nothing more than a side show.
Farage to have 7pm slot at GB news four days a week
I reckon they had this ready to go from the beginning. They knew they would get it wrong at some point, so had the big guns in reserve to bring them all back.
More likely Farage wanted too much but now they need a big anchor so this is a last ditch attempt to stay viable.
Thing is, Farage won't stick it- he lost interest in every actual job he's had in politics, he likes the rancour but he doesn't like actually turning up. Let alone 4 days a week, the very idea. He'd have loved it if he'd made it to be PM since it turns out you can just treat it like gardening and do a few hours a week when the weather's nice. But this is too much like work.
Tom - 'big guns'?
Farage is a shit cannon which will explode all over him and gb news.
‘big guns’?
Your stereotypical GBnews viewers will flock to him like flies to shit. Appropriately.
With farage on every night he’ll be on nearly as much as he is on BBC question time.
Well, I laughed.
Farage wanted too much but now they need a big anchor
Damn you, autocorrect?
Tomhoward,
The rumours that Piers Morgan might be joining the channel are cropping up again. Andrew Neil and Alistair Stewart are past their shelf life, they're old and doddery, a line up of Farage and Morgan would be a different proposition, though as I understand it money has been a quibbling point in negotiations back in the spring. Given the circumstances, I think their initial demands will look like a bargain.
We might see how deep the pockets of all the foreign, non British backers of the station are.
Christ. It'll be Katie Hopkins next.
The mistake GB News made was in forgetting that Fox News took about three decades to bring America to it's knees. When Fox News started out it had a lot more news content and gradually increased the opinion side of things over the years, a bit like putting a frog in cold water and turning the temperature up gradually.
GB News dropped the frog straight into boiling waters. My guess is that they will realise this mistake and introduce more straight news programming along with a Piers Morgan breakfast type of show (with or without himself) covering more light hearted fare mixed in with a bit of bile as per the style of GMB.
It's going to cost them exponentially more money, up till now the production values have been shamed by YouTube reaction channels run by 14 year olds and owing to the channels toxicity with regards looking for employment after the whole thing comes crashing down (or your soul has been destroyed), I bet everyone from the tea lady (person) to technicians will be charging a premium. I pity the cleaners too, imagine the filth they have to clean up at the end of the day, I hope they're charging extra too.
Katie Hopkins has just been dumped by her employer so dont count it out
My guess is that they will realise this mistake and introduce more straight news programming
The people that could do (and were arguing for) that sort of "straight" programming are leaving. It looks like there's a fight behind the scene for control My money is on More not Less hard line. Farage is Bannon's 'go to' man in Europe, and probably brings with him a bunch of money and supporters.
BTW, the fact that Katie Hopkins just got deported does sort of feel a bit like a massive WTF moment...haha
I think many people underestimate the attraction and normalisation of bile-wars.
If youtube is anything to go by then the appetitite is for the frog (dead, alive or ressurected) should simply be torn asunder over and over forget the water.
Is the totally unforeseen GBnews perma-gig to be Fauxrage’s tinfoil staircase to being shoehorned in as prime-monster of Brexitannia PM?
You lefties scoffed at Trump and Bozo remember…
GB News swapping presenters is the modern version of throwing various types of shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.
The problem is: it's still shit.
The problem is: it
’s still shitsticks
FTFY
Shit sticks. Brass from muck is a business model.
It’s a box ticking exercise in saving Normal Proper Brits from ‘enemies’
Foreigners? Done
Immigrants? Done
EU membership? Done
Chinese ‘flu’ Done
Now what?
Oh yeah….
GB News viewers boycott channel over free speech
Is there actually a term for the moment when the universe ends in a 'nothing can escape the gravitational pull of the black irony hole' moment?
As David Coleman used to say:
"Quite remarkable".
🇬🇧🍆💦🇬🇧
GB News swapping presenters is the modern version of throwing various types of shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.
The problem is: it’s still shit.
The problem is it is still shit that resides between the ears of too large a proportion of the UK's electorate.
GB News swapping presenters is the modern version of throwing various types of shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.
The problem is: it’s still shit.
If done systematically, you might discover a new type of glue.
Oh go on, you know you want too really…Gird your loins and go for it, see if you can beat my current record of about 2mins before I cave in and change channel.
Ha! Satan will host the Winter Olympics before I would ever watch a second of that sort of dreck. It was bad enough that my late partner would watch early morning telly, often with Piers Morgan, which led to a continuous muttering from me about what a reprehensible little turd the man is!
Is the totally unforeseen GBnews perma-gig to be Fauxrage’s tinfoil staircase to being shoehorned in as prime-monster of Brexitannia PM?
You lefties scoffed at Trump and Bozo remember…
This idea makes me want to cry. It doesn't even seem that far fetched any more.
prime-monster of Brexitannia PM
He can't even get elected as an MP! He's tried enough times as well.........
The prospect of a Farage/ Hopkins/ Morgan Sunday morning debate show putting the world to rights is loomimg closer....
"I do wish Boris wouldn't keep making promises that haven't been delivered on"
Don't we all Nigel, don't we all....
If done systematically, you might discover a new type of glue.
The one that left seemingly immovable skids in the toilet recently, could well be a contender. Stubborn bastard. Resisted even strong bleach.
Farrage is like a floater that keeps popping up no matter how many times you flush. Or that permanent stench you get in plastic wheelie bins, that refuses to go away no matter how many industrial chemicals you throw at it.
We actually have this sticker on our bin:
The woeful production values thing is interesting to me, why is it so bad? There are genuinely amateur YouTube channels that can manage professional looking lighting, sound, graphics overlays etc. Something still fairly crappy like Newsmax looks streets ahead.
Is the budget at GBNews really that poor, or could they just not find anyone vaguely competent who wanted to do it?
BBC now reporting that Gutto Harri has also pulled the pin on GB News...
The prospect of a Farage/ Hopkins/ Morgan Sunday morning debate show putting the world to rights is loomimg closer….
but then we'll at least know where they are and we can chain the doors from the outside before cutting the camera feed
I didn't even know which channel GB News was on so was checking them on Youtube previously.
Well, now I found out they are on Freeview 236. Freeview 236 for anyone interested.
I think it is good to have another channel to challenge the prevailing views regardless.
Most news channels regardless are just recycled news anyway so nothing new there.
As for that bloke Gutto Harri ... yeah ... as in the words of the Aussie bloke commenting on the Aussie bloke weather forecast ... "yaah, nobody give a ... " <--- LOL!
Christ. It’ll be Katie Hopkins next.
She's being deported from Australia. Lol! The irony...
She’s being deported from Australia. Lol! The irony…
I think "too racist for Australia" is the title of her new book
She’s being deported from Australia. Lol! The irony…
I think “too racist for Australia” is the title of her new book
LOL! Aussie Wokies are up in arms ...
Killfile specialist to the forum please.
I think it is good to have another channel to challenge the prevailing views regardless.
Just because something or someone is contrary that doesn't mean it or they have value.
On the production values I think I read they were trialling quite a lot of new technology to automate production processes. Seemingly this was to save money, but maybe they couldn’t recruit people. Either way I think this is part of what has caused the production quality issues…
Just because something or someone is contrary that doesn’t mean it or they have value.
That's true but who has the right value?
Just because something or someone is contrary that doesn’t mean it or they have value.
Absolutely this. Also, don't feed the troll folks.
The woeful production values thing is interesting to me, why is it so bad?
Half the problem, often, is not lacking money, its simply not considering that there's a job to be done. TV done well looks like its easy to do. It's not necessarily a case of not being able to find anyone competent - its not looking for anyone competent - not believing that competent people are required or even that the things that need to be done are a job.
Theres making it look easy .... and making it look like you think it's easy.
Chewkw. If your response to this thread is an example of “…challenging the prevailing views” - I’ll pass, thanks.
Your approach of taking a contrary perspective is just a little sad. I don’t care whether you honestly believe it, do it for kicks or are motivated by something else entirely, but the excuses you have made for intolerance on many, many threads is not only tiresome it’s poisonous.
You’ve tried to defend Islamaphobia on other threads and racism on this using some variant on defending plurality of thought or liberalism.
Just stop.
https://twitter.com/mrdavidcwalker/status/1415972525721497600?s=21
It was only a matter of time till this meme was resurrected
And I’m not sure if this is a parody or not but good to see Neil Oliver driving a stake through his career as as a pseudo archaeologist/shit historian
https://twitter.com/gbnews/status/1416463112367132674?s=21
If your response to this thread is an example of “…challenging the prevailing views” – I’ll pass, thanks.
Honestly, don't engage with the troll otherwise you'll get sucked into a parallel thread of non-sequiturs and fact free assertions. It doesn't matter if he/they are badly misinformed or are simply trying to get someone to rise to it, the net effect is exactly the same. Ignore and move on.
but the excuses you have made for intolerance on many, many threads is not only tiresome it’s poisonous.
It's done on purpose, just as surely as there are people who let their dogs shit all over the pavement, despite signs up everywhere saying "please don't let your dogs shit on the pavement". If we refuse to engage with the individual on their terms, they'll eventually go and annoy another corner of the internet somewhere.
That’s true but who has the right value?
You are obviously free to make your own mind up on that, however in my opinion (which you are of course, free to ignore) the recent and depressing phenomenon of giving equal weight to opinions from 'contrary' individuals (to pick a nice term) as from experts in the field is leading to some pretty poor outcomes.
To give an example that I reckon is a light to medium in the contentiousness stakes, what about childbirth? In the last century mortality rates for childbirth in developed countries has plummeted. This has coincided with most children being born in hospitals which have obviously got a lot better at this sort of thing over time.
Person 1 (not a doctor) argues that you should actually go back to how things were back in the good old days when nature was allowed to take its course all natural like, and give birth at home where you're comfortable and feel safe. Person 2 (an actual doctor) argues that hospitals are statistically safer places to give birth. Whose opinion has the 'right value'? Whose opinion, if broadcast, is likely to lead to objectively better outcomes over time?
EDIT: sorry for engaging, will stop now.
And I’m not sure if this is a parody or not but good to see Neil Oliver driving a stake through his career as as a pseudo archaeologist/shit historian
Usual problem of someone who turns into a commentator, reminds me of the tripe in guardian Op-Ed's. Problem is that the boring line of Covid is crap, it has made life difficult but we've been lucky and got on with it following government advice as best we can during a public health crisis is a bit tedious and doesn't get many clicks
The weird thing about Neil Oliver is... even while he was making programmes about things I'm interested in, and his actual content if written down an interesting read... I could never manage more than 10 minutes of his shows because of what I assumed was an irrational and misplaced feeling that he was an insufferable arse. Turns out... that feeling was correct.
Person 1 (not a doctor) argues that you should actually go back to how things were back in the good old days when nature was allowed to take its course all natural like, and give birth at home where you’re comfortable and feel safe. Person 2 (an actual doctor) argues that hospitals are statistically safer places to give birth. Whose opinion has the ‘right value’? Whose opinion, if broadcast, is likely to lead to objectively better outcomes over time?
Does person 2 then discuss the UK maternity unit scandals that are still unraveling... ..
Or is it that actually it's not a binary thing and that there is choice based on risk factors
The problem is that TV tries to setup two contrary talking heads rather than getting into the principles and nuance
The weird thing about Neil Oliver is… even while he was making programmes about things I’m interested in, and his actual content if written down an interesting read… I could never manage more than 10 minutes of his shows because of what I assumed was an irrational and misplaced feeling that he was an insufferable arse. Turns out… that feeling was correct.
I think it's the Lorraine Kelly effect, he's playing a character, a Neil Oliver turned up to 11, it's not him in normal life, it also has enormous tax advantages
Well... if it can get you all the way to No 10...
Does person 2 then discuss the UK maternity unit scandals that are still unraveling… ..
Or is it that actually it’s not a binary thing and that there is choice based on risk factors
The problem is that TV tries to setup two contrary talking heads rather than getting into the principles and nuance
It's absolutely not a binary thing, but once there are two opposing talking heads you tend to fall into a tribal camp and look where that gets us? There will always be reasons to distrust the 'so called experts', from scare stories that you've seen in the news to your mate telling you that he saw this thing on YouTube that blew the whole thing wide open and that you should do your own research. We're not very good at separating out those personal anecdotes from the very impersonal numbers that the expert might be arguing for.
'Children die due to maternity scandal' is obviously much more likely to gain media traction than 'hospital saves life of woman giving birth', because the second one is just 'normal' and therefore boring and unlikely to offend. Again, just because something is sensationalist (or contrary), doesn't mean it definitely has value for the wider group.