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As always, I think care needs to be taken that we don't lump all Israelis into the same homogenous grouping. Like all populations, the support for their government actions will range from full on moronic murder lust to absolute disgust and horror.
True, of course, but as detailed above, a majority come down on the “depraved psychopath” side of the equation.
care needs to be taken that we don't lump all Israelis into the same homogenous grouping
Of course, this analysis earlier this week of Israeli public opinion in Israel's oldest newspaper makes that point very clearly :
Edit : The article can be read by pasting the URL here:
French prosecutors are investigating whether French-Israeli activists are complicit in genocide and responsible for crimes against humanity after they were accused of trying to block aid trucks from entering Gaza.
France’s National Anti-Terrorist Prosecutor’s Office said in a statement to POLITICO Friday that the probes were triggered after two nongovernmental organizations lodged complaints in November.
https://www.politico.eu/article/france-protests-gaza-palestine-aid-israel-investigation-genocide/
No idea what the other non-governmental organisation is but I found this interesting :
A spokesperson for the French Jewish Union for Peace, one of the organizations whose complaint sparked the investigation, said it would also work to have French-Israeli soldiers who took part in the military campaign in Gaza prosecuted.
So yet another example of Jews at the very forefront of the fight against genocidal zionists.
The shame never ends, really, does it?
Memo to Israel - keep on killing
Good to see the Israeli propaganda machine being exposed for what it is, the kickback online against the influencers will hopefully destroy them
The FT has a report on how Gaza’s “supposed” food distribution zones are turned into kill zones with Israel’s use of drones, Soldiers/Snipers firing on those queuing for food.
I guess the reporting in the FT is antisemitic now?, after all the IDF are the most moral army in the world……..
"The casualties were heaviest on two days. Israeli forces killed 27 people and injured 161 waiting for aid on Tuesday morning"
Can you imagine the outcry if Palestinians under occupation managed to kill 27 Israelis before lunchtime? Can you imagine the headlines?
The IDF has declared the aid distribution centres as combat zones so it gives them the opportunity to freely kill Palestinian civilians out in the open.
And why would they do that? Well firstly because they don't believe that there are any innocent people in Gaza so they are all legitimate targets. Secondly the IDF has always fought a psychological war based on terror to break the Palestinian people.
Bombing schools and hospitals is part of Israel's terror campaign, it sends a clear message that absolutely nowhere, including areas under the authority of the United Nations, is safe for them. Killing starving civilians is part of that terror campaign designed to drive home the message that the Palestinians are powerless and the situation is hopeless for them.
Genocide is as much about destroying the will of a people as it is destroying their homes, hospitals, schools, places of worship, etc
BBC News getting clearer in their coverage
BBC News - Israel is accused of the gravest war crimes in Gaza - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0r1xl5wgnko
There’s just been an absolute lunatic on Radio 4, an advisor to Ben Gvir, ranting (and I do mean ranting) about the UK ‘sucking up to Hamas’ because it has been ‘taken over by Jihadists’.
He sounded absolutely unhinged!
Its worth a listen just as an indication of the totally insane extremism of the settlers and their supporters.
This was followed by Andrew Mitchell reiterating the complete support for these ultra-violent nutters by the Tory party
^ The entire settler movement (700,000+) including every single person who lives in settler encampments/towns/villages etc need sanctioned, along with 85% of the Israeli government.
Shut the Israeli state down by economic sanctions,
Whatever measures are taken now, it's 58 years too late.
There’s just been an absolute lunatic on Radio 4, an advisor to Ben Gvir, ranting (and I do mean ranting) about the UK ‘sucking up to Hamas’ because it has been ‘taken over by Jihadists’.
Just listened to it on R4, Yishai Fleisher who's merely another zionist gobshite - drop him in Gaza and lets see him talk his rhetoric, the entire zionist movement should be treated as a terrorist organisation
And to think the UN bombed Serbia 25 years ago for conducting themselves in a similar, but far less vicious, way.
Now look at us. Flotsam on the sea of events with a **** as POTUS and, largely as a result of that, no effective multinational force or even conscience.
He sounded absolutely unhinged!
Should have been switched off. Absolutely batshit. And nasty.
Blimey this is impressive, it includes people who are the very last people that I would expect to be involved, including members of Unit 8200
They are obviously rejecting the Nuremberg defence "I was only following orders", as you would expect anyone aware of the Holocaust to.
Addressing the impact of the offensive on civilians in the territory, the group wrote: “When a government acts for ulterior motives, harms civilians and leads to the killing of innocent people, the orders it issues are clearly illegal, and we must not obey them.”
And they are clear that the aim is genocide :
In an interview, they said: “I felt that it was immoral and insanely excessive. I felt that they stopped thinking and feeling, and they were willing to do everything to achieve a goal that wasn’t really a real goal … and if there is a goal, it’s to try to get rid of Gaza’s population by any means.”
There’s just been an absolute lunatic on Radio 4, an advisor to Ben Gvir, ranting (and I do mean ranting) about the UK ‘sucking up to Hamas’ because it has been ‘taken over by Jihadists’
Hate-filled gnome given air time by the BBC, with no real push back No wonder Lammy and co can get by only giving lip service to the straining Israel.
Blimey this is impressive, it includes people who are the very last people that I would expect to be involved, including members of Unit 8200
Really Ernie - I’m impressed by your optimism and ability to see the positive in any situation a few Israelis manage to find the conscience to not kill children put out the flags!!
It reminds me of this song by Tom Lehrer:
Remember the war against Franco?That's the kind where each of us belongsThough he may have won all the battlesWe had all the good songs
"the straining" -> restraining 🙂
Though maybe it was better that way around.
Really Ernie - I’m impressed by your optimism
Optimism, is that what you call it? Open and very public rebellion by IDF intelligence officers is bad news for the current far-right genocidal Israeli government whichever way you look at it.
Your ability to maintain a negative angle on absolutely every single piece of news on Gaza is probably more impressive, how do you manage it?
Perhaps you think that this thread should only include news reports that are 100% negative?
Btw I didn't find that particular article myself it was brought to my attention when it was posted on a local Palestine solidarity WhatsApp group which includes members of the Palestinian diaspora and one individual living in Gaza.
Including a comic song in my post was maybe a clue that I was indulging in a bit of teasing. Of course there is lots of good news coming out of Gaza. I heard an Israeli mouthpiece - I forget which one - declaring that the current starvation campaign was reducing deaths from obesity, so there's that.
Dunno if that link works, but it’s a remarkable interview. If only Jon Snow were still around.
Including a comic song in my post was maybe a clue that I was indulging in a bit of teasing.
Oh yeah I saw that, my apologies, I thought you were taking the piss.
I didn't realise you were teasing.
Surprised there's been no mention of Greta's aid mission to Gaza? The one where they kidnapped the crew in international waters, 'deported' four of them by plane, and are still holding and torturing the rest - one of whom is an MEP.
Ok not Gaza, but is it very much linked?
Has Trump said to Israel that he will keep supporting their Genocide so long as they take out Iran nuclear threat. Thats my conspiracy theory anyhow
Or is it’s Israel’s head just getting bigger and bigger
Trump said he was ‘aware’ that Israel intended to launch strikes, though claims that the US had no part in it.
So he essentially did what he’s done all along in Gaza, the West Bank etc… just shrugged and said “yeah, do whatever you like….”
I wonder if Israel is hoping to provoke a big attack from Iran to gain some sympathy, or at least deflect attention from the Gaza genocide.
How do you think the people of Gaza are going to do if Iran gets nukes and launches them at Israel? Just wondering.
I wonder if Israel is hoping to provoke a big attack from Iran to gain some sympathy, or at least deflect attention from the Gaza genocide
The Mullahs in Tehran and Netenyahu are two cheeks of the same arse. They’re both motivated by the same thing…. self-interest. Going starting all manner of shit all over the region purely for the purpose of keeping themselves in power
Unfortunately, neither of them give a shit about how many people have to die for them to achieve that. They’re both as bad as each other, which is unfortunate if you’re stuck in the middle of them.
Will Starmer be volunteering the RAF for duty defending against Iranian retaliation?
How do you think the people of Gaza are going to do if Iran gets nukes and launches them at Israel? Just wondering.
How much does Iran actually care about Gazans/Palestinians? Genuine question - I'm not really clued up on the wider Middle East politics & relations.
Does Iran have much connection with Palestinians? Or is it (from Iran's point of view) just a useful tool to attack Israel with?
The whole nuke situation is complex anyway. Assuming Iran is actively trying to make a bomb - then what? Declare it, and use it as most countries use nuclear capabilities, as a threat and deterrent? Or are they serious/fanatical enough to actually want to hit Israel, in which case keep it secret until they just fire the thing? And making it is only half the story, they still need to deliver it. Israel has good air defences. It would be a waste to spend all these years making the thing just to watch it rain down in bits over Syria or somewhere.
Just thinking out loud really. Probably displaying my ignorance in many areas!
Upon me wondering what Iran will do next, a friend said "the first thing you do when predicting the future is to look to the past. The first thing you learn from the past is that you can't predict the future."
True but unhelpful!
Will Starmer be volunteering the RAF for duty defending against Iranian retaliation?
I don’t think he will, although he still needs to grow a pair, he does appear to be distancing from US views on this
How much does Iran actually care about Gazans/Palestinians? Genuine question - I'm not really clued up on the wider Middle East politics & relations
The hardline lunatics running Iran couldn’t give a flying **** about their own people, most of whom want rid of their despotic autocracy. So they torture and murder any of them, without a second thought, if they dare to criticise the regime.
So, despite their posturing, you can probably guess how much they actually care about the Palestinians (or anyone else other than themselves, for that matter)
Assuming Iran is actively trying to make a bomb - then what? Declare it, and use it as most countries use nuclear capabilities, as a threat and deterrent
They want to be a nuclear power so they can threaten everyone else in the region, who will be asking the same question as you did… are they actually mad enough to use it?
If they did actually have a nuclear capability it would immediately start a huge new arms race as absolutely nobody in the Middle East would want the nutters in Tehran holding that over them all. So Saudi would be the first to also want a nuclear capability too, closely followed by everyone else
Its safe to say that absolutely no other country on the planet would be happy to see Iran become a nuclear power, apart from maybe Russia, but that probably would be a step too far even for Putin
Doesn't Iran have a commitment to remove Israel? Not the sort of neighbour I'd want if I saw them unboxing a bazooka.
Nadine shah not in the mood to mince her words on the ****ing cowards at the BBC for deciding not to show her brothers film, she’s quite right to……whatever abuse they receive it’s entirely justified
Doesn't Iran have a commitment to remove Israel? Not the sort of neighbour I'd want if I saw them unboxing a bazooka.
Israel seem rather more keen and committed to removing Iran, and they demonstrate their commitment with an unprovoked military campaign. Israel have been claiming Iran are months away from developing a nuclear bomb for decades and using it as an excuse to destabilize the region. Israel is the neighbour with the bazooka, and they use it to intimidate and terrorise the neighbourhood.
Israel has more than just a commitment to "remove" Palestine from the face of the Earth
Yet, apparently they're not going to ethnically cleanse Gaza?
What do we think today's atrocity will be - opening fire on another food queue in "self defence"?
Or something more imaginative?
What do we think today's atrocity will be - opening fire on another food queue in "self defence"?
The IDF have been murdering Palestinians seeking aid every day. The fact that it has not been getting much news coverage is a testament to how effective Netanyahu's decision to attack Iran has been in diverting attention away from the genocide Israel is committing in Gaza.
The IDF murdered at least 24 Palestinians waiting for aid yesterday.
On Friday at least 24 people waiting for aid were killed by Israeli fire in central Gaza, according to local health authorities, in addition to other deaths by airstrikes.
Hundreds of Palestinians have been killed in recent weeks while trying either to reach aid distribution points managed by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), a secretive US- and Israel-backed organisation that recently started to hand out food in the territory or, more recently, to offload the limited number of UN and commercial vehicles carrying flour and some other basics.
Meanwhile the BBC are not even pretending to be a news organisation any more.
Starve the population, then slaughter them as they try and get aid, to make the remaining starving population fearful of even attempting to feed themselves and their families. It is unimaginable cruelty for most of us but not for the Israel regime and most of the western governments who are happy to turn a blind eye.
Meanwhile the poor wee lambs (sacrificial?) can't get on a flight to flee Israel due to the airspace currently closed down to commercial flights so our government are laying on an exit strategy for them.
How easy was it for british nationals to flee Palestine?, did the British government lay on flights for them?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdez72x9pkdo
Starmsky's now saying it's inappropriate to have those three young men perform (at Glasto).
Starmsky's now saying it's inappropriate to have those three young men perform (at Glasto).
To no one’s surprise at all, the “Henry Jackson” society just being ****s
https://twitter.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1937279375260754053
I think he’s so far out of *ing touch that I consider Kier to be death for the Labour Party. He’s utterly *ing irreverent to every single person I know, as is the Labour Party.
He is immune to objections. He is riding the wave of power at the moment and will use all the power he can to silence oppositions. Just keep observing.
One soldier who spoke anonymously with Haaretz described the approach routes to the aid sites as a “killing field” where Israeli forces open fire even if there is no immediate threat. According to the article, Israeli forces recently began dispersing crowds with artillery shells, which resulted in a sharp rise in casualties.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/27/middleeast/idf-gaza-aid-distribution-orders-intl-latam
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Israel Katz have also rejected the report as “vicious lies designed to discredit the IDF – the most moral army in the world.”
And who is publishing vicious lies to discredit the most moral army in the world? Israel's oldest newspaper. Presumably Haaretz has now, for whatever reason, decided to help Hamas.
Netanyahu has also accused Haaretz of "blood libel" one of the oldest anti-semitic tropes. So Haaretz is apparently now anti-semitic.
This current far-right Israeli government has reached such staggering levels of dishonesty that in that respect it is no different to Nazis Germany or North Korea. I mean ridiculous claims such as "the most moral army in the world" are exactly the sort of claims that officers of the Waffen-SS would have made.
I mean ridiculous claims such as "the most moral army in the world" are exactly the sort of claims that officers of the Waffen-SS would have made.
Well I see that the IDF are investigating these claims, so I'm sure the miscreants (if, indeed, there were any, and these folk were actually killed by Hamas, or not killed at all, just lying very still on the ground) will be swiftly brought to justice. After all, rule of law is a mark of a functioning democracy.
Shame on the BBC, but well done C4
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/jun/28/channel-4-to-show-bbc-commissioned-documentary-gaza-doctors-under-attack
From the article :
"We have come to the conclusion that broadcasting this material risked creating a perception of partiality that would not meet the high standards that the public rightly expect of the BBC"
High standards? The only reason they are concerned about "perception of partiality" is because the accusations are directed at Israel.
They would have absolutely no qualms whatsoever reporting accusations of war crimes or atrocities directed at say Russia or China.
High standards don't involve double standards.
I have always been a huge defender of the BBC as it has relentlessly faced criticism from all sides, believing that it was a British institution which was an example to the world and that Britain could be truly proud of.
The BBC's reporting of the Gaza "war" has been nothing short of shocking and disgraceful imo. It shows just how much the BBC fears the sitting government post their expose of the dodgy Iraq dossier.
Daniel Levy speaking the truth regarding (I consider it so) Israel
I have always been a huge defender of the BBC as it has relentlessly faced criticism from all sides, believing that it was a British institution which was an example to the world and that Britain could be truly proud of.
The BBC News was something we always watched, more or less by default. Likewise Newsnight. Nowadays we never watch any BBC News programmes. The choice of what to report, and then how they report it, are just too blatant. It's like the Mail on telly. They have some good journalists - I'm looking forward to reading Orla Guerin's autobiography, if she lives to write it - but their reports are few and far between now.
Yeah but you can't blame the BBC itself for that, the blame lies squarely with the Labour Party and Alistair Campbell in particular.
The BBC told the truth about Campbell's/Blair's dodgy Iraq dossier and as a consequence the BBC's Chairman and Director General were sacked.
Eventually the BBC were vindicated and now everyone fully accepts that Campbell's/Blair's Iraq dossier was very dodgy indeed , but by then the damage had been done and to this day the BBC is terrified of upsetting any sitting government.
You can't realistically expect the BBC to tell the truth about the genocide in Gaza if its Chairman and Director General are likely to be sacked for upsetting the government.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/jan/28/davidkelly.hutton2
Israel Defense Forces warned of “military operations [that] will escalate, intensify, and extend westward to the city centre to destroy the capabilities of terrorist organisations”
For nearly two years one of the best equipped armed forces in the world has thrown everything at a tiny overcrowded strip of land with no defences and still they haven't managed to defeat Hamas, despite officially declaring months ago that Hamas had been totally defeated.
In fact the situation is so serious that they now need to 'escalate and intensify' military operations, after 20 months.
What's gone wrong, not enough weapons to do the job? Starving the population hasn't worked? Not enough people slaughtered? Can't break the morale? Too incompetent? There must surely be an explanation.
There must surely be an explanation.
I know if they killed members of my family then I would be rather forceful in my actions against them,
Nadine has a particular gripe with the BBC regarding her brothers film not being shown, it’s no wonder the ****ing cowards didn’t broadcast her set earlier
https://twitter.com/coldwarsteve/status/1939329011148370018
So the court has decided that selling equipment for bombing children is fine. Still, it’s all democratic, eh?
lowkey absolutely on point regarding the political and media pile on, he shows far worse chants but from “the other side”
BBC lunchtime news leading with a lie.
Good interview, I’ve been following his writing in “The New Republic” for a few months now.
I've been following the Bob Vylan / Glasto reporting. Is anyone else getting really fed up of the constant cry of antisemitism? Of course I do not support any chants of death to anyone, it is not helpful and distracts from the core argument . But it must be okay to object to war crimes, to object to man-made humanitarian crisis and object to killing of civilians at aid stations, without being call antisemitic. It just feels like a lazy counter argument designed to scare people, and media, off from calling out the bloody obvious.
Writing on X, Sir Ephraim Mirvis wrote:, external "This is a time of national shame. The airing of vile Jew-hatred at Glastonbury and the BBC's belated and mishandled response, brings confidence in our national broadcaster's ability to treat antisemitism seriously to a new low.
"It should trouble all decent people that now, one need only couch their outright incitement to violence and hatred as edgy political commentary, for ordinary people to not only fail to see it for what it is, but also to cheer it, chant it and celebrate it. Toxic Jew-hatred is a threat to our entire society."
Mirvis is always saying stuff like this. A bird tweets and he claims it's antisemitic. This is the guy who seems fine with chanting "death to Arabs"
The problem is that accusations of anti-semitism is all that zionists have, even when responding to criticism from Jews.
Racists very often claim to be the victim of racism, think the BNP, the EDL, and Nazis during WW2
Edit : And the other thing to note of course is no one helps more to propagate anti-jewish racism than people like Benjamin Netanyahu who loudly, and falsely, proclaims to the world that what he does is in on behalf of World Jewry.
Is anyone else getting really fed up of the constant cry of antisemitism?
Yes!
If nothing else, it's so obviously nonsense it detracts attention from real anti-semitism.
Of course I do not support any chants of death to anyone, it is not helpful and distracts from the core argument . But it must be okay to object to war crimes, to object to man-made humanitarian crisis and object to killing of civilians at aid stations, without being call antisemitic. It just feels like a lazy counter argument designed to scare people, and media, off from calling out the bloody obvious.
Absolutely. But calling for the deaths of IDF soldiers is more than "not helpful", it reduces you to the level of anyone else that thinks genocide is a good solution here.
Yours, ossify. Fully paid-up Jew. 😉
calling for the deaths of IDF soldiers
As has been said many times, that didn't happen. Unlike the chants of "death to Arabs".
In accordance with moderator's requests, I'm going to respond to a post on the RAF thread, here:
Given a choice between a dead Palestinian or a dead Israeli Sir Keir Starmer would very clearly prefer a dead Palestinian. I on the other hand would prefer a dead Israeli.
How about a choice of no deaths at all? It's always an option. If you wish to choose between people based on their race, culture or nationality, then that makes you, by definition, a racist. To say that one life is worth more than another, is racism.
I base my conclusion on the fact that Israel is illegally occupying Palestine and under international law it is perfectly legal to violently oppose foreign occupation, my position in rooted in legality.
What 'legality'? Israel is a legitimate state recognised in international law, as is Palestine. Do you wish to deny Israelis their right to statehood? To deny them the same rights you'd afford others, based on where they are born or what their passport says? Again that would be racism.
Sir Keir Starmer's position on the other hand is rooted in illegality - the illegal occupation of Palestine.
Are you talking about just the illegal settlements in the West Bank? Because the rest of Israel is 'legal' in international law. What are your views on Gibraltar, or the Falkland Islands?
So is this a "war" as the media constantly tells us that it is or not? I have never heard of a war where only one side is expected to do the killing.
Right now, it is a genocide, but as one-sided as it seems, Hamas have still been firing rockets into Israel and targeting civilians. This is fact.
Unlike the chants of "death to Arabs"
Yup, calling for the death of an army actively involved in genocide and war crimes, many of whom aren't even Jewish, isn't the same as calling for the death of an entire race.
Yup, calling for the death of an army actively involved in genocide and war crimes, many of whom aren't even Jewish, isn't the same as calling for the death of an entire race.
I can agree with that but still don't agree with calling for their death.
As has been said many times, that didn't happen. Unlike the chants of "death to Arabs".
Sorry, the IDF, not IDF soldiers. Splitting hairs here.
calling for the deaths of IDF soldiers
As has been said many times, that didn't happen. Unlike the chants of "death to Arabs".
As much as you'e like to apply your own revisionism to this, it did happen, and there's video of it occurring. It cannot be denied. It is fact. Chanting 'death to the IDF' is calling for human beings to die. Human beings like members of my own family. Every single Jewish person I know, is appalled by what Bob Vylan did. It's not just the few simple words; it's the wave of antisemitism that inevitably follows events like this. Every single Jewish person I know is wary of being open about their Jewishness, in public. People are no longer wearing Magen Davids visibly. Some are choosing not to wear kippah on shabbat, for fear of being attacked. Antisemitic attacks have risen sharply in the UK in the last couple of years. Jewish is now being conflated with Israel. Every Jewish person I know finds themselves being grilled about Israel etc, if they dare let it be known they are Jewish. I myself am witnessing and having to challenge antisemitism on a regular basis. To dismiss the chants of 'death to the IDF' is to dismiss the problem of growing antisemitism. So, please; enough with the revisionism.
I've been following the Bob Vylan / Glasto reporting. Is anyone else getting really fed up of the constant cry of antisemitism? Of course I do not support any chants of death to anyone, it is not helpful and distracts from the core argument .
I'm not bothered by what he called for, considering the hundreds/thousands of war crimes/killings/deaths the IDF have carried out I consider it an entirely justifiable position...... 😆 but.....but....but.....the most moral army in the world......... 😆 ............yeah that's ****ing bullshit, they've exposed who they are, and it aint moral.
So what we should be saying to express the revulsion we feel for the genocide that Israel is committing?
“Prime Minister announces cuts to the NHS”
I assume that means that doctors and nurses are being attacked with knives? Or does “the NHS” mean something else? So give it a rest with the pathetic victimhood.
Jewish is now being conflated with Israel. Every Jewish person I know finds themselves being grilled about Israel etc, if they dare let it be known they are Jewish.
Given that the Chief Rabbi and the Board of Deputies are staunch supporters of the genocide, that’s an easy mistake to make. Now maybe you understand how it feels to be a Muslim in Britain and held responsible for Al Qaeda. The difference being, of course, that the Muslim leaders did not speak out in support of Osama Bin Laden.
So what we should be saying to express the revulsion we feel for the genocide that Israel is committing?
That it must stop.
That our own governments should use boycotts, sanctions and be outspoken in calling for it to end.
I'm not ready to call for anyone to be killed. Well, apart from perhaps some key politicians that are using this war to avoid jail and keep power. That's targeting those specifically to blame for avoiding peace, rather than a general attack on those caught up in the war.
"The situation is terrifying... the increasing pace of bombings, mass evacuations, and food shortages are forcing us to do things we never imagined, even in our worst nightmares. I went to Netzarim, the area where aid trucks enter — aid that is constantly being stolen. We couldn’t find anything to eat, so I decided to go there. I went daily for a week, and every day we saw death around us. Many people died in front of me, bullets flew over our heads, and every now and then we had to throw ourselves to the ground to avoid getting shot.
Once, aid trucks arrived as I got there — it was literally like a battlefield. Everyone was pushing and hitting each other, the army was shooting, planes were flying above us. And after all that chaos, I managed to get just three cans of beans! I swear it wasn’t even worth the exhaustion I went through.I saw a child suffocate while trying to gather cans that fell to the ground — people stepped on him, can you imagine?! Another young man got his foot crushed under the weight of the crowd. Someone else was shot in the neck and died instantly.
All these scenes keep replaying in my mind. At the same time, we walk long distances to collect water, light fires to cook — and sometimes we can’t even do that because we don’t always have food And in the middle of all this, there’s another part of me: I’m a student studying law in English at Al-Azhar University, attending classes online, preparing for exams and trying to keep studying.
The problem is that accusations of anti-semitism is all that zionists have, even when responding to criticism from Jews.
I think when it's other Jews protesting, they term it blood liable instead.
I'd hate to be thought of as an antisemite, but I'm definitely antizionist.
“Prime Minister announces cuts to the NHS”
I assume that means that doctors and nurses are being attacked with knives? Or does “the NHS” mean something else? So give it a rest with the pathetic victimhood.
Oh come off it, don't be so disingenuous.
I have a brother working in the NHS. Would I be worried for his safety if I heard people calling for "death to the NHS"? No, I'd think they were talking about the organisation, not the individual people.
But in the current context of war, genocide and actual killings on both sides, calling for "death to the IDF" means death, pretty obviously. But of course you have the deniable plausibility defence of turning around all innocence and saying "oh, of course I didn't mean actual death, not like the other side does, no way".
Maybe he didn't mean death. Should've thought it through a bit better then, before leading a public chant.
Jewish is now being conflated with Israel
Not as much as any criticism whatsoever of the Israel regime and it’s genocide is immediately labeled as antisemitism
But yeah - Glastonbury.
The discussion about Glastonbury should not be allowed to overshadow the horrifying reality of what's actually happening in Gaza. That said, it should still be discussed.