[Closed] Gaddafi ducked?

"He's been taken away by ambulance."

they missed the next line..

"to be shot some more" 😉

Can't say I'm upset about it.
Quite funny that they've sent him to hospital; presumably so that he can be in good health when they hang him.

At last some good news this week.

Who's next then?
Don't the politicians need an axis of evil to keep us in our places?

Who's next then?

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And he'll burn the World down with him.

reports saying hes died/ not catured/ ,shot in the legs?

Im sure hell be found dead, then buried at see before any one sees the body?

but thats the price you pay for being in charge of the worlds 9th biggest oil producer.

And he'll burn the World down with him.

Don't see how the 14th most important man in Iran who incidently has no control over what nuclear assets the Iranians have is going to burn the world down with him.

I'm not taking into account what the potential involvement the Israelis may have in this end of the world scenario however.

Sounds like hes dead. I wouldn't mind some of his hats. He appeared to have a quite mad collection.

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If he is dead - he has had some life hasnt he?

Not saying what he has done is right at all but he's made the most of his time on this planet thats for sure.

Snappy dresser too.

I like this hat
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it reminds me of Ena
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🙂

anyone going to a fancy dress party?
http://www.escapade.co.uk/Historical-Male-Costumes-hire/Colonel-Gaddafi-E20-E20.asp

I might hire this for HTN...

Merchant-Banker - Member
Im sure hell be found dead, then buried at see before any one sees the body?

but thats the price you pay for being in charge of the worlds 9th biggest oil producer.

Yes sure thats why the Libyan people rose up and threw him out. For the oil.

That's one more dangerously deluded ex world leader gone this week... Only Thatcher and Blair to go.

What are the odds on Berlusconi being kicked out soon?

Yes sure thats why the Libyan people rose up and threw him out. For the oil.

Sounds like it was 'the West' that did for him, though. NATO airstrike, apparently...

I was more hoping for Assad to be removed next but hey Western leaders we dont particularly like have got to be much worse right?

mcboo
Yes sure thats why the Libyan people rose up and threw him out. For the oil.

Errmmm - only they didn't. a small faction armed and encouraged by the west and with massive close air support and intelligence from the west has taken more than 6 months to get close to controlling most of the country.

Its a civil war not an uprising. if it was a popular uprising it wouldn't have taken 6 days.

The country will be wrecked and divided and will require massive support from the west for decades.

Did I just hear the BBC newsreader ask "so what happens now for Gaddafi, if he has been killed?" 😯

TJ in massive failure to recognise irony, irony... 🙄

Im sure hell be found dead, then buried at see before any one sees the body?

but thats the price you pay for being [s]in charge of the worlds 9th biggest oil producer[/s] a murdering, sadistic boneheaded thug who killed thousands of his own people.

Fixed that for you.

Useful Idiot

Mr Woppit i dont dispute that for 1 minute.

But do you really believe thats why the rebels received so much western help because of Gaddafi,s atrocities.

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Errmmm - only they didn't. a small faction armed and encouraged by the west and with massive close air support and intelligence from the west has taken more than 6 months to get close to controlling most of the country.

Define small faction. If you cant I'm going to assume you made that up.

Its a civil war not an uprising. if it was a popular uprising it wouldn't have taken 6 days.

What? Doesnt mean anything. Zero knowledge of war, civil or otherwise.

The country will be wrecked and divided and will require massive support from the west for decades.

Dry not to wish too hard. These are people's lives we're talking about. Brown people should be allowed to be free too.

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bbc home page M-B

Its not what I wish for McBoo - its what is happening on the ground. There is no unified leadership, Gadaffi had and still has significant regional support and the rest of the opposition to him is divided. A popular uprising does not requirte moer than 6 momths to happen.

Free - you really think they will be freer after this?. it will be civil war and / or a divided country. the assets will be stripped so there will be poverty, life expectancy will fall and there will be many many preventable deaths and a fundamentalist islamic state is fairly likely to arise in some parts of the country

A popular uprising does not requirte moer than 6 momths to happen.

What? Which manual of revolutionary war did you get that from? Better tell Che Guevara, Chairman Mao and George Washington they didnt have popular support. Which is why the Cuban, Chinese and American Revolutions fell apart soon after an apparent victory. Ermmmmm.....

Free - you really think they will be freer after this?. it will be civil war and / or a divided country. the assets will be stripped so there will be poverty, life expectancy will fall and there will be many many preventable deaths and a fundamentalist islamic state is fairly likely to arise in some parts of the country

More disgraceful wishful thinking from a gutless member of the British Left. Because if things turned out well how would that fit with your world view of brown people only having legitemate claims when they are fighting the white man. Thinly disguised racism.

Its a civil war not an uprising. if it was a popular uprising it wouldn't have taken 6 days.

Excellent. As everyone knows, all properly developed and mature nations will have had a civil war at some point in their history.

McBoo- once again you attack the person as you are unable to attack the message. I have no idea how you get racist from my post. Resort to baseless insults and it shows the poverty of your argument

If you have popular support for a revolution it does not take long to occur. This is a what has happened many many times. think of all the events in Europe at the end of the 80s, think of the rest of the arab spring. with masive air support it has taken more than 6 months to get most of the country under control of the rebels. Its obvious the poular support does not extend over the whole country

If there was no support for gadaffi he would have been captured in days and the country freed from him.

I don't know what the "British left" is supposed to mean - I am not of the left.

Its what is happening on the ground - the leader of one faction has been kiled by another for example.

its nothing to do with race - its everything to do with understanding what is actually happening and knowing the lessons from history. Unlike you I do not swallow propaganda wholesale.

you will see - I will be right

Reuters / BBC twitter feed have posted that he has died from his wounds.

BBC webpage is down.

don't know about that, but judging by the picture above Gaddifi's a dead Sirte.....

(coat on)

/fires assault rifle in the air

mncBoo - your world view of brown people only having legitemate claims when they are fighting the white man.

where on earth do you get this from? 🙄

More disgraceful wishful thinking from a gutless member of the British Left. Because if things turned out well how would that fit with your world view of brown people only having legitemate claims when they are fighting the white man. Thinly disguised racism.

😯

Al Jazeera reckon he's dead

Racist pure and simple.

mcboo - you really aren't making any sense

Are we happy then? It's obviously what NATO wanted from the start.

Personally, I'm still uncomfortable with the principle of UK intervention to effect regime change. Still, it's done now. Hopefully Libya will be a safer place.

simple.

Explains yourself quite well, don't you think?

but thats the price you pay for being in charge of the worlds 9th biggest oil producer a murdering, sadistic boneheaded thug who killed thousands of his own people but all that was forgotten when he was playing ball and suddenly became our best mate again

Anyone who believes this has nothing to do with oil is incredibly naive and has a very poor grasp of history/geopolitics.

edit: mcboo you are sounding increasingly deranged.

Based on whats happened in Iraq and Afghanistan, I think its safe to say the only people who will benefit from this, is the western world, and the remaining few corrupt officials,

The people of Libya Are left with a country that has been bombed back to the dark ages.

With No hospitals , no education , massive unemployment, and social unrest it doesn't look good.

But all is not lost as NATO didn't bomb any of the ports, or any oil pipe lines,

with an expected delay in oil production to take no longer than 5 weeks, and at 1.3 million barrels a day of crude oil (the good stuff ) it wont take long to fund the country, as long as the oil money is used to re-build Libya that is.

[i]as long as the oil money is used to re-build Libya that is. [/i]

*chinny reckon*

all going swimmingly in [url= http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/tension-mounts-ahead-tunisia-poll-20111020-1m8xa.html ]Tunisia [/url]and [url= http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/229044/20111011/egypt-protests-christians-funerals.htm ]Eqypt[/url], Yeah, go western style democracy.

Hopefully after Saddam and now Gaddafi this will end the stream of "What hiding hole in the ground for a former dictator?" threads on here.

will it make a differece if he was killed by NATO or the NTC fighters?

either way at least the fighting is over and i really do hope that the kind of sectarian bloodbath seen in iraq doesnt emerge in libya

either way at least the fighting is over and i really do hope that the kind of sectarian bloodbath seen in iraq doesnt emerge in libya

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McBoo - this will not be an end of the fighting. It will be the start of the next stage as the various factions attempt to gain control of key areas.

Read this for some idea
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/17/libya-the-next-afghanistan

the western powers might be in for a shock come election time in Libya. Many will vote with tribal loyalty, though not necessarily Gaddafi loyalist or ardent supporters, giving the anti-nato Gaddafi faction quite a power base in any subsequent parliment. If the government fails in to deliver better living standards and jobs for the people, people change their votes along with their Thobes.

Well maybe. But lets hope not shall we?

Believe me I'm a little sick of us always being painted as the bad guys, going to war in yet another Muslim country. But if you decide to stay out of it there is a consequence, just ask an inhabitant of Bengazi.

Sky News reporting he was "shot while trying to escape" by the NTC. Or fell down the stairs.

Believe me I'm a little sick of us always being painted as the bad guys, going to war in yet another Muslim country. But if you decide to stay out of it there is a consequence, just ask an inhabitant of Bengazi.

You are quite right. But, and its a big but, the rest of the world watches on with resignation as the western 'allies' bring freedom by overwhelming force to [b]selected[/b] countries that are chosen for liberation on the basis of what is good for us. Its not a liberation on the basis of human rights, nor a crusade against poverty and repression. Its motivations lie in the dogma of keeping the west ahead and above, controling the rest of the world and selecting the honour of democracy when it suits our needs.

No-one is stupid, the world watches, and its why the US and the UK are so hated the world over.

No-one is stupid, the world watches, and its why the US and the UK are so hated the world over.

Stop while you're ahead fella, being Western and liberal is great, "everyone" doesnt hate us.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10576544
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/18/sierra-leone-international-aid-blair

I've travelled all over the world, only ever been subject to anti-British language by a Singaporean transvestite (don't ask).

Mahmoud I'm a dinnerjacket next please.

Live by the assualt rifle die...

Gadaffi has had what should be considered a very good innings considering his line of work.

*wonders where all those 7.62mm bullets actually land after a celebratory salvo into the air*

Gadaffi Ducked

What? the Colonel has been killed? Shame really, I loved his Bargain Buckets...

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I guess the virgin amazon guard concept didn't work out. Pity.

Anyone watching BBC2? The rebel with the guitar drew the short straw when they were handing out the weaponry.

Strange how all this happened not long after al megrahi got his heroes welcome. Lockerbie was another big lie and this is just about energy security again.

What? the Colonel has been killed? Shame really, I loved his Bargain Buckets...

You can always rely on stw to throw up the alterntaive take on things 🙂

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Another victim of his murderous regime.

I hope he has been switched off.

Look like the video on aljazeera, shows him getting a good kicking before he was captured.

i just wanna know who he really is when they pull that rubber mask off

i just wanna know who he really is when they pull that rubber mask off

I bet it's the janitor

Only Thatcher and Blair to go.

Err Blair killed far far far more than Thatcher did. Did finding Catholicism mean he'd confess and wash awash his sins?

I doubt he'll be mourned in Libya. Bringing in paid mercenaries to shoot and kill his own people? Then theres the killing of the previous Libyan leader to gain power by assassination.

FWIW - I think the decision to 'help out' the rebels was pretty much a defensive move
I'm not entirely convinced that the motive was purely to get our hands on the oil - which we won't
When the Libyan rebels kicked off they were fancying their chances as part of the whole 'kicking off' that was sweeping around that part of the world.
It must of been fairly clear straight away to us that they didn't quite have the support of - say - the Egyptians and the chances of a prolonged uprising were very high indeed
The chances of radical Muslim group gaining influence as a long uprising played out would be high
The proximity of the Suez canal and the uncomfortable scenarios of a radical state with massive resources even closer to the West than they are already was probably a massive factor in us deciding we needed to get this over before other things could come into play.
We could handle Gaddafi OK because he would stop any dissent but what happened was just too much for us to be comfortable that he'd sort it out quickly, so we had to push it on a bit.

I'd much prefer to see photos of a blood soaked Mugabe lying dead in a ditch

Gaddafi taken to Hospital by ambulance with leg injuries

Then

Gaddafi beaten by mob, Dragged by legs behind a pickup (to hospital? 😯 )

And people complain about our NHS??? 😈

Mugabe luckily for him is only sat on coal and gas so financially not worth it.

We decided a Cricket embargo was the best way forward in punishing Mugabe.

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Its why the US and the UK are so hated the world over.

I'd wager that if we're "hated the world over," it's more likely down to our largest export these days being uncontrollably pissed football fans and stag parties.

you really have to fear for Libya when the people in charge of the country allow Gaddafis body to be treated in that way. by all accounts its being taken from city to city for people to see it. No need at all.

Assad next please. Go'on the Syrians.

by all accounts its being taken from city to city for people to see it. No need at all.

But when they murdalized Osama Bin Laden, no-one believed it.

If you don't have broadband or Sky tv, dragging his corpse around spreads the word.

They should have done that with Gordon Brown when he was finally winkled out of number 10.

Sorry, missed all this; is TJ a racist now then? 😯

Blimey. He [i]must[/i] be Prince Phillip's son...

Another victim of his murderous regime.

I know it's an emotive subject and that, and not condoning murder in any way, but let's not lose sight of the fact we live in a country ruled by some of the most 'murderous regimes' in history....

considering that anytime the conservative party is mentioned in here, there is a queue of people "waiting to dance on Thatchers grave".....

human nature isnt it.