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Stannis? Tall bird killed him though we didn't see the actual death.
The rest will come out.
Yeah, she touched Snows face, maybe she imparted a load of her power into him, or summink.
Where's Rickon? will he have any role at all?
Who was Jon Snow's mother? (a Targaryen??? that'd be cool)
Will Bran be able to warg into a dragon? as well as talk through the heart trees.
What's become of Stannis?
How will the white walkers get across the sea?
Will wal de frey get retribution for the red wedding?
What happened to Edmure Tully and Caitlin's uncle, the Blackfish?
Is Sandor Clegane (the hound) dead?
I spent most of last night episode trying to remember who was who and what happened last year, I never remember any of their names and so many of them have merged into one in my head - I seem to remember Sean Bean had 4 sons (3 legit and one bastard) and they all seem to be dead now.
What happened to Bronn? I liked him, is he dead or alive?
I know Hordor is supposedly back this year and I think the Lad who can't walk might be another Sean Bean Son, but maybe not.
And supposedly 2-3 years ago a major-ish character was last seen rowing a small boat and hasn't been seen since, but I have zero memory of this.
I love the show, but I'm usually completely lost through most of it, only remember who they were or why they're doing what they're doing just as the scene changes and I'm back to square one trying to remember who is who at Castle Black.
Still, Tits and Dragons, what's not to like.
I seem to remember Sean Bean had 4 sons (3 legit and one bastard) and they all seem to be dead now.
out of Ned Stark's sons only 2 are dead. Robb and Jon Snow.
I think the Lad who can't walk might be another Sean Bean Son, but maybe not.
That would be Bran, he is indeed one of the Stark boys. He is alive and in the north learning how to talk to the trees
What happened to Bronn? I liked him, is he dead or alive?
He went to Dorne with Jaime to retrieve Marcella and helped jaime to learn to fight with his left hand. He returned to Kings landing with Jaime although he hasn't been seen yet.
@ jekkyl - thanks, that really helps.
The 4th Stark Lad - would that be Reek?
@P-jay - I understand there are a range of explanatory pamphlets which explain all this. Quite comprehensive apparently. A Song of Ice and Fire, I think they're called. 😉
I think it was George Martin (off of the Beatles?) that wrote them or summink.
neds boys in order of birth.
Robb Stark
Jon Snow
Brandon Stark (Bran)
Rickon Stark
Reek / Theon Greyjoy is not one of Ned's Kids. He was made a ward of Ned Stark because his father (Balon Greyjoy) fought against Robert Baratheon in the war where Baratheon overthrew the mad king Targaryen. Keeping Greyjoy's eldest son (his heir) is a way of keeping Balon in line and not rebel further.
I reckon the girl knocking Arya about is actually Jaqen H'ghar starting to train her up again.
Do you mean physically or metaphorically? I thought all three of them were in the same room at one point in the last series?
I did mean physically, although you've got me re-thinking that one. Did the blonde girl not get killed though. I'm struggling to remember that one, I may have to re-watch the last couple of episodes of season 5.
Robb Stark
Jon Snow
Brandon Stark (Bran)
Rickon Stark
There's also a chance that Jon Snow isn't actually Ned's Son, it's been hinted at that it would be out of character for Ned to have fathered a son outside of his marriage.
love your thinkin MW, it would have to have been a HUGE reason/friendship for Ned to take Jon on and declare his unfaithfulness to his wife. Although if it were true it might support the theory that Jon is a Targaryen, except that he doesn't have the blonde hair.
I have a suspicion that Melisandre has to revert to "old" in order to resurrect the dead. Hence why she didn't suddenly turn old in season 4 when she took the necklace off. I doubt taking the necklace off equals instant transformation to old hag.
I have an alternative theory that she wasn't old in the first place.
The Red God has shown her that Jon Snow must live at all costs.
She's seen his dead body, brooded on it for a bit then she has used magic( or whatever) to sacrifice her own life to give it to Jon Snow. The gem in the necklace is a temporary container to transfer her life force to Jon Snow.
Maybe.
Maybe not.
Looking forward to finding out though.
Although if it were true it might support the theory that Jon is a Targaryen, except that he doesn't have the blonde hair.
It's been explicity stated in the books that Jon Snow has the dark hair and grey eyes of a Stark.
Just doesn't specify which Stark. 😉
Looking forward to finding out though.
Only 153 hours, or 9180 minutes, or just over half a million seconds to wait......
Okay PP, which other Stark might you presume it would be but Ned?
I read the books too and I'm sure Ned's brother (brandon?) was dead long before before, because Caitlin was pledged to him, as the elder Stark.
Not all Starks are men.
Google R+L=J
Okay PP, which other Stark might you presume it would be but Ned?
Jon coud be Ned's sister's child. That would give the motivation for Ned to adopt the child and bring it up as his own. We know that Ned was regarded as an honourable man by just about everyone but also that he'd be willing to call his own integrity into question for the sake of his family as he did at his own beheading.
The Internet Expert theory is that Jon Snow is the child of Lyanna Stark & Rhaegar Targaryen. Rhaegar was killed in the war between Robert & the mad king, and Lyanna killed in childbirth. Edward Stark raised the child as his Bastard to conceal the true identity. Or something like that.
love it, that fits.
So.... the ending? Jon riding one dragon and his Aunty riding another, with the wilding army at their back combined with the Seven suns and the Unsullied against the combined houses of Lannister, Greyjoy, Bolton and Martell.
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Damn - and I thought I would be spoiler-proof as I've seen all the episodes and there are no books 🙁
I thought the ending would probably be everyone that's left uniting to fight the white walkers and the zombie army from beyond the wall. I hope there's more to it than that but it seems to be heading towards the dragons being required to defeat the undead. The dragons are set up as being uncontrollable which I guess is where Brandons abilities will be important.
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Riding the dragons into battle is a nice image too and one that mirrors the books read by Stannis Baratheon's daughter. But 3 dragons require 3 riders which should mean that there is another Targaryen (or half Targaryen) lurking about in plain sight.
Damn - and I thought I would be spoiler-proof as I've seen all the episodes and there are no books
Speculation isn't spoilers, I doubt whether anybody on here actually knows anything for sure. George Martin doesn't look like the bike riding type.
@PercyPanther - I'm aware there are some written guides to the series, but I've got an attention span of about.... Oh look, a bird!
Or the book writing type!!
I thought the ending would probably be everyone that's left uniting to fight the white walkers and the zombie army from beyond the wall. I hope there's more to it than that but it seems to be heading towards the dragons being required to defeat the undead. The dragons are set up as being uncontrollable which I guess is where Brandons abilities will be important.
That would be plausible, Tommen doesn't seem like the bad king type and now Tywin's dead and Jaime's found humility there's one nasty Lannister left and her power is very much diminished.
Riding the dragons into battle is a nice image too and one that mirrors the books read by Stannis Baratheon's daughter. But 3 dragons require 3 riders which should mean that there is another Targaryen (or half Targaryen) lurking about in plain sight.
Perhaps one dies or one isn't ridden. Although I like your idea of another Targaryen. Who is left with questionable parentage?
Where's Rickon? will he have any role at all? [b]Would have thought so, didn't he just go off with that lass?
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Who was Jon Snow's mother? (a Targaryen??? that'd be cool[b]) See above, Ned's sister. Also, what happened to Roberts b'stard?
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Will Bran be able to warg into a dragon? as well as talk through the heart trees. [b]Expect so.[/b]
What's become of Stannis? [b]Dead, confirmed by the Bolton's last night.[/b]
How will the white walkers get across the sea? [b]Boats!
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Will wal de frey get retribution for the red wedding? [b]Thought he already had or am I getting mixed up?
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What happened to Edmure Tully and Caitlin's uncle, the Blackfish?
Is Sandor Clegane (the hound) dead? [b]Not sure.[/b]
Jon, Daenerys & Bran on the dragons?
Perhaps one dies or one isn't ridden. Although I like your idea of another Targaryen. Who is left with questionable parentage?
There's probably a few options as almost anyones Father might not be who they're said to be. It's a long shot though, just pure speculation.
Who is left with questionable parentage?
You're no son of mine!
You're no son of mine!
I'm thinking along the same lines, and based on the season 6 trailer I'd even hazard a guess on how he finds out but I thought it was too big of a thing to start throwing around.
are you talking about Theon?
he's too measley to be a Targaryen.
Nope, not Theon.
Wasn't that Tywin to Tyrion? His response was "I am your son!!"
Brienne is blonde with a possible link to the Targaryen's through Dunk
Anything that causes the show to have more Brienne in it can only be a good thing.
Me and the wife are watching the previous episodes before watching the latest season, we're gonna let them build up a bit. Anyway, we just watched s03e09 .... the red weddding. In that episode Rickon goes off with the wilding woman to the domain of house Umber. I had forgotten what happened to him so there you go, whether he plays any part in the great tale I doubt it. Also in this episode Caitlin gets murdered *possible spolier alert* .. in the book they dump her body in the river and then the Brotherhood (of the lord of light) find her and bring her back to life where she appears as a cloaked woman. This hasn't happened yet in the TV series (it may not) Also to answer some of my own previous questions the Blackfish (Caitlin's uncle) goes off for a piss in the middle of the red wedding before they all get murdered so he either escaped accidently or he knows what was about to happen. I doubt he would acquiesce to the killing of his kin so he is still out there. In the books he is formidable warrior who escapes by swimming under the fence when Jaime comes to sack river run.
What a great show, I think perhaps the best there has ever been.
Can a mod put *spoilers* in the title.
Don't want to ruin that for anybody.
Hell yeah, game on 🙂
So how do we discuss that without any spoiler dropping?
Carefully
😯
I'll be revisiting here after 10pm 😀
Oof! Life and death in that episode 😯
Back in the room .
Puny man of the night's watch.
Big episode for Hodor too.
Excellent stuff! A lot of ground covered in that one!
It always bothers me when an episode starts without the full gamut of warnings, but that was a good one.
Well are we talking about it yet?
Hell of an episode, definatley don't add this to facebook unless you are watching on the day
I hope little Ramsey follows up with his plan re: Day trip north
Possibly found our 3rd dragon rider this week too
and crossover of the week
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so here is my thoughts :
tyrion is bastard son of mad king+ lannister wife ( tywin himself spoke about mad kings hobby of f*** wifes of lords IIRC) so Tyrion is half targaryen and possibly even immune to fire as dragons let him alive.
jon snow is son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar. the fact that we see flashbacks of Stark family only makes it even clearer ( young Ned etc.)
Rickon was meant to go to house of Umber ( right?) but Umbers now on side of Boltons hence the gift reference in preview for next episode - Rickon being the gift to Bolton bastard possibly.
will we see a fight of boltons hounds vs direwolfs one day?
Jon Snow most likely is Azor Ahai reincarnated. Will be very interesting if his acting remains the same as being Jon Snow as we know him , or acting as completely new character.
Azor Ahai is a Westeros hero who is supposedly destined to be reborn and rescue the Seven Kingdoms from their days of darkness.
Ramsey Bolten is no Joffrey (the lack of theatrics) but I'm starting to like his management approach, nice and direct.
melisandre is 400 years old and it was her sole purpose to find new Azor Ahai. ironically she found him when she gave up.
No boobs, 2/10 crap episode
For one episode, it certainly moved on a lot of plot lines!! Now where are the White Walkers!!!!
It was a bit easy though wasn't it
"can you do it?"
"dunno"
clean him up a bit
mutter a few words
Done
I expected sacrifice(s), pain, etc
Isn't that party of the point? She didn't think she could do it because all her prophecy shit isn't coming true, so she has substantial self doubt. So she mutters the incantations without any conviction, goes off in a huff, and raises the dead anyway.
When she finds out how powerful she is - then the fun'll start.
I also like something picked up on Mel Gied- I give up, it's a lot in scrabble -'s show afterwards. The vow of the Night's Watch is to stay until your death. i guess he's now free to go seeing as he technically died, and stake a claim to what's rightfully his, etc. And also maybe do some jiggy as well.
Awesome episode - unexpected deaths, evil priests, the Lannisters reforming, violence from the mountain, return of Hodor
And more one liners from the imp - I drink and I know things.
swavis - Member
I reckon the girl knocking Arya about is actually Jaqen H'ghar starting to train her up again
Wasn't far off it there I reckon 😉
Brilliant episode last night, Ramsey really is turning into the nastiest of bad guys, hopefully he'll meet a suitably horrible end, but not for a while yet. I kind of hope Reek gets his revenge but this being Game of Thrones don't hold out much hope 😈
Willis!
Willis, Willis......Willis!! 😀
Watcha' not talking 'bout Hodor?
It's not the Mountain is it, it's the beast built by the maister in the crypt isn't it?
It's not the Mountain is it, it's the beast built by the maister in the crypt isn't it?
....and what (or, more accurately, who?) did he build it out of?
Sky Atlantic had been showing the new episodes at 0200 on sun night, the same time as in the US - good to record, then watch on the Monday at the same time as the main programme, without the adverts.
Sky Atlantic had been showing the new episodes at 0200 on sun night, the same time as in the US - good to record, then watch on the Monday at the same time as the main programme, without the adverts.
It's available on demand hours before the UK broadcast time, just stream it. Also doesn't have adverts.
perchypanther - Member
It's not the Mountain is it, it's the beast built by the maister in the crypt isn't it?
....and what (or, more accurately, who?) did he build it out of?
Plus Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson is in the credits
Possibly overthinking.
Funny how the dog was sleeping and then stirred just before Jon Snow woke up. Same when Bran fell out of the tower, his dog slept nearby.
Can't help wondering if this warging business has more than has been hinted at so far.
Good series so far, new stuff is taking away the need to worry about the lack of the next book too.
I'd say more likely the the dogs just felt the jolt in their masters consciousness, but this is GoT, so who knows!!!
One thing I've not seen mentioned yet is the High Sparrow and his crew. I thought Jaime was going to end up in the clink too after his confessions but they just withdrew back into the shadows. I reckon they'll be dealt with by the mountain within the next few episodes.
And why was Margaery thrown in jail in the previous season , we couldn't remember that one 😕
Whats happend to Brans wolf?
Rickon had his last time we saw.
Jon has his
Sansa's got the chop
Arya's ran off
King of the north fellas got the chop
Whats happend to Brans wolf?
Why is Bran now 28 years old 😆
And why was Margaery thrown in jail in the previous season , we couldn't remember that one
Brother & ex-husband relationship
Ahh that's right, Cersei tried to set her up but it back-fired a bit 😆
brans wolf was semi wild, running in the woods near to where they were when they were travelling north.
I think Margaery is also accused of knowing about her brother's gay relationship and covering up/helping.
Have you not watched last nights episode et? There was a stand off at the funeral of the daughter that Jamie failed to rescue. Looks like the Lanisters are going to have to do something about them.One thing I've not seen mentioned yet is the High Sparrow and his crew. I thought Jaime was going to end up in the clink too after his confessions but they just withdrew back into the shadows. I reckon they'll be dealt with by the mountain within the next few episodes.
IIRC, Margery is still in kink because she won't condemn her gay brother.
I think Margaery is also accused of knowing about her brother's gay relationship and covering up/helping.
Yep. She's basically banged up for perjury.
And why was Margaery thrown in jail in the previous season
For being in possession of the sexiest smirk in the Seven Kingdoms?
Have you not watched last nights episode et? There was a stand off at the funeral of the daughter that Jamie failed to rescue.
That's exactly the scene I meant, Jaime seemed to be talking himself into trouble by admitting the people he'd killed, starting with his King.
Have you not watched last nights episode et? There was a stand off at the funeral of the daughter that Jamie failed to rescue. Looks like the Lanisters are going to have to do something about them.
The problem for the Lannisters is violence will play into the hands of the High Sparrow and with the loss of Verys, Tyrion and Little Finger (He's still on side but seems absent from day to day running of Kings Landing) they've lost all the 'smarts' from the small council.