[Closed] Friday A&A

Great start

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Nice variety 😉

I dont get the attraction with her to be honest. Not my type.

You want wings 🙂

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Tenuous one:

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Susie Amy....well she was in Footballers' Wives....

I dont get the attraction with her to be honest. Not my type.

Fussy sod!

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"Unbelievable. If you follow Shleck's line of sight, he's checking out Fuglsang's headset."

From the spoke shirts newsletter. I couldn't stop laughing.

You do realise that you've breached the A&A rules. 🙄

Something for TJ.
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Wouldn't want to degrade women, would we?

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It's A&A TJ - not Readers Wives.

whatever floats your boat tj, it's a broad church here.

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Emilia Fahlin

Druidh - I shall tell julie you said that - unless you sell me a bike cheap

And there it is, the puerile and childish behaviour, good on ya TJ, very mature. 🙄 Why not do the adult thing and just ignore?
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actually, i'm loving the irony here of tj trying to make a statement about the objectification of women and sabotage the thread (after stating his intentions to do so on another thread), by objectifying Ms Ditto as an image of the opposite of attraction.

perpetually offended FAIL

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trailmonkey - whats that wooshing noise?

is it the sound of you failing to realise your epic fail ?

all you're doing is perpetuating the misogynist view of angel or shedevil, at the same time suggesting that you subscribe to it yourself.

As beauty is in the eye of the beholder, there's no problem. What is the associated sport tj?

TJ, quit with the self righteous attempt at censorship. If someone finds the thread offensive, report to the mods.

Oh dear. still wooshing over your head Do you know who beth ditto is? Do you know why I chose her?

Right, now you're going to patronise me and be a mysogonist.

Nice.

Coyote - I far prefer to upset the immature little boys who think this is acceptable and hopefully get them to question their attitudes

Mind you if trailmonkey is anything to go on its pearls before swine.

Trailmonkey - woooooooooooooooosh

I don't know what you mean TJ, I'm no fan of the Kylie or A&A threads as I've stated on the other thread. Why should my attitude be immature or unnaceptable ?

Show me any comments I've made on this or the other thread that should make you claim this.

TJ, answer the question. What is a singer doing on the Athletic and Aesthetic thread?
Why are you so insecure that you can't allow other people to have fun?
Why do you feel that you can call people immature yet not see the immaturity in your own actions?
Why can't you look at a beautiful photo of a beautiful person male or female without thinking about sex? I think you have a problem here.

Did I call you that? You however directly called me several offensive names I am not

I merely stated that you missed the point of why I used Beth ditto.

You have missed the point of why Beth Ditto totally. I suggest you have a read of her opinions

how can it be called objectification of women when most of them are posing for the camera, probably getting paid and know full that it's mostly men that will be looking, if they don't mind why on earth should we?.

Don -= get real and get a life - its slobbering over half naked women with vague attempts to make it acceptable

Just have a read thru.

I like the aesthetic of A&A. Preferably with non provocative clothing - especially on the men 🙂

Page 3 type pics leave me cold.

TJ in not answering the question shocker. FYI I like my women both beautiful and intelligent. I like my photographs and photo with a beautiful person is not a problem. I don't have any problem with the women you find attractive, Why do you have a problem with the women I find attractive?

Did I call you that?

Well, yeah right here

Coyote - I far prefer to upset the immature little boys who think this is acceptable and hopefully get them to question their attitudes

Mind you if trailmonkey is anything to go on its pearls before swine.

Quite obviously suggesting that I have those attitudes and that it would be futile to try to change them.

You however directly called me several offensive names I am not

You have twice on this thread attempted to sabotage ( your own words) proceedings by posting an image of a woman that you obviously feel is unattractive. What Ms Ditto may or may not have said is quite immaterial. You have not quoted her, you have posted images of her and in doing so objectified her in just the same way as any other image poster on the thread and in many ways this is the worst example of mysoginy on the thread.

On womans hour the other day a well spoken 'spokeswoman' was commenting on the fact that if men find woman in 'professional' occupations attire too distracting (referring to complaints from primarily men about woman who dressed 'provocatively' in the office) it was their problem and they had to deal with it!!

Now I don't know about you but when I speak to one of my female colleagues in the office who has a very low cut tee shirt or blouse on I find it very distracting............. 😯

Don - so you like slobbering over half naked women - well there are plenty of websites for that.

Jeezo - I cannot believe what a bunch of ignorant misogynists are on here
You attitude stinks

I could give you a reading list that might help you understand if you would like to

Trailmonkey - I did not call you anything Please read it again. You are being offended for the sake of it now

i merely said there were "immature little boys who think this is acceptable" on this thread. if the hat fits - wear it

What makes you think I think Ditto is unattractive - have I said that? - or is it just your prejudices coming out?

Honestly - just have a think

I shall leave you to it

For crying out loud. Can we just have some pictures of attractive women.

Don - so you like slobbering over half naked women - well there are plenty of websites for that.

Why do you assume I'm slobbering? You are one of the most presumptuous and hypocritical people on here. You are happy to call people immature but can't see the immaturity of your actions.
You bandy about terms like ignorant mysogynists without thinking about who you are talking to.
You tell me to get a life, without knowing the first thing about me.

I accept you find Beth Ditto attractive why can't you accept that I like beautiful and intelligent women attractive without veiled insults? And you still haven't answered my questions. lol

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Emily Batty to get things back to a photo thread.

Don - I don't believe this misogynistic thread is acceptable and have been provocative in pointing it out

By defending it you show you are misogynistic. If you don't understand why it is misogynistic you are at best ignorant.

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Have a good think about what this represents TJ, a good long hard think, because you're the thinker around here, aren't you?

How can you say I'm a mysogynist when you don't know me? Infreakincredible!

This thread is useless without pictures 🙂

Man, what a fuss about a few harmless pictures. If they had an A&A thread on mumsnet do you think they would be arguing like this?

What makes you think I think Ditto is unattractive - have I said that?

Well, if you claim that you are going to sabotage the thread then I can only assume that you are going to post a picture of what you consider to be an unattractive lady in order to counter balance the other images.

If on the other hand you find Ditto attractive then I guess you're as guilty as everyone else of posting pictures of their favourites for their own titilation.

Honestly - just have a think

I shall leave you to it

Couldn't offer you any better advice.

[b]mi·sog·y·nis·tic[/b] (m-sj-nstk) also mi·sog·y·nous (-sj-ns)
adj.

Of or characterized by a hatred of women.

TJ - how silly are you, really?

Don Simon, you really do HATE women, you just don't realise it, a session on the couch with TJ will cure your delusions

Don - your posting the picture represents an immature sexually frustrated misogynist that does not understand respect.

HtH

Emily Batty, both beautiful and a very nice person as I had the pleasure of meeting her a couple of years ago. Of course TJ is too scared to get to know beautiful people and discover that you have to get past the beauty to see the intelligence. Poor, poor narrow minded TJ. 😥

You really are a lost cause. 😆

Don Simon, you really do HATE women, you just don't realise it, a session [u]on the couch with TJ [/u]will cure your delusions

I think this is what he wants and I'm a bit worried. 😕

Trailmonkey - you still are missing the point by miles. I will explain a little.

I used a picture of Beth Ditto as she uses her own image to challenge people and peoples assumptions of beauty. I assumed that the pervers who slobber over the women on this thread would find her appearance upsetting.

really - you lot should be ashamed of yourselves. Are you still twelve years old?

Idave - yes it is misogyny to be slobbering over these scantliy clothed women.

TJ, can you outline why Don hates women based on appreciating their physical appearance? Does that preclude him from liking anything else about them and/or respecting them as human beings? Interested in your thinking here.

If I could be bothered I'd report TJ for being offensive as his arguments offend me, however I can't, so I'll just look at the pictures of pretty ladies.

I might go and look for some pretty pictures of bikes in a bit (although that might mean I hate cycling in all its forms!!)

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Idave - yes it is misogyny to be slobbering over these scantliy clothed women.

what's that based on other than your opinion?

is it misandry for women to like photos of attractive men?

Idave - yes it is misogyny to be slobbering over these scantliy clothed women

You keep making the assumption that people can not look at beauty with out slobbering. I think it is you who is in denial and in fact you who does the slobbering and can only justify this by publicly castigating others (youself) for this sin. It's sick.

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both athletic and aesthetic.

i look at the following image in much the same way:
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obviously i hate women...

(probably racist too)

ahwiles - why do you hate cheetahs so much?

iDave - go read up - you are not going to be convinced by me

I suggest Simone de Beauvoir and Germaine Greer for starters

Its about the lack of respect. Its the objectification of women for their physical characteristics alone. Viewing women as only having value based upon their looks

Its about the lack of respect. Its the objectification of women for their physical characteristics alone.

🙄 Yet you still want to call me a mysogynist after telling you that I appreciate women who are both beautiful and intelligent. You don't even care in your wee quest to know whether I can differentiate between beautiful, made up for the cameras, beautiful and intelligent, intelligent or McDonald eating media whores?

No,no,no get an idea in you head and don't listen to any one else... Tjs got a message and the whole world's going to bored into submission. I need to get a life? I think you should open the Yellow Pages unde 'L' for Life. Also beautiful women speak to me both for my good looks and intelligence. Beautiful women speak to you TJ?

iDave - Member

ahwiles - why do you hate cheetahs so much?

i'm just a grubby pervert.

(and a racist)

I don't normally join in on these threads, although I may have a quick peruse. But I feel strangely compelled to this evening.

Jessica Ennis - Heptathlete.

Great smile and makes me feel all patriotic when she's waving that flag about....

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read the ronnie ancona thread for a classic example

Don - rather than mocking perhpas you could have a think and maybe even read and learn as to why this is unacceptable in a civilised society based upon equality and respect

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Its the objectification of women for their physical characteristics alone

yes because we have no concept or appreciation of the dedication, skill, mental attributes etc that make them champions in sport. we just like tits 🙄

can you answer my question about misandry? do the STW girlies who had their friday thread hate men?

Can't we all just have a nice big hug 🙂

Jenny Jones - pro snowboarder

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[b][Name drop][/b]Went out bowling in Bristol with her couple of weeks before christmas[/name drop]

Its about the lack of respect. Its the objectification of women for their physical characteristics alone. Viewing women as only having value based upon their looks

Now I don't usually get drawn into these debates, but aren't these women first recognised by their sporting achievements and their looks come second.
What is the thinking behind it being unaceptable for someone to appreciate this wonderful coming together of talent and looks.

Got it in one dave. or else these thread would not be full of tit on display

rob2 - Member
Can't we all just have a nice big hug

No, because that would be purely physical objectivication and shows that you obviously have no respect for anyone apart from their physical bits. You male pig. Stop looking at my moobs..... 😛

OK folks, who would you rather as a role model for your kids?
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TJ, I love all women and don't judge them on looks alone, yet you appear to be scared of beauty. Perhaps it's you who is the mysogynist? Did you have a bad experience when you were younger? Did the school beauty tell you to **** off? You appear to be the blinkered one. Perhaps it is you who needs to drop the books and get out there and speak to some beautiful (physically and intellectually) women?

I really appreciate the way that emsz and TJ have, between them, ensured that this post stays on page 1 of the forum.

Well done chaps (and chapesses).

I've always liked this picture of Shanaze Reade:
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Don do you really not understand? Are you that stupid?

Druidh - as ever you are right - its a total waste of time challenging these stupid immature children for their unpleasant misogynistic behaviour

I really appreciate the way that emsz and TJ have, between them, ensured that this post stays on page 1 of the forum.

And the only reason I came here was because you mentioned it earlier, oh the irony... 😆

TJ, I think accusations of mysogeny are perhaps taking it a little too far...

BTW Jessica Ennis is looking pretty damn good. If I was to pick a role model for my daughter from the above it would probably be Emily, Victoria or Jessica.

Beth Ditto on the other hand? Please refer to the thread concerning who is responsible for kids being so fat they qualify for a post code.

Damn, I fell for a TJ troll