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United Spurs final then? Assuming they can see out the second leg….
If you wanted to face any team in a final it’d be Spurs
We’ll finish 15th or 16th in the league, because we’re absolutely shite, but somehow win the Europa League and qualify for the Champions League next season, because that would just be the most United thing ever!
Spurs have outplayed United for the past few seasons but yeah, they’ll bottle it in the final. Assuming they make it, given the Bodo goal….
A pair of old has-beens fighting over a wig
I bet UEFA are ecstatic that the likely finalists of the Europa league are presently sat in 14th and 16th in the EPL having spent the season getting turned over by Bournemouth and Brentford
It really gives the competition some credibility
Spurs have outplayed United for the past few seasons but yeah, they’ll bottle it in the final. Assuming they make it, given the Bodo goal….
Daughter went to an international gymnastics event in Bodo last summer. The population is smaller than the capacity at White Hart Lane. I would love it if they turn over her uncles team!
It's not been dull.
Pity to see Lamine Yamal go out but I've a feeling we'll see a lot more of him. Cracking game though.
Strange to see an Italian side forget how to park the bus when 2 goals up! Great comeback though to win it.
As a Leeds fan and kinda following Bradford because of friends, this game has blown both of them out of the water. What a game!
Pity to see Lamine Yamal go out but I've a feeling we'll see a lot more of him. Cracking game though.
But will we see more of him passing to his team mates? Greedy and lost the ball more than anyone else on the pitch because of it but an incredible talent for any age, let alone 17...
Arsenal, the Netflix of the EPL. Just when you think something might be about to happen, you have to wait for another season.
another random stat - PSG have as many wins in 2025 against EPL opposition now as Spurs.
Just discussing with Mrs Binners which one of the two donkeys in Spurs or United - both of whom have been getting spanked by everyone in the Premier League all season - would fare in the Champions League next season against the likes of Inter, PSG or Barca.
Theyd be looking to get into double figures!
Be careful what you wish for. Being honest, spuds are welcome to qualify and go out in the first round with a GD of -15
Might win a game if drawn against a Kazak side who travelled 23 hours on a mega bus.
The way Sir Jim is cutting costs they may well find themselves on a Mega Bus.
It’s no more than they deserve. If they were paid on results, they’d be hitching it there
A shame Arsenal are out as according to Mikel Arteta they’re 100% the best team in the competition. Not with Martinelli annd Trossard up front pal. Also spouted some nonsense the other day about getting more points than Liverpool did this season in the last two seasons and not winning the league.
And if we’re doing funny stats set piece specialists Arsenal, who have a mural of the set piece coach, have apparently conceded the most set piece goals in the premier league this season!
Well, one thing it proves (again) is that Arteta is a very, very bad loser
Well looks like 2 English teams in the mid table obscurity final. I hope the trophy is a large Sports Direct mug.
Well looks like 2 English teams in the mid table obscurity final. I hope the trophy is a large Sports Direct mug.
A special 2 handled Sports Direct mug
I owned one once and it took a couple of days to finish my tea.
I owned one once and it took a couple of days to finish my tea.
Mine was my go to post ride pint of tea mug.
So here’s a question. If Chelsea win the Conference League but finish 6th, and Utd/Spurs win the Europa which team has had the ‘better’ season. Obviously the team which loses the Europa final has had a mare.
I mean I probably don't have anything to worry about, because it's them, but I'm starting to get slightly concerned that my daily pick me up twitter account is looking in danger.
Nice to see both Utd & Spurs getting some good form before their final, given their next games against Chelsea & Villa respectivelyI don't see an upturn in form before then.
What do we think? 0-0 after 120mins then some terrible pens?
Well done Southhampton, not the joint worst team ever.
How strange as a Forest fan to be gutted by a 7th place finish after the last couple of seasons...
Dropping points to Leicester yesterday was somewhat galling and also nuts to look at Villa's last two games, Man Yoo and Spurs, and think, well that's torn it. Was really hoping for a showdown against Chelsea on the final day.
Anyway, here's to hoping there's another twist or two in the last couple of weeks.
What do we think? 0-0 after 120mins then some terrible pens?
I’d keep your head down if you’re sat in Row Z. It has the potential to be the worst match ever played. As they demonstrated yesterday, both sides are absolutely woeful.
If you look at their terrible, leaky defences then it should be a goalfest. However, neither has a player capable of hitting a cows arse with a banjo.
I’m going to go for extra time and a winner on 124 minutes, god knows who to, with a goal that is an over hit back-pass, that then takes several deflections, before dribbling over the line, having bounced in off the goalkeepers arse
In August Villa must’ve looked at the fixture list & thought they had a tricky end to the season…..
Bonkers that the toon have a very realistic chance of 2nd place. Even more mental to think some (admittedly the more unhinged hysterical ones on social media) fans were calling for Howe to be sacked at the beginning of December.
Amazing too there are rumours of Man U trying to sign Tonali for 85M. Why would the toon sell one of their top 3 players for only a 30M profit when they've reportedly got 200M to spend in the summer? And why would he want to go?
I’m going to go for extra time and a winner on 124 minutes, god knows who to, with a goal that is an over hit back-pass, that then takes several deflections, before dribbling over the line, having bounced in off the goalkeepers arse
It'll be Harry Maguire or Fernandes.
The great thing about it being Maguire is that it could be either end!
Shame for Forest but it seems like they’re running out of steam. Win both games though and you never know. West Ham away is very winnable then Chelsea at home on the last day could be winner takes 5th? Still clinging to hope that City and Chelsea miss out - but City should win their games.
City 'should've' won against Southampton - depends I think what happens on the cup final.
It's rubbish that there are Premier league games to play after that. Stupid scheduling - also **** the Club World cup bollox - complete waste of time.
This made me laugh…
I’ve got money on Palace to win and Eze to score, so that’s the first half of the bet paid out 😃
No way is he going to be at Palace next season
It's most bizarre how many footballers are comotosed by a football nowadays.
Would have been a travesty to end this particular season with a trophy, so well done Palace!
As a city fan i am disappointed, but fair dues to Palace, they worked their socks of today and had the quality when it mattered.
Newcastle and Palace winning the cups, and how close the race for Europe is, its been a good year for the competitiveness of English football.
I wasn't paying attention properly so may have misheard the stat, but if I heard correct by failing to win last night, means ManU will go through the whole season without winning two league games in a row?
Nice one Palace! They’ve looked really good in the second half of the season. Thoroughly deserved. They only conceded one goal the whole campaign,
I’m really chuffed for Dean Henderson who hasn’t had it easy time of it and was treated pretty shockingly by United. He played a blinder today
So much for the Superleague and the so-called ‘Big Six’
Thats not aged well, has it? I’d like to see anyone try to make a case for that after this season
Henderson should have been sent off. The reason that he wasn't "that the ball was moving away from goal" was because he flicked it with his hand outside his area.
It was a decision made by someone determined not to "ruin the occasion" rather than apply the laws of the game. How can a keeper use his hand outside the area to take the ball away from an opposition striker and receive no punishment? No card, not even a free kick.
The ref was not even sent to the monitor to review.
instead of being sent off Henderson stayed on to save a penalty - which should have been retaken as he was yards off his line when the ball was struck - and make other saves which effectively won Palace the game.
City played poorly and posed little threat against a deep defence but they won because of incompetent and possibly corrupt officiating.
Meh. I’ll just get the world’s tiniest violin out for Citeh. They’re so hard done by, aren’t they?
I liked what Henderson said to Pep, which apparently led to a bit of a hoo ha. “You got the extra ten minutes you wanted, so no hard feelings” 😂
When they flagged up ten minutes, in unison we said ‘where the **** has ten minutes come from’? So you can file that with your referee‘not wanting to ruin the occasion’
The extra ten minutes quite clearly came from the "injuries" that Palace milked in the second half.
City were clearly hard done by today. The rules of the game were completely ignored at Wembley today. That is a simple fact.
I would not expect any objectivity or common sense from a United fan. Enjoy life with your great owners and next season's relegation battle.
Prediction Manyoo will be the lowest placed "United" in next year's table.
Whatever. I’m fifty quid up 😃
They’re looking pretty shit. Let’s give ‘em another ten minutes to see if they can get their act together.
Should we rename Fergie time? At least he’d generally do something with it
#prayforpep
Ref/VAR got it wrong. But who the hell cares, and anyway, these things level out over a season don’t they? Good to see an underdog get the run of the green for a change.
City of past seasons would have had the game won within 60 minutes by creating and taking chances, even if the ref was handing the opposition gifts. That's the reason we're not FA Cup winners.
Anyway, on to next season, hoping Rodri will make it back OK and we can start to rebuild <checks to make sure he's not already heading back to Spain>.
It's the fun of top level English football that dynasties peater out. Leeds, Liverpool (80's), Arsenal and ManU). Don't get that in any other major leagues.
Reading have new owners...
which should have been retaken as he was yards off his line when the ball was struck
That is not correct.
Law is clear "When the ball is kicked, the defending goalkeeper must have at least part of one foot touching, in line with, or behind, the goal line"
Put it on slow motion, watch the clip from behind the goal at 3:09 and you see he starts behind the line and his right foot is for sure a step out but the left foot is still at least in line if not still behind.
Maybe you don't know the laws or maybe your salty tears are obscuring your view 😉
which should have been retaken as he was yards off his line when the ball was struck
I think you must have been watching a different match. It was just an outstanding save.
Pep needs to come up with a plan B when teams sit in on a low block looking to hit us on the break.
At least tell the wingers to be more direct. I cringe every time I see Doku face up to his defender and start this choppy am I or aren't I going to attack crap. Because even if he beats his man, which he is well capable of doing more times than not, the opposition have the rest of the team in the box while he is toying with the defender and the odds have swung in their favour.
Palace have a few players that are champions league level, but the player I would take at city would be Munoz, he is fantastic and he showed it again yesterday.
At the beginning of the year I said that I was a bit unbothered about city winning the league this year, not because I don't want to see them win every game in the moment, but because it is meant to be hard, winning is meant to mean something special, as it was for palace yesterday, even in my disappointment I was actually quite chuffed for palace, they wanted it more and the fans brought the atmosphere. We are not entitled to win, and I don't want our fans to show that entitlement that we have seen from united and Liverpool over many years and decades, I am embarrassed by reactions like cletus.
I do think the refereeing team got the Henderson decision wrong, but we need to get away from the idea of refs being corrupt or biased, it wasn't a clear cut decision and they are humans under pressure.
As a City fan, this season has been hugely disappointing, I still breath a sigh of relief when we reach the magic 40 points. Utd might just get there this year...
Firstly yes the keeper should've been sent off. But that doesn't automatically mean we'd win against 10 men.
Palace were the better team, when they went 1-0 up the writing was on the wall.
I think Haaland coming back from injury before the end of the season may be what costs us our champions league place. We were hitting a nice run of form, and now he's bank 2 games and zero goals scored. I think he's an incredible striker but I don't think he fits in with the way Pep lines to play and losing De Brunye next season who has been his main supply line is a big concern.
TL:DR City fan, pleased for palace, concerns and Haaland s impact on the whole team.
Just to add to the controversy, watching back this morning on slow-mo I'm not convinced by the penalty, yes there was contact, yes the defender missed the ball but the city player only had one thing in mind, toe poke past the defender and then was on his way down when contact was made.
If he'd had proper control, not poked it over the goal line, with the intent of really getting a cross in, it would probably have been a fair tackle. That's ok, 'manufacturing contact' is legit nowadays, but being on his way down already isn't allowed.
So, Henderson shouldn't have been on the pitch to legitimately save a penalty that shouldn't have been given 😉
Just to add to the controversy, watching back this morning on slow-mo I'm not convinced by the penalty, yes there was contact, yes the defender missed the ball but the city player only had one thing in mind, toe poke past the defender and then was on his way down when contact was made.
If he'd had proper control, not poked it over the goal line, with the intent of really getting a cross in, it would probably have been a fair tackle. That's ok, 'manufacturing contact' is legit nowadays, but being on his way down already isn't allowed.
So, Henderson shouldn't have been on the pitch to legitimately save a penalty that shouldn't have been given 😉
Was listening in the car at that point and when they were looking at replays when VAR reviewed the penalty they had doubts about the level of contact. View seemed to be the penalty was "won" rather than "conceded".
We'd be debating these things with or without VAR. Well done Palace, played well this season.
It's great to see a larger number of PL teams who can genuinely give the so-called 'top clubs' a proper game home and away - Crystal Palace, Bournemouth, Brighton, Notts Forest, Brentford etc. It makes for a better league and a stronger winner because the season isn't just decided by Arsenal vs Liverpool vs Man City fixtures with the rest getting steamrollered.
It's also one of the reasons why Man U and Tottenham are so poorly-placed - they are both fragile and mediocre but can normally rely on picking up relatively comfortable points against many of the other clubs. But now teams like Bournemouth come to Old Trafford and hand them a beating.
Even Ipswich and Leicester managed go beat Spurs this season - how bad is that?
Good game that, bit squeaky bum time for the last day CL spot now. I think Arsenal probably deserved it in the end, even if Newcastle had the better chances - I assume Arteta will recognise they were the better side apart from Raya.
Anyway, what I came to say is actually, both sides (and they're far from alone) can be guilty of shithousery falling over on the ball for nothing freekicks. And the ref wasn't having any of it, so credit where it's due. More of this please!!
3rd to 5th on 66 points, 6th and 7th on 65, there going to be some nail biting this week.
My FiL is a Palace fan so I keep an eye on their results - I'm sure their fans or anyone elses apart from Man City's are remotely bothered about the "what ifs". How about the "what if" of 110+ or whatever it is financial irregularities and if found guilty what that means? Couldn't have happened to a better team IMHO. Well done Palace, the referee, and football in general.
Regards the Newcastle game, if Osula had started then we possibly could of been 2 or 3 up at half time.
Wilson is finished at this level.
More worrying is there is a rumour of a transfer request from Izak, which is why he was not in the squad.
Hopefully it's just a matter of resting him for the Everton game, which was always the most winnable of the 2 fixtures.
Although, I understand the CL is critical for finance, if we end up 6, winning the Europa is a good possibility.
winning the Europa is a good possibility.
Given the 2 teams that have made it to this years final, It'd be embarassing if you didnt 😉
More worrying is there is a rumour of a transfer request from Izak, which is why he was not in the squad.
Where from?
This is going to sound like sour grapes however I write it, and I'll obviously be proven right or wrong in the end, but.....
He has been immense this season, absolutely made up by what he has done and yet still I'm not 100% convinced. The pundits rave and sure they know their stuff but I wonder if he is potentially a one season purple patch and strikes me as possibly one where if the offer is right then we should accept. We have been very lightweight up front, Isak excepted and while Osula may be an option for the future he has a lot to do, Wilson is spent at this level, and we need reinforcing, which might mean cashing in on Isak for another semi-name first choice and another in reserve. I quite fancied Ferguson at Brighton but he's disappeared from view.
I wish we'd been able to keep Minteh last summer, TBH.
Liverpool's form has been woeful of late. Yeah, they've won it but it's not a strong finish.
It's always been potentially a bit weird at this end of the season. Sure, everyone plays everyone home and away, but if you have to play Liverpool in these last 4 or 5 games, they're 'trying out new players and systems' or whatever and undeniably some players are partially on the beach. If Brighton sneak a Euro place because they played Liverpool in a game that didn't matter to them compared to Bournemouth, Fulham or Brentford that played them when points mattered.
At the top - City have 2 competitive games still, FOR-CHE of course counts. Villa might have a game, if Man U win in the week or it might just be conceded 😉 And then Newcastle have to play a hungover Everton plus Jordan Pickford, who I'm afraid is about to make David Raya last week look like an decent amateur as the Sunderland lad has his say over Newcastle's CL aspirations.
Everyone looking forward to a fine example of free-flowing, creative attacking football this evening?
Well I’m sure one will be taking place somewhere in the world, but it certainly won’t be in Bilbao.😂
Gods only knows what the score will be. It could be anything, but if any match ever had extra time and penalties written all over it…
I actually think it will be a decent match tonight.
So much at stake for both.
Yeah, I think it’ll be a decent game, and quite open. I think United will go for it, with Mount and Amad starting behind Hojlund (🫣) and Bruno in midfield with either Ugarte or Casemiro. Actually can see Casemiro scoring and being given a ten year contract accordingly. 3-1 United.
Probably be an entertaining match rather than a decent game, end to end with far more mistakes and errors than moments of real quality.
Talking of moments of quality, has everyone seen Marmoush's goal last night, proper belter.
MSP sums it up perfectly.
Some of our European games have been absolutely bonkers this season. Certainly entertaining, as I’m sure tonight’s will be, but as far as quality is concerned… highly unlikely from these two squads.
More than likely we’ll see goals scored at both ends almost by accident, due to some proper defensive howlers, massive deflections and comedy goalkeeping. Both defences are absolutely shambolic, as their respective 16th and 17th league positions testify
Hate to say it - but I think Utd will win, cos of Bruno. Unless he loses his head & gets sent off. But he's good at not doing that.
The main thing that worries me is that Son is back tonight
If Amad and Bruno have a good games, Man Utd will win.
Yeah Marmoush goal was a stunner. Another blank from Haaland though. After ten goals in five games at the start of the season he’s not been himself at all. That mega contract might not have been the wisest move, time will tell.
Has the massive new contract had the Rashford Effect? He went from unplayable to couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo before the ink was dry
My prediction is for Romero to give away a penalty in the first 10 mins. Spurs then have to go looking for an equalizer and ultimately end up losing 2 nil. United look shit and confused for the entire game, Spurs look desperate and shit for the entire game. Big Ange goes to manage someone else and leads them to win the CL and, league.
Not really a classic. Still loads more time to go.
It does look much like a game between two of the bottom five. Spurs very anxious at the back, can’t see United not scoring.
Christ alive, this is awful.
EUFA has just begun an emergency meeting to consider the proposal that neither team is allowed to win.
Oooof !