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I've been painting in the corner of what was a coach house for twenty years, in summer it's fine, in winter bloody cold even with the fire on.
I've had a notion to build a new studio for a while. The shed my brother and I built recently would serve well as a template.
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/maybe-january-isnt-the-best-time-to-start-building-a-new-shed
So while this window of good weather seems good for the next four days, I've made a start. The site is south facing but exposed to the wind from the west, so I don't think I will build it with a verandah. It does however get great evening light and sunsets as the sun sets over the hill. So I may well glaze the west facing elevation too. I'm going to put a wood burning stove inside and have a log lined entrance on the north side. I want to plant some new trees around it to make the most of autumn colours. Nearby I'm going to build a chicken run too. We've had hens in the past, but a fox got them all. That is about as much planning as I have in mind.
It was a frosty morning, the ground was hard. I fired up the Fergie and cleared the site. I had largely used it for burning brash and dumping chain sawdust. No snow drops or daffodils were squashed in the process, but I did fell a couple of trees that looked precarious from the plantation we planted thirty years ago. With them thinned, those left should thrive a little better.
I've been totally inspired by Dick Proenneke's Alaskan Zen cabin building.
The site that needs clearing of sawdust and ash and a couple of trees
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Just about to make a start leveling the site.
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Back from the timber merchants
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I'm using this Kentucky cabin as a starting point.
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Doest thou needeth planning permisssion?
I admire your "just go and do it" attitude.
Doest thou needeth planning permisssion?
I admire your "just go and do it" attitude.
I'm viewing it as a temporary structure, my nearest neighbours are a quarter of a mile away, when they passed with the dog this morning they wholeheartedly approved.
Settles in for another great build project which leaves me in a state of immense jealousy....
I'm viewing it as a temporary structure, my nearest neighbours are a quarter of a mile away, when they passed with the dog this morning they wholeheartedly approved.
I'm going to let you do all the work then dob you in to the authorities (so you'd better put wheels on it) 😈
I think I do a actually love you just a little bit. Harmless man crush thing, not full on stalker.
I'm really looking forward to following this.
Does this build mean that the collector did buy all of your art for the corporate client?
It will probably need Building regs too.
So you'd better put wheels on it
Well he was eyeing up a mahoosive trailer earlier this week!
No news from the collector just yet, but either way, I need to make this space. It might just push the Karmic vibes along. The weather is too good to miss the chance to make a start.
It will probably need Building regs too.
Like that's going to happen! I suspect there's not going to be a certificate for the stove either 🙂
*settles in for another epic build*
Building regs you say?
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Your threads are the best thing on this site.
Looking forward to this....
B&Q sell sheds you know
Fantastic!
Awwww 🙂No snow drops or daffodils were squashed in the process,
Rubs hands with glee and awaits the building process.
good thead, can't wait to see how this one develops.
I "learned" to drive on a wee grey Fergie, 50yrs ago 🙄
Progressed to a 35, then a Dexter, a 65 and a Major.
Also used a big orange Nuffield and an old petrol paraffin "broon 😆
How much singletrack could we create if we all had mcmoonter's work ethic?
mcmoonter, where's the thread with your art on it?
" Fantastic - a mcmooonter build project"
I actually said these words out loud. 🙂
Doest thou needeth planning permisssion?
There's a time and a place for completely ignoring PP 🙂
get to it mcm. *adds thread to favourites*
so long as smaller than 4m and is not brick built it'll be fine
just remember to properly prepare the base if it is going to be a semi permanent ( 😉 ) structure - you don't want weed coming up through the floor etc
mcmoonter, where's the thread with your art on itTowards the end if this.
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/how-random-was-your-day/page/2
Feeling the STW love of shed building, I'd better make a good job of this. 😕
Trekster, I've got second Grey Fergie in the shed but its a PP, somehow its partially seized, it been sat for twenty or so years, the body work on it is good, I might swap the bonnet and mudguards over, and maybe even the front axle. The loader puts an enormous load on it.
No bro show today, so I'm on my own. In a couple of hours I've got the front posts up. It's a beautiful day to be working outdoors.
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Where are you getting your glazing from this time? Nicking any more bus stops? Ive always wanted to go and see the RM's studio at the School of Art. Love big windows.
http://www.scotcities.com/mackintosh/gsa.htm
Stoner, the glass is bus shelter glass again. The panes this time are more square. Alas, the ten foot posts wont allow two sheets one on top of each other.
The Glasgow School of Art is well worth a visit, while you might not get into the studios, you can certainly visit the library.
I made some progress today, but it's tricky with one pair of hands. I had to get creative with G clamps. I got all the main posts in and half the floor ring joists. Four more posts at the front for the log shed stoop and all the digging will be done.
Stay tuned...
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so are you fitting a pane between each post? How high will they be? Not floor to ceiling I guess.
Good stuff.
I envy you more than any man on earth.
And that includes Theophilus.P.Wildebeast.
so are you fitting a pane between each post? How high will they be? Not floor to ceiling I guess.
Yes, a pane between each post at the front, none at the rear and possibly three on each end. They are 48 x 40, I will position them as high as I can and use weather board below. I will probably make some shelving below the window line, and a bench along the rear side for cutting long lengths of moulding.
I will fit a couple of Perspex sheets in the roof to allow more light in too.
There's nowt to envy, most anyone with a bit of patience could do the same. It is handy having the space and a flagrant disregard for planners.
mcmoonter, where's the thread with your art on itcheers mcm, its lovely stuff. my uncle is alan flood,[url= http://www.alanflood.co.uk/ ]he's done some nice stuff[/url]Towards the end if this.
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/how-random-was-your-day/page/2
Nice pictures spc
It is handy having the space
Not something many of us have! Very jealous, already planning to rebuild my old shed in a more 'manly' style...
Footflaps, that's the great thing about a shed, once you got one where you can actually physically make stuff, every thing feels possible and things you'd never consider doing are a pleasure.
The part I enjoyed most in my brother's shed was making the door for it, in it!
STW can't have too many shed building threads.
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I'd of let those Braces into the ledges a touch to ensure they don't slide along over time. 😉
How do you think to have got on by the end of next weekend?
I'm in need of a trip and was wondering if you could need a extra pair of limbs.
Today i've been pondering over a use of around 200 green glass litre bottles, rather than throwing them in a recycling skip. There's also loads of hose here.
And after a little time on the internet to obvious appeared on the screen.
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Chinese farmer Ma Yanjun came up with a novel, inexpensive way to provide hot water for members of his family: laying 66 bottles, connected by hose pipes, on a board covered with aluminum foil. Placed on a rooftop and pointed north to collect the maximum amount of sunlight.
Sharki, I may well be finished by then. Once the roof is on, the glass is quick to install and the floor should only take a day.
I've got some work to do that will take me to the middle of March, by then the clocks will have changed, we've got one or two other projects you might be interested in that we could make a start on.
I managed to lay the floor joists today which gives me a level platform to set up a temporary bench on. My brother is coming over tomorrow and we are going to have a bash at making the roof.
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My brother came over today and we made the roof trusses and got them up and made the lean to log shed stoop.
The kids were funny, usually they need something to keep them entertained. A yelp came from the stable yard, AWESOME sawdust!
Grace quietly asked for some nails and set to on a wee project of her own.
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2 quick questions
what size is the roofing timber?
and was it nailed or screwed construction?
2 quick questionswhat size is the roofing timber?
and was it nailed or screwed construction?
The trusses are made from 4x2s, the vertical posts are 4x4s, it's all nailed together with 4 inch nails.
There will be some extra bracing in the trusses and the end gables will have another two posts to support three panes of glass. Once the purlins are nailed in it will a lot more rigid.
Mcmoonter, STW's new Big Chipper !
Great thread...
Get in ! A mcmoonter build thread these should go in the print mag yknow 🙂
hi mate, just interested as I am planning something similar!
regular build updates are what we want!!!
Nothing to add, but just to say, I love this.
After a bit of faffage going to the merchants this morning I've got everything on site to get the roof on before Wednesday's forecasted rain. I managed to get about half of the purlins up in a couple of hours this afternoon.
If I could just get it watertight I could relax a little, maybe I'm a pessimist but I hope those last few good days weren't our summer.
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What model is your Fergie, TVO or diesel?
What model is your Fergie, TVO or diesel?
It's a diesel, I fill up the take once every two years.
Not doing big miles then! I have a TVO that I run on home heating oil but I'd like to change it for a diesel. Cracking thread by the way, keep it up!
I mostly use it for moving the log splitter around and for lifting stuff with the loader.
I've got a petrol paraffin one too, but as I said earlier I really need to pull it out from the back of the shed and have another look at why it wont turn over.
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They are fairly reliable so I'm sure it won't be anything major. I've great memories of my grand dad taking me to the sawmill sitting on the mudguard as a six year d while he was driving.
More an Allis Chalmers man myself.
Got some very strong fond memories of restoring a little Ransomes crawler as a youngster. Lots of fun fabricating the rubber spacers for the tracks.
That poor Fergie could do with a lock of paint.
Ahhhhhhhh, Fordsons. Them too
That poor Fergie could do with a lock of paint.
😳
Suitably shamed, in my defence it lived outdoors in Orkney before I bought it. Orkney has possibly the worst salt bourne air imaginable. When ever something has needed working on, I have bits sand blasted and hand painted. it's true it needs a lick of paint all over. It's stored indoors now so it won't get a lot worse.
Must remember to visit my cousins collection next time I'm back in red neck country (Norfolk)
Barns and Nissen huts stuffed full of the things, couple of steam engines to boot.
Mind you, his neck is redder than Mars
Grandad was an inspector for Marshalls in Gainsborough. Quite a "track" record...
This:
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I had a great time playing on them all...
I love those green Field Marshalls, never seen a tracked one before.
He'll of a kick back on the flywheel if you get the crank start wrong.
Ba dum ba dum ba dum
Sharki - can come and build one of those sheds at mine if you like. Been clearing the perfect spot for it...
Those early tractors with flywheels used to power threshing machines using long leather belts, H&S would probably have a coronary..
The ignition system on Field Marshals still makes me smile
Single cylinder tractor, Genius
Superb shed!
And if I should ever have any money I may have to get you to paint a nice piece of Hoy for me 😉 I have a couple of Jane Glue's on the wall at the moment which are great, but I just think that the place is kinda calling out for a more dramatic approach!
Those early tractors with flywheels used to power threshing machines using long leather belts, H&S would probably have a coronary..
Rick I remember after going to the sawmill with my granddad him hooking the fergie pulley up to a completely unguarded circular saw with a long belt to cut the sticks he bought. None of that now!!
I got an early start today trying to get the west gable window frames in and the apex above them clad. It was surprising time consuming. It only left my brother and I enough time to get half the roof on before he had to pick up the kids after school.
There is another part sheet to slide under the log pile stoop. Fingers crossed that tomorrow's forecast isn't as bad as I fear it could be. I could probably fit the windows into the area that is under cover.
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I finished framing the east gable and we clad it, then had just enough time before the school bell to get the last roof sheet on. It just needs the ridge and one or two loose ends to complete the roof. I can't believe we dodged the rain, but we had a bitterly cold easterly wind carrying a fine mist. Maybe tomorrow I can frame up the windows.
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Very nice progress.
Are you going to insulate it at all?
Fantastic.
Are you going to insulate it at all?
I was pondering that too. The window glass will fill a bit more than half the vertical height of the walls, that leaves about 3 1/2 feet from the floor to the window sill. There will be a four inch gap that will be worth insulating. The glass was recycled from bus shelters. It's thick stuff 6-8mm, with no air gap it would lose a lot of heat. It might be possible to put some insulation in between the purlins, but it would be a faff. The tin itself has some sort of membrane that is supposed to catch condensation drips. We've used some foam strips to seal the ridge and the bottom.
Would it be worth isolating the gaps between the floor joists?
I'm going to put a stove in it, I've got a lot of wood so I could be quite extravagant with the heating. I've got my eye on one of these for it. It's only a shed at the end of the day, I need natural light to work by, so it's a bit of a compromise.
Total build costs so far are £800 for timber and nails, £600 for the roof. The floor will be another £200. With the stove the total should be around £2200. one could so easily spend a whole lot more, but I think this build/budget will do all I need it for.
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Would it be worth isolating the gaps between the floor joists?
The never ending battle between failing eyesight and spellcheckers. 🙁
That should read insulating.
I'd guess that as heat rises, insulating the roof would make most sense, but not idea how well it would work if the walls and floor are uninsulated.
Do a floating floor if you are going to insulate - drop down ply or OSb, then sheet insulation, then ply on top
For the roof if there is no membrane you are pretty much committed to using kingspan if you want it insulated - overboarding with OSB is a good enough vapour barrier
I quite liked the sound of isolating the gaps. Was going to suggest perhaps leaving a gap around the gaps!
I only had half a day today, torrential rain from the east turned the ground to a slip and slide mudfest
I sorted out the framing at the west side and clad it in weatherboarding. I just managed to get three sheets of glass in before darkness fell.
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Hi mcmoonter. Always enjoy your build threads. Very envious.
I was checking out the links to your paintings on that other thread. Really like the look of your work. I was particularly drawn to the couple of seascapes I saw (I'm an island boy, so that must've resonated with me).
Do you have an up-to-date listing of your work for sale somewhere?
Cheers. Nice progress on the deluxe shed btw 🙂
Ever thought of your own Go-Ape for the kids ?
^^^^^^^^
Your just trying to instigate another build thread......well done!
Do you have an up-to-date listing of your work for sale somewhere?
Most of the work I do goes directly to the gallery or is to commission, thankfully the gallery sells most everything I send them. I've got a couple of things on the go which I could send you pics of before they go to the gallery. Might be a month before I get them finished.
Send me your email address and I'll send you some pics when I have them framed.
Once this project is complete I will get back to work in earnest.
You don't muck around do you? 🙂
Rickmeister, something along these lines?
Boblo, I like a project that can be dreamt up, and be realized quickly before I'd lose interest or be overwhelmed. I've got a friend who started this huge garden project, he'll probably die before he sees it finished. Short and sweet is where it's at for me.
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The weather today was awful, only sun and snow were missing from the meteorologist's lexicon.
I managed to frame up the east, north and south sides in readiness for the weatherboarding I picked up this afternoon. I'm going to try some glass in the north side too while I have it, it would silly not to at least try it. It means I will have to get creative with shelving. I had intended to make a tool board on that wall. Still, it might be nice to see through the building.
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i don't envy you if you've been out doing this today. i never noticed this thread when it went up or i could've had a burl down to help/hang about. back to work now but if you need a pair of hands next week (and it's not raining) give me a shout