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Wish the beeb had asked Ratcliffe why he tried to buy Chelsea. Yes, comments on Greenwood pretty vague, something about United’s values…….
Porto Arsenal possibly the dullest game of the season, bar the goal in the last minute. Not sure I like Euro games without away goals, it just seems to add something for me.
Just seen on twitter, too good not to share
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68369214
Stoke City: Ricky Martin sacked as technical director after 15 months in the job
Apparently he's livid he's leaving Stoke-a
Well, well, well…
Battered for 80 minutes, then win 3-1. MOT
Great game for the neutral, real drama and entertainment!
Leicester fans must feel robbed.
Been following it on the BBC sport app (dont have sky sports) Feared the worse after the first half and would've happily taken a point but over the moon with 3!
Leicester fans must feel robbed
A bit, but we can't hit barn door with a ****ing banjo at the minute. We should have been at least 3-0 up and out of sight.
Leeds were a bit lucky but they didn't stop playing, and they actually scored!
Quite the night at Elland Road, always happy to get 3pts but man I’ve no clue how! Leicester had so many chances and were managing the game well, but seemed to completely lose the plot after we scored. I still think Leicester will win the league.
RM.
Pretty sure Leicester, Leeds and Southampton will go up, probably in that order.
Been a great season for Ipswich already, comfortably exceeded expectations.
Just watched Jim Ratcliffe's interview on the BBC and I think he is going to get rid of Ten hag. He seems very non-commital anytime he speaks about him. Let's wait and see. You can't spend £400 million and play this dross football. Personally, I would give De Zerbi a go.
I can’t see TH still being in charge by the start of next season. Not when it looks like 5th is as good as it’s possible to get this season, with his signings (particularly Antony) looking like absolute donkeys
Apparently our squad last season was the most expensive ever assembled in world football at £1.2 billion, yet most of the time looked like a pub side.
I know that Ratcliffe has big plans, but the elephant in the room is that those ****ing parasites still have a controlling stake in the club and all these big ideas could still end up coming to nothing
Bit unfair on pub sides there.
No binnerant after yesterday's result? I'm disappointed.
Think yesterday was weeks of getting away with poor play coming home to roost, keep saying it, but Ten Hag doesn't fill you with confidence, i can't see improvement in any of the players who were there already, and his signings are struggling as well, he'll have until the end of the season to prove himself though.
The only positive for ManU just now is that it's Tottenham they're fighting for fifth with, and we know what happens to Spurs when the pressure is turned up 😂
Roy Keane used to be captain of Man Utd. And Bryan Robson. I wonder what they make of modern captaincy
https://twitter.com/WestHam_Central/status/1761672286606622841
Roy Keane was a cheating, violent, coward and bully. Absolute prick.
Who we got today? chelsea or Liverpool? I don't want klopp to win anything in his last season so supporting chelsea lol
Roy Keane was a cheating, violent, coward and bully. Absolute prick.
But he was a hell of a player, in an era when pretty much every team had cheating, violent bullies, he was on the receiving end all the time as well, but also managed to lead a team to the most successful period in memory. Think folk forget how many 'hard men' there were back then, and Keane gave as much as he got.
As for Fernandes, he's a hell of a player, if there was a Keane in the ManU team keeping him on task, he'd be up there with De Bruyne most of the time, as a captain though, he's never giving you inspiration when the chips are down, that team has serial winners like Casemiro and Varane in it, christ even Maguire in this current team would be a better captain and take the strain off Fernandes.
No binnerant after yesterday’s result?
I’m not angry. I’m just disappointed
What’s left to say about the same old lacklustre shambles?
Roy Keane was a cheating, violent, coward and bully.
Yes, but he was OUR cheating, violent, coward and bully and if you say you wouldn’t want a player like that in the centre of your midfield then you’re either mad or lying!
Who didn’t love watching him and Viera taking lumps out of each other?
Roy Keane was a cheating, violent, coward and bully. Absolute prick.
Walked out on my country because a years' old grudge against the manager, insulted 2nd generation Irish players and only played 62 times due to "injuries". Yep a prick.
and only played 62 times due to “injuries”.
To be fair to him, in that era there would be an epidemic of phantom injuries at Old Trafford the week before internationals, which would miraculously be cleared up in a week or so
Bigger fish to fry than some bollocks friendly against Macedonia 😉
Back to today… not a bad match this. It’s getting a bit handbags and the ref is letting a lot go
Well, VAR for one and Chelsea’s finishing!
How the hell did that get to 90 minutes at nil nil?
VAR
Gomez to win it with his first goal via penalty shoot-out?
LiVARpool’s U21s win against Chelsea’s £1Bn squad. 😂
The thing that really sickened me with Keane, was how he bragged about finishing Cyberdyne’s dad’s career in his (auto)biography.
another myth, haaland retired due to the other knee, he got back up and played the 90 in that game as well I believe.
as for Ireland, they had a poor setup, as others have said and keane was vocal about it, Keane not getting on with mick was the reason it blew up though.
Chelsea total bottlers. What happened to them in extra time?
Great performance by big Virgil. Thought Endo was really good as well, up against the £200m pair 😀
Oh and despite it keeping Arsenal in the race, I enjoyed them hammering Newcastle. You absolutely love to see it.
Didn’t fancy Liverpool for penalties, their captain certainly did the job again.
That’s Kelleher’s trophy to be honest. Tournament keeper, brilliant game today and kept them in it.
Chelsea total bottlers
I can see Gary Neville christening them ‘billion pound bottlers’ being something that sticks. You can almost hear the chants already
Kelleher was really impressive there! MOTM for definite
dander
Good game for a final, pretty threadbare bench for Liverpool, probably 6 nailed on starters injured?
Matip, Trent, Jota, Salah, Nunez, Jones,Szoboslai,Allison probably all start, with another four or five injuries on top, and Gravenberch taken out by Caicedo too
Another myth.
"I'd waited long enough. I ****ing hit him hard. The ball was there (I think). Take that you ****. And don't ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries"
Battered for 80 minutes, then win 3-1. MOT
I think "battered" is a little unfair. Should have been 1 or 2 up before Faes scored but for some shocking decision making from Piroe and Gnonto. Think despite the scoreline, the first half was edged by Leeds. First part of the second half you'd have hoped Leeds came out as strong as they finished the first but they were rubbish up until Bamford and James came on. They missed two good chances and had that iffy goal disallowed but screw it, doesn't matter. We scored 3. They took their two most dangerous players off at completely the wrong time - tactical disaster by the bald fraud. Tactical masterclass by Farke.
Everton have 4 points back.
as for Ireland, they had a poor setup, as others have said and keane was vocal about it, Keane not getting on with mick was the reason it blew up though.
A poor and mildly corrupt set up shouldn't have been Keane's excuse. He didn't want to be there. When George Weah's even more corrupt FA couldn't charter a plane for a game he paid out of his AC Milan salary.
You never let your country down.
Everton have 4 points back.
This has the danger to get sketchy very quickly. The people in charge need to tread carefully, this has future bit of a mess written all over it.
Everton have 4 points back.
Sure they'll be very grateful 🙄
It's bad enough with VAR ruining games but now we'll have to wait a few months just to find out if the points a team wins will still stand once the accountants and lawyers have done their work. And that's not even mentioning the blatant unfairness built into the PSR rules which enable the top clubs to protect their monopoly.
neilnevill
Everton have 4 points back.
4 points back, but confirmed as guilty of breaching FFP, and given they've been charged again for the following season, that likely means they are guilty again, and will be docked more points in April.
Brentford got dominated. IMO liverpool should go for Bowen when Salah leaves. Natural replacement.
Bowen signed a massive extension with West Ham, up to 2030. unless there's a release clause, Liverpool wouldn't pay what West Ham would ask for
Klopp is on record as an admirer of Bowen. But he’s off - not sure why the papers are linking them with players when they’re not sure who the next manager will be?
not sure why the papers are linking them with players when they’re not sure who the next manager will be?
It never stopped Chelsea and thats worked out really well
Oh....
I can't get too fussed on Everton and the points farce while we are still waiting on city etc.
while we are still waiting on city etc.
Well that just highlights the farcical nature of the the PSR/FFP nonsense. If they do find city guilty what are they going to do? Relegate them presumably, but what about the previous titles? Are they going to be wiped from the record a la Lance Armstrong or still stand? And what are the implications for the existing season? If city are relegated then they'll put out the kids in league games and concentrate on the UCL and FA Cup which means the EPL will no longer be a level playing field.
PSR is going to throw the whole league into chaos. Seems like the EPL are exercising a test case in how to destroy their own brand.
FFP is a farce, it lets the big clubs stay big and limits those who want to be big from getting up there too quickly. Look at clubs coming up from the Championship now, the gap is massive, they get into the EPL and have to run the risk of spending, whilst staying within FFP, without knowing if they'll go down again.
Reality is that FFP was meant to be around stopping clubs going to the wall, it's never about fairness, not when you've had so many teams getting a leg up over the last 20-30 years through outspending everyone, and building their empire, it just stops new teams entering the chat.
Reality is that FFP was meant to be around stopping clubs going to the wall
The way to do that is not to prevent clubs investing in their own business, but to do what the rest of the world does and insure against failure. The EPL is in a position where they could mandate insurance payments from clubs (and take more from the richer ones) so that any club which gets itself into financial trouble can carry on operating until the end of the season at least. If banks can be bailed out so can football clubs.
I agree it's a big mess, and hence why I'm only interested in the toffees as an indicator of what city face. Yet as dazh points out, EPL will damage the brand they are supposedly trying to protect, what ever they do.
I absolutely stand behind rules meant to protect against poor management that bankrupts clubs but agree the current system is deeply flawed. I'm not at all convinced insurance would work though.
Harrry Kane spreads Spurs-itus to Bayern despite banging in the goals.
He's going to end up with another golden boot without any team trophy this season.
Think Haaland might be back now 🤣
Blackburn v Newcastle has been a good value as a neutral.
RM.
Extra time is ace, end to end, both having a go instead of playing for penalties.
As a Newcastle fan, we were lucky. We've been nowhere near our best for the last few months, injuries aside.
Unlucky Blackburn, hope your season turns around.
Think Haaland might be back now 🤣
But can he do it on a wet Tuesday night in Luton?
Yes, yes he can. Looks like the software upgrade has been completed & the bugs ironed out.
His movement is immense, in this day and age you don't get many tap in merchants, he just leaves defenders for dead and makes it look easy.
It was a hell of a game though, when it went 3-2 you thought game on, then Haaland and De Bruyne do two quick hits, Luton had some clear cut chances as well, they keep impressing me this season, a few months back they were dead and buried, but they keep pushing and keep trying.
Just has 10 other players (and Tim Krul) trying to put a ball on a plate for him.
If only the ten of them weren't so bloody good at it!
I'm dreading Sunday. Luckily Mrs Binners has booked us tickets to go and see Johnathon Pie and it starts half an hour before kick off. I think she did this as she feared for my mental health. My phone will be off and I'll catch up afterwards with how many they put past us
Haaland – the worlds greatest tap-in merchant.
Seems a weird stick to try and beat a centre forward with.
I thought Haaland's 2nd goal last night was really good. Holds off the defender to lay the ball off to KDB then turns and gets on the end of KDB's through ball while out muscling the defender to finish. His 3rd wasn't bad either.
There's something wrong at Newcastle.
Even Blackburn seemed to just run through the midfield.
Players just not performing or clicking like they did.
I’m dreading Sunday. Luckily Mrs Binners has booked us tickets to go and see Johnathon Pie and it starts half an hour before kick off. I think she did this as she feared for my mental health. My phone will be off and I’ll catch up afterwards with how many they put past us
Everything looks set up for a scrappy 1-0 win for Utd
One of the most significant things about City's win over Luton is that they did it without Rodri. When he was banned for three games earlier in the season they struggled. Their recent midfield purchases have been underwhelming but Kovacic looked good last night and Nunes showed some improvement. Still missing Gundogan though.
I loved watching the Luton City game on telly. ITV slapping big microphones in a tiny ground and then apologising for the "fruity" language picked up when crowd declared their dissatisfaction with the performance of the referee by chanting "Taylor! Taylor! Youre a ****! Taylor! You're a ****!"
Rhymes with "hunt"
Kinda hope Luton stay up, they’ve given it a real go. Burnley and Sheff United are terrible though, Burnley especially - no willingness to adapt and tone down the pretty football despite getting hammered each week. Suspect they were overly reliant on their loanees last season.
Most teams would miss gundogan or rodri!
All the talk of keane, viera and hard men the other day..... this is a very good read
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52416192
Distinct lack of half and half scarves at this Chelsea Leeds game.
Happy memories of the 1970 cup final. That was the day I became a Chelsea supporter. Thank God Leeds didn’t win it.
^ Yeah, Chelsea did so well - home game against a second-tier team who didn’t even bother to field a full strength side against a team costing millions and millions yet they still outplayed you for the most part. You’re mid-table and you know it. MOT.
. Thank God Leeds didn’t win it.
I meant the match 54 years ago. I would have ended up as a Leeds supporter.😬
Another turgid, stodgy United performance, but they’re through. Klopp’s kids up next.
^ Yeah, Chelsea did so well – home game against a second-tier team who didn’t even bother to field a full strength side against a team costing millions and millions yet they still outplayed you for the most part. You’re mid-table and you know it. MOT.
Glad we're out. Really didn't want to go through especially with Leicester waiting - there'd be warnings ahead of that game from the potential of their salty tears causing flash flooding for the 3rd time this season.
But... half strength side out, arguably the better team for large parts, put 2 goals past them and conceded in the 89th minute. A good run out. The FA Cup isn't a priority this year whereas Chelsea are desperately trying to salvage something/anything from yet another disaster of a season with their billion pound team and their idiot manager saying they need a bigger squad... They're a great example of everything thats wrong with modern football in my opinion.
Another turgid, stodgy United performance, but they’re through.
Play like that against City on Sunday or Liverpool next round and we're going to get absolutely slaughtered
Its now geting weirdly compelling just to watch how genuinelly, catastrophically awful Antony is. You've got to question the mental facalties of the person who decided he was worth 85 million quid? He's the easiest player in the league to completely nullify as he only ever does one thing... cuts inside to try and shift the ball onto his left foot and try an bend a shot in to the top corner. That is literally all he's got. All a defence has to do to stop him is just stand in front of him to block the shot he signposted ten minutes ago in his usual achingly predictable manner.
He can't cross, he's got no pace and his right boot doesn't work. He's without doubt the worst buy in Premier League history. They're on about selling him on in the summer, as well as other expensive donkeys like Martial, but who the hell would buy him?
Tell you what though... Southampton are brilliant to watch.
I'm not sure how they actually lost last night, it should've been 4-0 to them at half time. Some of the football they play and the pace they play it with, is exceptional.
Oh joy. After scraping through against Blackburn, Newcastle get another cracking draw (City away). Forth away draw in the FA Cup in a row. Our cup draws this season have been PSG, Dortmund, Milan (Champs League group of death), City (h), Man U (a), Chelsea (a) in League Cup and S****rland, Fulham, Blackburn and City (all away) in the FA Cup. They say you need to beat the best teams to win a cup but surely not ALL of them :)? Apparently, Brazil '70 await us in the semis.
City are starting to come together, it's March nearly, it's not surprising. The weekend game could be interesting
Juiced to the gills and still crap
City are starting to come together
dropped the poundland hazard init 😉
The end of a thoroughly underwhelming career. He was brilliant when he could be arsed, which unfortunately was very rarely. At least someone like Gazza never lived up to his promise because he was out getting leathered and having a right old laugh. Pogba just spent his time posting selfies of his latest outfit/jewellery/haircut on Instagram.
Over his time at United he cost the club £350 million in transfer fees and wages.