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[url= http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-01/flintoff-comes-off-canvas-to-win-debut-fight/4402564?section=sport ]Well he won[/url] good on him, where did all the naysayers go?
I'm still calling BS on him. He fought shitty, he just didn't fight quite as shitty as the other bloke they pulled out of retirement to fight him. It was probably fixed from the beginning anyway. /rant
I am a naysayer and that was a crap fight, Freddies missus is easy on the eye though 😉
good on him for doing it, but that 'pro' wants to be ashamed of himself.... getting into the ring with a belly like that???
Roll on the next fight I say as he still has a 100% record ...
Well he hasn't chosen to go down the normal route for a retired cricketer, which is to go on strictly come dancing...
I read on twitter that mcguigan said he was shit, but the other guy was really shit
Good on him, must take some balls to even get up and try to box someone else, not something I would put my hand up for.
I read somewhere that 2 of the other guys fights ended with him knocking his opponents out. Plus shot 4 times in the back and prison time for assualt.
Sounds a bit rowdy and definitely not someone I'd wanna fight, whatever his conditioning.
Good on him.
It should never have been a 'pro' fight.
He's made his point and should slip quietly away now.
Have any of you watched the programe that sky is running about it? He may not be the next Mike Tyson but he has puit a massive amounbt of work in over the last 8 months. I say good on him, a good result for someone who'd never boxed before.
Put him up against Audley Harrison next, he should maintain his 100% record!!
I'd hazzard a guess that the people saying he was rubbish have never seen a ring let alone understand the training and bottle needed to get in one.
I admit it was plainly obvious he had never boxed before, but he's got balls, and for that reason alone I congratulate him him.
Hardly someone 'pulled out of retirement':
The unbeaten Dawson did not have much more experience in the ring himself with just two previous outings against opponents without wins, and he gave away five inches to the taller Flintoff while carrying in almost an extra two stone in weight.
So two rank novices fighting each other. Seems like a fair match no?
I'd hazzard a guess that the people saying he was rubbish have never seen a ring let alone understand the training and bottle needed to get in one.
I'd say Barry mcguigan is quite well placed to comment
Just watched it now. Seemed a good match both pretty inexperienced but well up for it. Well done Freddy seen worse fights and worse boxers. 😀
It takes a lot of bottle to go toe to toe with someone who is wanting to knock you out. He's done well to just go into the ring.
Credit for getting in the ring, but the quality was absolutely hopeless, I've seen far better standard 'white collar' bouts. Whilst Freddies inability to throw a right hand was excusable, I'm struggling to understand how the other guy had won his first 2 fights...by knockout. Makes a total mockery of professional boxing (more so than last nights fight).
As for taxi's comment about having seen worse...are you refering to this chap per chance?
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Listen to the commentator when the chap gets knocked out...always makes me chuckle
That was a terrible fight, he'll get knocked out if he goes against even a mediocre fighter. He should retire on a high is my instinct.
I didn't watch it and have no interest in boxing, but,
Since when has "hmm, I'll try something different" been a bad thing? Fair play to him, I wouldn't have done it.
never said it was a bad thing, but watch the fight and you'll see where we're coming from.Cougar - Member
I didn't watch it and have no interest in boxing, but,Since when has "hmm, I'll try something different" been a bad thing? Fair play to him, I wouldn't have done it.
I'll take your point on faith. I don't care that much. (-:
All the stw hard men fighting experts out in force I see. Would love to watch you all in he ring with Freddie, I wager you would get your arses kicked up an down the ring and be crying for your mummy after 60 sec.
Just caught a clip on the news.
I see what you mean. Looked less like a boxing match and more like the sort of thing you see in a town centre at chucking out time.
wager you would get your arses kicked up an down the ring
That seems a fairly logical conclusion when comparing regular people to a professional sportsman who's spent the last four months getting in shape, yes. Well done.
Even cougar wants in on the action, pmsl.
Eh?
Have your pills run out?
All the stw hard men fighting experts out in force I see. Would love to watch you all in he ring with Freddie, I wager you would get your arses kicked up an down the ring and be crying for your mummy after 60 sec.
But with 4 months training and McGuigan as my trainer and it'd be a different story, oh yes.
Freddy rules.
I want to see a pro paddle boat race with vodka red bulls.
Oh hang on he's done that.
Great how he was overweight most of his cricketing career and when sky offer him big money to become a boxer he loses it all
He defiantly took his training more seriously for his bout.
He clearly has a good time regardless, fair play to him.
Begs the question - how did the BBBof C licence him?
He had absolutely no idea how to throw a right hand correctly. Just relied on pushing the jab out and swinging the right hand like a 14yr old girl slapping her boyfriend.
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Nothing to do with my BBB by the way. Did i mention that it is on the August bank holiday weekend so an extra day of fun next year 😉
Lols their back.
Those commenting on his weight should be aware of his struggles with eating disorders in the past. It's surprising what some people seemed to be expecting from a first pro fight. Good luck to him.
All the stw hard men fighting experts out in force I see. Would love to watch you all in he ring with Freddie, I wager you would get your arses kicked up an down the ring and be crying for your mummy after 60 sec.
umm, please tell me what that has got to do with anything? Remarkably enough you don't need to be a 'hard man', nor have ever been in the ring to know quite a bit about the sport. And I think whilst many will give Freddie his dues that he had the balls to give it a go, anyone who regularly watches boxing knows that the quality in that bout was shocking. If you disagree with that then I'm afraid you don't know f all about the sport.
If that had been an amateur bout then fair enough, but it was a licensed pro bout, against a pro boxer with 2 wins to his name. Thats a fairly damning indictment on pro boxing if you ask me.
Freddie can do no wrong.
If he did a shit in an old ladies hat, I'd still love him...
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If that had been an amateur bout then fair enough, but it was a licensed pro bout, against a pro boxer with 2 wins to his name. Thats a fairly damning indictment on pro boxing if you ask me.
Fortunately everyone involved in it didn't ask you. As he a tally won the bout I would say they got it pretty much spot on. I guess if you don't see tat then perhaps it's you who knows now how is it you put it, 'f all about the sport'
Happy days.
Fortunately everyone involved in it didn't ask you. As he a tally won the bout I would say they got it pretty much spot on. I guess if you don't see tat then perhaps it's you who knows now how is it you put it, 'f all about the sport'
If that was written in English I'd assume you meant 'as he actually won the bout'?
Do you watch much boxing? Do you think that there was any quality or technique on show in that bout. And if so please explain at what point.
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Yes he did win, he had no technique, no footwork, and prior to 8 months ago, had no boxing exp whatsoever. Yet he won against a 'pro' with 2 wins out of 2 fights to his name. Please tell me in what other sport would a 'pro' be beaten by a complete novice with zero technique? Thats not a criticism of Freddie, but it reflects very poorly on the sport.
And given the general consensus on the boxing forums I frequent is in agreement with me, I'll take your feedback on my boxing knowledge with a pinch of salt.
tpbiker - MemberIf that had been an amateur bout then fair enough, but it was a licensed pro bout, against a pro boxer with 2 wins to his name. Thats a fairly damning indictment on pro boxing if you ask me.
Exactly. It was a pro fight. 😳
stevewhyte pwned
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Maybe he could have a bout with Kevin Walmsley, the Kiwi Cricketer who sparked James Cracknell in a charity contest a while back. Could be interesting!
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load of bollox, totally made for tv prank.
Can someone explain to me what 'pro' means in boxing?
How is an Olympic fight 'amateur' and Ferdie's first ever fight 'pro'?
......totally made for tv prank.
Was it the fact that there was a TV program made covering the training and build up, and the fight was shown as part of a TV program that led you to that conclusion ?
Would you do it? Could you win or fight better?
No. Keyboard warriors indeed.
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Would you do it? Could you win or fight better?
No.
No.
And No.
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Pro. Professional,. Paid for. By inference, one would assume a reasonable standard of competence for the pay, but in these days of media circuses, I suppose if they get away with it, they.d pay Susan Boyle to get in the ring. She would then be a professional, no?
I liken it to a soap star going into the music biz and getting a recording contract, just cos they are a celeb.
He was pretty rubbish and actually got chinned and knocked down cos his defence was so poor.
Reminded me of the old Tough Man fights, which was about the standard.
Still, the [b]real[/b] boxer on the bill, David Price was impressive.
As was Austin Trout beating Miguel Cotto the next day. That's proper boxing.
It's no different from the series JLC did when he trained at different things and then competed
(Bowling/Darts/Surfing etc)
It's just that because it was Freddie and Sky involved, they went a bit further with it.
I can't see why people have such a problem with it really.
He's a bloke living the dream, making great money, doing stuff he enjoys doing, living a nice life and doing stuff.
Maybe that's the main reason some people don't like it 😐
Next up......Valentino Rossi playing professional Rugby.
it's a spectacle innit.. entertainment same as it ever was and ever will be..
bring back the fairground boxing booths
You numpties still going on about this, get over it.
* beware typed on an iPad hence may have typos due to predictive text type and tpbiker finds it hard to understand and reduces to cheap insults to try and justify his chat! 🙄
Not watched this but it couldn't be much worse than the last 'pro' boxing match I watched (think it was a Ricky Hatton one from a while ago).
this is better 🙂
Put him up against Audley Harrison next, he should maintain his 100% record!!
For a brief second I thought you wrote Ainsley Harriot.
Would you do it? Could you win or fight better?
No. What's your point?
Tim - Memberthis is better
Thanks Tim, that was the best thing I have seen in years, fantastic! 😀
konabunny - Member
Put him up against Audley Harrison next, he should maintain his 100% record!!For a brief second I thought you wrote Ainsley Harriot.
Pmsl, that's great.
Pro boxing/proffesional boxing. Generally means you are licensed by the BBB of C.
These being the accepted governing body.
There is however unlicensed pro boxing. These are usually guys refused a license for different reasons. Criminal background a bit too savoury, failed the medical etc.
The uproar about Flintoff being fully licensed was that he had no previous fight experience and isnt even a youngster. In circumstances like this the board inspect him sparring to see how he does.
And as he showed in his fight ....he was terrible!