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Tuchel will be interesting when the mouth-breathing inngrrrland fans start singing about bombers, world cups and world wars
Looks like they got fed up of the Irishman then. Not sure Tuchel will win the world/European cup though.
Meh. Who gives a flying **** anyway about international football anyway, particularly Engerland?
It’s one less on the candidate list to take over from Ten Hag, I suppose, who is inexplicably still in a job.
Bring on the ‘proper’ football after the latest pointless nonsense and see if Brentford can beat their present record and put two past us in the opening minute. With our present defence, that’s entirely possible
Most of us give even less ****s about the latest latest stupidity at united.
I hope United don't decide to look back to 1986 for inspiration and come looking at Pittodrie for their next manager.
Most of us give even less **** about the latest latest stupidity at united
Could you let my scouse mates know that then please? Because when I see them they don’t want to talk about anything else 😉
Anyway… I see the achingly-predictable, small-minded little-Ingerlanders have set out to prove that they haven’t progressed in their prehistoric, knuckle-dragging attitudes since they appointed Sven in 2001. (Rolls eyes emoji)
God the xenophobia in that article is horrific (was it written by Farage?). Tuchel is a good manager & the best that is available. Not that I particularly care about the national team, but in this instance I hope Tuchel gets them playing well & the pathetic small minded hack who wrote this article has to eat their words by next summer...
Is that an actual article not a spoof ?
I’m afraid (somewhat unsurprisingly) it’s real. God only knows why a quality manager like him would put himself through this.
Christ, everything about the Ingerland set up and their moronic fan base is utterly toxic
Tuchel needs to go. No wins for England yet.
I’m afraid (somewhat unsurprisingly) it’s real. God only knows why a quality manager like him would put himself through this.
Christ, everything about the Ingerland set up and their moronic fan base is utterly toxic
Wow, i'm amazed that's actually allowed in this politically correct world we live in. I don't know much about newspapers and 'sides' but that seems massively racist to me.
Wasn't Klinsman bandied about more than a few times previously. ?
All the rumours were about Pep, which just shows how utterly delusional the Ingerland fans are and how many ideas above their station they have
The idea of Pep taking the job is absolutely ludicrous. I’m amazed they’ve got Tuchel. It won’t be long before he’s regretting it, I’m sure
Behind the scenes footage of Tuchel's prep for the press conf
All the rumours were about Pep, which just shows how utterly delusional the Ingerland fans are and how many ideas above their station they have
Probably not that crazy, he's said he wants to manage a national team at some point, his contract is up at the end of the season. A sizeable portion of the squad are at or have played for City, we're a couple of defenders away from a very good first XI. There's clearly been contact between the FA and his agent.
I’m amazed they’ve got Tuchel.
I'm not surprised any half decent manager that's out of work. The pay is good and surely you'd back yourself to do better than a coach that had little experience before he got it and he managed to get the team to a couple of finals.
I think Southgates 'limted' management experience with the U21's would have been of a lot more value than anything most club managers would bring to the table. Shopping for players at PSG isn't very relevant
I'm not a fan of how the FA/England system is run, and I'm not totally convinced by Tuchel, but I really hope that he wins something with England and rubs the Mail's nose in it.
That's just vile.
To be fair, there is also some German media laughing about England having a German coach.
To be fair, there is also some German media laughing about England having a German coach.
The Mail isn't laughing though.
Changing the subject... .Staveley is clearly closing in on some kind of buy in to spurs. This has me very concerned.
As soon as I saw the rumours about Tuchel, you just knew it'd be followed up by all the gammons moaning about him being a German in charge of England. Honestly, who actually cares? In terms of chances of success, his track record is head and shoulders above any manager the national team have had for decades so maybe, just maybe, at the WC in 2 years we might actually win it and stop having to talk about x years of hurt, living on past glories of a WC won 60 years ago etc.
Stuff like seeing the DM article above and listening to some of the red faced Brexit supporters on Talksport yesterday makes me (even more) ashamed to be English. In other news, I have next to no care about the national team. Watched a bit of it the other night - Alexander-Arnold spannering balls all over the place in the hope something sticks and is a "wonder pass", Bellingham strutting around the pitch like he's Zidane, Pele, Beckenbaur and Ronaldo all rolled into one etc. What a loathsome group of football players.
Back to proper football this weekend. Come on Leeds (with our German manager who oddly, at no point has it crossed my mind that I should dislike him because of something that happened 100 years ago when a mentalist took a country to a world war)
his track record is head and shoulders above any manager the national team have had for decades
Southgate's record was very impressive: semis, quarters and 2 finals. I'll wager that no manager will better that in the next 20years.
Compare that to any previous national manager and he's very successful by any measure. If the fans weren't so stupid and hung up on 1966 then they might see it differently.
Tuchel it's another high profile manager who has inherited much of his success. Dortmund are always a major force in Germany, PSG were splashing cash and uncontested domestically, Chelsea are just Chelsea. Bayern, well his personality and methods were not a success.
He's just a new Mourinho and will be doing his angry Pepperami impression at Wembley very soon.
Jesus F Christ that daily heil article is something else.
Are they talking about the same Gareth Southgate they eviscerated for England players taking the knee and making a stand against racism.
I'd love to see them get themselves in a right pickle if he actually won the World Cup
I'm not sure farage tweet was genuine with him asking why England have a German manager and Galloway responding "probably the same reason you have a German wife" 🙂
el_shalimo - he got the Dortmund job though because he’d done well at smaller clubs. Interesting route to management/coaching, given he retired at 25 due to injury. I think it’s a good appointment. He’s tactically astute, got the better of Pep in the CL final, and doesn’t pander to primadonnas like Bellingham. Rumours he’s lost dressing rooms might be wide of the mark - he managed PSG and Chelsea where there is significant boardroom interference. Were it not for Manuel Neur’s implosion he’d have been in another CL final a few months ago.
The CL final was down to Rudiger's thuggery and Havertz on the break plus Guardiola's inexplicable tactic of not playing Fernandinho until 3/4 through the game and Rodri not even getting on the pitch
He'll be fine, tactically he's decent, England currently have a good level of quality players to choose from, and he knows a lot of them already. Having a German manager will be fun for the rest of us as well, maybe get them to change the anthem to Erika for the first game ;o)
He probably won't have favourites and pander to the media
That's a good thing
The CL final was down to Rudiger’s thuggery and Havertz on the break plus Guardiola’s inexplicable tactic of not playing Fernandinho until 3/4 through the game and Rodri not even getting on the pitch
They defended brilliantly, James had Sterling in his pocket, Kante was outstanding, and whilst the foul on de Bruyne was cynical, that was well into the second half. I don't recall City creating a huge amount before then.
Yeah, it was also when Pep used to tinker more, and came up with a brand new formation for the final. Even he’s learned!
I think he should do well. England have a great batch of talented players and he is good tactically. He may lose the press, he might lose the dressing room, that could be a problem of course but if he doesn't then....it's coming home! It's coming home, foot-ball's coming home! Maybe.
Disappointed as was expecting headbutt content!
Gosh, Barca trouncing Real by 4, I did not see that coming.
But more importantly Reading are now in the promotion places. A giant is stirring.
Not for the first time this season Ipswich have lost a winning position.
Looks like 4 teams will be scrapping for the three relegation spots
We had Muric on loan at Forest, there's a reason Burnley bought Trafford in.
I wonder which Arsenal player will be sent off today?
Mercifully the game of walking football that will be United v West Ham isn’t on the tellybox. The ‘highlights’ will probably take about 30 seconds of tonight’s MOTD2 schedule and will feature a succession of misplaced midfield passes
Apparently plenty of highlights Binners and some dubious VARing. United should have been out of sight by half time according to 5live commentary.
I had it on five live. We’ve got nobody who can hit a cows arse with a banjo. You could leave Rashford out there all day and he couldn’t find the back of the net. To put things into their truly dismal perspective: Chris Wood has scored more Premier League goals this season than the entire United squad
I’d make the obvious comment about Ten Hag surely being sacked now, but that seems to be the case every week. And what difference would it make anyway? The clubs ****ed! Some false dawn Sir Jim has proved to be.
Getting back to proper football.., this Arsenal Liverpool game is a corker! Saka looks unplayable when he’s on this type of form
You're on 8 now, Chris Woods only scored 7.
Apparently plenty of highlights Binners and some dubious VARing.
Yep! I'm very surprised though that VAR overturned the on field decision.
VAR failed Man Utd today
You’re on 8 now, Chris Woods only scored 7.
Phew, that’s a relief. Our entire ludicrously-expensively assembled squad has collectively managed to barely outperform the Notts Forest frontman. Notts Forest who are presently 7 places above us.
We’re 9 games in and we’ve scored 8 goals. A testament to the expansive and creative attacking football we’re playing. It’s a joy to watch
Some false dawn Sir Jim has proved to be
This is what I could never understand about his 25% stake. He could never do what he wanted to do, unless he has the support of the Glazers. Their direction has brought MU down to a mid table/6th place team, so why would he spend so much to not have control?
Or is it a case of give us £1bn+, do what you want with the football team, but remember, we still own 75%, so we want some more profit from you if you do well. And, how does a football club become worth £4bn+? For that investment, you’d be looking for £200m+ profit each year. That isnt going to happen, havent they had large deficits each year?
barely outperform the Notts Forest frontman
To be fair, he's the Premier Leagues third top scorer and has been for a while.
If it helps, Ipswich Town have scored 9, I think.
Looks like the football officials are no longer afraid of giving the marginal decisions against ManU as they were under the Fergie era. That said VAR proved again it’s not the messiah.
The VAR decision was absolutely ludicrous. If that’s the way things are now going to go then there’s no point having an actual referee on the pitch. Simply beam the instructions from Stockley Park directly onto a big screen in the ground
While that VAR decision was wrong - has a ref ever actually kept their original decision when VAR says can you take a look at this?
Utd shouldn't be holding onto a draw against West Ham who lets not forget last week were clueless against Spurs. They should've been way out of sight.
However that said - the XG is interesting...
West Ham (3.23) 2-1 (2.29) Man Utd
While that VAR decision was wrong – has a ref ever actually kept their original decision when VAR says can you take a look at this?
I've only seen it once, the ref stuck with his decision to not award West Ham a penalty despite VAR referring him to the monitor. That was a European game though, I've never heard of it happening in the PL.
It was hardly clear and obvious was it, and why not look at Ings handball? Wonder if the ref was influenced by the fact it was Michael Oliver as the VAR?
Everyone's allowed a little fun at Eriks expense.. even the VAR surely 🙂
Gone. VARs fault. Grrr.
Ruud interim before Southgate gets it. Hopefully.
Line up the next mug. We need someone who can keep us up
I can't imagine Utd fans would be happy with the Southgate style - defend, defend, defend.
Maybe attack. If the sun is in the right spot in the sky & Binners has eaten the correct amount of his Gregg's sausage roll.
The continuing pantomime at Old Trafford is a constant source of amusement. Long may it continue !
Southgate would at least give me some hope that this wonderful Man U era will continue 🙂
It’s going to be Southgate, isn’t it? The owners have been trolling us for years now, so why not?
And to think that when they appointed Maureen with his bus-parking, we didn’t think it could get any worse. What halcyon days they seem like now
An absolute clown show!
They should have sacked him 10 days ago and appointed Tuchel, but like most other things at Old Trafford recently they managed to miss the target.
I'm not sure it really matters who they appoint.
Surprised he lasted this long 😉
Ruud interim before Southgate gets it. Hopefully.
I can’t imagine Utd fans would be happy with the Southgate style – defend, defend, defend.
Exactly that – it would mean an entire team rebuild to fit with Southgate's preferred style.
I’m not sure it really matters who they appoint.
That pretty much sums it up. They’ll inherit a squad of ludicrously overpayed donkeys who play like they’ve never met each other, all TH’s backroom staff (as everyone else was sacked) and the same ownership that got us into this sorry mess in the first place
I can’t see why anyone would want the job, apart from for the lucrative payout when they’re sacked
Southgate might be a good call.
I don't rate him as a tactician but he can create a good atmosphere in a team, which Man Utd seem to need right now.
They also have a few England Internationals, so he might go down well.
That pretty much sums it up. They’ll inherit a squad of ludicrously overpayed donkeys who play like they’ve never met each other
You've been saying this for a decade now and it's not the same donkeys as it was 10 years ago. Each manager has brought in a full squad of players of their own. But somehow it's the directors/owners fault ?
I’m not too sure the managers before TH had much say in the transfer dealings. That always seemed to be decided in the boardroom, apparently by picking names out of a hat. Thus leading to a decade of recruitment which could be referred to, if you were being generous, as an absolute ****ing joke.
Literally billions spent on Pogba, Sanchez, Ronaldo, Sancho, Van de Beek, now Antony. The list goes on and on. All on contracts that seemed to involve the players agent thinking of a number, then tripling it
That list above though we're all very very good players. Even if it wasn't the managers choice they've signed a lot of very expensive and talented players. (And some questionable ones I admit)
I fine it hard to believe that any club has a bloke turn up for training on a Mon morning and the manager thinks "wtf is he doing here" they must get asked about potential signings surely
Mourhino has always been a fantasist who blames everyone else for his failures, is there a dressing room he didn't lose the support of?
That’s as maybe, but Is anyone seriously suggesting that the transfer dealings of Manchester United have been anything else other than completely farcical for the last ten years?
Only after the fact.
Look at some of those, they were top top players before Utd got them. Think even Sancho, Mount, etc. everyone wanted them.
I think we forget that virtually all of their success in their entire history has been under just two managers. What we're seeing is regression to the mean.
Ineos are massively culpable here. Why let ETH buy even more of his ex players after a summer in which they were looking for a new manager? Laughable really. They were actually decent yesterday, bar the finishing. I guess they see even qualifying for the Champions League next season slipping away.
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Dave Brailsford is wearing the Emperor's New Clothes - I think he got lucky with the timing with BC - did some ethically dodgy stuff with Sky & now Jim thinks he an apply his expertise to football.
Good luck with that.