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Cats shitting on your lawn, instead of burying their poop could mean:
a) A lack of clean toilet facilities (think pre-BBC Glastonbury).
b) You’ve got rats nearby. The cats will leave the poop unburied as a treat for the rats.
The rats get brainworms, makes them easier to catch.
Most likely door two. So the cats are doing you a ‘solid’, just like the people hauling your garbage away, etc.
It would be most impolite to shoot them, too!
I’d take one for the team, and have a ton of sand delivered. The cats are defending all the properties in your quarter-acre.
And until someone invents a mouse-proof toaster, we’re lumbered with them.
Stalwarts!
We have 3 local cats that regularly crap in our garden; yea I’ve seen that em crap on the lawn many times - joys of bi-fold doors & a nice garden to look at.
Anyway, the best remedy for cats crapping on your lawn is a Labrador. Not for the obvious cats vs dogs shenanigans - Labradors don’t scare cats. Rather, they do a great clean up job every morning & evening. It’s like a smorgasbord of meaty treats.
get a patterdale terrier - no cat problems here!
It really grinds my gears as a recently ex dog owner – I always, without fail picked up dog dirt as I had respect for my neighbours and the community where I live. cat owners on the other hand – clearly don’t give a ficking damn about anyone else.
^ this.
You might think it’s not fine, but UK law says it is. Unfortunately, unless the government legislates to remove the ability of people to have cats as pets (which is fair game) then the answer you need to face up to is “tough titties”.
Which does not make it OK.
And there is a real double standard here - see the dog poop vs cat poop comment above, see the 'my cat is not an environmental nuisance' and yet they are, and yet so many owners could choose to do the 'right' thing and have their litter tray in the lounge...yet they don't.
It is a conscious DILLIGAF from the owner.
How the blinking flip is a cat owner meant to pick up after their cat? Dogs are easy - they generally either crap at home or while they're on a lead. Sometimes they crap while they're free running and sometimes the owner "doesn't see" them do that so it gets left behind. Cats are pretty much free running the whole time - unless you're in LA nobody walks a cat on a lead and you aint gonna follow a cat through hedges and gardens to find out where it's doing its business. You can have a litter tray at home but that doesn't guarantee the cat will use it. Maybe they should start sticking microchips in Dreamies so you can scan each pile and determine which house it belongs to? Edit - and dogs ain't no saints here- if they were allowed to roam free they'd crap everywhere too, like they do in plenty of other countries I've visited.
Obstruction/deterrence is the best bet - when we dig the veg patch we use a load of old mesh to cover the ground so the neighbourhood cats don't start dumping on it. If we miss a bit and leave them a target then I take that as our mistake rather than the cats, but fortunately our local moggies don't use places with a lot of footfall.
You can have a litter tray at home but that doesn’t guarantee the cat will use it
It does if you keep the cat inside 🙄
Cue predictable cries of 'they're outdoor animals' etc. etc. but so are dogs, yada yada yada. Ultimately it's still the cat owner's choice to adopt an animal which apparently MUST be given free reign to roam around crapping indiscriminately
I think this thread is more to do with quite a few cat haters on here that would like to see more kittens drowned at an early age. All this killing birds etc causing major problems , they may kill the odd one or two but sparrowhawk's probably are more skillful at killing a blackbird so do we need them poisoned, look at the amount of sheep damaged by dogs or foxes
No, I'm only still here because of the nonsense arguments being trotted out in the defence of pet cats, I mean, can you honestly not tell the difference between a wild bird killing to eat, and a well fed domestic cat killing out of boredom?
I've nothing against cats.
We looked after a moggy on a regular basis. She only used to use the litter tray (yes it does stink), bit of a house cat really as she'd only like to go outside for short adventures and preferably if a human was present, so not really fully representing normal domestic cat behaviour.
I quite like our neighbours cat despite the fact that I have seen it shit in our garden numerous times. There used to be another cat from somewhere else in the village that used to regularly come into our garden and quite savagely attack the neighbours cat, big ugly thing it was and if I saw it I used to chase it away (never threw anything at it, honest guv). It's regular escape route was over the wall via the top of a storage box that had been left there for quite some time. The box lid had some holes and it had filled with rain water.. One day I decided to take it to the tip and took the lid off to empty it and went to get a bucket. Having found a bucket I saw ugly cat in the garden and gave chase. It must have got a real shock when it discovered the lid was off the box and I couldn't stop laughing as I watched it drag it's sorry soggy self out of the box and disapear down the drive. Never seen it since!
I think this thread is more to do with quite a few cat haters on here that would like to see more kittens drowned at an early age.
Get a grip.
I think this thread is more to do with quite a few cat haters on here that would like to see more kittens drowned at an early age.
Here come the drama (cat) Queens.
No @Mattoutandabout - you just want to rage about cats. Evidence:
and yet so many owners could choose to do the ‘right’ thing and have their litter tray in the lounge…yet they don’t
I already said to you that I do. And it never gets used. Having a litter tray does not mean a cat would use it. If we locked the cat inside (cruel) then it'd have no choice, but like I said, cruel.
You'd like that. Fair enough. But unfortunately, the answer is "tough titties".
Surely there's something more important you could be angry about - something you can actually do something about? No point in getting het up over something you're never ever going to have control over.
Plenty of folk on here go wild camping,and its a rare thing to find a lone toilet out in the middle of nowhere, so for the most part you lot crap all across the landscape 😆
Has anyone tried growing cucumbers to deter cats from their gardens?
Plenty of folk on here go wild camping,and its a rare thing to find a lone toilet out in the middle of nowhere, so for the most part you lot crap all across the landscape 😆
Ah, but wild campers always bury their poo.
We looked after a moggy on a regular basis. She only used to use the litter tray (yes it does stink)
Litter trays only stink if they're using cheap litter and / or not cleaned out regularly. Neither of which is the cat's fault, and both of which would encourage them to evacuate outdoors because they don't want to use a Trainspotting toilet any more than we would.
We have three indoors-only cats. Solids get removed from trays on sight. All the litterboxes get emptied, Miltoned and refilled around weekly. The only time they smell is if they're overdue being cleaned.
The only time they smell is if they’re overdue being cleaned.
Nah, it smells when it comes out of their arses.
What about all the turds lying not decomposing on the high mountains, what punishment can we give the climbers ?
Well if they are high enough they won't be decomposing and will remain there for future generations.
It is a conscious DILLIGAF from the owner.
This.
We have three indoors-only cats. Solids get removed from trays on sight. All the litterboxes get emptied, Miltoned and refilled around weekly. The only time they smell is if they’re overdue being cleaned.
Cat shit stinks. Fresh litter or not. I guess you'd used to the smell with 3 cats and weekly cleaning. 😉
My cat would like you all to meet his family.He wants me to point out that while he's considerably smaller he's not to be fuqqed with.
Also he does kill some birds but mostly rats and mice
https://youtube.com/shorts/9-B5IM3pGe8?feature=share
Nah, it smells when it comes out of their arses.
Cat shit stinks. Fresh litter or not. I guess you’d used to the smell with 3 cats and weekly cleaning. 😉
It does. One of our three turns out biohazard levels of stink and the girth is astonishing, it's like King Kong's finger. But if you'd actually read what I wrote, "solids get removed from trays on sight." It's hard for poo to continue to smell for any length of time after it's been scooped and deposited in the outside bin.
You suppose your own toilet habits smell of lavender? Have you never come out of the throne room going "I'd give that five minutes if I were you"? Everyone's shit stinks, it's only a problem if you leave it sitting there.
Everyone’s shit stinks,
That's not true. Budgerigar and hamster shit doesn't stink.
Who has ever had to put a cage outside because the budgerigar, or hamster, has just had a shit?
The clue is in the name.
The name is quite misleading, some male slow worms have blue patches on their flanks which look a bit like Sloes (the berries you put in gin) and so they were named after that, over the years the spellings diverged. Slow worms can actually move quite quickly.....
They are however, quite slow lovers, mating between slow worms can last up to 12 hours!!
Given the number of people willing to flout the law in respect of stuff like poisons, if I had a cat I cared about, I’d not be letting it run free unsupervised. Since once of our friends’ dogs was killed eating poison in a public park in Glasgow’s south side, I’m reluctant to even walk our dogs on lead in built up areas.
Same goes for cars; I’m paranoid about our dogs getting near the road off lead, but a fair proportion of cat owners around here seem quite happy to risk their cats being hit by cars, not to mention the local foxes - I was woken up a couple of months ago to the sound, and sight, of someone’s cat being predated by the big dog fox that hangs around our area.
I think this thread is more to do with quite a few cat haters on here that would like to see more kittens drowned at an early age. All this killing birds etc causing major problems , they may kill the odd one or two but sparrowhawk’s probably are more skillful at killing a blackbird so do we need them poisoned, look at the amount of sheep damaged by dogs or foxes
Tell me you have enough of a grasp of basic ecology to realise what bollocks this is...
Tell me you have enough of a grasp of basic ecology to realise what bollocks this is…
The content of that sentence you quoted suggests a lack of ability to coherently form and connect ideas, never mind ecology.
Fun fact - I’d heard that you’re not legally required to report hitting a cat with your car, and a quick google indicates that’s true. I guess if the OP wants a legal way of dealing with his cat problem, then chasing them round the garden in his car is the answer…
Everyone’s shit stinks, it’s only a problem if you leave it sitting there
Well obviously, I didn't say it didn't.
I believe it's the whole reason for the ops post.
Slow worms can actually move quite quickly…..
Well even I have managed to catch one** so not a serious problem for a cat. Natrix natrix on the other hand is a different kettle of fish - I have never managed to catch one.
And judging by their terror of cucumbers I wouldn't expect a cat to catch one.
** They can be slow in the mornings when first sunning themselves.
How the blinking flip is a cat owner meant to pick up after their cat?
Step one. Understand they should* take some responsibility for their animal before getting a cat.
Step two. Create an appropriate space in their garden for an outdoor can run/catio/whatever
Step three. Pick up the poo from either the litter tray or the outdoor run.
People who get a cat and let it roam are making a concious choice to do so, knowing full well it will probably crap in other peoples gardens.
Without reading all the cat expertise on the thread (first page was laughable enough), I've got some of this under my front room window. Couldn't open the window in the summer for the stink, so put some of this down, now they shit over the other side, on the grass. I'm pretty sure they couldn't bury it (jeez there are some weird people on here!) without a spade. It smells bad if I sit on the doorstep in summer, but I just throw it over the nearest cat owner's fence.
Anyway, this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MUSEDAY-Repellent-Deterrent-Anti-Cat-Prickle/dp/B094JF4J3C/
@seriousrikk I hope you are personally cleaning up all the crap your vehicle generates when you drive it around, you wouldn’t make the conscious decision to pollute but then irresponsibly let others breathe in the fumes would you 🤔
It’s as if the internet is shiny and new, and no one’s coined the term ‘whataboutery’ yet…
This thread need never have got so far if someone had just given the obvious answer on page 1:
Just go round to your neighbour and hammer frozen mice into his lawn.
That’s not true. Budgerigar and hamster shit doesn’t stink.
Who has ever had to put a cage outside because the budgerigar, or hamster, has just had a shit?
I had dwarf hamsters for a while. "Stink" might be hyperbolic, but they certainly smelled if the cages were overdue mucking out.
I don't know the first thing about birds so I'll take your word about budgies. Don't they excrete guano rather than faeces?
@cougar most likely the urine? We used to end up with the OH nieces hamsters when they went on holiday and it was the pee.
We don't look after them anymore due to having a Greyhound. But that's also why I don't have a cat shit problem in the garden.
To the OP she is available for hire.
I had dwarf hamsters for a while. “Stink” might be hyperbolic, but they certainly smelled if the cages were overdue mucking out.
Yeah but was there ever a case of "quick, open the windows, the hamster has just had a shit again"?
Which can certainly be the case when sharing your home with a cat.
Since once of our friends’ dogs was killed eating poison in a public park in Glasgow’s south side,
I think I came across one of these incidents riding home from the supermarket. Someone had left several bourbon creams scattered on the pavement and this was in the heart of Newlaands, so i would think that unusual enough. I kicked them into the gutter, crushed them under foot and spread it about so it was pretty much inedible(ok, maybe lickable)
I maybe should have reported it but i think what i did was enough.
most likely the urine? We used to end up with the OH nieces hamsters when they went on holiday and it was the pee.
🤷♂️ Could be. I'll be honest, I didn't perform a forensic analysis of the cage contents beyond noticing that occasionally ponged a bit.
Yeah but was there ever a case of “quick, open the windows, the hamster has just had a shit again”?
Our dwarf hamsters' poos were smaller than a grain of rice, it'd have to be exceptionally nasty for that to be the case. What comes out of our cats is often larger than the hamsters themselves were.
Are you seriously pulling me up on a comment that "everyone's shit stinks" because you believe you've found an exception? Slow Argument Day today, is it? Jeez.
Are you seriously pulling me up on a comment that “everyone’s shit stinks” because you believe you’ve found an exception?
No, it's because I believe that not everyone's shit "stinks". Cows shit, which is a lot bigger than a grain of rice, doesn't "stink". Cat's shit definitely stinks though.
And mine smells of sunshine. But that's another story.
Cowshit doesn’t stink?!?! Well, that’s today’s big news and views from London sorted.
It might smell but no it doesn't "stink".
Have you actually ever smelt cat shit? Do you know what a cat is?
Cougar tried to suggest that cat shit doesn't stink.
Edit:
views from London sorted.
I live less than half an hour's bike ride from fields with cows. They are not creatures solely from the wilds of the northern hinterlands.
Do you know what a cat is?
I’ve worked with cattle, both dairy and meat, and grew up next to a field that regularly had cows in it. And, yes, we had cats and dogs ourselves (and goats, chickens … at one point geese and a lamb). It all depends on the water content… stinky wet cowshit is real. Dried out it’s fine.
I'm a gardener, cats don't bury their shit, they merely disguise it, I hate cats with a passion.
they merely disguise it
Disguise shit to look like what?
Cougar tried to suggest that cat shit doesn’t stink.
Now you're just making things up.
Disguise shit to look like what?
Kuala Lumpur!!
Disguise shit to look like what?
Hamsters. That way it doesn't smell. Apparently.
Cougar tried to suggest that cat shit doesn’t stink.
Now you’re just making things up.
This is what you said
Litter trays only stink if they’re using cheap litter and / or not cleaned out regularly.
As you attempted to argue with people that cat litter trays don't stink.
A cat litter trays stinks the moment a cat has a shit in it. The fact that it might not stink half an hour later, for whatever reason, is neither here nor there.
Edit: I speak as someone who has to clean two cat litter trays everyday btw.
Cougar tried to suggest that cat shit doesn’t stink.
I think what he actually said was:
Solids get removed from trays on sight. All the litterboxes get emptied, Miltoned and refilled around weekly. The only time they smell is if they’re overdue being cleaned.
Yeah I was aware. But that isn't the only time they smell. In fact the time they smell the most is straight after the cat has had a shit.
Whilst I don't doubt cougar's sterling work removing cat shit practically before it has come out of the cat's arse, it is somewhat disingenuous to claim that cat litter trays are not the source of unpleasant odours.
Dried out it’s fine
Which they use for fuel in fires in countries that have few trees or available timber.
And in that there might be a solution. Gather up the cat dung, dry it and burn it as fuel in the log burner, thus saving something off the fuel bills.
If the local cats came into my garden then I considered it was fair game for my Jack Russell to do with as he saw fit, sometimes he caught them, sometimes he didn't.
Jesus H TF Christ.
Cat poo smells. Clean cat litter trays are not sources of odour because they are clean. Cat litter trays with cat poo in them smell of cat poo because they have cat poo in them. If you remove the cat poo, the smell goes away after a few minutes because it's the cat poo which smells and you've just removed it. Human toilets work in a similar manner, you may be familiar with them. If you don't remove the poo then the smell will persist for longer, because the poo is still there, smelling. The reason I have a seemingly superhuman ability to "remove cat shit practically before it has come out of the cat’s arse" or more accurately shortly afterwards is because, as we may have already mentioned, cat poo smells and I therefore know that a poo has been pooed and I can go and remove it because I'm not a lazy bastard who's going to leave it there piling up for three days. Because it smells.
Is this sufficiently ****ing unambiguous for you, or are you going to look for a loophole to pick at and then carry on being deliberately obtuse in order to discuss the relative aromatic pungency of cat wee versus that of frogs for the next three pages?
Good grief.
There are a lot of correct people on this thread who really should know better than to engage with the spectacularly incorrect people on this thread.
Feel free to argue pointlessly amongst yourselves as you determine into which group you fall.
SMH
I've been weed on by frogs. I think they do it as a defence mechanism.
It doesn't smell.
Cats, on the other hand, stink.
Feel free to discuss at length, other opinions/experiences welcome 😁
Jesus H TF Christ.
Cat poo smells. Clean cat litter trays are not sources of odour because they are clean.
Yeah clean cat litter trays don't smell. No one is disagreeing with you. You decided to challenge someone who pointed out that cat litter trays smell, they obviously weren't talking clean cat litter trays.
I didn't read the rest of your rather long winded post but I'm lovin how you won't let go of the issue whilst apparently expressing outrage that anyone should disagree with you.
It is obviously very important to you so I am happy to concede that there is no necessary connection between cat litter trays and unpleasant odours.
Jesus H TF Christ indeed.
Feel free to discuss at length, other opinions/experiences welcome 😁
Thanks....... it's not frogs, I believe, that wee as a defence mechanism but toads, usually accompanied by inflating their bodies. It has happened many times to me and no it doesn't smell.
Frogs on the other hand, IME, can scream very loudly when caught by a cat.
Cats for very good reasons won't touch toads.
Toads excrete a bufotoxin from their parotoid glands that can in extreme cases cause seizures, or more likely foaming at the mouth and much head shaking if your dog tries to catch one.