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What modern cars do you think will become cool classic/ retro cars in the future?
I'll start with the mk1 Ford Ka... It looked very different when they were first introduced and does not look dated even now, great handling and fun to drive and there will not be many good ones left soon as they rot like mini's.
What say you?
Nice, standard Imprezzas.
Honda S2000.
Vauxhall VX220.
Ford Pumas - 'specially the 'Racing' ones.
Fiat Coupes.
Original Audi TT's - such a pure, beautiful shape.
Ford Puma. Only about 60,000 ever built, and a fair few got scrapped during the trade-in sceme. The 1.7 Yamaha engine is a beaut, but there were very few of the 1.4 and 1.6 models built, so those might be even more desirable.
Fantastic fun to drive. I'd dearly love to have another one.
If I could afford to run it... 🙁
Edit] oh, and the FRP's, only 500 built, around 400 still surviving.
Corrado VR6
Original MX5 with popup lights....Dakar or Gleneagles
as someone with a love of questionable "classics" the key is in special editions, top spec motors and weird stuff. Focus RS, Golf R32, Audi RS6 will still be lusted after in 10 years. My outside choice is probably the smart roadster. not a great car, but unusual and you don't see so many anymore. Brabus did sick things to them IIRC
Clio 182, but only cause I'm a fanboi
Clio Williams is already there
Juke.
Juke... Just did a sick in my mouth 😉
Alfa GTV 3.0
Impreza either the Catalunya or RB5
Lotus Elise mk1
And agree with legend....Clio Williams
Civic Type R more so the EK9 model, less so the space ship one.
Honda S2000.
Escort Cosworth is probably already regarded a classic.
Early MX5.
Juke......really?
Corrado VR6
Storm surely?
Suzuki Cappuccino
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[b]Modern[/b] cars Flashy 😉
Oh, forgot Porsche Boxsters.
Skyline R33/34's too.
Possibly Nissan 350/370Z and on a similar note Mazda RX8.
Oh, anything by Noble.
205 GTI 1.9
Mk 1 RS Turbo the white ones
G/H reg 325i Beemers
Mazda MX5 Mk3, plenty of them about and fun to drive, so that means in the future when most have been scrapped, there will be plenty of people who'll go all gooey over the few that remain. I mean look how many people make a big deal of Morris 1000's and they were hateful little things.
For the Mk 1 Ka, there are 150K left, but this is fast going down, and all of them seem to have major corrosion issues, around the fuel filler cap is the obvious one, they are like the 00's version of the Nova, which had huge numbers in the 90's, now just over 3K left and the numbers are falling fast.
Like the 205 GTI, and numbers are steady for this for some to survive.
Dare anyone to list a car that ISN'T ALREADY A CLASSIC!
lead the way my good man!
The Mk3 MX5 has no character to it, and is just plain dull to drive compared to even a Mk 2.5
GT86 will become a classic
BMW 8 series
Puma 1.7. I owned one. Awesome.
MX5. I owned two.
E46 M3 CSL
Fiat Panda 4x4
Alfa 147 GTA and brera, if any haven't died a horrible electronic death.
Mint examples of Mk4 Golf R32, And Mk4 Anniversary, with no modifications.
Both already pretty rare in mint condition and original spec, and fetch good prices.
legend - Member
Clio 182, but only cause I'm a fanboi
Clio Williams is already there
The 182 Trophy is likely to become a 'classic', limited numbers, critical acclaim from all the magazines. The standard 182, like the 172 has unfortunately become a bit of a chav car, I'm hoping, as an owner of one, that the 172 cup becomes a bit of a classic.
DC2 Integra, Golf R32, Focus RS (mk1&2), megane R26.R, M3 CSL
davidtaylforth - MemberDare anyone to list a car that ISN'T ALREADY A CLASSIC!
Don't think any of the ones I've posted are currently true 'classics'.
Well liked, certainly, but non have started appreciating massively in value yet, though some may have bottomed out.
What do you think?
Mk2 Leon Cupra, had a 07 plate and did 90,000 miles in it, loved it and did not miss abeat. 260bhp as standard, handled superbly, revo'd to 304 bhp for about £ 400, it was mentally fast 160+ and would batter M3's.
Love the shape in white, no sunroof, not fiddled with, still think about it often and it WiLL be a classic defo. Not many about and off the radar, not to be confused with the common as muck "FR" version.
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e36 M3
Fabia VRS
182 trophy... it avoids the chavs? Due to insurance or a price premium?
Focus RS
BMW Z4M
I had a 1.7 Puma for 10 years, loved it.
Hopefully Audi TTs and BMW Z3s will be forgotten one day.
Given we're talking 30-40 years' time... Current BMW 3 series..?
Original Cupra for me. Cant really find the love for the newer version though, but nice all the same though
Leon and Type R never will be IMO. Reason? Leon never seen as special and Type R always had chav connotations IMO.
Alot of the above were/are classy cars or seen as classy. Ideal markers for future classics.
thing is, [i]any[/i] car from say pre-79 [i]IS[/i] a classic.
The Q should be: "what will be iconic?"
TT is the only one that jumps out in terms of styling - most other cars look so alike. Nissan Cube perhaps, Alphas,
Citroen DS3
The original MR2 will become classic soon
Maybe the Toyota Sera,too
bmw mcoupe - batmobile!
legend - Member
lead the way my good man!
I dont know enough cars to know any. Although if someone else posts one, I'll tell you if it'll be a classic or not.
Apparently a classic has to be 20 years or older, I'm sure alot of the above must be getting on for that. They're all awesome no doubt.
But what about "modern" classics i.e. last five years or so?
Nissan GTR, a very good example of a modern car. I can see it being a classic in time.
Does anyone have a definition of a classic car?
I'm not sure I can see the Golf R32 and Focus RS becoming classics tbh. The original Golfs are almost classics now but can a 5th/6th generation of a particular design be iconic enough to reach classic status. The original hot hatches were groundbreaking in their concept/design as well as being good cars.
hora - Member
182 trophy... it avoids the chavs? Due to insurance or a price premium?
It's a more expensive and more complicated beast. Shocks (which cost 10x the price of normal 182 shocks) need rebuilt every 40,000 miles which would probably scare some off. With only 500 rhd versions built they do command more cash too, around £1,500 more than a standard, cup-packed or Cup version. Not a huge amount more unless you look at percentages (other 182s are around £3k now).
Probably most importantly, they wouldn't get a choice of colour 🙂
P.S. No 182 is chavvy...... well mine isn't - honest 😐
Audi A1 maybe, not my choice but the missus has one
new vw scirocco?
Audi A3 some say already a classic? not the new sportback one but the 3 door
BMW Z3 M coupe - always wanted one, ugly clown shoe of a car though.
Audi A3 some say already a classic?
that may be the boldest claim yet!
BMW M Coupe on the other hand 8)
All Peugeots but....
205 1.9gti
306 and 106 Rallye
406v6 coupe. Big brembo 4pots and 200bhp through a lazy v6 and it was pretty too.
BMW M Coupe
mmmmmmm tasty
Dare I throw a spanner in the works 😳 and suggest that the Prius might attain classic status
I'm not sure I can see the Golf R32 and Focus RS becoming classics tbh. The original Golfs are almost classics now but can a 5th/6th generation of a particular design be iconic enough to reach classic status. The original hot hatches were groundbreaking in their concept/design as well as being good cars.
Completely agree. Stick a big engine and 4wd in a dull car thats on its 6th incarnation. Not a classic at all. Surely it only appeals to die hard VW fans?
I mentioned the Ka becoming a classic in another thread a week or so ago. Can't remember what thread it was. Also mentioned the Puma.
Struggling to think of many others....
Original Civic Type R?
Audi A3 some say already a classic?
that may be the boldest claim yet!
It was a tough choice between the A3 and the R8 but the A3 wins as this is the economy era and if your co2 is in triple figures its so not cool or classic anymore 🙁
Subaru P1 if not already will be a classic car some day. Looking at these modern cars I think the BMW 1M has all the attributes to become a classic its such a great little hot hatch just shame about the price. Its no Ford RS500 though I think that will still be kicking around as an all time great in another 25 years.
Agree with bearnecessities, the DS3 is one of those, fairly rare, examples of the designer just getting everything right, from pretty much every angle. I [i]love[/i] those cars, in exactly the same way I fell in love with the Puma, the first time I saw one. Even now, when I see a Puma I get a bit misty-eyed, I really loved that little car, it was beautiful to look at, and so much [i]fun[/i] to drive.
Given the money, I'd have another Puma, an FRP, and a DS3 Racing.
Suzuki Supercarry/Bedford Rascal. Sliding door.
K11 Nissan Micra 1.0 steel wheels/unpainted trim.
Citroen AX GT.
Honda Beat.
Audi A2.
Performance wise, anything high revving, normally aspirated.
I think any Performance version of a Hot Hatch will be Classic.
Look at how many Escort RS Turbos where about in the 90s along with the Cosworths and now they are a rare car.
The R32 Golf, standard GTIs will hold there value.
If we are allowed a new car which I think will be Classic, its the Focus ST Estate as not many people are going to buy the Estate compared to the Hatch.
Alfa 156, good early ones already getting rare, and a lot of the ones you do see these days sport dubious 'enhancements'
In 15 years time a decent one will be rare as hens teeth. Decent looking car that drives well (for a FWD). Definite future classic.
Garage Dweller got it right with the Peugeot 406 coupe. One of the most beautiful cars of its time and relatively rare. A dead cert future classic IMO.
How about the land rover defender or
Citroen BX GTi?
Alfa 159 - For its beauty and the chances that running examples will be very, very rare
Another I had one, Puma voter....sooo much fun, although a little rusty in places.
Original merc Slk - seriously cheap at the moment
Some one please help me explain to my wife we need a focus st estate, to replace our Volvo v50 dull diesel burner
Its the same car but with too much power powering and steering the front wheels?
BMW 320si from 2006 (the world touring car holomolgation special)
Alfa 159
no - 156 = the 159 is just a muscled-up copy without the rear door handles - not as much of a classic. 156 was the best looking alfa for a while, if they had just been reliable BMW would have been in trouble as the value was loads better and they drove better.
Fiat 500 obviously.
Smart car and the Smart roadster.
It pains me to mention a BMW, but the Z8?
Lotus Elise?
That DS3 above.
Audi A2?
RS2, Mk1 Rs4 and Rs6 avants
Prius.
First mainstream hybrid. They are going to take dedication to keep on the road. So in 20-30 years time, there are not going to be many around.
Hopefully Audi TTs and BMW Z3s will be forgotten one day.
That's what people used to say about Capris and Escorts.
almost any of the "first cars"
ie cars that folk remember fondly as their first cars and have an emotional attachment to.
Clios , Saxos , Corsas , Novas , micras , chicquichentos , puntos etc etc ......
Elise? Bang on.
2CV SHOULD be there but I don't think it ever really did outside a few people.
elise is already a classic - tried to buy one recently.
even an old mk1 fetches silly money for milage and condition
seems to have only ever been an enthusiasts car.
You're all doing it wrong!
Seeing as the MG-B is the definitive classic car in the UK, I guess a classic car is a performance 2 seater that is orders of magnitude slower than a base model family 5 door of the same era.
Now, go!
Seeing as the MG-B is the definitive classic car in the UK, I guess a classic car is a performance 2 seater that is orders of magnitude slower than a base model family 5 door of the same era.
I hope it isn't the definitive classic - I was astonished when I went in a mates at how nasty/poor it was compared to my dad's Alfa 1750 GTV of the same vintage.
both already classics
Quick shout for The Mokka
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