Fed up with 6 music?

I'm still a 6music die-hard, but agree the standard has been dropping over the last couple of years.
2 weeks of Gemma Cairney was not the news I was hoping for this morning.

Totally fed up with some of the new hip, hop used to like hip hop but the current stuff seems like it was written in a school playground, and no there isn't anything to read into this. I just can't stand modern hip hop.

JeZ

2 weeks of Gemma Cairney was not the news I was hoping for this morning.

Oh really? I like Lauren Laverne, but I think Gemma Cairney is an excellent stand-in. Love her positive attitude and general enthusiasm for life. There's plenty of full time DJ's on 6 that should be put out to pasture with her given their job.

"all the day long all the day long on the chaise longue..."

If they play that ****ing song one more time I might kill...!

“all the day long all the day long on the chaise longue…”

If they play that **** song one more time I might kill…!

Perfect example of a song which I really liked at first but has already been ruined by repetition.

Gemma Cairney

Jebus wept, no. LaLa's ace, MAH is brill despite the drivel, Ravers is rad and Huw Stephens is pretty listenable too but Gemma Cairney can FRO.

Perfect example of a song which I really liked at first but has already been ruined by repetition

Excuse me, what?

I've also pretty much dropped listening to 6music recently - too much repetition of songs and the news is on far too frequently - should be maximum twice a day

I now listen to https://www.fip.fr/

You can choose a genre of music you prefer - no song is repeated more than once every 48 hours - minimal chat (and what there is is all in French) - no news (I listen while working and am yet to hear any)

Gemma Cairney, is she the one who can't pronounce 'better' properly? beh-err

, and no there isn’t anything to read into this. I just can’t stand modern hip hop

There is: you haven’t heard much modern hip-hop 😆

Still loyal to 6 Music during the day, less so after 5pm. Was surprise this morning when Lauren wasn't on but Gemma Cairney is a good substitute!

After 5pm though, not good.

and the news is on far too frequently – should be maximum twice a day

It’s a BBC station, you’ve only just realised that news is on every hour? And for what, three minutes?
I don’t get much chance to listen to 6 except during my commute in the morning and evening, but I can pretty much guarantee that I’ll be asking Siri to Shazam something that I haven’t heard before. Last week I was feeling a bit under the weather and left work mid-morning while Hobnob was on, and she played a black metal band, Wolves In The Throneroom, who I hadn’t heard of before, who I really can’t imagine any other radio station playing.

I now listen to https://www.fip.fr/
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Fip is excellent. I remember years ago when my gf lived in Brighton you could get it on the radio. Used to love cooking dinner with that on, just playing cool tracks and as you say, minimal chat, just the occasional news report in french on the main channel but I don't think they do on the other ones. Now listen to it on the app and can highly recommend

 

I gave 6 a go last week and soon gave up. I thought it was about music but instead they had what felt like never ending promotional interviews with presenters trying to be all matey with who ever the guests were

Kexp is ok

I’m a regular 6 music listener but really struggling with it at the moment. The playlist means it’s only a few hours before I’m repeat listening to tracks. It just sounds a bit drab sometimes.

Keaveney/Iggy/Huey/Charles/Caris are favourites, and Lard some evenings too. But the core playlist is bad, I’d rather hear them do their thing more.

+1 for FIP. 🙂

I've given up with R6 in the day during the week. Though Marc Riley and Gid Coe are still the best things on the radio, at 7 and 9pm.
Radmac and Tom Robinson are highlights of the weekend.

I like the playlist, there's the odd stinker but it's turned over pretty quickly. Thankfully self esteem womans single has been rotated out, and hopefully chaise long is on its way out. In fact some of the playlist has been excellent, Emma Jean Thackeray springs to mind

Not a big fan of Gemma cairney but she did play an Onyx song this morning, so whatevs

I don't know what id do without 6 music to be honest. The keaveny replacement is a big deal for me as can't stand lamaq so the whole afternoon could be a write off

Just listening to gid Coe right now and it's delightful as always,

NTS my bike riding brothers and sisters, NTS

Www.Nts.live

I still have a soft spot for 6music, been listening for years. Guess it was probably Adam and Joe that brought me in originally. But something's changed and I just can't be arsed listening to it anymore.

Still like a lot of the presenters, I can tolerate terrible music knowing that something good could be round the corner and I'm just happy it's not the same two day play list like on bloody absolute radio.

But I've gone to radio 4. And Nihal on 5live.

I loved that Self Esteem single!

Liked Chaise Longe first couple of times too....getting fairly irritating now though.

I listen to Gilles Peterson's show pretty much every week at least once. He rarely repeats tracks and covers a really wide range of genres. Freaking legend.

Not sure who I'd like to replace Shaun, but please not Gemma Cairney or Amy Lame.

Tom Radcliffe would be ok in my book. Eternal stand-in that he is.
Took me a while to warm to his monotone delivery but I like him now.

It is incredibly repetitive though sometimes. I guess many folks like that.

What about Paddy McGuiness to replace Shaun... 💣🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🤣

Can't stand keaveny, Lamaq or Marc Riley (the others are great) so a huge chunk of the afternoon, in the week, is unlistenable for me.

If I'm working I'll sometimes just stick Absolute Radio on even though there's a ton of adverts.

Will deffo give that FIP a try now though.

Tom Radcliffe would be ok in my book

Ravenscroft obvs. Bit of a dj mash up there.

i always loved 6 Music, there wasn't a station around that played the music i liked without constant adverts.

i think they have forgotten their target audience is mostly middle-aged men, even if that is not want they wanted. So i used to want a bit more old school hip-hop and some old dance music in amongst the indie tracks. But they seem to have just brought a lot of modern dance music DJ's, when there is already Radio 1, Radio 1 Dance, Kiss etc for that if you want it.

Best way to listen to it i find now is to listen to the particular shows i still like downloaded via BBC Sounds, so i can pick and choose.

in the car, i find myself playing Absolute 90's most of the time.

Thanks for suggesting. I'm listening to NME 1 on my network streamer and I'm enjoy the lack of DJ and pretty good playlist.

Paddy McGuinness would probably replace himself. Ubiquitous pr1ck.

I don’t think it’s losing older listeners by trying to appeal more to a younger audience - I’m 31 and I find a lot of it quite stuffy, but I still don’t hear much new/upcoming music on the regular daytime playlisted shows (apart from hearing the same songs all day long all day long…). I don’t know many younger listeners either.

Tom Ravenscroft/Giles Peterson is a good balance for me, proper DJs.

Cull time
Erm er Radcliffe and erm erm er Maconie, first up against the wall

I like Mark Riley, old school indie, great

Saturday's are just great though and better now Liz Kershaw has ****ed off, Rad Mac, Huey, Jamz, Gilles, Craig all excellent, nice

I have 6M on in the car sometimes when R4 doesn't have something on I find interesting. At home though, on the odd occasion I listen to the radio it is one of the Radio Paradise channels. Always good music, no ads and high quality streaming. Currently got their world music channel on...

I don’t know many younger listeners either.

Do the kids listen to 'the radio' these days?

I never did and them days was yonks ago.

@cheese@4p - how very dare you!

Saturday’s are just great though and better now Liz Kershaw has **** off

Hear hear!

Do the kids listen to ‘the radio’ these days?

My three teenagers don't - I doubt they even know how to turn a radio on. I'd imagine it's as archaic as a record player. (One of them recently asked me how a record player worked..)

Re. Gemma Cairney.

today she said how much she loved 80s music, and here's some 'Blanc Mange'.

Don't you mean blancmange?

yep, you really love that 80s music

Saturdays are good, Ravenscroft is good, and i though Lauren and Mary Anne were excellent during lockdown, but it's gone a bit stale

today she said how much she loved 80s music, and here’s some ‘Blanc Mange’.

Don’t you mean blancmange?

yep, you really love that 80s music

except that isn't actually what happened at all if you go back and listen to the show on Sounds...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000y0ck

1hr 14min for intro, 1hr 17min 30 for out-tro.

Me, I was delighted she played Blancmange, and loved the way she called herself out for the mispronunciation of a rarely played track that was released a year before she was born.

I'm enjoying her in place of Lauren which I didn't immediately think I would - it's hard sometimes for white middle aged men to engage with brilliant black women in their mid 30's, but it's great to have your eyes and ears opened a bit.

That said, I'm a bit confused by the OP - why not just put your itunes on shuffle or make a playlist?

I don't care what colour Gemma Cairney is, I'd just rather she didn't talk to me like I was a 5 year old.

Paul. White male. Aged 53 1/2.

That said, I’m a bit confused by the OP – why not just put your itunes on shuffle or make a playlist?

Because I always want to hear new stuff even if it's old.
I'd never heard this til yesterday. Imagine if I'd missed it.

I don’t care what colour Gemma Cairney is, I’d just rather she didn’t talk to me like I was a 5 year old.

Paul. White male. Aged 53 1/2.

That is satire? Isn’t it?

I can't help feeling a bit sorry for Keaveny, if it's not his choice to be going. I feel he's been culled for being middle aged (and maybe a little past it) and will likely be replaced by 'cool dj name generator' Jamz Supernova to bring in more of the yoof audience. He seems to get a lot of stick on here but at least he doesn't take himself seriously and as a fellow past-it middle aged bloke he usually manages to raise at least half a chuckle from time to time.

I’m enjoying her in place of Lauren which I didn’t immediately think I would – it’s hard sometimes for white middle aged men to engage with brilliant black women in their mid 30’s, but it’s great to have your eyes and ears opened a bit.

Had no idea what colour her skin is (funny this radio thing with the hearing but not the seeing isn't it) but it doesn't change my opinion of her broadcasting, funnily enough.

Well this shakes things up a bit.. Craig Charles taking over from Keaveny in afternoons, Iggy moving to the weekends, BUT 2 hours less RadMac...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2021/craig-charles-6-music-weekday-afternoon-show?fbclid=IwAR2CZ64JJi0urQiMuBdNvK98hbpP1gKiRLnwslTIr3XiR_o6rUpZpL2LlvY

Weekday afternoons is a bit of a weird time for Craig Charles IMO, but maybe I struggle associating him with anything other than his party sets. I enjoyed it when he sat in for Keaveny (? - or was it the morning show) a while back. Thankfully the F&S show is staying, had me worried for a second.

Iggy on Sunday afternoon is weird too, definitely better on Friday evening.

Weekday RadMac is a big miss for me. Less weekend RadMac is not good.

Hang on, better check with @brant whether Craig Charles is black enough given he's not even female...

Weekday afternoons is a bit of a weird time for Craig Charles IMO, but maybe I struggle associating him with anything other than his party sets. I enjoyed it when he sat in for Keaveny (? – or was it the morning show) a while back

He sat in for Lamacq during first lockdown. It worked well and he genuinely seemed to be enjoying himself the whole time, unlike Keveney whose schtick seems to be that he'd rather be anywhere else (or perhaps he'd just rather be anywhere else). Most DJs have a mainstream radio best before date. It's not unusual. The ones that stay sounding fresh for decades are a rarity.

Iggy's show will work equally well on a Sunday afternoon (its a pre record anyway and it's on Sounds so nothing to stop you listening a week later on Friday night if that's what floats your boat)

Don't understand what's going on with RadMac, but perhaps the love for them here isn't reflected in audience figures. I can understand them not wanting an early start on weekends but I still rate them as probably the best, and most knowledgable, broadcasters on the station = a shame they couldn't have kept going until 11 each day.

I love the CC F&S Show, and like CC generally, but six days a week?

I hope he manages to stay fresh and focused for his Saturday evening belters.

I wonder with RadMac if it by their request? Radcliffe had his cancer diagnosis and recovery and in current times, maybe they want to scale back.

If sex and colour don't matter a jot, why are the BBC prioritising both of those over ability and experience?

And it's not just the BBC.

... middle-aged middle class white guys being such a discriminated against and disempowered group? Bait, Shirley?

He sat in for Lamacq during first lockdown

That was what I was thinking of. Yeah, I thought he was really good. Wasn't sure how well his personality would translate from party set to drivetime DJ, but worked really well.

Craig Charles has stood in for Steve Wright on R2 a number of times, he was good. I'm not sure 5 days a week and twice on a Saturday will be a good thing though.

Just switched 6 on for the first time this week.

Second song to come on- Chez Longue

Back to Spotify..

Just switched 6 on for the first time this week.

Second song to come on- Chez Longue

Why do people still act surprised about hearing songs on the playlist a lot?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5JDPyPdDGs3yCLdtPhGgWM7/bbc-radio-6-music-playlist

https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio/entries/df07a250-5626-37a8-b374-57c15f0f6f31

I'm well aware of the playlist. Even before I was aware of how explicitly it's defined, I could tell which times of day were subject to it. Maybe I'm imagining it, but sometimes I think you can hear a note of frustration in some DJs' voices at having to play a playlist track, again.

Interesting to read that blog about it. I still can't see the point in it, and don't think it really offers any strong arguments in favour of it TBH. When I hear a new track I like on the radio, it more often than not gets ruined by being completely overplayed.

Why do people still act surprised about hearing songs on the playlist a lot?

I'm not surprised I'm just bored and disappointed by it. Even if you like a song on Monday morning you'll be bloody sick of it by Friday afternoon.

Well I hope at least we get a daily trunk of punk.

I’m finding the best way to listen at the moment is on Sounds on delay. I usually start listening to Chris Hawkins’ 5 am show at 7 and carry on through the morning. Gives me the option of fast forwarding anything I don’t want to hear.

Won’t work for everyone though I know.

I was very 6 Music until a few years ago, it's mostly Radcliffes fault for introducing me to WFMU (Great station in a very random way) once ween'd off R6 I found NTS, love this station, Weatherall's monthly residency was my highlight, I still listen back to his old shows on Mixcloud now, David Holmes, Fourtet, Erol Alkan do a decent job of filling the space left

Charlie Bones in the morning has pretty much got me through WFH lockdown, and has also introduced me to Limmy 'shes turned the we'ans against me!'

I lasted about 10 minutes of Cairney this morning. It has to be pretty bad for me to actively turn the radio off, but I find her annoying beyond belief. And she's on for FOUR HOURS this morning. Will investigate some of the other recommendations after my meeting this morning.

Maybe I’m imagining it, but sometimes I think you can hear a note of frustration in some DJs’ voices at having to play a playlist track, again.

Huey in particular. He dislikes the new Sault track so much he played the instrumental last weekend

Fully agree on getting tired of stuff too but every station with a playlist is the same. Though not a problem if you’re in the majority who listen less frequently/ for less time.

I listened to NTS earlier and the scouse presenter (MAKKKA?) said FFS live on air / line. I was horrified and now feel sullied.

Huey in particular. He dislikes the new Sault track so much he played the instrumental last weekend

Hmm. I thought Sault were great when I first came across them, but now I get the feeling they’re just playing the same track over and over and just changing the words.

I listened to NTS earlier and the scouse presenter (MAKKKA?) said FFS live on air / line. I was horrified and now feel sullied.

Yeah, they don't have too many rules, at times the one DJ will just play on in the hope the next person arrives in the next 15-20 minutes...the swearings not big or clever but it's mostly run by under 30s and half the time it's just like them speaking to their mates, there's no cut off. The contents usually ok though and I'm not playing it out to granny in the living room

Giles Peterson's Worldwide radio is my other go to when NTS gets a bit too grime.

If Keaveney's gone then I've gone.
Don't understand the hate.... he was the best thing on six.

I've found it unlistenable today, Gemma cairney is really annoying and the music in particular has been toss

I've nothing to turn it over to so just turned it down.

I'm too much of a miserable middle aged man to not be annoyed when the DJ whoops about people going to latitude festival or plays a PJ Harvey song and goes 'sing it PJ!!!!'

I might just have it put whale music or headspace on instead, might get some work done then

TBF the fact that latitude is happening is quite exciting, in normal times I would not be seen dead there, but at the moment I am rather jealous.

Yeah latitude going ahead is great and I hope it all goes well, it's more the DJ being so giddy about that and other stuff. But that's DJing I guess

That's why SK was such a breath of stale air

Just playing 'sugar kane' so all is forgiven

Switched the radio on in the kitchen this morning as per, even though it was just gone 7.30, so into the Cairney zone. Heard about 5 seconds of Chaise Longue, switched it off again. Too much for Monday morning. I'm now on WFMU again - had it on last week and the early morning show (8-11 our time) was great. All got a bit weird when the DJ came on at 11 and I felt like I was in Grand Theft Auto.

Laziness is the basic problem. I want to just switch the radio on and have something to listen to, not find a device, find a stream to listen to, and plug it into a speaker of some sort.

Chooooooon.

Have to say I've been listening to 6 Music a lot less of late, but just tuned in to SK's show this afternoon and heard Katy J Pearson's "Take back the radio" for the first time. Utterly brilliant. Going to give it a go again now, hoping there are a few more "what was that..?" moments

katy j pearson's great, i might buy her album. Its on 'Heavenly' records so even better. I loved her last single, 'miracle'

im enjoying the 'Goat' song just cos nice to hear some wah wah guitar fret****ery on the radio

he played an extended version of 'cold sweat' this afternoon which was particularly enjoyable.

im enjoying the ‘Goat’ song just cos nice to hear some wah wah guitar fret****ery on the radio

Yeah the Goat track was great, got the bass off the wall hanger to play along with that one (it's been a while)! Had also forgotten what a good song "Cosmic Girl" is by Jamiroquai (Stuart Zender, great bassplayer...)...Funky Frank's Friday Floorfillers. I might miss SK after all

There's been a new head of Radio 6 since last August (Samantha Moy), which is why we have been seeing all the changes. She started her career at Kiss FM, which goes a long way to explaining the thinking behind all the new DJs

Ravers standing in for Lamacq this week has been brilliant and I like Lamacq.

Quite happy to listen to 6m all day, except for SK, when I switch to R4 for the Archers and Gardener's World. Horses for courses.

Oh and I though Gemma Cairney was great too.