[Closed] Female "Sexual Predator" Teacher.

Troll, ignorant or didn't read the full article?

The younger victim said: "As a kid I thought it was great what was happening, but now I see it for what it was - wrong."
The other said he had since realised he had been a "victim of sexual exploitation".
"I feel a sense of shame that I allowed myself to be in that position," he said.

That girl who went off to France with the teacher did so willingly. Should he have been let off?

Apalling breach of trust.

Am I alone in thinking this shouldn't even have gone to court?

She was a teacher in a position of trust, which she abused.

How would you feel if she'd taught your son, or daughter? Or if the teacher in question was male and had taken advantage of consenting male pupils?

OP - would you say the same if it was a male teacher having sex with under age girls?

Edit: beaten to it.

Put this in the opposite perspective - male teacher and young female, not so great now then, huh.

The victim, "thought it was great, AT THE TIME - realising now it was wrong".

She's a predator, end of thread.

If you are going to quote, at least quote all of it:

The younger victim said: "As a kid I thought it was great what was happening, but now I see it for what it was - wrong."
The other said he had since realised he had been a "victim of sexual exploitation".
"I feel a sense of shame that I allowed myself to be in that position," he said.

She was a teacher who had sex with young pupils, not 17/18 year olds who were already sexually active which still would have been wrong. What else should they have done? Let her get away with it?

Dunno if you're alone in thinking it, but it certainly wasn't something that crossed my mind when I read about it.

Not sure which aspect of adults abusing their position of trust and authority to sexually exploit children you think isn't worthy of prosecution though?

OP - if you want to understand the subject better I'd recommend listening to some of the File On 4 reports on the subject.

This one may even cover her, IIRC...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04grs67

Apalling breach of trust.

Appalling....

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She's a proper minger.

.....Now, my old French teacher.....ohhhh what I would have given 😉

Joking aside, completely wrong, If it had been the other way around with Female students we'd be up in arms. Wrong plain and simple.

wrong and breach of trust, again ^^^ my old german teacher....

OP This is very worrying! It might lead one to infer that if you were in such a position with a 'consenting' minor, you would think it was OK.

P - would you say the same if it was a male teacher having sex with under age girls?

If the circumstances were similar (ie Victim had a great time kept going back for more, didn't report it.) then yes.

I fully accept the breach of trust issue and clearly this woman shouldn't have been teaching.

But nine years inside and a trial seems a bit steep to me.

Just sack her and forget about it.

Adults sexually abusing children getting the jail? I'm ok with that.

If the circumstances were similar (ie Victim had a great time kept going back for more, didn't report it.) then yes.

I still dream of my old English teacher <3

Funny, isn't it.

A male teacher grooms teenage girls and pretty much the universal reaction is to be horrified. Yet a female teacher grooms teenage boys and there's an element at least initially of "go on lad, got to shag the teacher." We're an odd society.

But, yeah. It's certainly an abuse of power. Teachers shouldn't really be dating their students even if those students are of University age; they're still vulnerable to being blinded by the elevated status. Reverse the genders and it's basically the same M.O. as Savile, preying on vulnerable young people using the glamour of status.

Two people falling in love I can understand, that does happen in sometimes unfortunate circumstances. But that's not what happened here, she's just shagging her way through her high school students.

Would not bang, jail term seems right.

Oh, and for a STW Bingo Brucie Bonus, did we spot what subject she taught?

"But nine years inside and a trial seems a bit steep to me."

The trial was essential to establish we could be sure she was guilty she had denied the allegations.
Grooming
Full penetrative sex with a child
taking of virginity
campaign of many offences over years
two victims
abuse of significant personal and public trust
no remorse
9 years seems about right.
"Oh, and for a STW Bingo Brucie Bonus, did we spot what subject she taught?" I did lets not go there.

"Oh, and for a STW Bingo Brucie Bonus, did we spot what subject she taught?

RE!!! 😀

lets not go there

Spoilsport, these religious types are the worst.........

I thought as long as they were boys and approx 14 it wasn't rape if you were a god lover?

Funny, isn't it.

A male teacher grooms teenage girls and pretty much the universal reaction is to be horrified. Yet a female teacher grooms teenage boys and there's an element at least initially of "go on lad, got to shag the teacher." We're an odd society.

It is, but I think it might be due to the historical view that sex was something to be enjoyed by men and endured by women, as in that guide some posted here in a different thread.

On a point of order...
Teaching RE is/should be about teaching/understanding religion in the same way as history and geography. Not the same is indoctrination. Though back then thats what it was.

outofbreath - Member

Am I alone in thinking this shouldn't even have gone to court?

nope im sure there are loads of paedophiles who wholeheartedly agree with you

Teaching RE is/should be about teaching/understanding religion in the same way as history and geography.

It should be, yes.

Anyway, I wasn't going anywhere with that, it just amused me in the context of STW. I don't want to derail the thread with yet another religion debate, it's irrelevant to the story.

I worked under her.

I have wanted to post about this for a long time, but didn't feel it was appropriate. I had an inside line to it all for a considerable time before any annoucnments were made on why she was suspended.

The news articles never mention the two school's are in special measures now. I have so many bad stories about the place and it's practices.

There are people who are delighted she is banged up because she was a total twunt to everybody. The council is happy too, as they can sweep a rather large defecit for the schools under the carpet now and pretend it didn't happen.

Suspended for 2 1/2 years on 100k+

100k+ you'd think she could have smartened her self up a bit...........

"She had been a national leader in education, lauded for improving pupils' exam performance."

Her teaching methods must have worked then!
To quote EVH, "I think of all the education that I missed, but then my homework was never quite like this..."

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It wasn't the teaching methods that got the grades up in the school.

It wasn't the teaching methods that got the grades up in the school.

Oh, now this looks interesting, tell us more...

If the was a daughter of mine I'd be furious if it were my son, beers and a bbq. Yes that is double standards but we are not equal and not the same. I'd have given my left nut to have banged a hot teacher in school and I'm pretty damn sure I would still feel good about it today.

I'd have given my left nut to have banged a hot teacher

I'd have given my left nut to have banged a hot teacher in school and I'm pretty damn sure I would still feel good about it today.

What about if you were seduced by a not so hot teacher?

Are you really saying that if your 13/14 year old son had told you that he was having sex with one of his teachers that you would have celebrated this?
Whether you personally would have like to have had sex with one of your teachers, as a parent you can surely see this is totally wrong and is abuse.

OP your moral compass needs a service or recalibrating as it is currently not indicating magnetic North correctly.

Yes that is double standards but we are not equal and not the same.

Can you expand a little on this?

When we where kids there where always teachers who had a reputation for being to freindly with the male and female kids, if caught it was usually covered up, teachers or kids moved, now big compo money can be made by resurecting past encounters.

But it wasnt then and isnt now acceptable to use a power of trust over kids, you want a relationship try a dating site.

Can you expand a little on this?

Oh please spare us.

Put it this way, Lakey loved to abuse her power, whether it was with young boys, or making her staff have breakdowns that was her thing. She was abusive and manipulative with adults and kids.

Put it this way, Lakey loved to abuse her power,

And that's the thing, surely even the [i]"I'd congratulate my 13 year old for being raped by a teacher"[/i] crowd can see that someone who is prepared to abuse power and trust in that manner is likely to be fairly messed up in other ways too and is wholly unsuitable to be in a position of authority.

Just as a "what if", how would she have dealt with a male member of staff caught doing the same with female pupils? Would she have called the police or swapped grooming tips?

The teacher described herself as a Christian adding: "I'm a mum, I have a daughter, I have a husband of 21 years, I live with my family, my dog, my two cats, my allotment, my two hens.

I think she'll cope with prison. She seems to like being banged up.

^^ I wish it was appropriate to unleash the torrent of stuff that I know about her, the schools, and what happened there.

It would be worth while to be watching the papers closely to see how the council react. They have a few secrets that they hope can go away now.

wrecker - Member
The teacher described herself as a Christian adding: "I'm a mum, I have a daughter, I have a husband of 21 years, I live with my family, my dog, my two cats, my allotment, my two hens.

A christian RE teacher

Jeeeze... Was it a sheer act of madness then? Certainly looks like she had the moral backbone of teaching and religion and most certainly understanding of both Her thoughts and the Victims too.

Holy Crap.. sorry but she deserves more of a sentence IMO.

Can't help but wonder whether she went to an expensive fee-paying school too? If so, I'd have expected more from her.

There is a massive trust issue here. The teachers are in a position of authority over young people who are hormonally all over the place and as such should be protected and not exploited.

When i was at sixth form college one of my friends was having sex with his old high school teacher who was married and also male.
Another guy in our year was having sex with one of the female teachers.
At the time one was seen as a bit of a weirdo and the other as a real player. With hindsight I don't think either were particularly advisable despite both being previously sexually active. Both, i know, continued for some considerable time.

Just as a "what if", how would she have dealt with a male member of staff caught doing the same with female pupils? Would she have called the police or swapped grooming tips?

Not really relevant, unless somebody is arguing that she should have remained in post which I don't think anyone is.

In fact I think most posters (including me) would say that if the evidence met the standard for a successful criminal conviction it was certainly good enough for summary dissmissal and she should not have been kept on the pay roll for well over two years.

Got everything she deserved,huge difference between a 17/18yo boy nad a 12/13/14yo in terms of development.

In fact I think most posters (including me) would say that if the evidence met the standard for a successful criminal conviction it was certainly good enough for summary dissmissal and she should not have been kept on the pay roll for well over two years.

Really? A) What exactly are those standards that allows you to decide before a trial if somebody is guilty or not? B) Do you have any idea how many allegations of this sort are made and found to be unfounded?

Well, you seemed to think it wasn't particularly serious

Surely the resources involved in prosecuting and imprisoning her could have been spent protecting someone from something a bit more serious.

Victim: "I thought it was great". Says it all.

Jeeeze... Was it a sheer act of madness then?

trying to get away with it

About sums Lakey up.

abuse is abuse and a misuse of power, regardless of the gender of the perpetrator, and about the taking away of power from the victim.despite the notion that teenage boys will have have enjoyed banging the teacher . I have worked with male victims and it messes them up badly despite stereotypes to the contrary

Shame that toerag Chris Woodhead got away with it. He even had the effrontery to take the 17 year away with his wife as well. He later described such inappropriate relationships as 'an educative experience'. Then the University of Buckingham gave him a job to tell us all about standards in education. You couldn't make it up. These narcissistic people abuse both on a personal and a professional level.