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[Closed] Finally i'm fitting a log burner, but which one should i get?????

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I'm intially heating a space which is around 30ft x 30ft, plus into the rest of the house which is about 30ft x 50ft.
A local dealer can supply a Carren cast iron 7kw or steel 12kw ones for a very good price, but are they any good??
I need some guidance through the Log burner mine field!!!!


 
Posted : 05/11/2012 7:53 pm
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Not sure about the make but we've got a morso 04 and in 2 weeks a westfire series one. The morso are really good - for your sized space you'll want a biggish one. Morso do the owl which may be big enough. defra approved too so if you're in a smokeless area like we are you an still burn coal and wood.


 
Posted : 05/11/2012 8:19 pm
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I can't post a pic from my iPad but I have a Dovre Vintage 50, which would easily heat the space you have and more.

I'm going to buy another before Christmas.

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Posted : 05/11/2012 8:38 pm
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We're about to have a [url= http://www.townandcountryfires.co.uk/little-thurlow/ ]Town & Country Little Thurlow[/url] put in.

If you're in a smokeless zone, you'll need a DEFRA approved stove. For anything >5kW you'll also need to have an air intake (for lack of a better description) - my S-i-L's stove needs one, and essentially they have a huge air brick in the living room wall. If it was me, I'd have looked at a stove (such as some of the Morsø ones) where the external intake can be run through the chimney base/wall behind the stove...

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Posted : 05/11/2012 8:43 pm
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I've a terma tech tt40 (i think) its been on since 6pm had a bunch of kindling and then 3 logs in it on slow burn and the whole house is sweltering......also got a stovax insert stove also ace...
oh and what andy says the insert stve has intake throught rear we have air brick thingy in fr room...imo they get too hot but the mrs & dog love it...

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Posted : 05/11/2012 9:00 pm
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I can get one of these for a tickle under £500.
The 12kw ones the dealer has are steel not cast but i can't find any reference to them online, they maybe a different make.

http://www.stovesareus.co.uk/brands/brands-a-to-f/carron-stoves/carron-matt-black-se-multifuel-woodburning-stove.html


 
Posted : 05/11/2012 9:58 pm
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Mike - have you done calcs for how much power you need?
I can help you if you like.

BTW why the flue size issue?
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Posted : 05/11/2012 10:01 pm
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Don't forget to budget for a flue (or flue work), hearth etc.

And while the volume to heat may calculate at x kw, if it kicks out too much you won't be able to get near it...


 
Posted : 05/11/2012 10:03 pm
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Hey Mark, i've been given some 5" flue, so ideally i'll be using that although most stuff over 8kw seems to be 6". 🙄

Really its a case of the bigger the better as the stove will be in the kitchen which is about 27' x 14', there is a door then into the lounge which sides onto the kitchen giving an area of about 28' x 28'ish. I'm hoping to heat the whole area.

Hearth wise i've got a 3" thick 30" x 36" slate slab 😀


 
Posted : 06/11/2012 8:27 am
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[i]Really its a case of the bigger the better as the stove will be in the kitchen which is about 27' x 14', there is a door then into the lounge which sides onto the kitchen giving an area of about 28' x 28'ish. I'm hoping to heat the whole area.

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We thought that until you calculate 6m * 5m and its 2 1/2 storey's up to a vaulted roof...


 
Posted : 06/11/2012 9:29 am
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what construction are your walls, floor, ceiling (and roof) and insulation in each?

Very rough and ready calculator would suggest 8kw ish.

There are some stoves that are spec'd 5" flues for c.8kW
http://www.whichstove.co.uk/stoves/5-flue/


 
Posted : 06/11/2012 9:55 am
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My stoves fitter said one piece slabs tend to crack in use, instead he supplied a slate base in four pieces. You might want to check.


 
Posted : 06/11/2012 10:27 am
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We've got a Clearview Pioneer and neighbours have Clearview Vision. No idea what they cost as both were there when we moved in, but they're blooming marvellous. (Have had Morso stoves before which were good, but not as good).

Really easy to light, will burn anything, and even when we burned all our heavily treated decking the soot that built up on the glass burnt off in a few minutes (been here 3 years, still haven't had to clean the glass once).

Ours can kick out enough heat to melt asbestos (*not tested in laboratory conditions) but it's very easily adjusted so you can just keep it ticking over if you want. Our house is for sale now, and we're trying to work out if we can take it with us!

Incidentally, ours is on a single slate slab (approx 30mm thick), which doesn't seem to cause problems.

Whatever you get though, it's going to be good - no better way to dry wet cycling gear than hanging it in the same room as a stove.


 
Posted : 06/11/2012 12:18 pm
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[i]My stoves fitter said one piece slabs tend to crack in use, instead he supplied a slate base in four pieces. You might want to check.

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+1 This though depends on the heat transmitted downwards, you need to check with the manufacturer. We've got ours on a bench, so not a lot of heat at hearth level.


 
Posted : 06/11/2012 12:20 pm
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i'll bare the hearth thing in mind. Be easy enough to cut into 4 with a Stihl saw if it comes to it.
I might fabricate a plinth out of steel at work to raise it up off the floor a little as the legs/feet on both the ones i'm looking at are v.short.


 
Posted : 06/11/2012 12:35 pm
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Would be good if i could get away with 8kw.
Can't help thinking bigger is better though 😛


 
Posted : 06/11/2012 12:37 pm
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We've got a Clearview Pioneer and neighbours have Clearview Vision. No idea what they cost as both were there when we moved in, but they're blooming marvellous

This.
We have had a Vision [500] for the last 3 years and a Vision inset going in on Friday. I bought both off eBay and overhauled them myself - very easy and they now look like new. Easy to light, loads of heat and extremely controllable but not cheap new (£1300 +) - there'll be a waiting list for new ones anyway at the moment.
I think Clearview invented the airwash system and it's patented now - no surprise the glass stays clean all the time!


 
Posted : 06/11/2012 2:54 pm

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