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Are you Australian MrSmith?
How very dare you suggest such nonsense!
Again I ask MrSmith, are you an Aussie? Or have you lived Downunder? Just wondering due to your repeated use of the word Bogan... Do you even know what that bit of vernacular references?
Edit: ah, just saw your reply...
I think MrSmith might be an upper-middle bogan 😉
there were plenty of Bogans in MachestSTAR before Warne & Warner arrived 🙂
Warnie's teeth appear to be iridescently glowing in the box
Another over?
Indeed Zokes, indeed...
Very good position this, finally! Expecting to see some fireworks after lunch, get the Poms in after tea, couple of wickets this afternoon, all good 🙂
It's going to be a tough one to win still, we need twenty wickets and that isn't going to be particularly easy given the form of the English top-order, but, runs on the board from our batsman will hopefully inspire confidence in the bowling unit (not that they're particularly low on that, they've done very well in general). Final session this evening and first tomorrow will be critical for Australia's chances of a win...
Yep all in for Oz if it was a single game, the only thing that could unsettle England is some madness or a desire for 5-0. A draw won't change the series outcome but loosing will.
Well that was a big one 200th to deny 200
So many scenarios that could play out in this test.
Maybe something similar to this? 😉
[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/9236435.stm ]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/9236435.stm[/url]
I was hoping more for this, only roles reversed...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/england/6199480.stm
How many of the English team wear those snake oil Power Balance bracelets (or something similar looking ?)
Should be some entertaining batting to tea now, wouldn't be surprised to see a declaration before tea actually, get the openers in for an awkward 5-10 overs or so...
Should be some entertaining batting to tea now, wouldn't be surprised to see a declaration before tea, get the openers in for an awkward 5-10 overs or so...
The way they are swinging tea looks a long way off!!
Still with the Ozzies so far though
wouldn't be surprised to see a declaration before tea, get the openers in for an awkward 5-10 overs or so...
You want to reenact that Adelaide test in reverse then? 😆
527-7.
Big. Good wicket though
Time for KP to make his mark on this series* 😉
* or get out for 5 attempting a stoopid shot.
Declared at 527-7. I think Clarke's been very conservative - there's likely to be rain and a draw's no good to him. Still, we'll see.
👿
I've bought a ticket for Monday
England shall either have 2 collapses or it'll be a wash out
Just quoting myself.... 🙂
I think we're getting a little carried away. Remember how close the first test was. [b]Clarke is capable of big scores (though he needs to man up and promote himself up the order).[/b]
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/game-on-first-test-spoilers/page/19#post-5178489
Just quoting myself....
Why?
It's not quite as bad as it looks, as thankfully the obsession with the night watchman continues. It's a good century from Clarke on a good batting pitch. I guess we'll see what both the English batters and Aussie bowlers are made of today.
Well not the best to wake up to but felt better when I saw the 2 was Bresnan. Bat all day tomorrow and plough on, it's the only way and see how much the Ozzies want to win it.
This could yet turn into a very fine Test match, thanks to the position in the series. Australia have to try to force a victory. England have to bat for 2.5 days, nothing more.
I think England will be targeting around 400-425 as a safe score, which is eminently gettable on this pitch. That'll probably take until mid afternoon tomorrow. Of course they'll try to get more and bat longer, but supposing they give up a 100 run deficit, Australia then have 4.5 sessions to force a result. They can't put an out of sight total up, they'll have to dangle a significant carrot / bat with abandon to score quickly / leave themselves enough time to take another 10 wickets, which means that to me, all three results are still very possible.
Add in the possibility - nay, likelihood - of weather interruptions; I think a draw is the most likely outcome.
Next hour could be critical though.
Pivotal day in the match, if aus can post a score on that track, then so should England.
I'm amazed they left Lyon out of the first two games, he gives it a nice rip and varies his pace nicely. He will be the main threat I think. Siddle will plug away, Starc is a bit hit and miss. I've never rated Harris.
It's a mental test for England today. They haven't been in this position yet in the series. Some cracks were appearing at the end of day 1. Great bowler Anderson may be, but he has always acted like a child when things are not running for him, and Broad is also prone to a tantrum. Anderson going around the wicket to right handers with a brand new ball was out of order. He should have gone wider on the crease or pulled his mark back a bit. Fact is, he wasn't getting his way, and he threw the towel in.
Come on boys, dig in. A draw is no good to them. Occupy the crease and let them know they are going to have to TAKE eight wickets rather than just plonking the ball down and waiting for a mistake.
Yes! Great catch Haddin! 😀
Yes! Great catch Haddin!
Yup, crap ball to get out to, but amazing catch.
Bell lucky to still be there - didn't snicko show he actually hit that one that only Haddin went up for?
As did a video still shot, super fine edge, no hotspot on replay. No idea if the DRS system would've overruled the original decision if they'd reviewed it, definition of a lottery really!
what DRS or that call
he would have benefit of the doubt given that The Aussie guy missed it and that was enough, 49/9% is not enough to be sure it would dislodge the bails etc
Still you must be proud of them this test they have not been outplayed and have England on the back foot which has surprised me
I suspect a very high scoring draw though
I still can't see the bogans having enough time to take 20 wickets in this match, if England can continue to crawl along at less than 2 an over for the rest of today and into tomorrow then any flicker of the ashes being reclaimed will be gone. I doubt England will panic even if the follow on gets enforced.
Turning into a good test match, obligatory 'not over till the fat lady sings' quote.
That's a tad unfortunate
For who?
The wickets could tumble and follow on enforced in the next half hour.
Or they could still be out there after lunch tomorrow.
3-4 wickets falling in a day means a draw.
For who?
Bell, for starters!
But it would be worth remembering that Australia aren't the only team that's suffered from collapses recently
Well, I'm listening on TMS....Pietersen's century sounds luke it was well taken. Geoff Boycott is a complete ****.
Geoff Boycott is a complete ****.
And so say all of us
The clarkson of the cricket world
Geoff Boycott is a complete ****.
The clarkson of the cricket world
Disagree entirely. TMS wouldn't be the same without Aggers having a cheeky pop at Boycott every now and again. Obviously he's a bit of a tit who has the occasional outburst, but its never offensive, more often hilarious and he's harmless enough.
Clarkson on the other hand hand is a twonk in jeans, with no real credientials who makes the occasional outrageous and offensive remark about something purely for publicity.
"And men, women, child and chicken stand for Pietersen"
Good knock by KP
Squeeky bum time
edit: just seen snicko on kp - looks like he did just tickle it after all...
Follow-on avoided...
And with that (and the weather forecast for Manchester tomorrow), the Ashes are retained 🙂
And Broad having a decent knock. If we can get to a deficit of sub-100 then at least a draw is on the cards...
and saving the aussies from a 5-0 whitewash 👿 😉
still favour the draw
Will be interesting to see the Aussies go for it then have another bowl - could easily backfire and see them loose though if England bat well
6-slog-dropped
Punchy bogan to open
and off for lunch.... bloody tv signal gone again 🙁 it was working fine last night as we were getting smashed.
Still 1 gone 9 to go, will be interesting to see how high they set the bar (if they have a choice) fingers crossed some of the kamikaze stuff has stopped and there will still be a game on when I get up in the morning.
Aussies having a "moment" 🙂
Houns - Member
I've bought a ticket for MondayEngland shall either have 2 collapses or it'll be a wash out
Needless to say I'm not going tomorrow !
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2638671 ]I think a draw is on the cards ![/url]
How long after they went off did it start pissing down?
Clarke was absolutely spewing and he had a point.
Clarke was absolutely spewing and he had a point.
Rubbish. He would do the same and the light meter doesn't lie, plus if the umpires have difficulty picking up the ball then they check the meter. There will be a set value where if its below then its up to the umpires.
Those are the rules
It was different last time they played here, then the bogans took the light which then set a value for the light to be offered, this came back to bite them on the arse when England later took the light (at the value they set for the match)
They grizzled a bit then too.
This ^
I disagree with the rules, at the point they went off I got the impression that it was playable but substandard, and should have been the batters call as they are the ones in most imminent danger. Then when it genuinely gets dangerous, to fielders and umpires, it becomes umpires decision. But with the rules as they stand, that as soon as it becomes dangerous at all they go off, it was beyond umpire discretion. I can understand why Clarke was spitting on it, but not worth moaning at the umpires.
Some quite spectacular whinging down here this morning 😆
As usual - everyone else's fault (special mention saved for Steward Broad), rather than just accepting that they were a bit shit at Trent Bridge, and a lot shit at Lord's, and that's why it's now very likely that England will retain the ashes at the earliest opportunity.
There was something on this morning where an Aussie accepted that they were a bit poor in 1 & 2 but now back to their best and will make a fight of it to the end....
There was a great clip when warner was asked about hooking one to root...
Whatabout the if we thrash em in the 3rd test we are gonna get **** all in ticket sales for the two final tests theory, otherwise known as lets make it exciting down to the wire for all our fans and internet experts?
Nice try, but try getting a ticket for the riverside or the oval*. They were sold out even before the boat from Australia docked.
* First 3/4 days at least - having seen how big the discrepancy was between the sides, i doubt many were daft enough to buy day 5 tickets
[quote=theotherjonv ]Nice try, but try getting a ticket for the riverside or the oval*. They were sold out even before the boat from Australia docked.
* First 3/4 days at least - having seen how big the discrepancy was between the sides, i doubt many were daft enough to buy day 5 tickets
The only tickets you can get for Sydney in the new year are restricted view or day 5, though I might look again and see if any have been returned.
This is the bit of cricket I don't understand.
So... We have to get all of Aus out then bat to bear their score by the end if the day? Or not?
The only tickets you can get for Sydney in the new year are restricted view or day 5,
You won't get those, I suspect the Aussies will all want them
So... We have to get all of Aus out then bat to bear their score by the end if the day? Or not?
Yes and no...
Option 1) neither side bowls the other out and the match is a draw. As England have already won two matches in the five match series, and if the series is drawn, the holders retain the Ashes, England would retain the Ashes
Option 2) Australia declare or are bowled out, then manage to bowl England out by close of play. Australia win the match and have a sniff of winning the Ashes if they then win at Durham and The Oval
Option 3) Australia declare or are bowled out, then England manage to get more than Australia's lead. England win the match and retain the Ashes.
Basically, to win a match you have to take 20 wickets (or the other team declares, forfeiting however many wickets were left in that innings). If noone's taken 20 wickets in five days, then it's a draw, no matter how on top one of those sides may have been. The reason a captain declares is because he considers his side to have amassed an unassailable lead, and therefore he should be using the time to try to take wickets. This can backfire, as it did against England at Adelaide in 2006, and might just do so to Australia today if we're very lucky. If it did, that would be option 3
Bit of perspective/let's not get overly cocky Zokes surely? From everything I have read this is an awful Aussie side....one of the worst ever....and yet......close match at Trent Bridge if I recall correctly (and we relied on unorthodox 😉 tactics to scrape that one), then we put them to the sword and now they are reversing the compliment albeit not quite to the same degree. So world beaters that we are, we are not exactly pounding this feeble team into submission yet. But as "Walker" Prior said (good on him) a win's a win or I don't care how the urn stays in our dressing room as long as that is where it stays (not so good in him, albeit realistic I suppose).
But even for that we will require nerve or rain today. Lets hope its the former.
Bit of perspective/let's not get overly cocky Zokes surely? From everything I have read this is an awful Aussie side....one of the worst ever....and yet......close match at Trent Bridge if I recall correctly (and we relied on unorthodox tactics to scrape that one),
I'm not being cocky. Australia are an awful side by their standards, and at Trent Bridge, England played poorly by our own standards, yet still won. The margin, just so you know, was more than the difference between when Broad should have walked, and when he was finally out, so it had no bearing on the result.
It was, however, somewhat less than it would have been if Trott hadn't wrongly been given out, and Agar's stumping had been upheld whilst he was on six. Oh, and it might not have been there at all if England hadn't had any reviews left when Haddin [i]didn't[/i] walk at the end.
But, let's not be picky eh?
Will there be any play today?
I love reading the comments on some of the bogan news sites, never seen so much whinging. Always trying to blame something else for the poor state of their cricket, the sports writers are often nearly as bad.
[url= http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/ashes-2013-michael-clarke-fumes-as-umpires-haul-australias-batsmen-off-ground-for-bad-light-20130805-2r849.html ]http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/ashes-2013-michael-clarke-fumes-as-umpires-haul-australias-batsmen-off-ground-for-bad-light-20130805-2r849.html[/url]
This comment made me chuckle:
I think the Australian government should apply the same stall tactics when it comes to processing pom visas in Aus,.
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pomsarecheats
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Somehow I doubt the poster 'pomsarecheats' is an indigenous australian 🙄 are they all thick down there?
will rain all today given what it looks like outside - no play and zero chance - chucking it down and nowt but grey skies
England will retain the ashes, the bogan pugilists will whinge but at the end of the day you don't win an ashes series by only playing well for 2 days out of 15 and not being able to take 20 wickets in a test.
England will retain the ashes, the bogan pugilists will whinge but at the end of the day you don't win an ashes series by only playing well for 2 days out of 15 and not being able to take 20 wickets in a test.
That may be so, but it's still everyone else's (and in particular, Stewart Broad's) fault 😆
And the DRS and the umpires and the doctored pitch* and the cheating English and the weather etc etc.
*what happened to all the talk about the 'funny looking pitch'? All went a bit quiet after they posted a score on it.
1050:
RESUMPTION
It's official - Australia have declared, and play will start at 1130 BST.
Have they put a roof on?
Lets be 100% honest shall we.
The series so far has been spoiled by DRS and its interpretation. England are certainly the better side but there hasn't so far been the gulf in class that so many people expected. England have bowled ok, batted poorly and have a cautious captain. Australia have batted poorly, bowled ok and have a positive leader. Both sides will be disappointed so far, England more so.
It seems fitting that the weather will probably decide this game and the series. It's likely to show decisiveness that England won't and Australia can't.
Ah FFS! Im still in bed!
It was meant to be a wash out
332 to win?
Doable. If the weather holds, that is!
1. Overcast conditions, good for swing
2. A nervous England team that'll aim to bat defensively in the gaps between the rain
3. A fired up Aussie team that'll set an attacking field from the outset
Very possible that England could lose 4 before 50... and then we'll all be praying for the deluge.
Booom!
Quite
'ello 'ello 'ello, what 'av we ere? A jolly good game of cricket, that's what! 😀
Yup, and the radar looks good for some time yet...
[quote=zokes ]Yup, and the radar looks good for some time yet...
not good then
What a waste of a review,might rue that later.
Keep the scorecard ticking over, that's the way.
England can't simply try to block their way out of this IMO.
I'm not too bothered if Australia do win this one - at least it keeps the series alive. Much better to have a result than a washout.
Despite the DRS controversy the first game was a belter.
The Aussie whining is really becoming quite amusing though. Their media and fans seem to be even more one-eyed than an England football fan.
Australians hate losing to us.
They are pretty good at it though.
And that's the 800 up <raises bat>