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The puffer weather thread says latest reply one hour ago but the latest reply is two days old when you open the thread, unless it's just because I'm still on ie11

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Ok, that worked, but the BBCode link from Flickr did not. Any ideas? Also the preview does not work for me either.

My experiments with Flickr so far suggest that the picture bit of the BBCode link provided by Flickr works, but if you keep the hyperlink wrapping it fails and your message won't post.

So the text you get from Flickr is in the format:

(url=some URL)(img)picture's URL(/img)(/url)(url=picture's page URL)Picture Title(/url) by (url=your Flickr page's URL)Flickr username(/url)

If you just keep the bit between and including the img tags it should work:

[img] [/img]

However if you leave the URLs in it doesn't. I have performed enough experiments yet to work out whether it's the URLs themselves that's causing a problem, or if it's wrapping an image within a URL that's bad.

Why on earth can i not post in the classifieds, keeps going in the same bloody loop. spent 20 mins trying to post something and just not working

Experimenting with Flickr links:

[url= https://flic.kr/p/pFS8Kz ]AT-AT Arriving[/url]

Another experiment with Flickr links:

[url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/thinkingengine/ ]Chris[/url], on Flickr

Edit: What looks like a perfectly normal URL to my Flickr page seems to upset the forum software at the moment. Trying to include multiple bits of the Flickr BBCode link was doing that too, though except for this bit the individual parts seem to work.

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The puffer weather thread says latest reply one hour ago but the latest reply is two days old when you open the thread, unless it’s just because I’m still on ie11

I'm seeing the opposite too. Threads that I know have replies are showing none, and if you try to get to it it's a dead link.

Also, why are the tags showing below the reply box like I'm adding them?

EDIT: looks like I can remove the tags just by deleting them from the Tags box

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Tags?

yup

What I find most disconcerting, is, in Chrome, when you hit submit, the load page button doesn't move, or change to a X

You just see the 'waiting for singlblah' in the status bar. I've never seen a site do that before before before

It's rubbish

dunno if it's been mentioned but clicking on some of the for sale posts takes you to the coffee cup

Topic I am engaged in on the Forums link is complete rubbish.

A heck of an upgrade this, not sure I've ever seen anything as bad 🙂

[quote=scotroutes ]Tags?

Testing the Flikr BBCode again. I also noticed that my previous post are now deleted from the thread, even though they were included in a reply.

[img] [/img]

That works then. It was just the code including the [img] and delete the rest of the line.

Next issue, but it may be already known, is that the preview button does not preview.
I also get the coffee cup and page not found for quite a few thread posts.

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You just see the ‘waiting for singlblah’ in the status bar

Slightly similar, in Edge browser the page tab title is just "Waiting for response from singletrackworld.com...", always.

Though Edge has been doing that a fair bit recently on a number of sites. I think if there's any background stuff going on it says that. Didn't used to. Though most sites it eventually gets there and shows the title.

Also... Subscriber is a bit meh. Diminishes the power of the 'P' 😀

WTF have you done to the forum ?

I'm seeing when people post quotes there is just a load of 'script' 🙁

When writing a post like this, where's the top bar for posting images, URL's, changing font etc. etc.

Was it even tested ?

Giving up trying to post in the classifieds. No idea what I'm doing wrong (if anything).

Honestly, it's like folks don't read the initial update from Mark then prattle on all day whining "i dunna work, no like green, huh why no posty pictures"

Why not just wait until it's all finished eh.

You don't expect people to actually read any other posts but their own, do you!?

Why not just wait until it’s all finished eh.

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing myself 🙄

Honestly, it’s like folks don’t read the initial update from Mark then prattle on all day whining “i dunna work, no like green, huh why no posty pictures”

Why not just wait until it’s all finished eh.

That’s all well and good, but it’s the basic functionality of the forum that’s ****ed. The ability to create a post with a photo or two is very, very basic stuff.

I can see a very long and detailed tutorial on how to use the forum in the futures of the web team. But that will be a typical response of “well I can do it, it’s not hard!”

Firefox on android has some weird stuff going on.

A test server is surely a better way to do this?

It's ok to drop the new version on the production server when its only used by you and your mates but I think STW can surely afford a second server?

I don't mind doing consultancy in exchange for a tour of some nice mtb trails around STW towers.

I take it the greasemonkey personal blacklist script will no longer work.

I know it isn't part of the forum just an external add on, but it does save my sanity.

“<span style="color: #444444; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Why not just wait until it’s all finished eh.”</span>

Seems like a sensible thing to do before launching half finished software

Why not just wait until it’s all finished eh.

this is the new era of devops where the end users are the testers...

Of course we are testers, we're part of it don't forget.

But whining because a number of issues, well documented and reasoned for, seems pointless until the forum has been properly updated..

Just seems odd to me.

But whining because a number of issues, well documented and reasoned for, seems pointless until the forum has been properly updated..

Just seems odd to me.

I don't think the issue have been well-documented - must have missed it.

it does seem a lot of breakages though - assuming a normal route of doing a test upgrade and then testing it all on a test server first, there must have been something really messed up when they did the actual upgrade.

I'm guessing no test upgrade and test cycle first, just try it and see.

I guess you have haven’t read any of the thread, other than a few posts on this page.

But whining because a number of issues, well documented and reasoned for, seems pointless until the forum has been properly updated..

Did you miss the bit where Mark asked us to report any issues? Or that some of them aren't "well documented" at all - and are in fact still being discovered?

I didn’t miss that no, obviously. Marks already offered up reasons for some issues, says they’re working on stuff and left this place open whilst they complete what is probably quite a complex set of procedures..

Just document the issues and leave the whining out until Marks says “right, here it is”

He’s already mentioned the Tech boys are dropping in to check on issues..

It's looking a lot nicer on an iPad than it was last night. Plus it's keeping me logged on! That makes the whole exercise worthwhile on its own for me 🙂

Keep reporting what you like and don’t like. We have a list 🙂

Keep reporting what you like and don’t like. We have a list

Have you looked at it lately?  I've been busy. (-:  That's about half of it so far.

Ooh, the avatars have gone!

Are there plans to reinstate the 'forum activity' feature? Ta.

Yep. Forum activity feature was really good as could review postings. Also if you do a search it searches the whole site rather than say just the classifieds

This is the single most important thing for me

[img] [/img]

I can't cope with Amerikkkan spels

I guess this puts to bed the idea that MTBs and IT expertise are related in any way

Probably right, I can't ride for shit.

“Honestly, it’s like folks don’t read the initial update from Mark then prattle on all day whining “i dunna work, no like green, huh why no posty pictures”

Why not just wait until it’s all finished eh.”
The ability to easily post quotes, pics, etc, are a fundamental part of how the forum works!
None of those things seem to work, at least on iOS, so there’s an obvious reaction to that lack of functionality.
Some people seem to be able to post quotes and pics, I have no idea at all how they’re doing it, unless they’re actually creating the codes without the buttons usually at the top of the comments box.
At least the green has been made darker, but I feel it could be slightly darker still, the lighter font is still difficult to read even on my pad without my reading glasses, when I tried on my phone earlier I just could not read the green text, unless I turned it into landscape format and zoomed the page.

Plenty of IT folks on here who do releases differently to this, THM

Personally I'm just whining because there are other ways to test a half-finished product than on your end users (and no, nothing Mark has said explains why it had to happen like this)

The ability to easily post quotes, pics, etc, are a fundamental part of how the forum works!

True.

 I have no idea at all how they’re doing it, unless they’re actually creating the codes without the buttons usually at the top of the comments box.

The buttons are at the top for some users, but not all.  I'm not sure why.

Or me as I use iOS.

Well, from my point of view, the formatting in iOS seems to be sorted - I can browse the forums on my phone again (just in time to go back to work tomorrow! 😉 )

Haven’t tried any further quotes etc but from the ‘my wheel fell apart today’ thread they’re clearly still an issue...

I can' post words with apostrophes it isn' working plus I still can' see all of the text box. Samsung internet on android on galaxy s7

You can’t post apostrophes?

If I type using my normal manner on mobile device it removed the letters after the apostrophes such as CAN' WASN' ISN' etc

And I can' see all of the text box and it won' scroll back to the left once I've typed in to the right side

Testing on my mobile iPhone 7 to see if I can’t use apostrophes.

That was fixed this afternoon Scotroutes.

Oh no it wasn't!!

/* end pantomime voice

(Unless, of course, it's not supposed to open a dialogue box like it used to?)

Now it's disappeared from Drac's port too.

Mmmmm! Port.

And yes no box has opened for me either.

We shall add it to the ze list.

Ok third time lucky. It' a galaxy s7 on android latest update using the Samsung internet tab. That' the third time I've included that info. Oh and that apostrophe on I've worked because it was more than one letter after the apostrophe.

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Keep reporting what you like and don’t like. We have a list

Right, where is the list, what's the bug tracker? You guys reading a forum post is a rubbish system for this sort of stuff.

I hope at this point nobody is going to admit there was a test version of this because its nowhere near ready for deployment.

Also what's coming up in the next update?

Edit as you can see can't even see what I have quoted, android/chrome

The list is accessible by those who need to access it and we can add to it as we read posts on here or spot them during our own testing.

Yup other grumpy people have said that.

I do hope there are a lot of fixes coming and a lot of good new features

I'm not privy to what's coming next but I know that the old forum prevented new features.  This was discussed earlier.  The old software was a rat's nest of code making maintenance a nightmare, and most "new features" plug-ins require a version of BBpress that was written since the turn of the Millennium.

I've seen requested changes implemented inside of a couple of hours today that would've taken weeks on the previous codebase.  Whilst the UX could be better currently, that's a paradigm shift for the forum.

im sorry for saying this, flame me if you must. i miss the old fourm.

<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 12.8px; background-color: #eeeeee;">im sorry for saying this, flame me if you must. i miss the old fourm.</span>

Earlier today,  my tablet briefly lost interwebular connection, and I saw the old, downloaded page. For a moment, I felt a brief frisson of delight that things would work again.

Alas,  the connection returned, and this cluster reappeared.

I'm not angry. Just disappointed.

Alas,  the connection returned, and this cluster reappeared.

It's mainly spoiled by people who can't quote properly

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im sorry for saying this, flame me if you must. i miss the old fourm.

All of a sudden it becomes clear why so many were opposed to modernising the forum.

ETA: aopologies for the above; what a cluster ****!

Are you not embarrassed?

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Alas,  the connection returned, and this cluster reappeared.

It’s mainly spoiled by people who can’t quote properly

I must be one of those people.

I mean, it's not like I can quote properly on EVERY OTHER ****ING FORUM ON THE INTERNET.

But no, carry on, well done.

(There's a slow hand clap smiley on other forums)

How? Unicode not-bracket lookalikes?

unicode 'o' and 'i' - I'm not doing hardcore unicode hacking though, they're copied and pasted from character map. I thought we'd done this before when I evaded the swear filter with ΙBTL 😉 (to save you checking it's a unicode 'I' there).

I’m not privy to what’s coming next but I know that the old forum prevented new features. This was discussed earlier. The old software was a rat’s nest of code making maintenance a nightmare, and most “new features” plug-ins require a version of BBpress that was written since the turn of the Millennium.

None of that is news - as I posted earlier, moving to an up to date system is well overdue, and something I'd certainly been pushing for for years if not decades. All the customisation was just stupid when features were readily available in modern forum software. And yes I do understand why it wasn't an easy process and one that had been put off for so long - in a way I'm surprised that we will actually get the
new forum we were promised in about 2006 (and we can finally put those jokes to bed), I didn't think I'd live to see it! I still don't understand why it had to be implemented like this though. I daresay in a year, if not a few months this changeover will have mostly been forgotten, but it is offputting to members (and subscribers) to have to go through what I can only describe as alpha testing (it's nowhere near the standard I'd even release to beta), and doubtless it will live on as an STW meme.

Jeez, it's almost like some people are getting a little turned on with their repetitive whinging. If I could do a rolling eyes emoticon, it would be here...

Oh, hold on.... Phwoooaaarrrr!

Actually... 😉

I've not got the reply buttons, and the ****blocker isn't working anymore.

unicode ‘o’ and ‘i’

Aha, yes.  And I do remember, I was overthinking it.

yes I do understand why it wasn’t an easy process and one that had been put off for so long

Mark explained earlier in this thread.  A succession of devs doing their own thing.  I have similar at work, I have an off-corporate network which has been open to all our engineers, the config for the Internet router alone is like 14 pages.

I still don’t understand why it had to be implemented like this though

Well, you and me both, but here we are.  Speculating, I suspect there may have been an element of "just do it" by this point.

Nope

This thread is no longer a sticky?

Like it

What sort of fresh hell is this?

What do all the buttons do? I can't get anything to happen when i press the exploding pill one.

Also, can we get a "Dominate" button for kinksters?

I tried to report your post stumpy so at least someone can see those issues. It' still the same this morning. Some of the previous posters just think you are making things up when giving constructive criticism. Typing a response is as you say a right pain in the arse!

I have some blank squares and what looks like a golf hole/flag.... ⛳️

oh, and a rise? 🌹

que?

eTA: I know it’s early 😉 but that should say rose

iOS btw

🆕

🤷‍♂️

Just noticed another issue- your database port is corrupt.

I was flicking back up the the Halfords Eagle PSA thread on the Bike forum and was struck by my last comment on it. Half of what’s there I never said - you’ve concatenated records.  I’m assuming that it’s not just two comments on one thread that’s affected.