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Get yourself down to a Jaguar dealer and snap up an I-Pace, just won 2019 World Car of the Year, 2019 World Car Design of the Year and 2019 World Green Car.
'Breaking news from the New York International Auto Show: the World Car of the Year jury has just announced that the all-electric Jaguar I-PACE is now officially the best car in the world!'
Dont bother waiting for the Audi eTron (less range and performance than I-Pace), snap one of these Jags up first.
Do you work for JLR?
My car is red.
If i was buying a Jag it would be a green one though
I thought Porsche Macan was the greatest car ever created?
Well I now know what I’m going to do at lunchtime
Or, y'know, just don't buy a new car. Walk or cycle instead.
My car is silver. Do I need a new one?
If you're going to get a car, get a Jag.
'Cos there's room in the back for, well, almost anything, really.
Can I lease one through Ling?
Ah rusty, 3 fights 2 weddings....proper LOL there...
But what should I do with the now redundant 'World Car of the Year 2018" that I impulse bought last year?
My car's pretty green - especially round the window seals
Mine is grey, in both colour and character.
My Volvo V50* was awarded the “Goldenes Lenkrad” (Golden Steering-wheel), a trophy instituted by the German paper “Bild am Sonntag” - stitch that! 🙂
*Not necessarily my ACTUAL V50, but I presume one very similar to it.
Will one of those Jags pull a caravan to the West coast of Scotland loaded with bikes & sea fishing gear without stopping every hour for 2 hours to recharge?
Thought not.
are you Jeremy?
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Caravan? Lol
@egf no but it will look just smashing in Waitrose car park.
2019 World Green Car is an SUV. So it uses more energy per mile than any normal car format EV. And it costs more to buy than any mass market EV that isn't made by Tesla. It might be a great car in other ways but this is a worrying signal about what these judges see as "green".
Pffft, my car won Best Tow Car, Best Winter car, Best Family car and best Estate car.*
Moar wins.
And it's red.**
Red is faster than green. #science_fact
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*These are facts I've only just found out due to the power of the interwebs.
**Plus it has a male sign as it's badge, making me more attractive and suave.
Or, y’know, just don’t buy a new car. Walk or cycle instead.
Are you prepared to walk or ride fifteen miles each way to work and back?
And I’m not cycling thirty miles to Bristol for a concert, either.
Are you prepared to walk or ride fifteen miles each way to work and back?
What’s happening? I only left work a few hours ago. How’ve they moved everything 12 miles further away in such a short timeframe?
Are you prepared to walk or ride fifteen miles each way to work and back?
I mean 15 miles.....
I mean 15 miles…..
For a spot of uglies-bumping, maybe. Not for work though (especially at 40 miles each way)
Will one of those Jags pull a caravan to the West coast of Scotland loaded with bikes & sea fishing gear without stopping every hour for 2 hours to recharge?
Thought not
Actually yes it will so there 😉
How can it be anything of the year 2019? It's April, we still have over 7 months of 2019 to go.
without stopping every hour for 2 hours to recharge?
If you want to charge it at home and you don't have a access to anything other than domestic plugs, it'll take 24hours...
Practical.
Buying a 2nd hand car, any car, is greener than buying a new one.....
If you want to charge it at home and you don’t have a access to anything other than domestic plugs, it’ll take 24hours…
If you're buying £64k car I reckon you can afford £200 for a charger.
If you’re buying £64k car I reckon you can afford £200 for a charger.
The issue in Dunblane is that so many folk in some areas have electickery cars that the underlying grid can't cope. Mucho upgrade needed.
The issue in Dunblane is that so many folk in some areas have electickery cars that the underlying grid can’t cope. Mucho upgrade needed.
Is that fact or speculation?
I reckon you can afford £200 for a charger
Assuming everywhere you go also has a charger
Or you could use the 100kV chargers that Jaguar say will charge it in 45 minutes.
How many are in the UK? None.
Practical x2
And away we go.
You don't have to charge for every journey.
Yes nil they've not installed any yet.
It a miracle petrol took off but luckily garages already existed before they were invited.
Are you prepared to walk or ride fifteen miles each way to work and back?
And I’m not cycling thirty miles to Bristol for a concert, either.
Not unless someone moves our shed 15 miles away...
How can it be anything of the year 2019? It’s April, we still have over 7 months of 2019 to go.
I don't think you realise just how good this car must be.
You don’t have to charge for every journey.
How do you know? You are making some hideous assumptions there
Are you prepared to walk or ride fifteen miles each way to work and back?
Yes, when we move soon my commute will be 18 miles each way. I'll have to use an ebike because of my MS so it's not quite as eco friendly as it could be but I don't have any choice in that one. I only go into the office 2 or 3 times a week and when it's really cold I'll probably bike to the train station but I'm still going to try to do it as much as I can, whilst I can.
How do you know? You are making some hideous assumptions there
Statistically there is a tiny minority who would need to charge for every journey, it's not really a hideous assumption it's a fairly good guess and more than likely be true.
It doesn’t matter what car you drive - you could drive a 5 litre supercharged Range Rover (like I briefly did) and swap it for a Prius and it won’t make a blind bit of difference unless we all drive LESS. Walk, cycle, get a bus or a train. Then you can have whatever car you want and just use it for the pleasure of driving on the rare occasion you do drive...
it’s a fairly good guess and more than likely be true.
Is it knackers. Nor is it likely to be true all the time. Situations change, daily.
I really just wanted to put a counterpoint to the daft opening post that looks like it must be sponsored it's so partisan.
How do you know? You are making some hideous assumptions there
Real road tests are showing 150 - 200 mile range from a single charge, that far exceeds the average UK journey. Or are you assuming something different?
Nor is it likely to be true all the time.
Well course it's not true all the time but it's far more accurate than every trip requires a recharge.
Will one of those Jags pull a caravan to the West coast of Scotland loaded with bikes & sea fishing gear without stopping every hour for 2 hours to recharge? Thought not
Actually yes it will so there
I think it depends where you start from…
use the 100kV chargers that Jaguar say will charge it in 45 minutes
Do you mean 100kW (not kV)?
Quite possibly. 🙂
Hang on, I want to complain. I’ve got a P - I shouldn’t see ads...
Towing capacity is only 750kg so going to have to be a small caravan.
Are those the Jaaaaags built in Austria? So they might actually be reliable.
Hmm. My car is 15 years old, was saved from scrapping in Japan and shipped over here in a slow boat, and runs on lpg. Is it more or less green than this thing?
tests are showing 150 – 200 mile range from a single charge, that far exceeds the average UK journey. Or are you assuming something different?
Well if you think about how long the average UK journey is; 50% of journeys must be longer than that...
A Jag with more electrical gremlins built in... haahhhhaaaa
Well if you think about how long the average UK journey is; 50% of journeys must be longer than that…
Average UK journey is really short so just for an idea of what 200 miles is it's Manchester to Glasgow, how many people are doing that everyday in one journey?
Even 150 miles is a solid 3hrs just about anywhere in the UK.
boomerlives
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Well if you think about how long the average UK journey is; 50% of journeys must be longer than that…
If you're doing the median, sure. But that wouldn't make any sense here, we use the mean. (and there's absolutely no way you'd get even 100 miles as the median)
Even disregarding range, Electric is always going to be at a disadvantage when a fill up takes 8 hours, not a couple of minutes.
When all the diesel drivers are forced into electric when they all start charging up, the lights are going to dim...
It's not really the answer, it's an answer to a current question with cureent tech. Hydrogen fuel cell tech is much more workable.
Hybrid isn't because the IC is always going to be a crutch for when the battery inevitably runs out, and you can replace electrons with hydrocarbons...
A charge doesn’t take 8 hrs. Most of the new ev’s can be fast charged to nearly full in about 25 mins. So grab a coffee, a quick toilet stop and you’re good for another 290 miles. Ok, not a few minutes but not so long as to render them useless. But again how often do you actually go on a drive more than about 200+ miles? For most of us a few times a year probably so if a couple of coffee stops en route bothers you so much just rent a car for those few times a year you want the range. You’ll easily save enough in fuel costs to fund that.
wobbliscott
Member
A charge doesn’t take 8 hrs. Most of the new ev’s can be fast charged to nearly full in about 25 mins. So grab a coffee, a quick toilet stop and you’re good for another 290 miles. Ok, not a few minutes but not so long as to render them useless. But again how often do you actually go on a drive more than about 200+ miles? For most of us a few times a year probably so if a couple of coffee stops en route bothers you so much just rent a car for those few times a year you want the range. You’ll easily save enough in fuel costs to fund that.
This^
Some will always see change as negative and rail against it but once experienced these arguments will be long forgotten. Cars invoke an emotional reaction in people and they're wedded to them, with the ICE being a big part of that. But it'll change. I suspect once they move to EVs the same people won't want to go back.
In a relatively small country like the UK the argument is even more pronounced. Longest drive I do with any regularity is from Devon to the Scottish Borders. I consider that a long journey requiring a break, and not one I want to do more than a few times a year. Personally I'd probably take more than one break. The longer range current EVs can nearly do that in one charge. And those numbers are changing all the time. Soon enough a real life day-to-day 200+ mile range will be the EV norm. The argument that this enforced break is a major inconvenience is therefore pretty weak - it hardly ever happens and is pretty much necessary for other reasons when it does.
This inconvenience will be material to some, but only to a miniscule minority. If they don't change it doesn't really matter. I suspect there are many more who think they're in that minority but aren't.
10% of jourenys are over 20 miles, although they account for 50% of miles. What proportion of journeys and miles are over 200 miles long I don't know, but it won't be many.
Electric vehicles emit more CO2 than diesel ...
carbon footprint of a car is 720kg for every £1,000 you spend on it.
... still looking for the article about modern diesels being worse real world polluters than ten year old cars...