Forum crashing Safari. Again.

Cool story bro.

FWIW, no such issues on my ~11yo MacBook Air, or iPhone.

Safari seems to be working fine for me on my Macbook Pro.

I mainly used Chrome though.

it crashes Google Chrome on my PC occasionally.

Given the comparative full / free member experiences it's presumably a problematic ad or ad networks rather than the site itself. Safari user on desktop and phone and no issues.

Does not crash, but I only keep this site open for as short a time as possible. Fans going mental right now.  singletrackworld.com may help next week when it gets cold again.

2.0% cpu load here, most of which is the browser.
Just had to climb under the table to check the fan was still actually running, to make sure it wasn't actually stopped due to dust bunnies.
But then that's Brave not Safari.

FWIW, no such issues on my ~11yo MacBook Air, or iPhone.

Cool story bro.

I don't know why people persist with Safari. It's idiosyncratic on a good day and notoriously temperamental with STW. Use something else.

The only website I visit that gives me the message "This website is using significant energy...."

Some of us are perfectly happy with safari and its a strange notion that we should use something else when this is the only website that gives issues

Chrome is selling out humanity to mass surveillance.
Edge gives me the ick for similar reasons.
Chromium was vanished into Chrome murk.
Brave is piracy.
Firefox is clunky.
Safari just works and is reasonably private, popular, and generally well-supported.

What browsers have I missed?

@Cougar well for a start it doesn't suck my battery dry like Chrome did (does?),

STW is the only website that I've come across that does it to it.

notoriously temperamental with STW. Use something else.

Get the tail to wag the dog?

Being asked on every page, once again, to allow singletrack to use up to 2.5GB of memory. Otherwise behaving itself.

I gave up trying to use STW with Safari on a Mac Book Pro and just fire up Chrome if I want to argue about e-bikes, coffee machines, Boris Johnson etc. It's slightly irksome, but better than listening to the whining fan as my computer enters some sort of super-heating death spiral. I realise that this is not ST's problem and is entirely my fault for using 'the wrong browser', but numerous other sites seem to handle it perfectly well. 

I'd love to be able to provide a brilliant solution, but if there is one, I don't know what it is. Just use Chrome is my advice.

I don’t know why people persist with Safari. It’s idiosyncratic on a good day and notoriously temperamental with STW. Use something else.

Safari is the second most used browser globally and it's one of the most consistent and stable browsers I've come across. So I suspect most people would see this the other way round, to the detriment of STW -

I don’t know why people persist with STW. It’s idiosyncratic on a good day and notoriously temperamental with Safari. Use something else.

No problem or performance issues in accessing STW on Safari, Chrome or Firefox on MacBook Pro.

I've been checking all day. It's reliably causing my fan to spin up, and then if I leave it open for longer than 15-20 minutes then Safari starts crashing. On other sites it's rock solid.

I'm willing to bet that it's chewing through data on mobile as well, which will be putting some people off too.

its a strange notion that we should use something else when this is the only website that gives issues

and

Get the tail to wag the dog?

and others.

Sure, I get this. You shouldn't have to, I agree. But in lieu of a fix coming server-side - unlikely over the weekend if at all - you could either try something which might resolve the issue or you can sit there acting the martyr.

Safari is the second most used browser globally

An impressive claim conveniently ignoring the fact that the the first most used browser globally holds somewhere between two thirds and three quarters of the market share (depending whose stats you look at).

Not being a martyr, just giving feedback.

unexpected side benefit - i have to close STW when using my computer for work as I can't run STW at the same time as juicier applications. a perf nerf becomes a perf boost

Brave is piracy

Tell me more (as I use Brave for STW even though I'm a full member so don't get plagued by ads anyway)

I don’t know why people persist with Safari. It’s idiosyncratic on a good day and notoriously temperamental with STW.

Never any problem for me with Safari on my old MacBook Pro or current Air.

Tell me more (as I use Brave for STW even though I’m a full member so don’t get plagued by ads anyway)

Very much tongue in cheek, but in the sense that using it is very much a rejection of an implied contract that presumes that the current quid pro quo of being tracked and analysed for marketing and political manipulation purposes in exchange for access to content. I use Brave myself, alongside Safari, Firefox, and an occasional Chrome incognito session exclusively for the handful of irritatingly indispensable Google services embedded in my life.

I don’t know why people persist with Safari. It’s idiosyncratic on a good day and notoriously temperamental with STW. Use something else.

Yes its the modern Internet Explorer 6 replacement. Everytime someone complains a website doesnt work, I check if they are using Safari, laugh at them, then suggest something that actually does the job!

Anyone having probs should try an android phone and chrome. No issues for me for about 15 years I think

Brave is piracy.

Very much tongue in cheek, but in the sense that using it is very much a rejection of an implied contract that presumes that the current quid pro quo of being tracked and analysed for marketing and political manipulation purposes in exchange for access to content. I use Brave myself, alongside Safari, Firefox, and an occasional Chrome incognito session exclusively for the handful of irritatingly indispensable Google services embedded in my life.

I have no idea what that means.

Yes its the modern Internet Explorer 6 replacement. Everytime someone complains a website doesnt work, I check if they are using Safari, laugh at them, then suggest something that actually does the job!

Cool story, bro’. 🤷🏼🙄

FWIW, I’ve been using Safari for about 21 years, first on a Mac, and on an iPhone since the 3G, then a couple of iPads and apart from a period last year, I’ve never had issues. I also use Brave, Ghostery, Firefox, and DuckDuckGo, with DuckDuckGo as search on all of them. I’ve never used Chrome and never will. I’ve also got Opera, but I don’t really get on with it. Generally speaking, I seldom get any significant issues. The shonky formatting that chucks in random bits of code still turns up occasionally when I edit a post, but it’s nothing like as bad as it was.