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the united takeover stuff is baffling
the united takeover stuff is baffling
I don't think it's about money any more with the Glaziers, i think they're just trying to mess with Binner's now 🤣
I’m sure money and greed trumps all for the parties involved but I wonder if events in Israel might have made it impossible for the Glazers to sell to a Qatari?
the united takeover stuff is baffling
Not if you're familiar with the Glazers, its not. This is panning out as we all knew it would. A total farce. Like everything else they touch. I didn't think for one minute they'd just sell the club. This was always about their latest ruse to screw as much money out for themselves as possible, while loading more debt onto the club. If Jim Radcliffe pays 1.5 billion for a minority stake, the Glazers will pay themselves 1.5 billion the following morning
The club is *ed and it looks like it will remain *ed!
On another note: England v Italy tonight, which I won't bother watching, obviously. Life's too short for that. But Southgate's squad selection is baffling. The side will be captained by a player who's presently in a pub side in Saudi and he's going to have a central defender who's manager would rather start one of the women who works in the canteen before him.
Italy should batter them!
As binners says, I'm not convinced they really want to sell. The value has gone up massively and they put any borrowing debt on the club. The Glazers are making massive amounts of money and the club is unlikely to go down in value any time soon. They don't care what the fans think so they will just keep doing what they're doing.
It was clearly just a valuation exercise.
They'll now say that because the Qatari's were prepared to offer X squillion pounds, the club is now therefore worth X squillion pounds, so lets re-mortgage the club for that X squillion pounds, then pay ourselves that X squillion pounds, loading the even more enormous debt back onto the club
Job jobbed!
They're ****ing parasites and thats how they think
Rumour has it that the qatari's are considering a bid for spurs instead now. While I think Enic are not the best possible owners, I don't warm to the prospect of Qatari owners.
Italy should batter them!
That aged well. Two cracking goals as well.
That second half - possibly the best I’ve ever seen Kane play for England. And Bellingham 🥳
Got to the pub in time for the penalty. It was all England after that. Italy looked totally out of it. A couple of lovely goals
That aged well. Two cracking goals as well
My predictions are as reliable as ever 😂
Is Bellingham any good in goal? I say that because I can imagine him playing in any other position from 2 to 11...
rather "unfortunate" celebration? 😕
lol. I thought Spurs were pretty fortunate last night - had loads of possession early on but didn't have a shot on target as far as I could remember, then Fulham had a short spell where I think they could arguably have done better in front of goal before Spurs scored their two goals. Then Fulham could easily have scored 3 or 4 in the last 15 minutes if they'd not dawdled on the ball and actually got a shot away... having said that, Maddison seems guilty of that a lot. He seems to have a bit of an over inflated opinion of himself so every time he tried to take it past more than 1 defender he ended up being tackled.
Spurs looking decent though so far - I'm honestly surprised that someone has managed to carry success in Scotland into success in the Prem.
I’m honestly surprised that someone has managed to carry success in Scotland into success in the Prem.
They have played 9 games.
In other news to cheer us all up, Steven Gerrards Murderers United played Beheaders City, or whoever, in the Saudi League at the weekend to a huge crowd of 696 people. Apparently poor old Jordan and co are all hating it and regretting the move, but are being told in no uncertain terms that contracts must be honoured so they're going nowhere. Thats a shame, innit? 😂
Spurs did what they needed, Fulham were well set up, and always hard to break down, they had the better of the first 15, but then Spurs had the rest of it until the final 15, think the stats were in favour of Fulham at 4 shots, 1 on target after 15 minutes, then they had the same at about 60!
The last 15 were daft though, think Ange just subbed off the front 3 and it caused a proper down tools event, not sure Fulham could've had 3 or 4, probably 1, as i think the clear one might have gone back to the foul on Kuvuleski.
They have played 9 games.
And got 23 points so more successful than any (?) other manager to have made the move from north of the border to the premiership in recent times?
In other news to cheer us all up, Steven Gerrards Murderers United played Beheaders City, or whoever, in the Saudi League at the weekend to a huge crowd of 696 people. Apparently poor old Jordan and co are all hating it and regretting the move, but are being told in no uncertain terms that contracts must be honoured so they’re going nowhere. Thats a shame, innit?
Well I didn't see that coming 😀
Spurs could be 5 points clear going into the weekend. Purely because we play Friday, but I'll still be smiling if it does come off. Palace at Selhurst. If I wasn't planning to take the kids to see the rest of Croydon stands tall's giraffes then the pumpkin trail Halloween event at Grangewood Park would allow me to hear the crowd and a couple of thousand spurs fans cheering loudly (hopefully) while gaining daddy points.
Then it's yet another London Derby with a visit from Chelsea and the first return of the prodigal poch. Hmm.
I expected the saudi league to fade after a couple of seasons, it was clearly never going to get any traction among football fans. It is funny to see it crash so quickly with the mega dollar outlay. As for the players who took the dollars, what the **** did they expect, did they really expect premier league crowds in the desert?
Dear god, this is absolutely dire!
Sideways, sideways backwards from a team who look, as usual, like they just can’t be arsed. It’s like watching us under Mourinho and that was like watching paint dry. Has any United player actually put a challenge in yet? Or given any indication that they’re not on a life support machine?
I think I might watch Bake Off instead. It’d be more entertaining
God help us at the weekend against Citeh. It might even eclipse the result against Liverpool last season. They could get into double figures
Christ, they’re absolutely shite!
He’s just doing it to wind me up now
Andre! Onana!
We’ve finally found something Onana is actually good at! Other then punting balls aimlessly out of play around the half way line
He’s like a crap Fabien Barthez
I only saw the second half but United weren’t very good, were they? Pedestrian. Square pegs in round holes. Ten Hag not sure of what formation to play and who to play. He’s on thin ice I think.
I just can’t fathom why Garnacho isn’t starting every game. Mind you… Ten Hags team selections and formations just generally mystify me anyway. He appears to be picking both out of a hat 5 minutes before kick off
We looked pretty good at the back end of last season. We look like a pub side, this one. We’ve gone backwards at a rate of knots
We’re going to get absolutely mullered on Sunday. Robocop must be itching to get stuck in against that Sunday League defence
I had a look at the results this season. Palace reserves in the EFL cup is the only game you’ve won by more than one goal. The rest have been 1 goal victories. Probably a good job you’re at home at the weekend.
Maybe last season. Our home performances have been awful this season too. Not exactly the consistency we were after. Being as crap at home as we are away
Never really rated ten hag, he just doesn't come across as a manager that can do something at this level with a club like ManU, he's not someone i see inspiring players in the squad, and weirdly the last week he's been saved by players who he's basically shunted onto the sidelines and having badmouthed them as well i believe, but now having to play due to injuries.
I do wonder what someone like Ange would do with the squad at ManU, and so many under performers, i see teams with such vast squads of talent, but with ManU there seems to be a scorched earth policy with a lot of their squad players who aren't in fashion, i can't see them going the season without some big drama centring around this.
You’re absolutely right.
Drama? We were barely into the season when there was a Mexican stand off between Ten Hag and Sancho which has resulted in the highest payed player in the club (£340,000 a week) having been ostracised and sat at home on his PlayStation awaiting being offloaded in the January transfer window (probably at a huge loss)
I have a certain amount of sympathy for him because he was pulling up trees in Germany, then courted by United, a massive, big money transfer, then just either left sat on the bench or played out of position.
So what was the point? It’s just appalling management, which is just par for the course at Old Trafford nowadays. Ask Donny Van de Baak. I’m sure they’ll both leave and immediately return to their pre-United form while United continue flailing in its now standard rudderless, chaotic direction, getting worse and worse by the week. Does anyone in that squad look like they know what they’re meant to be doing? Or look like they even care?
Never mind too 4 (5?), we’ll be lucky to finish in the top half of the table. It’s an absolute shambles and it’s painful to watch
Tbf, we have an unfinished striker for the future (****ing expensive mind), a lazy, injured gobshite and a streaky lazy winger who thinks he's gods gift available to score goals.
Sancho is a lazy ****wit who at city and in Germany acted like a ****ing manchild, needing the coach to make sure he wasn't late for training. Have you seen the videos of him cheating in training? No wonder the lazy c unit was blowing out of his arse after 70 mins in a game.
Place is a shit show (a bit like the formatting on this post wtf?), but going so deep last season has ****ed us with injuries now and then you get shit like Mason & and the glazers being atesholes
"I only saw the second half but United weren’t very good, were they?"
I was there tonight and in comparison to the first half, the second half was absolutely stellar.
I've been a few times this season and can confirm that Rashford is rubbish, gets the ball, faces the opposition, does a bit of strictly come dancing and that's about it really. The lack of physicality throughout the side is chronic, they can't even be bothered to pit a few fouls in, the only thing they're likely to win this year is the fair play award.
Is Rashford rubbish, or is he just not played right, or being supported enough, it's funny we talk about Sancho being pesona non grata at ManU for professionalism, but Rashford's head goes down most games and he can disappear, but there's no real move to bench him for a period, you have Garnacho, Pellestri, Eriksen, etc who can be used in and around that role Rashford is doing.
It's also weird that Mount, the big summer signing, is benched and ManU play a loanee (well two loanees) last night, it does have a feel like there's something brewing, as stated earlier, what makes me laugh though is players who were binned publicly over the last year, are the ones coming up with the goods this month and keeping the results going.
Again, i just don't like the managers way with his players, the squad ManU has, a decent man manager should be getting improvement from a few players, look at Ange at Spurs, Howe at Newcastle, De Zerbi at Brighton, O'Neil at wolves and so on, they come in, buy a few, but get squad players improving into first teamers, you look at ManU, and what players already there, have improved to make it to the first team, and i mean those who weren't already starting 11 or in through injuries just now?
Yeah, I think that Ten Hag has a touch of the Mourinho's about him. He dealt with Ronaldo last year, saw that strengthened his position and now sees isolating and picking on players as his primary method of controlling the group. Klopp and Pep might call out players from time to time, but 99% of the time they are inclusive and inspirational alongside the demands, Ten Hag doesn't look to have that side to his personality.
I thought Rashford was poor in the last England game as well, rather lazy and didn't really contribute much to the game other than his admittedly well taken goal.
So glad Mount chose Manchester and not Liverpool. Wouldn’t have gone for Szoboszlai otherwise!
I thought Rashford was poor in the last England game as well, rather lazy and didn’t really contribute much to the game other than his admittedly well taken goal.
He's been awful all season. As have the entire squad, to be fair to him. A major issue here has been the absence of Luke Shaw out on the left, behind him. They very much operate together and when he's out we've no player can do his job. He's been playing Lindeloff in that position.
Rashford is a confidence player though and when he's on form, he's unplayable. He couldn't stop scoring last season. But if he goes a few games without scoring, his head goes down and he seems to totally lose his confidence in front of goal
As for being lazy and not contributing much... that definitely applies to the full squad at the moment. The only ones who look like they can actually be arsed are the ones who seem to spend most of their time on the bench. Go figure? 🤷♂️
I remember watching a young sancho play for dortmund vs spurs at Wembley one of the years we had them in our cl group. He was just coming on the mainstream radar and the papers seemed to be saying more about him than the game in the build up. A guy behind us was on his back all game, constant abuse, and tbf if you'd not read a paper and known he was rated as an upcoming star you'd have not noticed him.... until after one well timed shout of abuse from behind us he collected the ball and went between about 3 spurs defenders to get a shot off. It was a glimpse, that's all. When signed by manu a year or so later I was slightly surprised as I thought he had more development still to do to make an impact in that side. I suspect the talent is there somewhere but the staff at united aren't bringing it out. He needs a move, but on the absurd wages he is who would be go to? If United pay him out maybe he can get his career going again but otherwise .... who knows.
United have boxed themselves into a corner again with Sancho. Given him a long contract on crazy money (which hardly any other club can afford) and now he's just sat there, going nowhere (literally and metaphorically) same as Martial, Van De Beek, Maguire, etc...
We've a squad full of benchwarmers that we can't offload. The whole transfer policy has been insane for years now. The pinnacle of the absurdity was Phil Jones who was given a 5 year contract on £120,000 a week, never played and just saw out his contract picking up millions in the process. It just became a running joke with all United fans. Constant reminders that another week has passed where Phil Jones has picked up another 120 grand for sitting with his feet up at home. I'm not knocking Phil Jones... who wouldn't take that gig? But who the hell negotiated that contract?
Absolutely crazy!!!
In more dysfunctional United bonkersness, the rumours are that 33 year old Chris Smalling will be coming back to Old Trafford to shore up the threadbare defence 😳
Rashford is also on a massive contract now. He’s Sancho’s mate isn’t he? So maybe he’s in a bit of a sulk about his treatment. Good point by MSP in that other managers deal with things in private, castigating Sancho in public was doomed to backfire. Rumours Casemiro is sulking now as well.
Klopp and Pep have called out players publicly as well on occasion, but it always seams to also include a path back to being a starter. Ten Hag just seems to have lashed out at Sancho, then spat his dummy out when he got the equal treatment back. To me it now also brings into doubt the perceived narrative of the Ronaldo showdown.
Mourinho has over the years used the technique of isolating a player, making them a scapegoat and turning his clique against them to externalise the main groups problems, however the cycle of success that creates is short lived, and players are wiser to it now.
Everton unlikely to avoid the drop this season then.
They’ve actually looked ok recently. But that would be really tough, if granted. When do City get theirs? 😜
Everton can't afford the same lawyers as City. Mind you, City look like they've been surviving on a shoestring budget compared to Chelsea's spending over the last 2 seasons. Surely their summons for the same has to be in the post?
In more dysfunctional United bonkersness, the rumours are that 33 year old Chris Smalling will be coming back to Old Trafford to shore up the threadbare defence
was Steve Bruce busy for once?
Some assist by Darwin Nunez that 🤣
By virtue of playing Friday night spurs are 5 points clear!
By virtue of next playing Monday night, we could be 4th before we kick a ball again.
Spurs have a record of 8-2-0 after 10 games, a lovely tribute to Antonio Conte's favourite formation
Was a tough game to watch last night, Palace were set up to just not allow any space to the opposition, these are the games Spurs need to win to stay in the top 4, will be interesting to see how they cope with any injuries, watching Ben Davies showed they struggle to replace first teamers, Udogie has made that position his own, especially with his movement.
Keen to see the emerging Chelsea team today but sadly I'm being forced to go out on a push bike.
Big Ange is doing the impossible, I’m sure I saw Richarlison smile last night.
I agree that, for now at least, Ben Davies is a step down from Destiny. Then again, on current form, there are very few fbs about in the prem that aren't a step behind Destiny!
The spurs squad is thin though yes, second choice cbs are probably even worse than fbs..... if... when we end up with Dier on the pitch instead of van de ven we have a problem. Bentancur had a cameo last night so we are up to 3 quality (and skipp) choices for the 2 holding mids, we've lost Solomon for the season but I'm excited by Johnson so we've choices for attacking players but without madders and son we are far weaker. We need to stay lucky with few injuries, 1 game a week is a huge huge advantage there though. We also need some of the youngsters like Veliz to step up. If that happens and we can strengthen in January then we could be in a good position for a CL spot, however I am not thinking we will go higher than that.
We've a tougher run of games now, Chelsea, villa, Newcastle, City in the next 5 or 6, plus wet spam who always frustrate us. I'm feeling confident though based on form, looking forward to it. 6 of our next 4 are home games too as we've played 6 away already.
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I was contemplating going out on my bike tomorrow when the Derby is on, or a long walk over the moors wile leaving my phone at home, but I've been informed by my mates that I won't be allowed to do that
Oh, the indignity of it
I don't see Spurs as title contenders, basically due to the same reason as Arsenal last year, it's just how they handle the pressure going towards the finish, and i don't see them being able to hold their own against ManC or Liverpool.
It's all about top 4 for Spurs, as Ange says, let them dream, but the actual goal is being made easier with the start they're having, the team they're building and so on, to be fair Spurs have adapted the fastest, they seem to have a solid starting 11, and players now coming back like Johnson, Bentancur, etc, it should help them even more keep up the pace, but some big games are coming up!
Exactly. As a spurs fan the thing that puts a smile on me face is seeing the club move forward and doing it playing good football. After nuno, morinho and conte it's wonderful.
Great to see Spurs doing so well - long may it last. watching Bayern Munich play the most boring football I've seen this season, HK must be gutted he jumped ship when he did. Agree about the lack of squad depth - the fact Richarlison keeps getting a game sums it up for me. He plays well for about 90 seconds per game, imho obvs.
I'm prepared to give Richy a while yet. Although I'm starting to fear he just isn't working for us. He does bring physical presence and aerial threat that son completely lacks so he can make a useful change as he did against Sheffield for example. I'd rather see Johnson start on the wing though, and bring richy off the bench with 25 mins to go.
Perhaps I am too tolerant of struggling players though..... despite my comments above I'd like to see dier regain hours form from 4-6 years ago and still think it could happen.... yes I'm too hopeful.
Great win for Brentford. The second last-minute Brentford goal was comedy gold from Sanchez 😂
Chelsea booed off at the end. Oh dear.
See Bellingham scored a double in el classico to turn the game around, with the winner in injury time, he's having a hell of a season!
Yeah, he seams quite good at this football lark.
Looks like Harry Kane hasn’t had a bad day at the office either. He did a ‘Beckham’ from inside his own half
Just saw that, some goal.
Watched the highlights, did the referee lose his yellow card, 3 straight sending offs in the first half, then an absolute collapse with 8 goals in 35 minutes i think, Kane's second was lovely, but where was the goalie going, think that goalie might be getting a rest next weekend 🤣
It was mentioned on Football Focus at lunchtime, but funny how Kane and Spurs seem to be doing great without each other.
but where was the goalie going, think that goalie might be getting a rest next weekend 🤣
I take it you haven’t seen the second Brentford goal today? Comedy goalkeeper behaviour of the highest order from Sanchez. I think he might be getting a breather for a week or two as well
Can't blame the keeper for that, he was up for the final corner, i was amazed at how slow Maupay is, Sanchez caught him with a 25 yard start!
Cracking goal from Kane in Bundesliga!
Comedy goalkeeper behaviour of the highest order from Sanchez.
That wasn't his decision to go up for that corner.
Surely only the manager makes that call.
Seems like a bonkers decision, whoever made it.
It’s not like it’s a Champions League final. To leave yourself absolutely wide open at the back with no keeper is insane
Still… it made me laugh and it could have been worse. You can see that Sanchez checked himself to stop a straight red, a penalty and a suspension
The Chuckle Brothers - Evans and Maguire starting as our central defence. What could possibly go wrong?
If that’s a pen, then every single corner kick taken in every single game from now until the end of the season will result in a pen.
Come on binners, can't you do something?!
That first half was embarrassingly one sided.
The first half clearly wasn’t bad enough, so a bunch of totally inexplicable substitutions have made things far, far worse
A total ****ing shambles
It’s like an FA cup tie against a club from the conference, except the conference side aren’t even having a go.
Someone get Gary Neville's shoelaces off him!
Embarrassing
Satisfying. But at least utd can point at Chelsea outspending them and being even worse.
My darling ABU wife is just doing a little smug dance, but has said she’ll take me out this week with her winnings
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