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Our MkV never managed over 30mpg. I once did a 100 mile motorway journey in it late on a (cool, but not cold) Friday evening. Virtually no traffic, so ideal conditions; did a steady 65-70mph with nothing beyond a very light throttle application with the deliberate intention of trying to max the mpg. It averaged 30mpg exactly according to the trip computer. There is no way that it would achieve 28mpg if driven 'briskly'. I wouldn't class its thirst as ridiculous, but you need to be prepared for the amount of petrol you'll be putting in it.

Well come round and look at the computer readout if you want. 2 weeks ago did Aberfeldy-S****horpe-Huddersfield-Mansfield-Stockport over 2 days and averaged just over 30mpg with some driving in heavy traffic


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 10:51 am
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Remember that VW rushed out the MkVI Golf because they couldn't sort the niggling build quality issues in the MkV

Not true. It wasn't rushed out, but the main reason for getting it out earlier that anticipated was because the MKV was famously expensive to build, cutting VAG's margins


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 10:56 am
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...and VW nicked Ford's Focus chassis designer for the mk5 which is partly why it generally handled so much better even as a base model.

Mk5 definitely worse put together than the mk4 though.


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 11:02 am
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"bollocks?"
1)my car is only 0.6 seconds 0-60 behind the times you just posted if you want to go into silly time comparisons.
2) its got less than half the bhp of the cars you just posted about.
3) the cars you mentioned could do possibly do 180mph.. but around the track it doesnt mean shit.

yes surf.. we know how amazing the rs4 is in many ways, but when you get into another car and ask yourself the big question "just how much do you enjoy driving this car compared to the other?"

The fact that you even end up asking yourself that question gets a bit confusing. it sounds on paper (or a forum) a diffrent league.

and it is.

but like i said, its not about power,bhp..

Involving is the word.

One day you will realize that some of the best fun you have had on 4 wheels was hitting 30mph in a go cart. It doesnt have to have power to have fun,surf.

part 1 for surfmat:

part 2:

have a look at the cars,the times and the overall results matt.. then get back to me with your arguement on what is so spectacular about having 240+ hp. If you look at my previous post i mentioned a few things why someone would buy a car. My choice out of that list would be "involving"

whats yours? 😀


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 11:05 am
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"bollocks?"
1)my car is only 0.6 seconds 0-60 behind the times you just posted

Are you trying to say that your Pug 106 diesel does 0-60 in less than 7 seconds?


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 11:22 am
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A 106 GTI does not get to 60 in 6.9s.

Yes they are good cars - I had the Saxo version from new and really enjoyed it but it was still a French tin box.

I find carrying stuff in a go kart a bit tricky.

A 106 GTI is now ancient - very few are still in any condition worth considering. If you want a French tinbox these days, get a Clio Sport 200.

If "involving" means noisy, falls to bits, a chav's dream, easy to break into/nick, lacking in almost any safety kit, rattly, etc, etc then yes your car is way better than an R32, RS4, whatever.

Personally if I was looking for a mid to late 90s hot hatch, I'd go for a Racing Puma not a 106 or VTS. Even the "cooking" 1.7 is a 106 beater.

Captain - is he talking about a 106 DIESEL?! Ha ha ha ha!!


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 11:28 am
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My mate had a Puma and I used to laugh at it telling him it were a girls car etc..... until I had a go!

Man that was a great wee car!

Next up for me? I want a Monaro. Anyone driven one of them? How was it?


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 11:33 am
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VAG 4WDs and diesel 3 series, the definition of good taste.


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 11:33 am
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As are these beauties shandy. I notice you love to step in and offer "advice" on car threads yet run a top heavy mock camper. I suspect you may also have something like an old Passat or similar dullard mobile...
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Posted : 27/09/2010 11:39 am
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with a few hundred quid spent on a decat,airbox,qep flywheel, it could do 7 seconds dead consistently 0-62 even with my fat ass in it.even hitting the stopwatch just before it hit 65mph on the clock you would get these times.it didnt cost thousands.

A racing puma would be a nice buy these days but i dont like the driving position along with the view out of it.

If "involving" means noisy, falls to bits, a chav's dream, easy to break into/nick, lacking in almost any safety kit, rattly, etc, etc then yes your car is way better than an R32, RS4, whatever.

No,be nice, thats not the definition of involving and you know it ;O)

Once again, go watch the clips of it up against cars from the same era.


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 11:41 am
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yes its the 1.5 diesel.


 
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Martin - I don't have time TBH. Yes the 106 handles well - I said how much I enjoyed my similar Saxo and still think it's an all time FWD great. But would I want one again? No I wouldn't. Same with the 205 GTi - great handler, now too long in the tooth.

And while it's a tidy FWD car, a similar level/price RWD car like a mk3 MR2 or MX5 is in a different league when it comes to "involvement" and handling.

As for the diesel - WTF? That's a different kettle of fish. Proper old ladies car. A bit like owning a 1.4 Focus then using an RS as a comparison to another car.

Why?!

It has 58, yes 58bhp (the GTI at least has 120) and the quickest to 60 I can find is 15.2 seconds. How on earth would a few mods double (or more) the power and more than half the 0-60 time?!!!

Come on, you're being very silly.

Even our 1.3 Suzuki Jimny with 85bhp (60 in 14s) would blast off a 106 1.5 diesel.


 
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no i was kidding. its not the diesel lol.just thought i would spice it up a little. put a grin on peoples faces on a monday. ;O)

how about spending 40k on a 106!..
http://www.youtube.com/user/bic106#p/a/u/1/JiLSdd9gdmE


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 12:00 pm
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Mat you've a remarkable memory, I did have a Delica about 5 years ago when I was travelling around New Zealand. I have a MkV GTI now but I try not to let it define myself as a person.


 
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Economy on the mk5 GTI seems to vary car to car. My Edition 30 is often better than the standard GTI I used to have, although even that is generally high 20s if careful (30mpg at an ansolute push). I change the display if driving harder, as it's too depressing (low 20s on both cars).

That said, I've seen plenty other drivers get better in mags, forums, etc.


 
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So then Shandy, a mk5 GTi is a car for those with "good taste" is it? More so than an R32 or 3 series BMW?

Fascinated to see how you came to that conclusion.

I'd only look at an Edition 30 GTi. Standard GTi makes a Ford Focus look rare in comparison.


 
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As I said, I try not to get worked up about it. I drove all the cars in the class and picked the one I liked, its a good car for me. It isn't depreciating much and I can't really think of anything I'd change it for.

I've no interest in debating anything with you, you just come across as a complete know-it-all **** and I'm struggling to think of a car thread in recent times which you haven't wrecked by turning it into one of your obsessive points-scoring exercises.


 
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Economy on the mk5 GTI seems to vary car to car. My Edition 30 is often better than the standard GTI I used to have, although even that is generally high 20s if careful (30mpg at an ansolute push). I change the display if driving harder, as it's too depressing (low 20s on both cars).

That said, I've seen plenty other drivers get better in mags, forums, etc.

Variable economy within a car model is not just restricted to Golfs either.

In my experience it happens a lot with other cars and it always seems to be that I end up with one of the thirstier ones.


 
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I have seen mid-30s on long runs but it would tend to be low 20s a lot of the time, most of the miles are in town or around country back roads.


 
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Nice debating skills there Shandy - clearly you don't like being faced with facts and so resort to petty little insults. How very clever of you.

Mk5 Gti is a decent enough motor but deciding it is a car for those with "taste" is a bit pompous and TBH utter BS. All sorts of people drive GTIs as with most cars.

Thanks for your input though and sorry you are incapable of joining in without having to resort to running off in a strop. More mature STWers are perfectly happy to share enthusiasm without the red mist of childish stroppyness descending.


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 1:27 pm
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Well come round and look at the computer readout if you want. 2 weeks ago did Aberfeldy-S****horpe-Huddersfield-Mansfield-Stockport over 2 days and averaged just over 30mpg with some driving in heavy traffic

I wasn't questioning what your car is achieving, but wanted to add in another perspective (partly to support my earlier comments about running costs). Ours never achieved more than 30mpg, and if pushed hard would drop below 25mpg.

For the Mk V -> Mk VI quality/cost issue the two are closely related. By simplifying elements of the design it became easier and cheaper to build as well as reducing the number of place where the niggling issues were occurring. It's my understanding that addressing both these points were seen as critical within VW - hence the relatively short MkV model run.


 
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I never mentioned my car, you did. You are the pretentious **** pontificating and passing judgement on everybody and everything else, whilst driving a diesel version of one of the most common cars in its class.

Anyway, must dash, I've a blow-by-blow account of my 53rd place performance in the local girls under 14 duathlon that I know the world is waiting to hear.


 
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Well shandy that hissy fit revealed plenty about you didn't it?

Bitter than I have a "nicer" car, bitter that I did fairly well in a BTF triathlon, bitter about all sorts of other things too I suspect.

Here's a tip for you - look at your own life. If it sucks which I suspect it does, try and fix it [i]yourself[/i] rather than venting at others. You have contributed NOTHING to this thread apart from whining sniping bleats.

This fits you pretty well:

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You have convinced yourself that you are superior, to an un-named person, somewhere on the internet, that you know nothing about and who has no interest in being competive about anything.

Hopefully you'll get banned from this place like you did from the last forum you blighted with your presence.


 
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You may be vastly superior in every way but on here you come across as very sad, very bitter and pretty vacuous. But if that suits you, carry on.

As for BikeRadar - many people have stopped posting on it as it's now overrun by childish losers like yourself and admin'd by some very sad little internet geeks. Took a while to realise but once I did, I hit the "try and get banned" button. It worked a treat against utter pondlife like you.


 
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As intoxicating as the sound of a V6 might be - can't really see any sense with current fuel prices...

... unless it's a project car with something more economical for the day drive, or you don't do much mileage.

Not the same car or motor, but looked at the 147GTA when it came out - the garage where I got my car serviced was running one as a demonstrator. They reckoned it was doing somewhere between 15 and 18mpg 🙁 Many manufacturers are going the way of smaller capacity engines with bigger boost pressures to replace the larger capacity motors previously in their line-ups.

Mk 5 GTi on the other hand would normally return mid to high 30s and would edge in to the low 40s on a long motorway run.


 
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rkk - yes indeed but I for one am very sad there will never be a V6 Golf. The R is very capable but it just doesn't have the same appeal.

Regardless of performance, the delivery of the 3.2 engine was flawless - no gaps in power at any revs, easy to control to a fine level, etc.

I don't see why people compare the R32 to the GTI - they are very different in all but shape.


 
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Shandy, I wouldn't worry about it. I hardly ever come on here, but every thread I see seems to have 'Awesome' Matt boasting about his knowledge, driving skills or how everything he owns is better than anyone else's. His post below particularily amused me:

Mutant - pics of your RS6 or I assume you are a keyboard warrior pretending he has one. They don't appeal to me to be honest - too heavy. An RS4 is a different matter.

Why should he assume that someone on here couldn't possibly afford an Audi RS6. Just because he lives in a fantasy world, doesn't mean others have to BS on forums to make themselves feel better.


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 2:26 pm
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Gachet - occupation IT.

Current contribution to STW - telling us his mate has a Cooper S. And trying to be a smart ar5e about RWD cars.

Now there's a surprise.

All boxes ticked - geek stalker nerd with nothing to add but a lot to moan about.


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 2:31 pm
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Jesus. Car thread involves a personal rant involving Mat. Dear me.

Can we please close this thread as it's now Monday and the thread specifically says Friday.


 
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I heard an R32 get wound round to the limiter the other day and it sounded immense, on noise alone this is a big bag of win.

My understanding was that having the V6 in it makes it a bit of a dog in the corners, but then I've not driven one so wouldn't know. Either way, its a nice car and won't loose much money. Oh, and I lost the service book for my BMW - £7 to the customer helpline thing and they sent me a new one all stamped up.

Oh, and Hora, that was me..you do know nowt


 
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Mol - good idea.

To the stalker geeks - Pardon me for contributing to a thread about R32s seeing as I OWNED one for a year. Pardon me for comparing them to other cars seeing as that's what the OP wanted. Pardon me for answering to personal rants from people with nothing better to do. I don't feel the need to do the same (I only respond if yet another muppet has a go for no reason) - me happy, you Stalker Geeks not.

End of.

Flange - after the mk3 VR6, I expected the same but somehow the R32 gets away with it pretty well. It's a bit understeery and slightly vague in certain situations but overall it's a great handler. One of the few cars where Haldex AWD actually works pretty well.


 
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Boom. Bosh. Done. Yeah.


 
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plus1 Gachet and Molgrips
LOL @SmugMatt, soft lad.
A few pages back, I dared so suggest that our little egotist might be a bit foolish to be tussling with RS6s on a public road. I'm not against spirited driving, but the fact is that you can't race against such high powered cars on the public road without reaching frankly ludicrous speeds. I know - I've done it on the track and I'd never drive like that on the road. Any way, Cornwall's answer to Senna came with an euphemisticaly comical description of "out cornering" his RS6 (which was, presumably, driving Miss Daisy at the time to be doing anything other than mental speeds). Anyway, getting to the point, I was recounting his exploits to a few friends at the weekend, one of whom is a professional driver (shall we say) and we came across this little nugget:

The only time you "win" is when some gimp usually in a 2.0TDI Audi or Golf decides to try and prove himself (or more increasingly herself) by driving up your backside when you can't move out of the way on a dual carriageway or motorway. So as the traffic clears, it can be fun to leave them for dust. Safely.

(Don't you just love the single word "Safely" at the end? LOL). Now besides being a toe curlingly embarrassing statement, it gives another insight into the mentality. We also wondered what chapter of "Roadcraft" he was referring to with that manouvre.
So don't get wound up lads. File under "Internet braggart" and ignore.
In answer to the original poster, I'm sure you'll love an R32. I'd be very wary of buying anything without a service history, but at the least I'd get somebody in the know to give it a thorough looking over. Repairs can also be very costly when cars like this reach a certain age - cambelt changes, exhausts etc. But as long as you factor this in to your running cost, then fine. Great cars. If you go for it, I hope you get a good one.
Now back to a bit of humour.....


 
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To the stalker geeks

Do you know what stalking is?

Pardon me for contributing

Contributing? You're slamming everyone else's opinion for differing with yours and insulting them in the worst possible terms you can come up with.

It's not really that nice, Mat. Can't you just say something like 'well I'm not sure I agree with that, but whatever' with a smile?


 
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hmmmm, well this has gone a bit off the beaten track...


 
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Been driving a mk4 gt tdi for a while, but looking for something a bit more grrr.
There's a 03 plate R32 at a local garage, 55k on the clock, tidy, just over £8k....but the catch is no service history. should i steer clear on that basis? wheels and tyres are new so i can't really check easily to see how if it has been overly ragged or not.
obviously i'd expect a car of this nature to have been pushed in its life, but i have never bought a car without any service history before....

wotchareckon?

Back to the OP

Rexated - that's low milage for a car of that age? It would be easy enought as mentioned here to check with VW as to its service record with them?

No records of service history and low milage, would ring alarm bells for me, has it had more than one owner, has someone pranged it & repaired it?

How much would a clean example with the same age/milage go for with a VW service history?

Hang on............... why am I bothering!

I think Rexated has long gone 😉


 
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I think he's the stalker as he took the time to look at my profile and read through my past posts.

On re-reading the first page this made me laugh:

There's utter cr4p being spouted here by many who have never driven or owned anything more exciting than a Vauxhall Astra

There he is again assuming that no-one actually owns a decent car.

Back on topic, I owned a Golf VR6 for several years and one thing I would mention is if you look at other higher mileage R32's it is worth considering that the timing chain and tensioners need changing at 100,000 miles and if it costs a similar amount to my VR6 you'll be looking at circa £1500. Worth bearing in mind if you are intending on keeping it for a few years.


 
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I heard an R32 get wound round to the limiter the other day and it sounded immense, on noise alone this is a big bag of win.

My understanding was that having the V6 in it makes it a bit of a dog in the corners

Forgive me for getting back to the original topic. The R32 makes a great noise either at idle or at full whack. I love it, but wouldn't buy it just for the noise.

The R32 handling is both brilliant and fun, as opposed to e.g the S3 which has huge amounts of grip but no feedback and therefore very dull. The trick as with any front wheel drive car is to unsettle it a bit by going in with a slightly trailing throttle and wind some lock on to get a bit of lift-off oversteer. Then power on, and the 4WD system just fires it out of the corner without the normal understeer you get from front wheel drive. Done that way, turn in is brilliant and exit speed phenomenal


 
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LOL 🙂
Has anyone got a picture of that troll spray stuff they could post up around now? 😉


 
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So Captain is the only one with actual experience of the car ad well as me. Yet the usually pile in beating about bragging and ego because they have nothing else to say. So come on geeks, what have you guys actually contributed? Nothing. Just spouted a load of abuse and attempts to have a go. Well nice one guys, once again you've all spoken volumes about yourselves. Total losers.

Mol - do yourself a favour and cut the sniping. I don't know why you randomly act fine then suddenly go moany but it really doesn't suit you.


 
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Captain - you have it right and seem to be the ONLY other one who has actually owned an R32.

The rest would like a decent car but can't have one. This hurts them so they try and better themselves by trying to put others with a decent car down.

Is it possible to filter out the "noise" created by these bleating halfwits? The rest of the thread is quite interesting.

As for the others here's what you do before you attempt to post:

Name what car(s) you have.
Tell us what additional driver training you've had.
Tell us how many points you've had on your license and how many crashes you've had - this will negate your endless "safety" drivel if anything more than zero.

Tinners - are you completely retarded? Have you any idea why a fairly light non powerful car like a Megane R26.R or an Elise gets astonishing, often supercar beating laps times? Any idea what a mk4 Golf R32 MATCHED an SL55 AMG (faster than an RS6) around the Top Gear track? No, you don't get it do you? But carry on bleating about your "race driver" mate. See I actually used Roadcraft in my Police driver training. You however have the lamest iteration of the 3.2 VAG engine. A decent car but not a drivers one. Sorry about that.


 
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Something wierd just happened to my post...!


 
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Mol - do yourself a favour and cut the sniping. I don't know why you randomly act fine then suddenly go moany

I start going moaney when you cross the line into some pretty vicious abuse. The fact that you don't realise that this is what I am doing implies that you don't know how vicious you are being.

I'm trying to point out why you p*ss people off whenever we talk about cars, that's all 🙂

You REALLY have to learn how to play nice. People can have opinions, you don't have to RAM down our throats constantly about how right you always are. It's really not at all pleasant and it makes EVERY SINGLE car thread you are on degenerate into a load of nastiness. In fact, I didn't even open this for four days because I knew how bitter and vitriolic it'd be.

Just learn to disagree nicely, for all our sakes.


 
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I like the way you try and agree with a minor point in a post that is effectively calling you a ****, like that person agrees with you. Its particularly amusing when the person comes back and clarifies their opinion that you're a loser, like molgrips did just then.


 
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So then Mol, how is talking about the car from personal experience a "load of nastiness" then? I don't do it, a certain "gang" of muppets does it. They don't have anything to add other than bitter vitriol disguised as trying to be clever.

And for some reason you get all overexcited at times and get swept away by the demonic cyber geeks.

Now if you must, please point out any post where I "started it."

You'll struggle.

Back to the OP - if this one doesn't suit, look for another. You'll love it!


 
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Tinners - are you completely retarded?

That's not very nice, for a start.

Now if you must, please point out any post where I "started it."

You don't have to have started it. You escalate it.

Grown-ups should know when to leave it.

EDIT: and yes, I know I get suckered in sometimes too.


 
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Hang on............... why am I bothering!

I think Rexated has long gone

heheh - i'm still hanging on in here!
This thread has thrown up some really interesting stuff for me, so thanks very much for those of you who commented with opinion - as requested in my thread title - and some with real first hand experience of the cars that have been mentioned.

However, on balance, I'm off to buy a Fireblade 😆 😈


 
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This is what Shandy said about Mat which seems to be where it all got ugly.

I've no interest in debating anything with you, you just come across as a complete know-it-all **** and I'm struggling to think of a car thread in recent times which you haven't wrecked by turning it into one of your obsessive points-scoring exercises.

Unfortunately, much as I like Mat in general, this is pretty much on the money for the car threads 🙁


 
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Well in that case Mol, I have no time for you either.

Own goal.


 
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It's not personal mate.

Just trying to help. I like car discussions, but I don't like bitter arguments 🙁

You are very abrasive on these threads, I just wish you weren't.


 
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You know Rex - way back on the first page I was gonna suggest a motorcycle.

Being a biker myself I find that provides more than enough excitement.

Fireblades are ace! Great predictable handling, plenty of go, comfy and well built.


 
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whats the VED on the r32?


 
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I must say I'm not keen on contributing to car threads anymore. I would have said I didn't particularly like the R32 as I found it dull, & that was comming from a cooking Leon with a few mods, quite glad I didn't bother now though 😉


 
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I'm with you 2unfit2ride

This thread has turned seriously vitriolic and unpleasant

This quote was particularly nasty

The rest would like a decent car but can't have one. This hurts them so they try and better themselves by trying to put others with a decent car down.


 
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FTR I am trying not to be vitriolic.. my posts are meant to be a friendly word of advice.. hope it didn't come across otherwise.


 
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plus1 Gachet and Molgrips
LOL @SmugMatt, soft lad.
A few pages back, I dared so suggest that our little egotist might be a bit foolish to be tussling with RS6s on a public road. I'm not against spirited driving, but the fact is that you can't race against such high powered cars on the public road without reaching frankly ludicrous speeds. I know - I've done it on the track and I'd never drive like that on the road. Any way, Cornwall's answer to Senna came with an euphemisticaly comical description of "out cornering" his RS6 (which was, presumably, driving Miss Daisy at the time to be doing anything other than mental speeds). Anyway, getting to the point, I was recounting his exploits to a few friends at the weekend, one of whom is a professional driver (shall we say) and we came across this little nugget:

The only time you "win" is when some gimp usually in a 2.0TDI Audi or Golf decides to try and prove himself (or more increasingly herself) by driving up your backside when you can't move out of the way on a dual carriageway or motorway. So as the traffic clears, it can be fun to leave them for dust. Safely.

(Don't you just love the single word "Safely" at the end? LOL). Now besides being a toe curlingly embarrassing statement, it gives another insight into the mentality. We also wondered what chapter of "Roadcraft" he was referring to with that manouvre.
So don't get wound up lads. File under "Internet braggart" and ignore.
In answer to the original poster, I'm sure you'll love an R32. I'd be very wary of buying anything without a service history, but at the least I'd get somebody in the know to give it a thorough looking over. Repairs can also be very costly when cars like this reach a certain age - cambelt changes, exhausts etc. But as long as you factor this in to your running cost, then fine. Great cars. If you go for it, I hope you get a good one.
Now back to a bit of humour.....

LOL

Go away for a couple of days and come back to find STW has turned into Pistonheads 😕

Never owned a R32 but last but one 'Associate' has one (had it for a few months). I had the indeed pleasure to drive it on various roads, including twisty Bs* Nice stiff chassis, plenty enough power, reasonable steering feedback.

*Not of course experienced your driving Surf Mat, more than happy to take you for a drive if you fancy a few pointers 😉 But Safe Driving Rule No 1 (appears in the HC and Roadcraft 6 times) "Always be able to stop within the distance you can see to be clear" - unless you've magic x-ray vision that can see through bends, it's the limit point that dictates your speed, not supposedly how well the car corners 8)


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 5:56 pm
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The R32 handling is both brilliant and fun, as opposed to e.g the S3 which has huge amounts of grip but no feedback and therefore very dull.

I'd agree with that comment if you mean the 1.8T S3. I drove a remapped one from Manchester to Edinburgh and back for a long weekend. It was fast, smooth but somehow 'remote'?

I prefer transmission-whine etc etc. 8)


 
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Well thanks for that Andy - and as stated clearly before, you often need to slow down more than expected for some bends and less for others.

I would not corner hard if I couldn't see properly - there could be anything around any bend. Hence why I've never crashed or got near to crashing. Some corners have great sight lines so you can take them quickly.

You've just assumed I was taking every corner too fast as has every one of the bitter geeks here that has hung onto that tiny point and banged on and on and on about it.

If I am such a "dangerous" driver, why was I invited to be an IAM trustee last year by the new MD? And why have I been an IAM member for 12 years? And how did I comfortably pass the Police course I did at Portishead?

At least you're right about the R32 though.


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 6:05 pm
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I'd call you Ned Flanders but I actually like the Ned Flanders character.


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 6:14 pm
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Sigh...


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 6:14 pm
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Small man syndrome...?


 
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Lame.

Very lame.


 
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If it's any consolation, Mrs T says that he does have a point about me being retarded. She's said not for me to worry and that she's retarded too and that we've inherited it from our mother.
I'd also like to point out that my friend who drives "professionally" is a taxi driver. If you're ever in Cardiff, you'll spot his well driven black and white Vauxhall Carlton a mile off because of all of the black smoke it belches out the back and the fact that he flicks on the hazards when he slows down (brake lights a little dodgy). However, he can accelerate all the way up to 17mph as smooth as you like on the motorway and were it not for all the honking of the horns behind, you'd struggle to find a more relaxing way of getting from A to B (special rates for STW members - just say you're one of Tinners' online buddies)


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 6:42 pm
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Slightly OT- whats the VAG 2.0T like tuned/remapped?


 
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Mark, if you spend enough you can do what you like, IHI turbo running 400 bhp is do-able, trouble is you could of bought a proper drivers car by the time you add up the cost, not that i can talk, I spent a fortune on my 1.8T, & i didn't even have to pay for the labour 😯

Edited to say that I only kept the Leon as a bike run around, in the last year I had it (2008) it only done a few thousand miles, but it was my project, & everyone needs a project 😉


 
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Well thanks for that Andy - and as stated clearly before, you often need to slow down more than expected for some bends and less for others.

I would not corner hard if I couldn't see properly - there could be anything around any bend. Hence why I've never crashed or got near to crashing. Some corners have great sight lines so you can take them quickly.

You've just assumed I was taking every corner too fast as has every one of the bitter geeks here that has hung onto that tiny point and banged on and on and on about it.

If I am such a "dangerous" driver, why was I invited to be an IAM trustee last year by the new MD? And why have I been an IAM member for 12 years? And how did I comfortably pass the Police course I did at Portishead?

At least you're right about the R32 though.

Aaah, I may [i]well[/i]have driven with you then.. 😉

Admittedly I didn't trawl through every 130 posts, but neither did I assume you were "dangerous" or anything else 🙂


 
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I think he's dangerous 🙂


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 7:39 pm
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Jeeesus 400bhp is ASKING for trouble 😆


 
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Jeeesus 400bhp is ASKING for trouble

Not if you do it right, but that's where the money comes in as your talking about internals, now getting the power down is asking for trouble 😉


 
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what can the golf r32 do 0-62 in? 1/4 mile? 30-50 in third? ,50-70mph in 3rd and 4th?

just wondering.


 
Posted : 27/09/2010 9:14 pm
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Buy a Prius, it's the only way you'll be able to sleep at night.

Buy a Monaro, it's the only real heterosexual man's car on the market today.

Buy [insert poster's own car here] it's [bullshit]...

PS: You can't drive, you're dangerous because you like going fast.

You can't drive, you're dangerous because you can't control a car properly.


 
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lol

only reason I want the Monaro is that I think it looks pretty good, it has a honking great supercharged V8, a manual gearbox and RWD.

Plus I don't need to worry about fuel costs as I'm hardly ever here to use one. Might as well before I get too old....


 
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.....You however have the lamest iteration of the 3.2 VAG engine

I know, I know and don't think that there isn't a second of every minute of every hour of every day that those words won't resonate in my mind. In my defence, it was bought in error. We meant to look at a few Foci, but took a wrong turning at Morrisons and ended up in the Audi garage. As Mrs T and the little Ts sat in the R8 demonstrator to finish off their ice creams, the nervous salesman showed me around the forecourt. When I said that I'd take one of the little 3 door ones, he asked me if I wanted 1.9 diesel, 2.0 diesel, 2.0T, quattro, non quattro, DSG or manual. Decision, decisions. In the end, I plumped for one of the little red shiny ones. Imagine my embarrassment when we got home and I discovered that he'd offloaded one of the 3.2s on me. Still, I managed to avoid ridicule by prising off the tailgate badges and replacing them with an M Power one I'd bought off Ebay.
You also have me soundly beaten on the issue of crashes. If you disregard minor crashes at less than 20mph, crashes on private property and crashes whilst engaged in reverse gear, I've only had about 10 crashes in as many years. The most recent was when I swerved to avoid a man jumping out of a manhole (would you believe it if I told you that a water board employee could outsprint a well driven Audi?) and the most notorious was when I made it onto the local radio travel news. It was on the M5 near Stroud. As I entered the sliproad, I spotted a young whippersnapper driving a lesser marque in my rear view mirror. Naturally, I floored the throttle to teach him a lesson and, before you could say "ARDS", I was approaching the national speed limit in the fast lane. I decided to powershift into overdrive and moved my left foot onto the clutch. Unfortunately, I had forgotten that I was in Mrs T's automatic and, instead of pressing the clutch, I slammed on the anchors instead. The first 10 cars to slew past me must have possessed a modicum of your rare driving skills, Matt. It's no mean feat to deploy the horn and opposite lock, whilst simultaneously discharging enough faecal material to fill a small bucket. When I had stopped I got out to inspect the car for any scuff marks and noticed an ever increasing wedge of twisted metal, wreckage, honking horns and shaking fists behind me, stretching back as far as the eye could see. As the nice policeman checked my vehicle thoroughly for missing offspring (damn those forgotten "Baby on Board" stickers in the window), I explained what had happened. When he'd finished, he patted my head and said "Let that be a lesson to you" before proceeding to reprimand the angry mob who were surrounding my car for not leaving a safe stopping distance in front of them
So, crushed in defeat and consigned to a lifetime of mockery and impotence, I must depart this thread for good now to catch the early train to London. Mrs T says that I need a big "L" for "Loser" henna'd on to my forehead and I'm inclined to agree.


 
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You are [s]very abrasive[/s] an unbearable pillock on these threads, I just wish you weren't.

+1


 
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I ran an R32 for 4 years and have only recently sold it. I loved the car and would highly recommend it if you can afford the fuel economy. I got mine with 14k km on the clock and sold it with 60k km and in that time only had a few minor problems (mainly replacement coil packs when it started running on 5 cylinders). I'm really not sure I'd want one with 55k miles with no history though. I think there's a major service due at 60k miles / 100k km that might be why it's for sale now?? I could be wrong though..
For half of every year I changed to 17" wheels and winter tyres and I have to say it was really impressive in snow too. Just when the front wheels start to slip, the power shifts to the rear and you can exit roundabouts with a little drift* - and all with that gorgeous exhaust noise too..:-) Happy Days.

* After reading some of the previous comments on here whenever someone admits to actually enjoying driving, I should make it clear this was on clear, well-sighted roads at 40-50km/h with no traffic, no cyclists, dogs or toddlers. The Swiss police were contacted in advance and I was provided with a stamped drift certificate 🙂

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I had an R32, didn't do it for me. Whilst the handling was 'OK' (again, not brilliant) you could never really forget about the weight of it. I didn't rate the handling as any better than the S3, the S3 was slightly disconnected (as mentioned above), but my personal opinion is that that is down to weight/weight distribution. The drive wasn't *that* different between the two cars.

I very rarely got more than 200 miles to a tank (don't know the mpg, but it wasn't a lot) and it wasn't particularly quick.

Made a nice noise though.

As for a 55k example with no history, I wouldn't bother. Plenty out there with history, must be a reason its not there.


 
Posted : 28/09/2010 6:50 am
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After reading some of the previous comments on here whenever someone admits to actually enjoying driving

😆


 
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Tinners - fair play to you, your last two posts have been hilarious - nice one!!


 
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[i]Fireblades are ace! Great predictable handling, plenty of go, comfy and well built. [/i]

http://www.hondanews.com/channels/powersports-heritage/photos/honda-s-1963-you-meet-the-nicest-people-ad

[i]only reason I want the Monaro is that I think it looks pretty good, it has a honking great supercharged V8, a manual gearbox and RWD. Plus I don't need to worry about fuel costs as I'm hardly ever here to use one. Might as well before I get too old.... [/i]

At a previous company I worked for I put in for a Monaro - any Vauxhall was allowed at my grade, or big Beemer is what most took. My boss asked me why on earth I wanted one of those little people carrier things (Meriva)?

I nearly got away with it, but a colleague started laughing, and the boss re-checked... Needless to say I had to re-write the form.


 
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