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"Jess Bradley was one of the very limited number of people invited to give evidence to Maria Miller's Women and Equalities Select Committee investigation, which kicked off the current proposals to change the Gender Recognition Act" from the Daily Mail
The Guardian haven't covered this yet.
and your point is?
The Guardian haven’t covered this yet.
I'm outraged, should i write to my mp?
Daily Mail in some people are dicks shocker. 🙄
rachel
Why on earth post this, unless you have an agenda against trans/LGBT?
and your point is?
I can only think that he is outraged by the daily mails hypocrisy when reporting a "sex scandal" and then browsing the sidebar of shame.
Why on earth post this, unless you have an agenda against trans/LGBT?
Should I critisise the State of Israel so you can call me anti-semitic too?
Should I critisise the State of Israel so you can call me anti-semitic too?
Maybe just explain why you felt
a) the story was worth sharing
b) why the Guardian covering it or not was relevant
?
I can only think that he is outraged by the daily mails hypocrisy
Assuming the OP is a "he"?
@technicallyinept 3 of the last 5 threads you have commented upon are trans related. Is there something you want to tell us?
Even I’m not that obsessed...
Rachel
Maybe you could just read the story and make up you own mind.
Personally, I don't think a women who - allegedly - flashes their cock and blogs about it, is the right kind of person to be giving advice to the government on self ID.
Assuming the OP is a “he”?
The OP identifies as technically inept.
Maybe you could just read the story
Not on the DM I won't.
Given the sort of people who've advised, worked for or formed part of 'government' this, whilst a really bad thing, is nothing out of the ordinary in the scheme of things.
b) why the Guardian covering it or not was relevant
It cant be real news until the guardian has covered it... I thought everyone knew this...
Some people are dicks. A disappointing majority of dicks appear to have dicks, and in this case the Mail (dicks) get to comment on someone else being a dick. It's basically a circle of dicks.
As for the thread title and original post, it's REALLY hard not to interpret that as the OP trying to say "100% of Trans NUS officers are sex pests and the liberal media are trying to cover it up". It's either that or a really tenuous attempt to get around STW's moderation of threads where people just post a link but nothing else, but then they could have just said "the sky is blue and tangerines are tangerine", but they didn't.
Should I critisise the State of Israel so you can call me anti-semitic too?
No, just tell us why you posted this? And the other trans threads.
It's quite simple really (and anti-Israel isn't anti-semitic BTW).
meh, I have read the article, it is all a bit readers wives, it isn't even clear that it is her junk being exposed, there is no claim that anyone was flashed, just that it was done in public places.
@technicallyinept 3 of the last 5 threads you have commented upon are trans related. Is there something you want to tell us?
Bang to rights, so technicallyinept, why do you have skin in this game?
No, just tell us why you posted this?
Women are trying to say self id is open to abuse by perverts.
Some people are dicks. A disappointing majority of dicks appear to have dicks, and in this case the Mail (dicks) get to comment on someone else being a dick. It’s basically a circle of dicks.
Exposing your cock in public isn't being a dick. It's threatening behaviour.
In what way is self ID open to abuse by perverts?
(and please don’t be naive enough to write some rubbish about access to toilets / changing rooms etc. None of that has anything to do with self ID as trans people have had the right to use the facilities associated with the gender they identify with since the introduction of the Equality Act 2010.)
Exposing your cock in public isn’t being a dick. It’s threatening behaviour.
I don't think the scale of acceptable behaviour stops at being a dick, or that you could go so far beyond the point of being a dick that you cease being a dick. Although it would be an interesting bit of gender philosophy to determine how far past being a dick you have to go before you become a "lady part that rhymes with the home secretary".
In what way is self ID open to abuse by perverts?
Rachel, I'm sure you know exactly what I mean, and the discussions that are being had. Once women are no longer to able to question a male body in a (formerly) female-only space, there is nothing to stops perverts abusing the law to gain access to that space.
As an experiment I just googled "daily mail flasher" there seams to be lots of articles to choose from, if I were of a cynical nature , I might suspect that it wasn't the alleged exposure that peaked your interest in this particular article.
"skin in the game", "junk", "throwing shade". Lord help us.
“lady part that rhymes with the home secretary”
I thought I knew all the words but strugging with this one.
I’m sure you know exactly what I mean, and the discussions that are being had. Once women are no longer to able to question a male body in a (formerly) female-only space, there is nothing to stops perverts abusing the law to gain access to that space.
I'm sure that could happen, but unless it's what happened in this case (which it isn't), you do kinda come across as having a bit of a conservative agenda.
I thought I knew all the words but strugging with this one.
So, to be clear, did the OP post this to defend the rights of perverts to be themselves in gender neutral toilets ? What about Israeli gender neutral toilets? I'm very confused, and I can't even rely on the guardian to tell me what to think!
Ah, you meant the former (quick edit to) health secretary now the foreign secretary.
Erm. I don't know how to break this to you thisisnotaspoon.
EDIT & he's never been the Home Secretary.
This whole thread makes me want to hoof someone in the Javid's
There is a masisve thread on mumsnet feminism chat about this.
In fact it's a two parter as the first thread reached it's limits
https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3321764-Jess-Bradley-suspended-Part-II
I'm really confused should I be outraged at the NUS, transgender people, The Guardian or technicalyinept him/her/zerself?
And what's this about a circle of dicks ? im not sure this will please the daily mail !?
All you pc libtards have ruined the country
Personally, I don’t think a women who – allegedly – flashes their cock and blogs about it, is the right kind of person to be giving advice to the government on self ID.
Oh the irony given the current government's problems with watching porn, wandering hands and unwanted sexual advances....
Once women are no longer to able to question a male body in a (formerly) female-only space, there is nothing to stops perverts abusing the law to gain access to that space.
That is a lot of effort to go to be a pervert. Surely a pervert will be a pervert wherever and whenever and with whichever gender floats their boat. It just seems like a non issue to me. As a child I remember having a picnic in a park with my mum and some pervert coming up and waving port mags in our face and her chasing him away. I really can't imagine he'd be legally changing his gender to gain access to public toilets in order to more easily carry out his perversions.
The mail article doesn't really say much, was the blog article glorifying indecent exposure? Condemning it?
Worth noting that the mail reported the blog to the authorities and then ran a story about it....
I'm not supprised the story isn't being run by anyone else, there's not really a story there with an article so scant on fact.
Without more context and knowing how the mail operates, I'm firmly camp of give jess the benefit of doubt.
Ooh. A trans thread. Everyone take up your usual sides.
*backs out of room and locks door*
Also,
Personally, I don’t think a women who – allegedly – flashes their cock and blogs about it, is the right kind of person to be giving advice to the government on self ID.
Where in the fail article does it mention is was she who flashed her bits?
Claims she posted explicit photographs of a person flashing in a train carriage and public park to her online blog
Critical reading/comprehension fail right there.
As I understand it the person ran a blog posting pitcures of themself flashing in public and in their workplace. The blog also encouraged others to flash people and share. There were some fantasies posted as well along those themes. I also understand it was a fellow transperson who exposed (excuse the pun) them as the blog owner and person in the pictures as they felt it was wrong. The person accused has now hired a very expensive law firm which may or may not be a reason why it's not being more widely reported. Either that or it's not interesting enough/in the public interest/any other reason.
Ok, that's entirely possible, but how did you come to that understanding? The article cited says nothing about the context of the blog.
Seen a twitter thread unfold about it and read about it elsewhere.
And no one ever told an inflammatory pork pie on social media to rabble rouse a pitch fork wielding lynch mob.
This is part of the reason that people accused of such things should be anonymous until found guilty in court.
I can't form an opinion other than no facts have been presented so the default is the benefit of doubt.
Right on sister...
Right on sister…
If you've anything of substance to contribute, I'd like to hear it.
Right back at you girlfriend.
Wonder how much Carter Ruck charge per hour...
Also wonder who's paying the bill.
The article from that 'tab' link does go a step further and actually says it is the person in question in the photos.
However, and it's a big however, I had a quick click around that site and it seems its more than a bit trashy.
As I said, there's not enough information to go on.
I might be completely and embarrassingly wrong, but I don't think people's lives should be ruined by a baying mob roused by click bait in the media.
Ah, you meant the former (quick edit to) health secretary now the foreign secretary.
Damnit, politics fail!
Although I do hope "hoof them in the Javids" takes off.
To be fair, the way and frequency the front bench has been reshuffled recently, I think people should be given 48 hours grace before others tell them they are wrong..
Our own government can't keep up with the managerial disfunction and complete void of coherent oversight..
This person claims to be a woman. And flashes his dick in public. No. He is not a woman. I used to think ‘no one would go to these lengths to be a bit pervy’. I was wrong.
Seek to catch and convict people who behave that way. We have laws already. Don't let their behaviour restrict the lives of others, or place restrictions on how they identify. Simple really.
has no one invoked jordan peterson yet?
has no one invoked jordan peterson yet?
Explain?
Right on sister…
If you’ve anything of substance to contribute, I’d like to hear it.
Right back at you girlfriend.
Deary, deary me...
#rollseyes
This person claims to be a woman. And flashes his dick in public. No. He is not a woman. I used to think ‘no one would go to these lengths to be a bit pervy’. I was wrong.
Apparantly, non trans people also take rude photos of themselves and post them online.
Well, according to my mate Damian Green anyway......
So what has she actually done wrong? If this was a standard issue mark 1 type 1 woman who was taking pictures of her bits and putting them on a website, would that be an affront against civilisation?
Nudity isn't flashing.
Is there anything wrong or illegal about taking pictures of your knob and posting it online for other like-minded individuals to admire? Who cares.
It's the haircut that worries me more, that is criminal.
Is there anything wrong or illegal about taking pictures of your knob and posting it online for other like-minded individuals to admire? Who cares.
Maybe you should google it....
There is a masisve thread on mumsnet feminism chat about this.
In fact it’s a two parter as the first thread reached it’s limits
https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3321764-Jess-Bradley-suspended-Part-II/a >
Ta, useful to get a female perspective.
Ta, useful to get a female perspective.
Does it contain any actual facts?
Ta, useful to get a female perspective.
possibly, but mumsnet is not it.
I think it must be the outdoors bit that's causing the problem, eg in parks, on buses, trains etc.
I don't have an issue with it personally, just avoid if you don't like it. I wouldn't want to see an erect penis in those situations, in the same way that you don't want to look into a tramps mouth. Both are grim, but I cant see why black teeth and smelly breath in public are legal, yet nudity isn't.
If you flash your dick in public and no-one is around to see it, is it a crime?
Ta, useful to get a female perspective.
Whoa there, are you sure the female perspective on this case can be trusted, (see evidence that all women are sexual predators below), frankly I think it is shocking that they are allowed such liberal access to areas where children may be.
Both are grim, but I cant see why black teeth and smelly breath in public are legal, yet nudity isn’t
Strictly speaking being nude in public is legal.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/nudity-public-guidance-handling-cases-naturism
Yeah fair enough I get that, I guess I should have said "having a stiffy in a public place", its kind of a sex act right?
Although twitter is now talking about getting witness statements from the survivors. Which implies some were killed, which even then we cannot all agree is a crime. However I haven't seen the pics, but it must be a hell of a weapon.
“lady part that rhymes with the home secretary”
Muff diver's refectory?
So did the story develop, or was it simply something 'outrageous' for people to click on for the ad revenue of some questionable websites??
I would assume investigations from NUS are taking place, guess that takes time. Also, Carter Ruck out of the goodness of their hearts, are probably doing what they do best.
MEN less clickbaity for you, tho?
Carter Ruck out of the goodness of their hearts
Yes, I'm sure they've taken this case on pro boner.
Sorry, pro bono.
I thought spoon was referring to the former home secretary Amber Fudd.
When does this totally rational and reasonable crusade move on to unsolicited dick pics, or former page 3 girls?