[Closed] For everyone who has had a long haul flight next to the mahossive sweaty bloke

About time I reckon. 100kgs per person, including luggage. There are so few advantages to being small !

I weigh 100kg, without clothes. And I'm not fat, I lost the padding round the middle I reckon the least I could get down to healthily would be 90.

hels are you a tiny person?

For everyone who has had a long haul flight next to the mahossive sweaty bloke

that's no way to talk about CFH

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Shower curtain rings, anyone?

I once flew back from Florence, and as we were boarding the plane, an Aircraft Mechanic was fettling the seat next to me. He was actually removing the armrest between the centre and window seat, to make a large bench seat. The last person on was an enormous whale of a woman, who must have been at least 35 stone. She sat right next to me and proceeded to struggle around for 20 mins to take off her trainers...ewww.

Another woman across the aisle then tapped me on the shoulder and asked me if I'd mind swapping with her son as he was young and they hadn't got seats next to each other. I've never moved so fast.

I guess in a round about way I'm saying this has my full support.

If I have to pay in accordance with my size then goddamnit I want leg room!

Tall people will weigh more than shorter people so how is being penalised for something out of your control fair?
Obviously you can do something about being a biffa but not a lanky.

So you want to pay by weight AND height then? Even better 😉

^^^^^^ 😀
That is all.

What they need is a person sized... [img] [/img]

how is being penalised for something out of your control fair

Like being overweight?

So people will have to get weighed in? Can't see this taking off... But if it does I'd like there be an alarm that goes off for real heavy weights please.

Pik n Mix - Member
Tall people will weigh more than shorter people so how is being penalised for something out of your control fair?
Obviously you can do something about being a biffa but not a lanky.

The cost to the airline is directly related to weight though. It's not being penalised, it's just the way it is.
As a tall person myself, I don't feel victimised that I have to pay for twice as much food as some other people.

I do.

But then I am a staggering hungry person. The downside of this is children will be cheap, and so according to market forces planes will full of children, kicking the backs of seats, crying, being... you know, children.

Can't see this taking off

Like what you did there

I like this idea, it will make taking my kids on holiday miles cheaper as the only weigh 15kg and 24kg! bring it on! flights full of small kids... paying less...especially on long haul yay! 🙂

how is being penalised for something out of your control fair

What like subsidising fat folks like I do now you mean?

Hmmmm, I think Samoans are ginormas though aren't they? They come near the top in every survey regarding obesity levels, and I think they're talking smaller aircraft where the weight makes a bigger difference.

[i][s]Tall[/s][b]Short[/b] people will weigh [s]more[/s][b]less[/b] than [s]shorter[/s][b]taller[/b] people so how is being penalised for something out of your control fair?[/i]

See what I did there?

Great idea - I'm sure planes will be a much happier place once they are full of passengers who haven't eaten anything for 48 hours.

Especially if you further enhance their mood by publicly humiliating them at the [s]check[/s][i]Weigh[/i] In desk.

It could be combined with a weight watchers style congratulations when people weight a few pounds than the last time they flew.

The price is unlikely to be dramatically different unless someone really needs two seats then they need to pay twice the amount of a norm.

Do you guys even read these posts? I clearly said you can do something about being overweight and I'm well up for charging the fatties. Tall people however will get penalised for something that they can't do anything about.

tipping the scales at a mammoth 67 kg it is a yes for me 😉

I guess planes fly by weight so it is not that unreasonable. Perhaps some banding to make it fairer?

I'm 5ft nothing. Time for some revenge on all you buggers who can reach things in cupboards and see out of the back of the car properly to reverse ! I need to stand on a box to use the peep hole on the front door.

I got sat next to a biffer once, when I was down at 50kgs. (er not that small any more) I might be small but I can make a lot of noise, and his fat was hanging right over into my seat. They moved me without too much fuss, I think they were just chancing it.

And you could have a special area with mini seats for kids. Sound proof it and pump sedatives in. The airlines would fit even more people in this way. Or you could just put them in the hold.

This has my support. Let's face it, costing differences will be relatively minor for most healthy adults & when travelling even as a couple, will balance out against standard ticket prices. If travelling with kids, then there should be a benefit. Maybe if Berm Bandit had to pay a full ticket price for a 2 year old child, then have the airline squeeze (quite literally) someone into the next seat & spill across half of your childs seat & be grumpy about the fact that your child bumped into them (in the seat you've paid for), then perhaps that would alter your opinion?
Mid -flight after much aggro & child unable to settle as so squashed into one side of seat, I offered to help the "gentleman" consume his lunch, tray & all if he didn't shut up & move.
If the airline were to state he had to have two seats & they were paid for, then he can "spread" all he wants on [u]his[/u] seats. If paying by weight only, then stick to your own seat.

As someone who even at racing weight and 7% body fat was still 80kg I'm really trying to be outraged by this, but I can't! It just makes sense - like it or lump it, it costs more to heft me across the planet than it does some skinny dwarf. Passenger body weight does make a mockery of all this weighing baggage and being charged for an extra kg when some gezzer is packing 30kg of extra pies around their middle and not paying for it.

edit - but if I'm going to pay for my weight I'll damn well expect a bit more space! Seats designed like those gauge things they used to measure your feet in the shoe shop so we all get the same amount of space around us!

I'm 5ft nothing. Time for some revenge on all you buggers

Fine, you can put your own damn bags in the overhead lockers then 😉

I need to stand on a box to use the peep hole on the front door.

Why don't you simply drill a new peephole lower down?

Why don't you simply drill a new peephole lower down?

I imagine it's quite hard to identify people from their navel.

periscope?

I think for a passenger aircraft (airbus 300 those sorts of things) most airlines use an averaged weight of 100kg anyway and even then it's less than 20% of the weight of the plane at takeoff. It's really not that big a deal on bigger airplanes. If it was the airlines would have done something.

The peepholes use an extremely wide angle 'fish eye' type lens, so this wouldn't be a problem. It certainly isn't a problem for my mum, who I did exactly this for after the new door she had fitted inexplicably had the peephole about 6" from the top of the door. So, about the eyeline of a lanky 6'3/4" person.

Junkyard - Member
tipping the scales at a mammoth 67 kg it is a yes for me

Fatty

I was joking, for a start navels are ~ 3.5 ft from the ground. (except hels which will be about 2 :D)

How about an alternative travel solution for the 'very large boned':

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Do you get weighed on the return journey as well ❓
After a week in Egypt you could be in-line for a big discount on the return leg. But a trip to Disneyworld could be more expensive than you expected. 🙂

If we really want to promote healthiness, then surely link the price to BMI. And charge more for people who are either too fat, or too thin.

Mind you, I'd like to see the airline person who had to force folk onto the scales... Need one of those armoured cubicles 🙂

Can we average out the weight between parties? If so I can bring a few of you child sized "men" to sit next to me.

😉

If we really want to promote healthiness, then surely link the price to BMI.

F = ma

BMI doesn't come into it - the "healthiness" aspect is just a convenient diversion.

Maybe if Berm Bandit had to pay a full ticket price for a 2 year old child, then have the airline squeeze (quite literally) someone into the next seat & spill across half of your childs seat & be grumpy about the fact that your child bumped into them (in the seat you've paid for), then perhaps that would alter your opinion?

.......remember me? I'm the bloke who started this thread on the basis of generally being in favour of fattism in this context? 😯

"And you could have a special area with mini seats for kids. Sound proof it and pump sedatives in. The airlines would fit even more people in this way. Or you could just put them in the hold."....nice...gassing kids...

Chuckles.

Tall people however will get penalised for something that they can't do anything about.

But they are not being "penalised" are they ?

They are just paying for what they use, the same as everyone else will be.

Seems to me that the assumption by airlines that everyone is the same size and shape is a bit daft. I'd quite like a bit more logic to be applied to the process with adjustable width seating and for that matter adjustable leg room too. I did a flight to Cape Town a while back and had this enormous Afrikaans guy sit next to me. Not in any way fat, but his hands were like twice the size of mine and I'd guess he wasn't much short of 7 foot tall. Poor bugger spent the wolhe flight in real discomfort, because there simply wasn't sufficient distance between seats for him to fit his legs in.

My clothing and shoes cost the same as a lanky biffas. I get no short arse, small foot rebate, You take up the volume/carrying capacity, then you pay for it.

Will this be in actual kg or airline kg - I've never seen any direct correlation between the two.

Tall people however will get penalised

I'm hoping I'll get free extra leg room seats, they should really be my basic human right.

So we pay for our height so we get the extra legroom and the shorties get less legroom?
Once again I'm well in favour of this but the logistics of it just won't work will it?

I sat next to a very large American lady on my last flight over to the US. Huge, she was.

So, I put the privacy screen up, had another glass of chablis, then lay down for a snooze for a couple of hours. 😉

My clothing and shoes cost the same as a lanky biffas. I get no short arse, small foot rebate, You take up the volume/carrying capacity, then you pay for it.

I'm sorry - did you say something? All I can hear is a distant high-pitched whining somewhere near the floor.

So, I put the privacy screen up, had another glass of chablis, then lay down..

Chablis? Were you flying Economy? 😉

My clothing and shoes cost the same as a lanky biffas. I get no short arse, small foot rebate, You take up the volume/carrying capacity, then you pay for it.

You can already take more clothes on the plane than me.

Once again I'm well in favour of this but the logistics of it just won't work will it?

The one place you don't want fatties is an emergency exit row.

Theres plenty of weight to get rid of on planes - perfume trolleys, the bulbs in the no smoking signs, take out a few rows of seats and give everyone more space...

I'm 196 cm tall and weigh 100 kilos.
I used to work at the local airport loading luggage on planes and there was no one under 80 kilograms doing the job.
Seems all the lightweights can't move 30-kilo suitcases.
Weird the airlines would penalize someone like me when I buy a ticket, but they need big guys to load the damn plane.
A better suggestion would be discounted tickets for the skinny buggers. Everyone pays the same, but children and anorexics get a discount.

🙂 @ Graham.

It was the best choice to go with the prawns.

This is a brilliant idea, it should be adopted by all

Oh and Tall doesn't always mean heavy, I'm 1.9m and 71kg 😛

Oh and Tall doesn't always mean heavy, I'm 1.9m and 71kg

Doesn't class as tall where I'm from either. Short skinny bloke.

Tall people will weigh more than shorter people so how is being penalised for something out of your control fair?

Weird the airlines would penalize someone like me when I buy a ticket, but they need big guys to load the damn plane.

Seems like you have not understood something.

The blokes loading the plane aren't getting on it and don't have to buy a ticket.

Why would what they weigh have anything to do with anything ?

If I have to pay in accordance with my size then [b]goddamnit I want leg room![/b]

^^ Well said. In fact [b]goddamnit I just want leg room!![/b] and those head rest side bolster things....yep the ones that dig into the back of my shoulder blades, I want them gone. I want freedom to shoot any small people in the emergency exit seats sat there swinging their legs cos their feet don't even touch the bloody ground. I want a toilet that I can either stand or sit in, the current choice of sat with my knees round my ears or stood in some bent double contorted shape trying to hit the target without getting my chin on the way past is not ok. Tray tables that will fold out to be flat and not on a major angle because however I sit my legs or knees stop it folding out properly would be appreciated too.

If that's all good then yeh no worries about paying for my weight due to height.

Count, it's been established that I didn't quite get the jist of the payment structure proposed, I tried to cover this by demanding more legroom.

I want more legroom damnit, I'm tall.

Looks like I was 16 years ahead of my time when I suggested this to a check-in desk operative when they tried to charge me for taking my bike on a flight to Austria back in 1997 while allowing a morbidly obese passenger on in front of me at no extra charge. Me plus bike and small ruck sack undoubtedly weighed less than her. Justice at last!

Whilst we're on the subject, how come children get cheaper seats?
I mean, that's just ageist. Everyone should pay the same. Discrimination!

My life's already difficult enough, you have no idea the costs and pain in buying size 49 shoes, and then they wear out quicker, same for clothes that actually allow for thighs and height, t-shirts all seem to be designed for effeminate fixie riders without shoulders or muscles. Even when I can find something in the shops for a size 50 chest, its seems to have been built for a short squat Danny Devito'esqe character.

If this becomes common practice it will be paid for from the lunch money of blooded nosed little people.

Could you claim a mid air discount for having a proper dump in flight?

Could you claim a mid air discount for having a proper dump in flight?

You can if you go outside to have it yes.

On a recent flight, the wife got into her seat to have the mother of all jabbas sit next to her. This sends my wife into a steaming frenzy, especially as she has to lift the arm rest to get her in and the woman needs the extra belt too. She explains to my wife, who now has paid for one seat and has only half of that, she is 'large boned'. The stewardesses disappear. The wife wanted to go mad. Although the chances of survival in a crash is very low, she also feels if in an emergency she had the escape, she wouldnt be able to get past fatty, as fatty was wedged in. So, yes, something good out of this. I am no flyweight, but can comfortably sit in a seat with plenty of space, as long as my legs are cut off.

the mother of all jabbas

Mrs Hutt?

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Being a clydesdale i think this is a brilliant idea.

Let's see, off to Morzine with a 100kg limit.

Oh damn, i will be forced to buy a Uber Bling, top end, ultra light, carbon/titanuim/unobtanium 160mm travel all mountain machine.

Silver linings !

How do you prebook a ticket? You must have to guess what your weight will be at the time of travel. That would make post Christmas flights expensive.

would this mean that airlines would market their flights to larger people? would the airlines move from London to Wales and the North East where they could charge more for tickets?

It's flipping my "offended" switch. But sod it- I weigh 60kg, why do I need to pay more for me + 30kg bag than 90kg man pays?

Whilst it seems fair, I am not a fan.

When my bike goes to Geneva, if my bike bag looks a bit weighty and my other bag equally full, I always have the option of wearing a few items of clothing as well as my usual wear.

What's wrong with wearing body armour and full face lid on a plane?

How long will we all be at the airport for? It's usually 90 minutes to 2 hours for flying Ryan and that's with cabin baggage only. can you imagine the queues at Heathrow on a Friday before Whitsun?
I can see regular business travelers losing their expense account lunches to keep their weight down. (An upside Post-It notes will get cheaper as business costs go down).

(An upside Post-It notes will get cheaper as business costs go down).

Well any measure that addresses the outrageous cost of Post-It notes has my backing 😕

i'm a massively tall 6'1", i already have to pay more to get enough* legroom.

it's about time the fatties felt my pain.

(*so i can actually fit in the seat)

Is that supposed to be 6'11" ? If not you're clearly doing it wrong 🙂

I can reach the overhead lockers fine thanks if I stand on the seat.

nope, not 11"

i've just got long legs innit blud.

They definitely need to combine public weighing with comedy klaxons if you're over the limit, just to add to the humiliation. I wonder if you're just over if you'll be allowed 5 minutes to go and try and empty your bladder/bowels.