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Didn't know they did comedy in the Lords 😆
Yup made me laugh that too.
"Oh yes send it to the NE no one lives there which means nothing can be ruined."
typical fracking southerner
Ive got a left leaning friend who lives in that barren wasteland and her expletive filled rant on facebook about this was quite amusing
In the words of Sir Humphrey Appleby
"I'm aghast!"
😯
Go and read the comments below the story on the Telegraph page. Even more funny / worrying.
Ive got a left leaning friend who lives in that barren wasteland and her expletive filled rant on facebook about this was quite amusing
Was it the thought of having a job? 😯
Desolate...
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Yup it's just wasteland.
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It's awful, stay away.
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Yup crowded polluted beaches.
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Same beach, different angle
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And the locals are deeply unfriendly
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Errmmm! No it's not.
Same beach, different angle
What's all that scaffolding doing up on the castle?
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And at night 🙂
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Locals are old goats.
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Family holiday there in a week's time. I'm shocked to learn that it's a desolate wasteland. What tyres for a post-apocalyptic nightmare?
Keep away oldnpastit it's like a scene from Mad Max
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Snap!
What an utter **** that idiot is. How do people so utterly ****ing stupid get to such positions of power? It really is ver depressing. Osbournes FIL too....
Good cos we dont want it on Mendip it could ruin our caves !!!!!!!!!!!
Jokes aside They say women are attracted to blokes like their dads and Osbourne is a total stroker as well
Makes sense though, less population density and a lot of land that is of little value where the impact would be minimal, not forgetting the jobs that would be created for the numerous unemployed residing in the north of England.
MrSmith - Member
Makes sense though, less population density and a lot of land that is of little value where the impact would be minimal, not forgetting the jobs that would be created for the numerous unemployed residing in the north of England.
Less population density but also the place where there are lots of unemployed? Sort your scale out.
Also, 'land that is of little value' is incredibly subjective. Are you referring to the National Park and SSSIs, or the farmland which is a living for many farmers?
MrSmith.... google "ecosystem services" read, have a think and then get back to us.
Makes sense though, less population density and a lot of land that is of little value where the impact would be minimal, not forgetting the jobs that would be created for the numerous unemployed residing in the north of England.
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Around eight per cent of the land in North East is urban. About three per cent of the North East region is covered by very good quality agricultural land and 39 per cent by good or moderate quality agricultural land. Nearly 80% of agricultural land in the North East is under some sort of agri-environment management which is an indicator of the extent to which land is being managed in a sustainable way.
The Environment Agency's state of the environment report published in 2011 estimated that 5,700 hectares of brownfield/contaminated land in the region is either derelict, vacant or is in use with the potential for development. Between 2006-2009, 62% of new properties (on average) were built on previously developed land, compared to the average for England over the same period of 76%. The 2004 sustainability appraisal recorded 51% of housing built on brownfield sites between 1989-1993, and 59% between 1999-2002.
So not a high proportion of prime agricultural land and 5700 hectares doing very little. So an ideal candidate for gas exploration compared to most areas in the south.
Source:[url= https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/11205/north_east.pdf ]https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/11205/north_east.pdf[/url]
.The North East covers 8,600 square kilometers (sq km) and is the second smallest region in England after London. In 2010, the North East had a population of around 2.6 million, making it the least populous region in the country with 5% of the English total4. The local authority area with the largest population was County Durham and fewest people lived in Hartlepool.
The population of the region grew by just over 2% between 2000 and 2010. This is considerably slower than the average pace of population growth across England (6%).
Overall, 281 of the 10% most deprived Lower Layer Super Output Areas (LLSOAs)5 in England are located in this region.
The North East has 1,656 LLSOAs in total and 17% (281) of all its LLSOAs are amongst the 10% most deprived in England. The North East has a greater proportion of its LLSOAs in the most deprived quintile (32.7%) of any region in England. In all, 32% of the North East’s population live in these most deprived areas – the highest of any English region
So in need of job opportunities
Let the copy and paste wars commence.
Best of a bad job, might aswell get on with it.
One doesn't cut & paste in the northeast, one "drags & drops". This I learnt at Teesside university.
MrSmith - MemberSo not a high proportion of prime agricultural land and 5700 hectares doing very little. So an ideal candidate for gas exploration compared to most areas in the south.
Much of that sub-prime agricultural land is in the national park or covers some sort of other environmentally protected area. As for the brownfield, that's an area smaller than Guernsey made up of pockets of land in mostly urban areas, and probably not near the gas deposits - i'm pretty sure there is more than that in the south east. Also, google anagallis_arvensis' suggestion.
One doesn't cut & paste in the northeast, one "drags & drops". This I learnt at Teesside university[b], in Yorkshire. [/b]
FTFY.
Why dont they frack under Big Ben, theyt could easily disguise it, and then there is canary wharf same there.
Both pointless employnment agencies, and we might as well make some use of the empty buildings.
They should frack in A.SalmondLand ... 😆
What an utter * that idiot is. How do people so utterly * stupid get to such positions of power?
In the case of David Howell initially by voters freely electing him, that's how.
And can't see what is particularly shocking about an Eton educated Tory talking and behaving like an Eton educated Tory.
hang on, whats population density got to do with it? why shouldn't they frack anywhere? after all its completely safe...isn't it?
Surely the correct response should be - "you could have had gas reserves to spare and a thriving carbon extraction based economy in the NE, but 25 years ago your lot decided to shut the deep coal mines, remove the pumps and allow them to flood - closing them forever, whilst simultaneously removing legislation allowing gas powered electricity generation. Your generation's politically motivated spite and lack of forethought got us into this mess, and now your lot oppose wind and other renewable energy sources that can get us out of it, and want to frack here instead"
The New Statesman wades in:
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http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/07/top-10-most-desolate-places-north-east
Why dont they frack under Big Ben
http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2009/05/31/jubilee-line-tunnels-under-big-ben/
"It's completely safe" doesn't play well with "but we have to stick it somewhere there's not too many people". Hardly a revelation this, but always worth bearing in mind.
fought so hard to keep t'pits open, should welcome fracking.
Was it the thought of having a job?
Now that's funny...
Just me then 😉
And can't see what is particularly shocking about an Eton educated Tory talking and behaving like an Eton educated Tory.
Quite. One should have very low expectations of such people.
What people seem to be missing here is you have to frack where the bloody shale gas is. You cant just drill down stick a bloody tap in and start pumping it out FFS. Its to do with geology innit! The biggest reserves might just be in Oxfordshire or Buckinghamshire.
I will absolutely guarantee no suitable reserves will be found under any London politicians house.
Nah, best reserves will be under poor people's houses. They always are. Funny that isn't it?
you have to frack where the bloody shale gas is
You don't [i]have[/i] to frack anywhere...
I will absolutely guarantee no suitable reserves will be found under any London politicians house.Nah, best reserves will be under poor people's houses. They always are. Funny that isn't it?
Not surprising. Best = cheapest to extract, rich people tend to cost a lot to fight.
Nah, best reserves will be under poor people's houses. They always are. Funny that isn't it?
I take you have never been to Balcombe in West Sussex then? A more posh Tory heartland you would struggle to find, i think the locals may feel a little betrayed!
You don't grasp the seriousness of the domestic energy security problem. Who here does not rely on the russian gas to heat their homes and to cook? like any deep extraction process, it can be done while minimising risk and disruption to life on the surface. Nimbys will change their minds when there is no heating, they cant drive anywhere, and the lights go out. None of This solves our medium to long term climate change problem though. It's a stopgap but a necessary one IMO.
It's unfortunate this this has turned into a stupid north south political football.
Who here does not rely on the russian gas to heat their homes and to cook?
So what ?
People need to use less energy. That's what really needs to happen. Couple of wooly jumpers, walking places, not firing up seventeen tellys.
Do all that and we won't need russian gas or iraqi oil.
Oh. Sorry, I see the problem now, we live in a country full of selfish, stupid people.
[i]It's unfortunate this this has turned into a stupid north south political football. [/i]
I've seen the official fracking map. It isn't focused on the south. I could be wildly off course and I accept that, but on an island that is a mere few hundred miles high, I'm struggling to accept that all the UK's oil, coal, nuclear, gas and poo is north of Birmingham. Really?
It's all basically a backfire. "Let's burn less fossil fuels" was the idea, but "because it's *ing up the planet" was hard to sell to a certain flavour of total *, who didn't really care if the world goes on fire after they're dead.
So a second front was opened up, "because we'll run out soon". That worked for a bit, but then unfortunately the sort of total **** who ignored the first reason, saw the loophole in the second reason and started extracting gas and oil from wherever it could be found- blowing up rocks, scavenging tar sands, drilling in wilderness and pushing to dig up the antartic... They'd stick an nodding donkey on their son's head if there was baby oil in there.
(and name him Derek)
So, instead of cutting down on fossil burning, we're going to end up burning even more, and making even more of a mess while we do it. Hurrah!
MrSmith.... google "ecosystem services" read, have a think and then get back to us.
Y'know what, A_A, we might just have found something we agree on
Y'know what, A_A, we might just have found something we agree on
OMGZ...who'd have though such a man can think like me....the great zokes.
The thing that really pisses me off about this is the tax break stupid George has given the fracking companies, if we really need the gas and it is the only way then reluctantly i would say we should do it but there should be green taxes on it and the money earmarked for investment into green energy sources. Does anyone actually believe for one minute that giving these companies a tax break will lower household energy bills at all? Just more profits for the same old people and no doubt a healthy donation to the Tories 2015 re-election fund 🙄
Looks like its all OK he actually meant the NW so we’re saved.
Ah that's ok then. I take it you mean the bit between the lakes and Birmingham.
samuri - Member
I will absolutely guarantee no suitable reserves will be found under any London politicians house.
wanna bet? - landowners stand to make squillions, and fortunately, gas extraction requires fewer of those noisy, grubby, workers.
roughly: coal = work for workers, gas = money for landowners.
there's something about the tories that makes me want to [s]join a union[/s] build a guilotine and join the revolution.
Bowland would be more precise.
I thought most of this shale gas stuff was centred around Blackpool? And to be fair you'd be hard pushed to make Blackpool look any more apocalyptic
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NE or NW the supposed low population levels and remoteness would probably be a heaving cosmopolitan metropolis compare to the parts of the states currently being fracked.
This is just one of those Mr Toad moments and the UK government is currently going poop poop as the fracking juggernaut roles by. I mean pumping water at high pressure into the ground that has quite a lot of geological fault lines and is riddled with mines is never going to end well.
This I learnt at Teesside university.
You went to Teesside uni and learnt something!!!!
Looks like its all OK he actually meant the NW so we’re saved.
thank dear god
If there's shale gas under Bucks they can use the HS2 construction sites. At least the locals might get something out of it (unlike HS2).
I mean whats the worst that could happen......
They find Shale Gas in the SE...
At least the locals might get something out of it (unlike HS2).
Surely the satisfaction of knowing they are helping re-balance this great nations economy, so its less south east-centric, and the engine of growth, and the dynamic spirit of free enterprise can once again return to the provincial cities of the north, is reward enough in itself?
they can't frack in the south! its full of pricks and the gas will escape 😆
equally, its the north, nobody cares about the north apart from northerners so frack it all, frack it all i say!
Surely the satisfaction of knowing they are helping re-balance this great nations economy, so its less south east-centric, and the engine of growth, and the dynamic spirit of free enterprise can once again return to the provincial cities of the north, is reward enough in itself?
Really?
Struth, if I'd known there was anything in it for Northerners I'd have campaigned against it! I just thought it was to allow the rich Southerners quick access to the NW so the can lord it over the peasants and still get back in time for afternoon tea and medals.
ff - Only kidding. Its actually so rich southerners can buy up all the property in the Peak District, and get to their second homes really, really quickly at the weekend
I have a strange stirring in my loins. I think this'll be the stw thread to end them all!
I have a strange stirring in my loins.
Fracking does that.
Ahh go frack yourself. It's a great word
Actually, I re-read the report. This helpful image tells us where they *know* shale gas is but also where they think it might be. Where's that bottom circle? It's hard to tell. Looks like it might be round a large city of some description. FRACK AWAY BABY!
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What's needed is less people.