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A wee bit confused.
What's Johns (or whatever he is called) relationship to Daenerys?
Nephew. His father is Daenerys' brother
Oh it's all kicking off!
18 month wait though, well maybe - Jamie (or the dude who plays him) says they start filming in Oct/Nov and it's typically 4 months filming and 4 months post so it could easily be back for Sept '18.
I was disappointed that John and Dany didn't find out John's true identity . The look on her face would have been a good way to end the season.
There could be trouble ahead.....
great episode, wee bit annoying that it's finished at that and we have to wait for season 7b though!
Disappointed..season 7 has replaced the trademark gratuitous use of cruel and unusual acts of viloence with cgi dragons.
In the parlee for instance a couple of lesser characters really should have been torn apart or allowed to be killed be the zombie thing anything really it just has to be ott.
I'm struggling to work out why they'd bother taking Theon to the meeting?
he'll still have a claim in the iron islands if his sister croaks it, so I'd guess that's why.legend - Member
I'm struggling to work out why they'd bother taking Theon to the meeting?
Not enough squirming from little finger. Honestly chaps you've been building that one the whole series, it deserves a bit more.
Wall fell down mighty easy. Makes me wonder what exactly were they going to do if they hadn't got the dragon.
Kings landing scenes were superb.
Trump wants to hope that Mexico doesn't have Dragons.
😆 haha!
legend - Member
I'm struggling to work out why they'd bother taking Theon to the meeting?
Main character, needed to know about his sister...
Also if they topple Euron and his magic fleet then he is back in play.
Also, totally called it (in my head!) how the Theon/Euron fight was going to end
Is this what they call on the internet, an 'epic fail'?
The lone captive wight, in the bright sunlight of kings landing was the series highlight for me. just looked incredible and was genuinely scary!!
Hound and Brienne's proud parent scene about Arya!
loved the littlefinger scene too, thought he squirmed enough. he tried several tactics; i loved your mother, lets speak alone, to finally begging for mercy on his knees! was punching the air!!
but there were negatives, i hate Theon, i stopped caring about what happens to him ages ago but when he starting smirking at being kneed in the bollocks.. i wanted him dead!! in fact theres no way all those main characters should have survived that episode! at least one of the lannisters should have copped a belly full of sword!
wasnt convinced when the wall came tumbling down either...
The one thing that used to set GoT aside from other shows/books is the glee in which it dispensed main characters. It seemed no one was safe, so you always had an uneasy sense that at any minute your fav character could cop it. Ned, most starks at red wedding, Joffers etc.
That's now gone. At no point did I think Tyrion or Jaimie were going to die. I know Baylish died, but his card has been marked for a long time.
Again, I enjoyed it but there now seeks to be a safety net firmly in place.
Tyrion's perving scene was a bit odd but maybe he knew and was like "I really should say something.....but it sounds like they're having such a good time, what do I do?"
The way I see it the White Walkers will march (slowly) due south and Snow and co will end up back at the bit of the wall formerly known as Eas****ch once the WW have passed, everone at Winterfell is either dead or will run south which would be fine for Arya. Things will culminate with a White Walker sandwich battle royale to the death.
 now seeks to be a safety net firmly in place.
Until next season, anyway...
I'd like to have seen more anger from Littlefinger once he realised that the game was up. He's basically a bullied kid with a huge chip on his shoulder.
Oh won't someone please think of Tormund!
He's (oddly after running down stairs for an age I thought) still atop the wall when it falls - is he still alive? He's been the character of the series for me.
The one thing that used to set GoT aside from other shows/books is the glee in which it dispensed main characters. It seemed no one was safe, so you always had an uneasy sense that at any minute your fav character could cop it. Ned, most starks at red wedding, Joffers etc.That's now gone.
Dorne gone, highgarden gone, Bealish gone .... hardly minor characters over the years.
But you still need characters to play out the ending ... cant kill them all off before that time. I think a few are still to go as part of the battles in the finale series.
A couple of things are bothering me about the destruction of the Wall.
First, what about all the magic spells which prevent the dead from passing south of the Wall?
It wasn't that long ago that Benjen Stark was invited through the gate but couldn't, and went to great pains to explain that it was because of the magic spells, that the Wall wasn't just a physical barrier.
Second..... Presumably the Ice dragon was shooting out some kind of cold blast rather than fire?
I'd have thought that blasting a 700 foot tall wall of ice, with more ice would only make it, well, icier?
My guess is with the wall destroyed the spell no longer exists.
The dragon was firing out blue fire as Wights like blue.
For a moment I thought it might be ice and the sea freezing was going to be the way around.
schrickvr6 - MemberTyrion's perving scene was a bit odd but maybe he knew and was like "I really should say something.....but it sounds like they're having such a good time, what do I do?"
Well he was concerned about Danaerys' successor apparently, so he's doing that wise monkey thing from Lion King. That's how I took it anyway. He's probably frustrated as **** as there seems to be a severe lack of whores in his life now.
perchypanther - MemberA couple of things are bothering me about the destruction of the Wall.
First, what about all the magic spells which prevent the dead from passing south of the Wall?
It wasn't that long ago that Benjen Stark was invited through the gate but couldn't, and went to great pains to explain that it was because of the magic spells, that the Wall wasn't just a physical barrier.Second..... Presumably the Ice dragon was shooting out some kind of cold blast rather than fire?
I'd have thought that blasting a 700 foot tall wall of ice, with more ice would only make it, well, icier?
Well (show logic) dragons are magical beings. This was established 100%. So guessing dragonbreath / flames are more than just fire. From the rescue mission north of the wall it explodes ice on contact so it's probably some kind of magical napalm/thermite plot weapon.
Fully agree Jamie.
I was even hoping Cersei would get The Mountain to off Tyrion, just to shake things up a bit.
Also disappointed Theon didn't die on the beach.
What kind of monster have I become?
Though with the Dothraki (Bit cold is lads, could hang coats on them mate) and Unsullied (cold enough that your balls will fall off) there are going to at least be some laughs along the way when they all get North.
I can see Bron (2 castles you say) heading North very soon once he see's whats going on. Having brought us the citadel is that going to be it or will Jim Broadbent get busy down there now news of the trouble up north is confirmed.
We also have Ellaria Sand in a dungeon somewhere getting more bitter by the day.
Dorne gone
Nobody cares about Dorne. I miss that wilding who got taken out by the zombie polar bear more.
where was Gendry this week?
I miss that wilding who got taken out by the zombie polar bear more
Nah, he was an annoying dick.
I miss the polar bear. He had a certain panache
where was Gendry this week?
Still runnin'
Just chilling with his bro Bron.
That was little Gendry AKA Pod, think Gendry was waiting cold on the boat for a special visitor. Or trying to get his hammer back
Oh won't someone please think of Tormund!
My rule of thumb is - unless I see someone die on screen, they're not dead (just forgotten).
Olenna (??) (highgarden) - not dead, she was prepared with some antidote.
Dorne woman - not dead, just chilling out in the dungeons ready to get her revenge.
Tormund - surely he's got a role to play later with a defiant last stand with Lady Brienne.
Honestly thought Tyrion was going to get the chop though.
Jaime is still needed to stab Cersei in the back.
Jaime is still needed to stab Cersei in the back.
GoT to wait for her to have his baby first I guess.
On a sidenote, I didn't realise Rose Leslie (Ygritte) was Kit Harrington's (Jon Snow....no not that one) partner in real life.
RE: Tyrion's perving scene
There's a theory, now I read this on UniLadBibleLadsLadsLadsBuzzMixReadit or some such but it's that Tyrion has betrayed Danny to his Sister. He fears she'll become the Mad Queen and worse than Cersei hence why all the talk of successors.
He plans or expects Danny and Cersei to die and John Snow to take the Iron Throne (well after that sort out the White Walkers).
John and Danny 'hooking up' spoils his plans as it means they'll probably stick together.
I have to give a big shout out to Cersi's vicious snear these last few eps btw, starting wirh her first look at ellari as she got dragged in, stepped up a notch last night, if looks could kill, it's bloody awesome! pure evil!
dup.
Cersei is in the DUP? She is a maniacal inbreeding tyrant. Makes sense I guess. If we can just establish that she hates the gays and doesn't believe in science she'll go far.
Liked the stuff to the end where as they say first time they have had everyone in one place, and how much fun after the hard work the dragon pit stuff was.
weird hearing some of them speak in their native accent, particularly tyrion!
I hate myself for watching the behind the senses stuff as it breaks the magic.
I do like the idea they all got pissed up in the hotel though, hopefully still in costume
On a sidenote, I didn't realise Rose Leslie (Ygritte) was Kit Harrington's (Jon Snow....no not that one) partner in real life.
I did. The lucky, lucky b@stard 👿
Managed to avoid any spoilers and just watched it.
Great twist after bringing Arya in for trial, didn't see that coming! Apart from that it was pretty disappointing tbh....enjoyable, but disappointing!
Whilst I liked the whole LF scene and thought it was done well I still don't think it excuses the clunky build up though, you can't spend 7 series developing the two sisters from the naive girls that left Winterfell in S1 to have us believe LF has them wrapped around his well LF so much they fall for something so blatant.
Jaime should have been cut in half by the Mountain to, I guess he must be needed in the final season but kinda disappointed they didn't kill off at least one major character.
The whole "lets just blow up the wall thing" could have used some more explanation for people that actually remember it's a magical wall not just a big wall of ice. Assuming it is Bran's fault then a scene with him beginning to realise he's screwed everyone (potentially) would have been nice, he's a bit too smug these days. I guess it will come in the opening episode next season as he was watching but still thought they should have squeezed it in this episode.
As for the Tyrion loitering thing, not sure if it's because he has his own feelings towards Daenerys or if it's just him realising he won't have the same influence going forward if they get together (at least until someone tells them the bad news :p ).
Great twist after bringing Arya in for trial, didn't see that coming!
I did see that coming, they were literally winking at each other for the lead up to the big reveal.
...and I know that makes me sound like a know-it-all, but that's genuinely how I saw it.
I did see that coming, they were literally winking at each other for the lead up to the big reveal.
I was eating my spag boll at the time, so may have looked away at the crucial moments! 😳
Fuzzywuzzy is right though...thought it myself, what a waste of a plot line deceiving the viewer into believing the sisters were at each others throats and not showing how they were actually communicating to take out LF.
Also...What age is Dani's brother supposed to have been to be Jon Snows father? Does that make sense? I assume that Jon and Dani are the same age?
Ah. The 'ol spag Bol excuse. 8)
Supposedly in season 1, Jon Snow is supposed to be 19-ish and Dani 17-ish. Their ages in the books are significantly younger but most characters seemed to get a boost to avoid having to cast children to work in quite unpleasant scenes (even for adults).
Supposedly in season 1, Jon Snow is supposed to be 19-ish and Dani 17-ish.
so how old was her bruv supposed to be? 😕
I'm having trouble with the age thing too. The bloke who got 'crowned' by the Dothraki in season 1 or 2, (can't quite remember) wasn't massively older than Dani as I recall.
He was a throbber who deserved all he got though.
It was another older brother not the one Droggo killed.
Aah, right. Makes sense now. Ta.
He was a throbber who deserved all he got though.
He wanted a gold crown and he got one .
It was another older brother not the one Droggo killed.
Heyyyyy....that's not how Bran saw it, it was the Bruv who got melted by Drogo!
Nope.
Same wig (allegedly), different Targeryan
Really???
I need to watch it again!
I am closer in age to my nephew than I am to his mum, my sister, so not such a stretch.
He's (oddly after running down stairs for an age I thought) still atop the wall when it falls - is he still alive? He's been the character of the series for me.
I suspect he'll come back, go and see Cersei, kill her and then be revealed as Arya.
My wife was arguing with me that it was the same actor / character marrying Lyanna Stark in the flashback as the guy who played Viserys. They do look very similar but it bloody undid all of the "Danaerys is not his sister" explanation we've had each episode for the last two seasons.
The Targs love a bit of in-breeding. Their mum & dad were brother & sister which is why I guess they've made all the characters look very similar.
It also somehow explains how they have silver hair.
Yeah I thought the actor portraying Rhaeger was a bit too similar looking to Viserys - sure they had to give him the "Targaryen look" but no need to add confusion by being his doppelganger.
Very nice fan made video of the Jon Snow parentage hints and related clips through the series.
Still enjoying this although the fast pace still feels like a different show to the early seasons.
It could have done with a scene where something happened that didn't move the plot but did tell you something about the characters. Bronn and Tyrion getting drunk in a brothel, or maybe Tyrion deciding not to when Bronn invited him. Just an idea, but I like those scenes just as much as the plot-driven ones.
Still don't understand the decision to cap it at 8 seasons.
You have to end it eventually before people get bored. Last series was a bit crap and one more bad series would kill it off... best to go out on your own terms.
Still don't understand the decision to cap it at 8 seasons.
The story is at it's end, we could contrive another set of battles, fights or long walks in the snow but it's time.
One scene that still sticks out like a sore thumb was the Ed Sherran campfire scene. It seems it really was nothing more than a ES publicity stunt that added nothing to the story.
Why would such a massive organization as GOT demean an episode like that?
I disagree, whilst it certainly didnt need Ed it showed that Aya still had a heart and a sense of justice rather than being a stone cold killer which is why she turned back from going to kill Cersei and went home. That would have been an odd choice without the character development.
Theres plenty of scope for spin off series -
Bronn & Tyrions guide to brothels ....
yeah for me when she arrived she was ready to kill them all if needed, or just because. It humanised the war for her.
Assuming it is Bran's fault then a scene with him beginning to realise he's screwed everyone
Ahh, but it's preordained destiny.There's something deeper at work and the fate of the universe depends on the Night King getting through the wall to set things back to normal. Bran has no free-will in all this, he's just a messenger boy.
he's just a messenger boy.
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