[Closed] Game of Thrones Season 7

Watch it twice.

I'm not a good actor, I'd need to work on my surprised face.

Is episode 6 quality any good? Or worth waiting for the 'proper' one?

1080p perfect sound so better than Sky.

worth waiting for the 'proper' one?

Worth waiting till Tuesday to talk about it to give the rest of us a chance.

You could watch it on Monday too but anyone who posts spoilers will be in trouble.

Absolutely. Hate spoilers!

Oh my 6 is quite something.

Tormund/Brienne sexy times?

6 been leaked?

HBO released it on the Spanish network but then took it down.

Apparently HBO Nordic did the same thing as well! D'oh.

cool i shall hunt that out later, ta.

It's almost like they want people to talk about it to build up the hype.

Nothing actually happened in the last episode though did it? It was either clearing up after the previous episode or manoeuvering in readiness for the next one.

I'm not sure I can wait! 😳

I know I can't! Fair play to anyone who has the willpower though!!

Is it episode 6 or 6 and 7 spliced togther into one 2hr episode? Hearing mixed reports.

Nothing actually happened in the last episode though did it?

jimjam - Member
Is it episode 6 or 6 and 7 spliced togther into one 2hr episode? Hearing mixed reports.

Is it episode 6 or 6 and 7 spliced togther into one 2hr episode? Hearing mixed reports.

It's 6.

I only watched it as the only chance I have next week might be Saturday but as that's no guaranteed it would probably be sometime the week after probably toward the end of that week.

Sam leaving the Citadel and becoming head of his house

See you all back here Monday night 8)

Edit: lol HBO Spain.

http://mashable.com/2017/08/16/game-of-thrones-leaked-hbo-spain/

1080p perfect sound so better than Sky.

Sky is 1080i not P? Sound the same though?

Anyone else listening in 5.1 find this needs turning up higher than anything else I watch (including BluRay etc). Seems mastered very low.

Sky is 1080i not P

Sky is 1080i not P?

Correct.

Sound the same though?

Seemed flawless.

House Tarly is dead as a dodo!

You know, I think Team Starkgaryan might just be able to pull off resurrecting the family name and granting Sam possession of his pa's old barn.

1080i60 can be converted perfectly to 1080p24

Er, no. Imperfectly, yes.

Hell of a lot to clear up in a couple of episodes though...how many of the crew venturing North are going to return do ya fink? I'm going with three...but apart from JS, who else?

Sky is 1080i not P?
Correct.

But there are 1080p copies about on t'web. Interesting. Is it noticeably better? The picture quality on GoT doesn't seem to be as good as it could be - it's always very dark and you get a bit of banding. I'd assumed the darkness helped them hide the visual effects....

The picture quality on GoT doesn't seem to be as good as it could be

I'm watching on Sky Q and its superb.

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I'd assumed the darkness helped them hide the visual effects....

A lot of the dark scenes are interiors, a huge amount of the exterior shots are enhanced in some way and feature digital elements or composites that 99% of viewers are completely oblivious to.

The leaked episode 6 is fake isn't it? I hope this is just the producers getting revenge on for the last leak, and the real episode 6 airs on Monday as usual. If not then I fear for the remainder of the show.

They've spent an awful lot of money & gone to a lot of effort just for lolz in that case, as it looks pretty authentic! Not that anyone would complain if on Monday they're like, "Naw, this is the [i]real[/i] episode!" as that just means even more GoT!

If not then I fear for the remainder of the show.

Er, no. Imperfectly, yes.

More important for Sky is
a) Adverts. I could never watch anything with adverts interrupting.
b) Bitrate and compression algorithm. They seem to compress more than HBO in the US.
c) Do they tinker with anything. There was a lot of talk about them boosting blacks on the movie channels to look better on many average TVs.

If not then I fear for the remainder of the show.

for what reason?

Haha fair enough!! Not sat down to watch it yet. Hopefully not as bad as all that!

The leaked episode 6 is fake isn't it?

HBO released a fake copy? Well it was a very convincing fake.

But there are 1080p copies about on t'web. Interesting. Is it noticeably better?

Well it course depends on the source but when I've watched the 1080p versions in the past when I was trying to catch up it Sky took the box set down it was better.

I've not noticed banding in sky in the dark scenes that usually comes down to if your TV.

how many of the crew venturing North are going to return do ya fink? I'm going with three...but apart from JS, who else?

JS, the hound and ginger - hes got a big woman to please ....

rmacattack - Member
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FFS I hope that's a windup. NO SPOILERS!

cracking episode. things are getting proper mental

quality! 🙂

Quiet you lot - not till Monday!

Was the sound not bobbins? I tried but didnt get past the credits , twas like a biscuit tin audio.

There's several copies out. The best audio is in the one just over 2GB. Has passable 2.0 AAC.

...a friend told me.

Main issues is jerky motion, maybe due to the conversion process/source.

...he added.

The version I watched was perfect.

Crikey. That was a surprise.

yip mine too, picture not full 1080p but nearly, contrast a touch off but not bad, audio fine.

The version I watched was perfect.

Or your eyes are knackered?

Probably the Samsung telly struggling with .flv container tho, as seems ok on laptop.

Come on folks don't even give hints.

Great episode 🙂

Dallas was a hint?

The Debbie part was.

Think I'm going to avoid this thread until Tuesday!

That was my plan, but I just gave in. Now I don't have to peek at the internet through my fingers for 4/5 days in case of spoilers on social media, here, reddit etc.

Plus the copy not being bobbins helped.

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b) Bitrate and compression algorithm. They seem to compress more than HBO in the US.

Sky's HD bitrate is usually goshawful, unless you're on the film and premium sport channels which have fairly reasonable bitrates. Some of the channels (news) have bitrate so low it is hardly worth the HD tag.

If it's a film-based source (which GoT is), then any reasonable modern deinterlacer should detect it as such and do reverse 3:2 pulldown with absolutely no difference between 1080i60 and 1080p24

I stand corrected.

Crikey. That was a surprise.

Nah, when that thing happened with wotshisname, I thought "well this isn't going to end well" and it didn't.

Sky's HD bitrate is usually goshawful, unless you're on the film and premium sport channels which have fairly reasonable bitrates. Some of the channels (news) have bitrate so low it is hardly worth the HD tag.

Bitrate for Atlantic HD is pretty good
http://en.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?mux=12148&pid=4901&live=69&sec=0&lang=en
min:2 average: 7.5 max: 19.9

That compares to BBC1 1.1 4.4 14.2

They're variable so will depend on the demands of other stuff on the same mux that's playing at the same time but that's a good allocation. Still depends on the quality and settings of the encoders (athough those should be optimised by now and Sky should be able to get it right).

Saying that, lipsync on Ch4+1 has been terrible for me for years and it's just that channel so can't be solved with the delay settings or down to my equipment.

Sky is 1080i not P?

Correct.

Sky Q is 1080p (HD). Picture quality seems as it should be, but there have been some reports of sound issues on Sky Altantic that have backed up what I have noticed - the 'level' does seem low, and there were occasional sound glitches in the last episode. The glitches don't repeat when rewound and played back though which suggests that it could be a 'on demand/streaming' issue. No idea why that would be specific to Sky Atlantic though. It might simply be that I don't use 'on demand' enough to notice, more likely to download.

Sky Q is 1080p (HD).

It's not the box but the broadcast or internet stream that we care about. You set the output of the box to the best quality your TV can deal with. The box will then either pass through the stream unchanged or downconvert at the box if it needs to.

As someone has said above 1080i/60 is 60 half frames per second/effectively 30 full frames. 1080p/

It's not the box but the broadcast or internet stream that we care about. You set the output of the box to the best quality your TV can deal with. The box will then either pass through the stream unchanged or downconvert at the box if it needs to.

As someone has said above 1080i/60 is 60 half frames per second/effectively 30 full frames. 1080p/

Sure, not debating that, but someone above asked if 'Sky' was 1080i or 1080p. It was not clear if they were being specific about GOT on Sky, or the general capability of Sky/Sky Q. I guess we have covered both options now.

It's not the box but the broadcast or internet stream that we care about

Is that the royal 'we'? 🙂

Bitrate for Atlantic HD is pretty good
http://en.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?mux=12148&pid=4901&live=69&sec=0&lang=en
min:2 average: 7.5 max: 19.9

That link shows 4.2 as the max for atlantic, compared to about 7 for sky sports, which is around the ratios I remember. By the looks of it that's on astra 2f, and astra 2e is now up and running, with the higher bitrates.

I stopped being familiar with this stuff around the time the 2E went up...

I wish I hadn't watched the episode now. So much to discuss.....but....can't...arrrghhh.

😀

That link shows 4.2 as the max for atlantic, compared to about 7 for sky sports, which is around the ratios I remember. By the looks of it that's on astra 2f, and astra 2e is now up and running, with the higher bitrates.

Sorry - looks like i posted the wrong link as i had two tabs open. That's the SD channel. The numbers i put (max 19.9) are the HD channel. on that site somewhere.

I wish I hadn't watched the episode now. So much to discuss.....but....can't...arrrghhh.

That was good 😀

SHOCKED FACE

I cheated !

Quite amusing watching all these predictions pop up on my news feeds. Aye like they've no sat and watched the leaked version! 😆

Well it is also rather predictable has been for 2 or 3 seasons at least.

colour me sceptical! 😆

I''m sure for some you're probably right though.

I watched a 1080p download of e06 on my projector and the picture was very good. The sound was only 2.0 rather than the usual 5.1 you get on decent downloads.

Although we've got Sky, I've actually been downloading all the episodes in HD on a Monday morning and watching them on Monday night in our cinema room. The picture is better, there are no adverts and my SkyQ box is only in the living room. I can phsically relocate it to use on the PJ but it's a lot more hassle.

On season 7, although it's great, I can't help but feel they're trying to pack in too much into every episode. Also, they keep on sticking in bits where someone magically pops up to rescue someone else i.e. Bronn saving Jaime from the fire breath. Furthermore, characters or even whole armies seem to cross Westeros with ease and magically appear in the right place at the right time. This starkly contrasts with all the tortuous journeys undertaken in seasons 1-6.

Whilst the first 6 seasons were based on books (although book 6 still hasn't been released yet has it?) this is only based on a framework devised by George RR Martin AFAIK.

I can't help feeling this story would be better told over more episodes - at least 10.

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So it's Bran who has been leaking them?

Cracked also as I'm going to be travelling until it's on. Blimey what a cracker 😉 didn't expect Dr who in there

So it's Bran who has been leaking them?

Nah, he's too full of moral fibre to do something flakey like leak episodes.

As soon as I saw Gendry's war hammer in episode 6 I thought Matt Easton's gonna have a field day with this 😉

Nah, he's too full of moral fibre to do something flakey like leak episodes.

I disagree. I think it's all Bran. He's a serial spoiler.

I hadn't realised that an overview of every episode of this season had been leaked at the begining of the season.

Just watched it on HBO in Canada so as far as I'm concerned it's time for discussion.

Fantastic.

More miraculous rescues though....

Yeah, hands up who went they are going to need a dragon to get out of this one...
Loved the hound lobbing rocks and then it falling short
Arya scares me a bit
Little finger is still playing the game
The bit where Danny gets to see that Jon has taken sever knives to the heart kind of moves that along and they will have a very strong alliance with 3 heirs to the iron throne in the mix.

Though quite what you do about an dead dragon is another story, kind of hoped Danny and Jon would have taken a ride to Winterfell on the Dragon just to sort the northern stuff out a bit.