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Oh yes, they don't like handing out money but happy to take it from vulnerable people who can't afford it or have an addiction. Absolute scumbags the lot of them, especially the corp hospitality they give out to MPs to get leverage on legislation.
What a performance Paquetá has put in for West Aaaaaam today, but god knows how Coufal is still on the pitch
Yeah I thought he was getting a red for that last one!
This Brentford v Villa game is fun, it’s degenerated into them kicking lumps out of each other.
At this rate Liverpool will have had 186 corners by the end or the match
I expect you’re behind the sofa Binners for every United goal kick! What is the plan? If Onana is just going to hoof it in to touch anyway, why make it so elaborate!
What does Gakpo have to do to get in ahead of Nunez?
What is the plan?
park the bus
I thought Onana was signed for his kicking capabilities?
Enjoyed that.
The red card was ridiculous.
@shinton - I should have taken your advice on the betting
I’ll take 0-0 every day. I thought we were going to get battered
In other great news, Christianity Ronaldo and Co played a game in the Saudi League today, in return for their millions, to a crowd of…
575 people.
In a ground with a capacity of 62,000
😂
Christianity Ronaldo
That won't go down well in Saudi.
That won’t go down well in Saudi.
Yeah, you don't want to start some sort of crusade against saudi football 😉
WTF has happened to Kieran Trippier??
He had a nightmare for the last few minutes, Chelsea got lucky tonight, they might only need to spend £200 million in January now 🤣
He’s knackered. I think it’s that simple.
He’s knackered.
He played 45 minutes after missing a game. And the recent mistakes that have have now cost three games were just shit decisions not to do with tiredness. It’s bizarre, after being perfect all season. 🤷♂️
The penalty was crap, you have to hit the target. But the error for the equaliser was just a tiny error, in fact watching Sky if Mudryk had been in the right place instead of miles out of position, it wouldn't have mattered. Or indeed if it had been anywhere else on the pitch.
I don't disagree, he's in a run of bad form and one where every error is turning out bad. It shouldn't be physical fatigue, although the whole team has that right now - that's why injuries are so frequent, fatigue and built up fatigue is the single biggest indicator for players getting injured nowadays. But mental fatigue and confidence are just as hard to recover from. They can all do it, in their sleep, but as soon as doubt starts to set in, and you start thinking about what could go wrong?
If I was Eddie Howe I'd turn the undersoil heating off and pray for a cold spell and no games until mid January. They just need a break and recuperate.
They need some reinforcements, midfield is looking light just now, as is down the wings, a couple of decent signings in January could give them new life, as well as a few of the injured back, it'll be a tough season no matter what for Newcastle, they may have billionaire backers, but on the field, they're no bigger or better overall than the top 8 in the EPL these days, only Chelsea and ManU seem to be able to splurge £100s of millions without thinking about FFP.
also some talk that he has some issues in his personal life - not sure of what nature, but he pulled out of the recent England camp to fly home over it.
Think I might put a bet on forest going down if take of Nuno coming in is true, I take it their board haven’t seen him manage since his wolves days 😂
The entitled Forest fan in the office is outraged they stayed with Cooper so long, when they are clearly entitled to be in the Champions League places in their second season up.
One of his many annoying traits.
Not surprised Cooper has gone and it sounds like he and the owner didn't get on. I've been to Forest away last season and this season and the home supporters were very vocal in their support for Cooper, seemed to have a real connection with match going supporters which probably is what stopped the owner getting rid of him sooner.
Nuno is a weird one, a less interesting and less successful version of Mourinho. I didn't think we'd see him back in the premier league after Spurs and then going to the Saudi retirement home.
I think Steve Cooper did a fantastic job, especially with the owner buying so many players that he didn’t want/need. Delusions of grandeur I think - survival again and establishing themselves in the premier league is about right, the owner obviously thinks they should be aiming much higher. Need to walk before you can run.
Who will be first in the queue for Cooper? One or two premier league clubs might be considering their manager's future with him now available.
Majority of Forest fans seemed to love him and what he'd done for the club.
Palace is the most likely destination which is a shame as he seems like a nice guy.
Nuno is a weird one, a less interesting and less successful version of Mourinho. I didn’t think we’d see him back in the premier league after Spurs and then going to the Saudi retirement home.
he had a horrible time in Saudi, especially falling out with players, wonder how he’ll get on with a team that buy players by the tonne and leave it to the manager to get them to work 😂
Nuno did a great job at Wolves and was loved by the whole city. I was bewildered and sad when he left but I think he really suffered during the pandemic being away from his family and in the end, lost his way.
I sincerely wish him all the best at Forest.
The ruling on the super league is a shot across the bows of FIFA and EUFA, I haven't seen much analysis yet, but it could seriously undermine their authority over the clubs.
Hopefully it won't resurrect the super league, but maybe it could lead to some reform.
It shows how far removed the 'big' clubs owners are from the fans that they think that the reason the Superleague proposal collapsed was because of a legal challenge from FIFA and EUFA.
I wouldn't hold out any hope for meaningful reform within FIFA and EUFA. Surely two of the most corrupt organisations on the planet
Meh, biggest teams are winning everything as of now, and being given every helping hand UEFA can give them anyway, losing them to form a Euro (and Saudi?) league wouldn't be that bad, more competitive normal leagues (not as sexy, but more teams could win), and Europe is taking over anyway with bigger CL, Europa League, etc almost being all year round now anyway.
I just can't understand how it'll be of benefit for most of the teams, it'll only take a few years until those big teams in other leagues become minnows in this format, you take a lot of teams used to winning and they'll be mid table or worse in this!
It's a crap idea.
Particularly for the English League. We have a fantastic pyramid, no other country has anything as extensive and we have the richest league in the World, playing the most entertaining football.
Most leagues have 1 or 2 fierce rivalries, England has dozens.
Why would you want to mess with that?
The Premier League is on another level to other European leagues, which are just dominated by one or two teams who just win everything every year. with yawn-inducing predictability. The Championship must surely be the most competitive and unpredictable league in the world.
Look where some of the so-called 'big' clubs are now. United in 7th, Chelsea in 10th, whereas Villa are 3rd, 1 point off the top and plenty of the 'smaller' clubs like Brighton and Brentford regularly take points off the 'big' clubs
I can't see why anyone who loves football would want to do anything to jeopardise all that for some crap American franchise system
We demand our right to be knocked out of the Champions League in the first round! 😉
Rose tinted specs on their Binners. City have won the league 5 out of 6 seasons in dominating fashion, usually gaining in excess of 90 points. It looks like being closer this year but they’ll still win it. I do agree the league has more depth and quality than the rest though.
The jump from Championship to EPL is getting bigger every year, the depth is starting to be quite shallow in the bottom half!
Absolutely top notch sarcasm from the UEFA spokesman there who said they have no intention of disputing the ruling and wished the best of luck to the two clubs presently in the new Superleague 😂
Bbc report a new super league proposal just in. On the bright side any competition that shakes up the bent established ones (uefa and fifa) might just help, even if their intentions aren't good
So much money involved that one corrupt organisation will replace another one. At least we know FIFA and UEFA.
I can’t see many clubs fancying having things dictated to them by Barca and Real who we all know are having this last desperate roll of the dice as they’re both essentially bankrupt
Excellent win for Man City, I remember a great Liverpool side getting pummeled in this competition but not sure they took it too seriously.
I expect City will now go into overdrive and win their 4th premiership in a row.
Having had the misfortune of watching the Liverpool/Man U game last week I thought I'd seen the worst game of the season. That was until I watched the first half of West Ham/Man U. How Man U are still up there in the top half is beyond me, they're the most pedestrian team I've seen since Sam Allerdyce managed the toon.
I think pedestrian is a good description of them dazh. I’m sure Binners has a more Anglo Saxon version mind…..
The atmosphere at West Ham is terrible.
Both West Ham and United were awful for the first hour. A turgid pre-season friendly at best. Then we go a goal down and show no desire to get back into it. Diabolical, but totally expected.
Cracking result at Luton.
Then we go a goal down and show no desire to get back into it. Diabolical, but totally expected
Par for the course. Nobody in a United shirt looks like they give a toss whether they win or lose.
I’m honestly past caring. Didn’t even bother watching it and went out for a nice lunch instead. I knew they’d lose. I expect they’ll now sack Ten Hag, get Graham Potter in (if rumours are to be believed) and the same overpaid, half-arsed, bone-idle mediocrities will restart the same cycle until they get him sacked too.
Rinse and repeat
ManU need to get back to doing the talking on the pitch, i've just not seen Ten Hag as being good enough with the way he's constantly fallen out with players and his lack of getting any real confidence back in the team, Spurs were similar and they managed to turn it around a bit this year, they need someone who the fans can really get behind and who can play good football, no clue who's out there that can do that for them though.
Anyway, Liverpool vs Arsenal is good to watch, 1-1 so far, with more chances either way, think it might explode a bit in the second half, sendings off, manager meltdown, this game could have them.
i’ve just not seen Ten Hag as being good enough with the way he’s constantly fallen out with players
As has every other manager. More precisely the players have all collectively downed tools like a bunch of sulky teenagers because they’re being asked to do their ****ing jobs in return for the vast quantities of money they’re paid.
Look at Sancho. Out of the team because the manager wasn’t prepared to tolerate him constantly turning up late for training having stayed up all night playing Grand Theft Auto. He’s on 340 grand a week and he can’t be arsed to turn up for training! That just sums up the attitude of the players at United
Cracking game this Arsenal Liverpool. That’s got to be the bizarrest injury ever though? Going off with a shoulder injury after colliding with your own manager on the touchline
There was a point in that half where the camera focussed on the ref, and he looked nackered, I think he might need subbing off after 60 mins.
The penalty decision is one of the weirdest as well, VAR will be getting a kicking again over this, as the reason sounds very much like VAR refereeing the match, which it isn't meant to be doing!
I am watching German sky, so might be getting a different commentary (even though it is English) so I didn't hear an official var reason. He slipped and I do think the handball was accidental, however according to what we normally see getting given, I think 80-90% of the time that is a penalty (100% for a European match).
Does anyone actually have a clue what the handball rule is at the moment though? Sometimes they’re given, sometimes they’re not. You may as well toss a coin to see which it’ll be.
Absolutely zero consistency on handball decisions this season
I've stopped thinking about it, was one last night i think where the guy swipes the ball away and it was all about the shirt line, today's is all about the arm going back to the body so all ok, they just make it up to suit their mood.
Think VAR is not selling itself well this year, could be an overhaul incoming, hopefully!
Good weekend for City! Watch them win 14 on the spin now.
Both West Ham and United were awful for the first hour.
Fair, but one of the uniteds got better.
Paquetá Was the game changer again. He’s some player!
Just listened to Goldbridge, love hearing him and seeing how McTominay is at fault for all ManU's woes, he's going off on him for both goals, if you've seen the highlights then watch Antony at that first goal, absolutely sums up the issue with ManU just now, Mainoo was just a pure mistake, still unreal how Kudus got from there to score though, but ManU have no CBs just now.
Just listened to Goldbridge,
I've been a Talksport listener for 20 years and endured some terrible presenters (amongst the really good stuff), but this geezer and that Chelsea idiot Jennings have got me running towards Podcasts. Rarely listen now.
At 85 million, Antony has to be the worst buy in Premier League history. And United have had quite a few contenders for that title
He provides absolutely nothing!
Oh, and Leeds were ace today, absolutely spanked the tractor boys. Game on!
At 85 million, Antony has to be the worst buy in Premier League history. And United have had quite a few contenders for that title
He provides absolutely nothing!
I was going to suggest Aaronsson, who we bought last season but Antony really is terrible. Ponces around with the ball at his feet before 'any' defender just plucks it off him!
Wouldn’t say he’s terrible, but there’s no drive in him there, he’s doing nothing for them without the ball and it’s not a good sign, Ronaldo was prone to this and chased out a while ago, but it’s the same with Rashford, Garnacho and a few others just now, you watch that Liverpool game and even when struggling, both sides had their flair players back and pressing
Oh, and Leeds were ace today, absolutely spanked the tractor boys. Game on!
Yeah, was grateful for the 10 point cushion. Could be a 4 point cushion by 27th since we have Leicester on Boxing day. I said up there that mid-December on was going to a tough one for us
19 games for Antony this season, no goals or assists yet. 1 goal for Rashford. Garnacho living off his wondergoal. Hojlund never scored in the league. Spurs fourth choice left back coming on as sub. Reliant on Jonny Evans and Maguire. Difficult to see what the plan or strategy is, pining for the feel good days of Ole.
Paquetá Was the game changer again. He’s some player!
He divides his time between brilliance, and giving the ball away in dangerous areas.
I expect they’ll now sack Ten Hag, get Graham Potter in (if rumours are to be believed) and the same overpaid, half-arsed, bone-idle mediocrities will restart the same cycle until they get him sacked too.<br /><br />
I heard ETH being interviewed earlier and he said we were solid other than conceding 2 goals. Now, I’ve been trying to give him the benefit of the doubt for a while now, but if he honestly considers that inept horror show as solid, then I fear he’s genuinely incapable of setting the standards expected of this (and indeed any professional) club.
Oh, and Leeds were ace today, absolutely spanked the tractor boys. Game on!
We've started our traditional New Year crash in some style. I can't wait to catch up with my Leeds supporting mate for the lunchtime drink I now owe him. His live updates from the ground were bad enough.
I saw the Notts Forest sending off on MoTD. Truly ridiculous!
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I saw the Notts Forest sending off on MoTD. Truly ridiculous!
Was listening to 5Live - a mystery what the ref and assistant thought they saw.
It wasn’t even a foul. It was a perfectly timed challenge. To be sent off for that was absolutely ludicrous
But my understanding is that because it's a yellow card VAR can't intervene, so even if the ref and VAR thought they'd made a mistake, they're not allowed to go back and correct it. It's still VAR that's the issue more than the refs themselves IMO.
Two or three times yesterday VAR was basically refereeing the game, it's not meant to be up to them, it's meant to be about whether it was clear and obvious and whether to send the referee to view it again, not to be given a synopsis of why they think the referee doesn't need to see it.
I honestly think the worst thing for VAR is having referees as the VAR assistants, someone who knows the rules should be part of the team, but having a current referee in the hotseat is just giving them the option to referee the match remotely.
I guess not looked as Odegaard fell? But yeah, surprised to see it not even checked. Perhaps Arteta ranting about VAR for weeks has worked?
Because the arsenal player slipped, I would normally expect handball to be given, but I can see why it wasn't, and it isn't a terrible decision, just one that is probably just over the line of being wrong with consistency.
There was also a lot of "yellows" requested by both sets of players in the match, which should have earned the requestor a yellow as has been happening this season.
On the actual football, TAA looks to be actually defending pretty well recently, it is like something has clicked and his defensive positioning and work rate has really improved.

