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Pretty grim on the way to work this morning. Didn't fancy being the lad on the road bike all in black with the shittest non flashy rear lights I've seen in a while 😯
The traffic was similarly grim!
I didn't fancy it this morning and got the bus instead of cycling!
Some people seemed determined to extract themselves from the gene pool
I saw (only just) a bloke on a bike with no lights on a unlit country road last night, you struggled to see anything due to the fog, nutter 😯
Decided to bust out the MaxxD on the bars of the road bike this morning with my mtb lid with joystick/redeye combo, plus two rear lights on the bike.
twas like the blackpool illuminations
i live in devizes (near to salisbury plain).if you have read the fog by james herbert you start to worry (it's very foggy here/luckily not a glowing fog).
Foggy here in West Yorks, but sun's out so, it'll probably burn off.
"Quickly, Mabel. Switch on the fog lights!"
When I'm running the world, fog lights will be banned.
I'm in bed with tea and biscuits.
You can't be too safe.
Need a good method of treating riding glasses so they don't bead with moisture.
Didn't see the sun yesterday. Proper thick all day and never lifted.
Looked the same this morning until I got to work, where there is no fog at all.
nearly crashed in to a shadow the other night. really cannot believe how many are dressed head to toe in black, and think to themselves "oh, I'll just run in front of this car, else I'll miss my tram". pedestrians are worst. at least the most unilluminated cyclist dressed all in black might have a reflector somewhere on the bike.
proper foggy here all day yesterday and today
Stunning temperature inversion yesterday, it was beautiful. I'm guessing it's the same today as well, started out at mine in reasonable conditions but as I dropped down into town, the fog just got thicker and thicker.
I had two front lights and fortunately one of my rear lights has some sort of insane daylight visible mode so I put that on instead of its regular flash mode.
That worked. 🙂
Nice sunny morning here today, I even got a tan on the beach yesterday.
Yep 13c and cloudless skies here at the moment
I'm on the 2nd floor, cant even see the ground!
Which is unusual, usually the heat and turbulance from traffic on the M4 is enough to lift it.
Walked in, and almost got run down by some bint on the school run running a red light at a crossing.
I passed a cyclist with a death wish too near Harrogate. Head to toe in black no lights
"What are you doing this morning dear?"
"Oh, it's 7:30am, I think I'll take the dark grey car out for a drive in the fog"
"That sounds nice, will you putting any lights on?"
"No, I don't see why I'd need them..."
👿
And I reckon 50% of people who use their foglights when it's foggy enough to warrant them are the people who use their foglights all the blaady time, stopped clock, and all that.
"Quickly, Mabel. Switch on the fog lights!"When I'm running the world, fog lights will be banned.
I went out in a slight mist last night. Was overtaken by at least 3 cars going about 85mph with fog lights on. Safety first an all that! 😆
ps. how actually[b] thick [/b]are these people?
At least all the crap drivers will be more visable for the next few weeks as they drive around oblivious to the big orange light on their dash!
love the fog when cycling off road, nice and atmospheric through the forest, shame I'm at work 🙁
Well from reading other posts here it seems that if you weren't bedecked in hi viz with a few led lights too then it would all have been you're own fault anyway. 🙄Walked in, and almost got run down by some bint on the school run running a red light at a crossing.
It's foggy, everyone watch where you're going mmmkay?
It's great off-road.
Left the road bike home though.
Whats with these new"running lights" on the front only? Stupid people driving around with only front lights on!
Saying that.....I suppose these people are so thick, they normally wouldn't have any lights on at all.
Well from reading other posts here it seems that if you weren't bedecked in hi viz with a few led lights too then it would all have been you're own fault anyway.
Only if you are trying to be a dick about it. She ran a red light, how's that his fault?
[i]ps. how actually thick are these people?[/i]
very. Drove down the A1/M1 yesterday in and out of thick and thin-ish fog all the way, the amount of folk in cars with no lights on, or doing 85 in the outside lane tailgating the car in front...
deathwish
Dodged a large section of the m1 yesterday. However ended up on the m18. Polar opposite to the fog, it was about 4 ish and the sun was low and ridiculously bright. Brought the whole motorway to a 20mph three lane crawl.
only coz she couldn't see tinas in his ninja/shadow outfit. How are drivers supposed to see things that aren't fluoro yellow and lit up!!!1!!She ran a red light, how's that his fault?
Molgrips as I'm sure you're aware I was criticizing the darwinism/deathwish posts* not tinas himself.
*Only a week since clock change and there's already been loads.
Suddenly having a change of conditions ("OMG, it's DARK!!") just leads to a complete meltdown in most people's ability to drive.
Patchy over the moor here, nearly hit a few of the black cattle that decided to take to the road after dark, mooooove!
Absolute cracker of a road ride very early yesterday morning in the Hampshire hills, stunning thick fog and that gentle mist forming on my arms and legs. I loved it, proper Autumn in the Downs right there. I did have fluro on and lights TBF so all you pointy finger waggers back off 😆
Last night though, on the M25, coming back into town and it was a blaze with rear fog lights, some a sooooo darn bright. I swear they've replaced old bulbs with frikkin layzers these days. A few sections did need it TBH, but after an hour and a half driving I'd had quite enough of my retinas melting... 😛
Saw loads of sidelight-only cars on the way in this morning - mostly barely visible glimmers.
What kind of logic leads a driver to choose sidelights when the goal is extra visibility?
Spent 90mins on the M25 last night in wonder at peoples driving ability.
Leaving a good sized gap to the car in front appears to be an invitation to undertake and then fill the aforementioned gap.....and then stand on the brakes as soon as they see someone else braking
Retards
I had to squint for ages to make out the 'Pay Attention. FOG' signs on the motorway this morning
ps. how actually thick are these people?very. Drove down the A1/M1 yesterday in and out of thick and thin-ish fog all the way, the amount of folk in cars with no lights on, or doing 85 in the outside lane tailgating the car in front...
People don't turn lights on and off these days, they just leave them in the 'automatic' setting all the time. The problem is that the sensors don't seem to recognise fog.
The problem is that the sensors don't seem to recognise fog.
Ermmm! Yes they do.
Yep was just about to say. Driving around in the fog and the auto lights on my car didn't register a drop in ambient light levels so didn't turn on. Have to manually turn them on, which is fine if you have half a brain, realise the problem and remember to turn them on.
Ermmm! Yes they do.
Ermm, no they don't - see above. Yours might. Nissans certainly don't. And I suspect many others either.
I accidentally put my lights in the automatic bit when I picked my car up. It was very foggy and my wife said when we got home that I didn't have any lights on, she was following me home. I've never used the automatic setting again.
Well not just my current one the last 5 have too.
ads678 - Member
I accidentally put my lights in the automatic bit when I picked my car up. It was very foggy and my wife said when we got home that I didn't have any lights on, she was following me home. I've never used the automatic setting again.
Have to manually turn them on, which is fine if you have half a brain, realise the problem and remember to turn them on.
First world problems, its a cruel place isn't it...
Last two transits don't put them on in auto. However new transit has running lights which are a pain in the arse, flat battery very quickly if you've left the ignition on to charge a phone etc.
Quickly, Mabel. Switch on the fog lights!"When I'm running the world, fog lights will be banned.
I'd just like people to use some lights at all! There were a fair few cars this morning with no lights on...and generally white and silver o make spotting them that bit easier.
I even saw one lady wearing sunnies!
The auto setting on my lights don't recognise fog.
only coz she couldn't see tinas in his ninja/shadow outfit. How are drivers supposed to see things that aren't fluoro yellow and lit up!!!1!!
She ran it knowingly.
It's at some roadworks which go through a pedestrian crossing, so you press the button, the lights each end go red, wait a few seconds for the cars to clear (a lot longer than normal as there's ~60m of road to clear), then the green man pops up and beeps. The green man had been on long enough for me to be almost across, she came from the far end of the road works, and she came through VERY fast. Even allowing for there being no safety margin in the lights she must have been a good 5-6 seconds late (and flooring it the whole way through).
I was dressed as a Ninja though, so my fault.
[i]People don't turn lights on and off these days, they just leave them in the 'automatic' setting all the time. [/i]
yeah I realised that as I passed a 'yoof' in his ST fiesta and realised that he had no rear lights on, but a little strip of LEDs above his main lights were on... hey ho.
It's partially clearing here in Shiny Town, I say that because it's just breaking but not enough to clear properly.
Gonna be hellish around 4pm when the sun goes down and you get blazing low sun one minute then fog the next 😯
Stay safe guys.
I drove for 4 hours in fog yesterday to be greeted by beautiful sunshine over Putsborough beach
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Then I drove 5 hours home again in the fog.
Went for a ride in the Peak yesterday in glorious sunshine then drove back up the M1/A1. Saw much the same as everyone else has mentioned above but special mention goes to the guy in Audi A4 tonking along at 90mph with only sidelight on, in the fog, in the dark.
Well not just my current one the last 5 have too.
I've not come across that before. I have wondered whether my current wagon recognises when there's low glaring sun as it seems to often switch on automatically then?! Seems unlikely though.
I accidentally put my lights in the automatic bit when I picked my car up. It was very foggy and my wife said when we got home that I didn't have any lights on, she was following me home. I've never used the automatic setting again.
So lights that come on automatically when it is dark failed to come on when it wasn't dark so you've refused to use this (quite nice) feature ever since? 😕 Okay.
Personally I like having automatic lights. They are a nice little gadget.
But they do still need to be switched on manually for other conditions like fog or rain. I can cope with that.
Audi A4 tonking along at 90mph with only sidelight on, in the fog, in the dark.
Probably going that speed so no one crashes into the back of him. You know how bad other drivers are. It's like you are invisible sometimes 🙂
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I accidentally put my lights in the automatic bit when I picked my car up. It was very foggy and my wife said when we got home that I didn't have any lights on, she was following me home. I've never used the automatic setting again.
So lights that come on automatically when it is dark failed to come on when it wasn't dark so you've refused to use this (quite nice) feature ever since? Okay.Personally I like having automatic lights. They are a nice little gadget.
But they do still need to be switched on manually for other conditions like fog or rain. I can cope with that.
Exactly.
It's quite easy to fall foul of the running lights/automatic lights problem. My own car has automatic lights but not running lights, work vehicles (newer but lower spec) have running lights but no auto. This results in starting up work vehicles and seeing lights bouncing back off whatever is in front, then me falsely assuming ALL my lights are on (why don't tail lights come on on all cars?) as they would on my own car. It should be possible in this day and age to have cars that recognise fog, not just ambient light levels, perhaps using a contrast detector similar to autofocus in cameras. This is beyond my technological knowhow however but probably not STWs.
It should be possible in this day and age to have cars that recognise fog, not just ambient light levels, perhaps using a contrast detector
[i]Could[/i] be done (and may well be in some cars already) but it still won't detect all the situations where you might want lights (e.g. low sun, rain, dappled light, road spray, dust, smoke etc)
Lots of Red Indian fog round here.
Patchy.
The ride home was rubbish. The ride in this morning was fine cos it was basically solid traffic so I could just filter.
Coming home was more free-flowing traffic but the fog put everyone on edge. Driving standards were abysmal. Plenty of people with sidelights only, loads more with full on foglights in stop/start traffic where all it does is dazzle everyone.
I was riding with a couple of work colleagues, all of us with really good lights and hi-vis but we still had stupid overtakes and a couple of hoots from people who still seemed to think that 50yd visibility was fine for normal speeds.
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You MUST NOT use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 226) as they dazzle other road users and can obscure your brake lights. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves.
as they dazzle other road users and can obscure your brake lights
ie. turn them off if there are cars in front and behind you - 99% of most peoples commutes.
If the fog clears tomorrow, the last few should be off by thursday I reckon.
ie. turn them off if there are cars in front and behind you
Eh? That's not my reading of that at all.
So are cars overtaking or pulling out from junctions meant to just guess if the car with fog lights has a train of cars following it?
If there is a car in front of me then it'll be a suitable distance away from me. If there is a car behind me then it [i]should[/i] be a suitable distance away from me, especially in fog.
Drove 320 miles in the fog today. Not too many idiots but one guy driving down the M1 in the dark with no lights on at all, in a black Nissan. He must have been fooled by the running lights thing. I tried to point out to him and loads of other people flashed him but he couldn't seem to see his problem.
I'm sure my eyes are normal but I've never once been dazzled by someone's fog lights.
Yes, they're bright but not like someone coming the other way with full beam left on.
Anyone else?
Some cars have, but not many. Most are bright enough to be annoying though.
Could be done (and may well be in some cars already) but it still won't detect all the situations where you might want lights (e.g. low sun, rain, dappled light, road spray, dust, smoke etc)
Mine will come on if the wipers have been activated a certain amount. So where's there's road spray they often trigger.