[Closed] Feckless parents. What to do about them?

I wonder if Oxfordshire is one of the county councils that will be taking part in the governements new 'problem families' scheme 🙂

TBF, my (at the time, new with first baby and therefore knackered) mum once left my sister in her pram outside a shop. She got all the way home before realising there was something missing...

it makes me so maddy

bit of a nothing story really. Mix up between 2 cars and security people.

Rather be left in a nice pub in Oxfordshire than a lot of other places

Wonder if he drove back over the limit?

There's a team of people that are responsible for the safety of the whole family, it's not so much the Cameroons that I'm worried about here, it's the efficiency and competency of our security services!

My kids have often left me unattended.

"****less Parents" - is an oxymoron surely?

Fabulous story

Security detail need a good kicking for that

I'm with scaled - probably the most protected family in the UK and their security people don't actually keep tabs on all the members of it when in a public place.

Does give Cameron an excuse not to remember stuff when at Levenson later in the week, though.

[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/821720.stm ]Balance Article[/url]

[i]it makes me so maddy [/i]

Ooh, you'll go to hell for that 🙂

Yeah, I would imagine that his Close Protection squad recieved a few stern words from the powers that be.

Its not a balance article at all - 16 yr old gets drunl adults looose child

Who knows who is to blame but I bet it does not happen again and I bet a high percentage of parents have "lost" a kid at some point...not me but it scares you enough when they are just out of sight.

No political mileage in this IMHO shit happens

Apparently :

[b][i]"Thankfully when they phoned the pub she was there safe and well. The prime minister went down straight away to get her."[/i][/b]

I think it's important to emphasis that he went back "straight away to get her". It is a relief to know that he's so caring.

mikewsmith - Member

Balance Article

How is that a balance article ? That is a completely unrelated story, dealing with a completely unrelated issue, and affecting completely unrelated people.

Junkyard - Member
Its not a balance article at all - 16 yr old gets drunl adults looose child

It is, they are both pointless stories that only makes the news due to the people involved.

Having wandered off as a kid and being left behind it's just something you can blackmail parents about later in life....

they are both pointless stories that only makes the news due to the people involved.

Don't most stories make the news due to the people involved then ?

😕

He was away for what, 15 minutes?

Don't like the guy but +1 on the complete non-story angle.

Plenty of families have similar tales to tell (as evidenced by the folk telling their own stories of misplacing children this morning).

You do have to wonder about the security detail though...

bit home alone for my liking.

oh my god... KEVIN!

+1 on the complete non-story angle.

The sub-editors of all the national papers appear to disagree with you and consider it a story worth reporting which their readers will be interested in. What I suspect you mean is that it's not a story which interests you.

Apparently my mum left me in my pram outside the local shop and only realised something was missing when she got home and my big sister asked where the baby was. I wouldn't mind so much if it wasn't for the fact that she remembered the dog, and the dog had been tied up to the pram!

Luckily I'm the strong sort who can easily get over that type of thing. 40 odd years ago, all in the past, easy mistake to make....sniff.....sniff,

B.

In the public interest
or
Interesting to the Public

Up there with footballers infidelity and celebrity falling out of night clubs.

So they hold on to a story for a couple of months and just happen to release it on the day the Gov't launch their 'troubled families' programme. Shameless media point scoring.

I can't stand the eejit but can understand why he might think the entourage employed to keep him & his family safe had things (and family members) under control.

Well interesting to the public I would have thought. You don't think newspapers should publish stories which their readers find interesting ?

I tend to read stuff which I find interesting, not because I feel I can do anything about it.

It really doesn't make him seem any more of a ****t than he already is.

[i]just happen to release it on the day the Gov't launch their 'troubled families' programme.[/i]

and the chancellor is at Leveson later too...

So they hold on to a story for a couple of months and just happen to release it on the day the Gov't launch their 'troubled families' programme. Shameless media point scoring.

By the Daily Telegraph, Daily Mail, and Daily Express ? Things sound more complicated than I thought.

I can't see Cameron lasting much longer.

The sub-editors of all the national papers appear to disagree with you and consider it a story worth reporting which their readers will be interested in. What I suspect you mean is that it's not a story which interests you.

There's the thing though - it's an "interesting" [u]headline[/u]. One that catches eyes and makes people buy newspapers, click links etc, but the actual body of the story is thoroughly undeserving of the attention it is receiving, especially as it appears to have happened some time ago and been released when certain news corporations may want to put a boot in.

While the Government has never engaged in 'shameless point scoring' or 'wanting to put the boot in'

*cough*petrolcrisis*cough*

So either every parent who misplaces a child (guessing this isn't a small number) id ****less and should be locked up [i]or[/i] this is just there to have a dig at the PM

Either way I'd rather hear how the government is dealing with whats going on than this.

Has Millibland released any policies yet?

The story [b]could prove embarrassing[/b] for the prime minister, coming on the [b]same day as the government relaunches[/b] its £450m troubled families programme.

The context says it all.

A great media non-story, so nothing new in that. Makes no difference to his ability/inability (your choice) to run the country but probably adds a few to the circulation figures, gives 24 hour news some padding and R5Live an easy topic to discuss.

And I thought there was a call for politicians to be more normal - God forbid, they ever err in their private lives!! 😉 And the balance (sic) Blair's son has a few after exams - wow, what a shocker!

[edit: meanwhile the real news across the channel and in Spain is....not in the public's interest?!!? 😉 ]

the we were "distraught" doesn't bode well for when the country ends up in a real crisis.

the plough is in buckinghamshire as is chequers

but for those of you who dont know it, both cars had to drive past the front door of the pub to get to the road... so little cameron was either in the loo or waved as they went past.

so little cameron was either in the loo or waved as they went past.

Top marks.

From The Guardian article: [i]"The couple's daughter Nancy [u]wandered off to the toilets[/u] while they were arranging lifts and they only realised she was not with them when they got home"[/i]

Either way I'd rather hear how the government is dealing with whats going on than this.
Has Millibland released any policies yet?

A little premature. He's not in the government yet. 😯

[i]waved as they went past.[/i]

He probably waved back, "ooh look at that sweet little girl!"

Love the drivel from the usual tories on here.

Laughable

0k, so an article also guesses she was in the loo.

its just as likely she was playing on the rope swing, a bit of light relief after having to sit through an overpriced sunday lunch with a load of boring grown-ups.

TandemJeremy - Member
Love the drivel from the usual [s]tories[/s]lefties on here.

Laughable

🙄

My point made Mike.

You attempts to show this is anything but a frothy story allowing us to laugh at Cameron are laughable

Does someone need a little perspective (the adult version) or get a life (the F'book version)?

😉

Its sensationalist & thats it.

Nothing more than political grist for the mill.

If you cant see that, then I pity you.

But the hand wringing lefties will use it as a rod to bash DC with.

When it comes to another politician that perhaps they are more favourable to I wonder if there attitude will be quite the same?

I DOUBT IT..

Try to separate an unfortunate incident from that which really needs worrying about.

Like, when is Summer ACTUALLY going to arrive??? (Surely thats more important - Im losing my razor sharp cycling tan lines for gawds sake!)

I think that clearly, anyone without children will possibly be shocked by this little mishap...I mean, how could you forget your child like that...I'd be miffed if I forgot my sunglasses in the pub...but another human??!!??

Whereas, anyone with children understands that the sheer hell of it all means that some days, you're all just lucky to make it through the day alive, let alone with the slight oversight of forgetting one's precious in the pub for an hour or so.

So - lefties have a little chuckle at CMD for being in an embarrassing situation. Tory apologists start foaming at the mouth and attempting to divert the conversation away from laughing at Cameron with a series of snide attacks on politicians not involved in this and anyone who dares laugh at their hero.

Lost your sense of humour guys? The rest of us haven't.

Methinks the gentlemen protest to much. Whats wrong with laughing at a politician who does something embarrassing?

So - lefties have a little chuckle at CMD for being in an embarrassing situation. Tory apologists start foaming at the mouth and attempting to divert the conversation away from laughing at Cameron with a series of snide attacks on politicians not involved in this and anyone who dares laugh at their hero.

Hes hardly my hero & I agree not knowing where your child is terribly horrific (& it does sadly cast doubts on the parents whether its deserved or not).

BUT if some of you cant see how you are using this as nothing else than a chance to bash DC..

Well, Ill walk away from this conversation now...

alternatively - everyone has a little giggle at CMD, err that's it?

Or is it a case of little things please.....?

Completely non-news, another "look, look, the tories are shit" thread.

I once drove away from a petrol station thinking my wife had paid, when she thought i had paid, weirdly it never made the Guardian.

[i]Whats wrong with laughing at a politician who does something embarrassing?[/i]

Odd that people would do anything else.

But the hand wringing lefties will use it as a rod to bash DC with.

They will? Give us an example then.

Hand-wringing lefties like the Daily Star and Telegraph you mean?

I despise DC and his government but I think this story has no relevance to anything either.

weirdly it never made the Guardian.

Because you're a nobody. 😉

Hell on toast - the Guardian in supercilious sh*tmongery shocker.

It will no doubt give the high-pitched, snarling lip curlers something to effervesce over.

Hell on toast - the Guardian in supercilious sh*tmongery shocker.

It will do doubt give the high-pitched, snarling lip curlers something to effervesce over.

That reads like a snarling, lip-curling, high pitched post to me; supercilious with the anger contained therein. You need to chill out and have a laugh about it like the rest of us lefties.

I shall heartily laugh at Cameron for this...clearly a broken family, in broken Britain. It's about time we did something about this.

Hell on toast - the Guardian in supercilious sh*tmongery shocker.

It's in all the papers. I think it originated in the Sun. 🙄

Don't let that stop your bizarre rantings though. 'High-pitched, snarling lip curlers'? 😕

It's weird how defensive people are getting about this story, which has been reported in a fairly neutral fashion, and which no-one is suggesting has any real importance. Strange.

They will? Give us an example then.

You only have to look at some of the responses on this thread..

Considering they have gone through something no parent should have to, i'm not surprised if they were distraught about this, and i can find more appropriate things to have a pop at Cameron about.

Reading the thread, it seems it's the right-wingers that are more angry (at the last count).

You only have to look at some of the responses on this thread..

Like what? Where has anyone suggested this is anything other than a silly mistake that has no real importance?

If Gordon Brown had done it there would have already been several mentions of him being 'one-eyed' and probably people ****ing on about how he sold off the gold reserves too cheaply yet again. 😛

😀

Ahhhh - I'm just bored before going off to work this alvo. Thought I'd wade in with something OTT - like everybody else on this forum.

Lashings of apologies.

Typical OTT Bizzie...off to beat up some innocents then?

(I'm staying in today if you're that angry) 😉

I can't see Cameron lasting much longer.

True but who else would you have?

The list of alternates is deeply depressing..

They all seem more interested in pathetic point scoring than dealing with the actual problems in the UK - which are too many & complex for me to start on here..(plus I dont really understand half of them 😕 )

Anyway Im off to drink some coffee & do some work so I can sneak out to watch a load of over-paid yobs kick a pigs bladder around a field vs a load of cheese-eating surrender monkeys (& lose badly no doubt).

Ciao.

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Like what? Where has anyone suggested this is anything other than a silly mistake that has no real importance?

He's also a bit rubbish at keeping an eye/lock on his bikes....

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Lols @ CFH

and knowing how to use a bicycle helmet properly
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I mean - everyone knows it should be on your elbow surely

mrlebowski
Read between the lines Grum - I can here some of them s****ing happily from here.

thats right - we are [i]laughing[/i] at him

Read between the lines Grum

Ah you mean invent things that you've imagined people have said, rather than respond to what they've actually said. Good plan. 😉

DD - 😀 staying in won't help you. It's not stopped me before 8)

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That's not yawning. That's a right-winger's child wailing after being forgotten in a pub.

^^^^Superb 😀

I mean - everyone knows it should be on your elbow surely

Love that pic TJ.

It's the overly contrived "relaxed casual look" as he pretends not to notice the photo op. 😀

Boris does it much better:
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That's not yawning. That's a right-winger's child wailing after being forgotten in a pub.

Yet more evidence (if any were needed) of broken Britain.

teamhurtmore - Member

And I thought there was a call for politicians to be more normal - God forbid, they ever err in their private lives!! And the balance (sic) Blair's son has a few after exams - wow, what a shocker!

You should have followed the story more closely teamhurtmore, instead of being so dismissive. If you had, then you would know that Blair's son lied to the police when asked for his name and address.

Which was a poor reflection of how he had been brought up by his father. And of particular interest since at that time his father was engaged in a political campaign which demanded greater parental responsibility.

And it came after the story concerning Cherie Blair's pregnancy, in which her husband bizarrely announced that it had come as a complete surprise to them and they weren't quite sure how it had happened. Which was very strange coming from a man who had lectured about the importance of greater responsibility from single/unmarried mothers.

Of course it should come as no surprise that Blair's son was brought up to believe it's ok to lie to the police if it gets you out of a sticky situation, after all, his father was very happy to lie to the British people, the UN, the whole world, in pursuit of his own agenda, well George Bush's agenda to be more precise. Still a worthwhile story though imo.

anyone with children understands that the sheer hell of it all means that some days, you're all just lucky to make it through the day alive, let alone with the slight oversight of forgetting one's precious in the pub for an hour or so.

I stand corrected E-L, but maintain that the world has much bigger issues than both stories. I will stand on my hobby horse when I am sure that my children have never told a porky pie to either get themselves out of a fix or to avoid embarassing their parents. In the meantime, I will happily dismiss these stories with a short term giggle, a little bit of sympathy but with long term indifference if you don't mind. 😉

[plus Nadal vs Djok is on now!]

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From today's Telegraph

[b][u]Leaving child in pub 'right for Britain' says Cameron[/u][/b]

DAVID Cameron has insisted that leaving his nine year-old daughter in a pub is the sort of tough decision that will rescue Britain from recession.
The abandoned girl was identified by her unusual blocky face
The prime minister left Nancy in a pub near Chequers after the move was agreed during a conference call with chancellor George Osborne and Nick Clegg, the self-­styled ‘deputy prime minister’.
Mr Cameron then used an iPhone app about fancy handbags to distract his wife Samantha while special branch bodyguards hustled everyone except Nancy into a big car and sped off.
A Downing Street source said: “When Samantha realised Nancy was missing she went straight into David’s study and told him to go and get her.
“She was standing over his desk shouting ‘Right. ****ing. Now’.
“But he just shook his head and said that while it was a painful decision he could only go and get her when market confidence had been restored.”
The source added: “Samantha kept saying ‘what if something happens to her?’ but David said that George Osborne had looked into it and assured him there was no reason to believe that anything bad would happen to a child left alone in a pub.”
A Treasury spokesman added: “Britain is a safe haven.”

Another classic Matt today!!

The daily mash is just getting worse every day.

Yet more evidence (if any were needed) of broken Britain.

I thought someone had promised to do something about this....

Oh.