Toadfaced **** v RNLI looks like only one winner.
Nice when there's an upside to these stories!
Maybe I'm naïve but surely if you want to stop this immigration it would make sense to go after the organised crime leaders arranging it, rather than leave people (and kids) drowning in the sea ffs.
I'd pay good money to watch Farage drown in the English Channel.
Have always thought it was a particularly worthy cause, and doubly so now. This has encouraged me to set up a regular donation too.
First Fishermen and now RNLI - Farrage really hates anything to do with boats, doesn't he...
Farage is just upset from the recent ship naming which left him with the new moniker Froggy MacFrogFace
You'd THINK it would be planes, no?
Has this not happened before of something similar? Names and charities may be different but I definitely remember it happening before.
This is a total win for Farage, it's exactly what he's paid to do, and get coverage for. I will guarantee that the folk who support Farage think the RNLI should just rescue UK citizens, as totally stupid as that sounds.
First Fishermen and now RNLI – Farrage really hates anything to do with boats, doesn’t he…
I would have thought planes irked him more.
I just with the general public would ignore Farage/Piers Morgan/Katie Hopkins etc.
They make a career from being such a knob that people rush to read the latest knobbish thing they have written today, this gives them a value to publishers and advertisers and a career. They should be treated like badly behaved toddlers and completely ignored, they would soon go away.
This is a total win for Farage, it’s exactly what he’s paid to do, and get coverage for. I will guarantee that the folk who support Farage think the RNLI should just rescue UK citizens, as totally stupid as that sounds.
No, I think they are probably fine with them rescuing French, Irish, Dutch citizens as well - just not the brown ones.
In fairness though part of Farage's message was actually reasonable - how come we can afford £250M for a shiny new royal yacht, but don't seem to have the border force resource to do this work and instead rely on members of the public volunteering for a charity to do the government's job? His fight should not be with the RNLI though - its like complaining that Red Cross / St John Ambulance volunteers encourage people to get ridiculously drunk and take drugs at Glastonbury by providing a safety net.
I don't he understands how it works.
The RNLI will only launch when they are requested to by the Coastguard. They don't just decide to go themselves.
So his beef should be with the Coastguard responding to people in distress.
For all that I detest Farage, Hopkins et al with every fibre of my being, I don't think he's stupid. I reserve that accolade for the mongrels who were shouting abuse at the RNLI volunteers recently, and the social media warriors stating that the RNLI were effectively people trafficking by bringing migrants to safety.
They'll all be the first against the wall when I come to power...
The possible upside to the whole Farage-farce is that the donations to the RNLI will rise, as it should. I do think it's odd that such a crucial service is entirely public-funded, with no money from the state.
And then there's the new £250,000,000 Royal yacht gin palace...
And then there’s the new £250,000,000 Royal yacht gin palace…
National flagship or something instead of royal yacht. The royals apparently have said thanks but no thanks we dont want dragging into this stupidity.
Will lob a few quid their way. What was the last thing the right wing nuts kicked off over against the RNLI. Remember donating a bit a year or so back and switching my smile amazon donations to go to them.
For all that I detest Farage, Hopkins et al with every fibre of my being, I don’t think he’s stupid. I reserve that accolade for the mongrels who were shouting abuse at the RNLI volunteers recently, and the social media warriors stating that the RNLI were effectively people trafficking by bringing migrants to safety.
He's not stupid - but he is their ring leader! He also referred to the RNLI as a free taxi service for illegal immigrants!
I do think it’s odd that such a crucial service is entirely public-funded, with no money from the state.
They want it that way - if they were struggling for cash there would be government grants - but they enjoy the freedom to do what they want and essentially define the rules etc.
No, I think they are probably fine with them rescuing French, Irish, Dutch citizens as well – just not the brown ones.
I think you'd be surprised TBH, depressed as well probably...
I forgot about his plane crash.
I don't often wish ill of people, but I wonder how different GB would be now if erm, things hadn't gone so well??!
This is probably the sort of shit that my Father-in-Law would endorse. He's an avid Daily Express reader & was moaning the other day that his 8% triple lock pension increase might not happen, while moaning in the next breath about nurses getting 3%......
It was only a couple of months ago he was bemoaning the fact that he still couldn't meet his fellow oldies for a catch-up & it was all because 'you youngsters' have weak immune systems. Completely missing the fact that the younger generation were effectively locked up for over a year to protect people like him & his Wife from popping their clogs.....
Sadly he is (sort of) having an effect with the closed minded. My brexit voting, DM reading FiL (who has/had a small life, limited intelligence and is in every way the sort of moron I'd avoid if he wasn't faaamliy) and I were having a conversation about boats as I've just bought an old dinghy. When I quipped that I better top up my RNLI donations before taking to the water he was straight out with a "I'll never be donating to them again after what they are doing with the immigrants".
Only 'sort of' having an effect because I'm pretty certain he has never in his life given money to the RNLI. These people are out there - they look at the same footage as me and when I see poor vulnerable and in peril fellow humans they see scum. It's very very sad.
edit - stumpy - are you my brother in law?
No, I think they are probably fine with them rescuing French, Irish, Dutch citizens as well – just not the brown ones.
Yup. Couldn't agree more.
Ironically Farage's attitude is very much in line with the EU's.
Racists come in many shades.
the foghorn of ignorance.
The fact that I must have missed hours of GCSE geography lessons (still passed) because my excellent geography teacher was a RNLI volunteer gets my money every time... The whole Farage fiasco is a bonus. Thanks @HoratioHufnagel for the link 👍
I don’t often wish ill of people, but I wonder how different GB would be now if erm, things hadn’t gone so well??!
Truly one of those "what if" moments in history.
What happened to the favourite gammon retort of "All lives Matter" ?
Hateful human being. Far too many of those at the moment.
The fact that I must have missed hours of GCSE geography lessons (still passed) because my excellent geography teacher was a RNLI volunteer gets my money every time... The whole Farage fiasco is a bonus. Thanks @HoratioHufnagel for the link 👍
Has this not happened before of something similar? Names and charities may be different but I definitely remember it happening before.
Similar thing recently was when the Daily Mail tried to drum up hate for the RNLI funding lifesaving & water safety in them there forin countries. Cant remember if Farage got involved as well (probably). Result was same as this time: an increase in donations to RNLI.
perhaps somebody should pay for a poster campaign "Breaking Point" over a picture of the the poor syrian lad lying face down on a Turkish beach.
Ironically Farage’s attitude is very much in line with the EU’s.
Not really true is it
Vote was only narrowly lost and you'd easily argue that that's a result of farages poisonous influence, BXP voted for against it
Would the vote have passed now the BXP no longer in EU Parliament? (especially as the 4 tory MEPs that abstained could have swung it too)
You could say that on that basis the EU would be less racist now we've left
And Patels plans go further
Farage really is the worst of us
I don’t often wish ill of people, but I wonder how different GB would be now if erm, things hadn’t gone so well??!
That did cross my mind. But there is a demand among the great British public for either him, or someone just like him. I'm sure some other frogfaced man-of-the-people-tells-it-to-you-straight arsehole would have crawled out to replace him.
Not really true is it
Yeah it is true. In many EU countries, such as France, Italy, and Hungary, Farage's racist views would be seen as fairly moderate when compared to other leading politicians.
If Nigel Farage was to talk about the link between immigration and terrorist networks that infiltrate migrational flows then he would quite rightly be denounced as a racist.
And yet that is exactly what the former EU chief negotiator Michele Barnier has said.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/france-suspend-immigration-ban-barnier-b1845533.html
The call for a suspension of non European immigration is racism totally indistinguishable from Donald Trump's, (or Nigel Farage's) racism.
I find all racism utterly repugnant and nauseating, but what I find particularly nauseating is when it is combined with breathtaking levels of hypocrisy.
Trump and Farage would have been denounced without a moment's hesitation for making those comments in that link, but a totally different attitude is taken when they are made by a politician who supports the EU.
Shameful.
I would have thought planes irked him more.
That was a sad day indeed, things could've turned out so different.
In many EU countries, such as France, Italy, and Hungary, Farage’s racist views would be seen as fairly moderate when compared to other leading politicians.
Look Earnie, we know there are far right rabble rousers all over Europe (and the world). Could you just let us have our own little go at Farage without one of your odd little whataboutery talking downs about the Evil EU on our doorstep? Thanks. An earnest defence of Farage from you is welcome if that’s really what you want to do… go ahead and be direct about it.
Maybe I’m naïve but surely if you want to stop this immigration it would make sense to go after the organised crime leaders arranging it, rather than leave people (and kids) drowning in the sea ffs.
Nah, you'd increase foreign aid and try and fix the fact that walking barefoot across two continents, risking drowning in the med and the Channel, being sold into slavery and a hundred other horrors sounds preferable to staying put.
To fix the problem you need to get rid of the demand.
“I’ll never be donating to them again after what they are doing with the immigrants”.
What you'll find is most of the people who come out with that have never donated to anything in their lives, they're just small minded selfish idiots.
By definition, those who do actually donate to charities are capable of thinking and caring about other people.
Not a big donater, but have just donated. They do great work, though always seem well funded. Previously only ever stuck a quid in the plastic lifeboat at Seahouses or Barmouth.
What was the last thing the right wing nuts kicked off over against the RNLI. Remember donating a bit a year or so back and switching my smile amazon donations to go to them.
The RNLI were funding some small scale drowning prevention projects overseas. All of the Daily Mail readers stopped their imaginary monthly donations in protest.
I nearly linked to the original DailyMail story. It’s out there if you want it.
That did cross my mind. But there is a demand among the great British public for either him, or someone just like him.
That's a good point... At least garage is currently in the 'useful idiot' category whilst having no real power or influence. It could be worse if someone in government was spouting similar stuff.
Ahh crap! I hope Pritti Patell isn't following this story.
To all those suddenly donating to the RNLI out of spite, please donate to your closest independent lifeboat service instead. There are more than you might think and they are in far more need of funds than the RNLI.
To all those suddenly donating to the RNLI out of spite,
?????
Yeah it is true.
but if youre saying that the EU is racist based on that vote
now that the UK has left (assuming everyone else voted the same) the motion would have passed
so by your own measure Brexit has made the EU less racist, because Farges view would no longer be in line with the majority of MEPs (however unpleasant the views of the far right in France/ Italy or the government in Hungary is)
but if youre saying that the EU is racist based on that vote
No of course I am not. I was pointing out the obvious irony of Nigel Farage's comment being very much in tune with the views of many politicians in EU member states.
And that is that dark skinned people attempting to make dangerous sea voyages in overcrowded dinghies as they desperately try to escape the horrors of wars, either started by or sponsored by European countries, are not welcomed in Europe.
Of course the stark contrast in the case of countries such as Italy and Hungary is that many people who share Farage's racist views are in government, whilst Farage despite his multiple attempts to convince British voters has always failed to win a seat in Westminster, never mind have a position in government.
In the case of Michel Barnier, whose indisputable racist comments could have come straight out of a Donald Trump speech, he was the EU chief brexit negotiator ffs.
Utterly shameful imo, as is any attempt by people who purport to be anti-racist to defend it.
are not welcomed in Europe
There are those sentiments everywhere. But we don’t do our bit in the UK, we leave it to… in a very rough order… Germany, Hungary, Sweden, France, Italy, Switzerland… we don’t pull our weight here, and still arses like Farage complain at the tiny number of people who do seek asylum here.
There are countries in the EU who do even less than us, and many politicians in EU countries that are just like Farage, some even worse. That is all true. But how is it relevant to this thread?!? No one here is supporting people like Farage… whatever country they ply their hateful trade in.
Regarding the comments above that the rescue of seafarers should not rely on charities, but should be supported by the state. The snag with this is that, whereas RNLI have no axe to grind, and a clear mission, a state-funded operation would be used by the government in any way it chose. For example, would Border Force's priority be saving lives or securing the borders? For a good example of how it might go, look at the US Coastguard, a military operation who may (and may not) decide to rescue you if they're in the mood (and then sink your damaged boat with gunfire rather than tow it in!). (Hence the saying "better a sister in a whorehouse than a brother in the USCG")
Farage is an irrelevant shitstain in the unfortunate pants of British history.
If he was drowning, the RNLI would save his life without qualm. I wouldn't. Mind you, most turds float anyway, so he'd probably be fine.
Cleaning up the resultant slick of fake tan and general brown ooze would take some time, though.
As a serving member of the RN for 25 years I couldn't imagine crossing the inky blackness of the Channel in a dinghy, even if I was an Olympic swimmer, let alone a parent carrying my child. Any individual or group who would abandon others in that situation is simply not a human being of any notable worth.
Regarding the comments above that the rescue of seafarers should not rely on charities,
Seafarers don't 'rely' on charities, as they do in many sectors charities supplement existing provision - the origin and underlying motivation of the RNLI and other lifeboat organisations is coastal fishing communities looking after their own. They are part of the network of organisation providing protection and rescue for seafarers. These organsations have a pretty limited scope - Each one exists to serve and support the local inshore boating community - the volunteers' own friends, families, neighbours and colleagues but they would of course come too the aid of anyone in the locality who needs their help - but their reach extends to anywhere you can get to in a small boat. If your container ship is sinking in Rockhall its not going to be a lifeboat crew that comes to your rescue.
We have the Coastguard, which now also operates what used to be the RAF's search and rescue service, the Royal Navy, The Fire Brigade has marine units. The Hazardous Area Response Teams fo the ambulance Service includes water rescue. Both the Military and Civilian Police services have marine units. But even though we have all those things...... people still volunteer to play their part and people happily support them and thats great.
Problem is those people think "well they chose to cross, it's their own fault if they get into trouble" so to them it's justifiable.
I agree though, anyone leaving anyone in a potentially deadly situation is a crappy human being.
Dont forget that its the people inspired by farages words that cause huge problems and difficulties, and while it is easy to label the turd a turd, a bit of a dick,someone to be laughed at and not taken seriously, he is an extremely dangerous influence, and as dangerous as individuals like Himmler or Goebbels.
Couple with this is obvious lack of feeling or empathy for people in that situation, the horrors they have fled from, and his self serving interests. He is on par with any of the other psychopathic nutters in history.
Like many here I've sailed and sailed out into shipping channels in the Irish sea and the Channel over to France, in bigger yachts, with nav systems and radar and such devices for alerting your presence to those commercial ships, and been very very close to huge container ships at night(which is pitch f**g black by the way 😯 ). I cannot fathom how terrifying it must be for anyone to set off on such a journey in a 8' inflatable boat with more than likely a dodgy engine with their family and children, who will be mostly mercifully unaware of the danger they are in..
You have to either be completely mad or very very desperate to even contemplate such an undertaking, and I'm more than sure the parents of families the RNLI here and other humanitarian groups around the world are saving from drowning.
Watched a prog on these crossings over to Greece, and the rescuers were coastguard but mainly commercial fishermen, many of whom were in tears recalling stories of drownings. Commercial fishermen a world over are hard basts to a T, for them to break down on camera really rams it home the trouble this country and others have caused in the world that these terrible events are taking place.
I would happily and bid a fond adieu to the likes of that prick Farage as i kick him off Beachy Head. He is worthless scum.
I do think it’s odd that such a crucial service is entirely public-funded, with no money from the state.
What, and then have to deal with interfering ministers and civil servants with their own agendas and clever ideas about how the service should actually operate?
No, it’s perfectly fine operating as it is. What you may not understand is that volunteering runs in families going back generations, mainly with direct connections to the sea, thus having a vested interest in the service operating to the benefit of everyone, irrespective of where they’re from. And that service is free.
To all those suddenly donating to the RNLI out of spite, please donate to your closest independent lifeboat service instead.
Read what I’ve just posted - the independents operate with the the RNLI, not against them; not every community can support an RNLI station, and not all of the independents operate with boats, because their location is often unsuitable for a boat, Burnham-on-Sea south of Bristol being a particular example, because of the huge tidal range the sea goes out a mile, and is out most of the day, so stupid emmets try to get to the sea and get stuck in thick mud, and sometimes tragically drown. Which is why they bought two hovercraft and cooperate with the RNLI. Everyone benefits, nobody loses out.
I live seventy miles from B-o-S, but I always donate when I’m down there, and I always donate to the RNLI as well, as any sensible person should.
I don’t care about the rights & wrongs of this - all I care about is that toad faced ****t had the temerity to have a dig at some of the bravest men & women on this planet.
This is why the RNLI shouldn’t have any government connection:
https://greekreporter.com/2021/07/29/greece-coast-guard-bills-rescued/
The same thing goes for mountain rescue teams as well, which I don’t think anyone has commented on.
Hateful human being. Far too many of those at the moment.
It is because they appeal to many people in the UK. They are saying/representing what they think. Just as the tories have over the last 50 years (they stand for selfishness, racism, bitterness)
It is the high number of hateful people in the UK that are the cause.
What, and then have to deal with interfering ministers and civil servants with their own agendas and clever ideas about how the service should actually operate?
No, it’s perfectly fine operating as it is.
Nor can it then be outsourced or privatised.
Let's look on the positives, I reckon that the RNLI had a decent surge in donations.
Mine won't have been the only one.
3000% apparently!
monthly donation just setup here
If you gift aid the donation 52% of the extra must be from Brexit supporters' tax - Result!
Bloody idiot. Read what I’ve just posted
What you posted is complete nonsense though. I live in a community which had to create an independent operation because the RNLI removed their service as part of a cost cutting exercise. The independent operation has no links to the RNLI although it is sometimes called in to action by the coastguard alongside RNLI boats where multiple boats are required. Hundreds of thousands of pounds were raised to purchase a boat to keep the vital service running and equally large amounts are required each year to keep operating. There are many other independent operations around Britain in exactly the same situation.
Please be careful to understand what you are talking about in the future before making personal attacks on people.
To all those suddenly donating to the RNLI out of spite, please donate to your closest independent lifeboat service instead. There are more than you might think and they are in far more need of funds than the RNLI.
Probably true, but alas that won't register as a protest/**** you against Farridge, so RNLI it is.
If you can persuade Farridge to pick a fight with any Independents then yes I'll gladly donate to them too.
Probably true, but alas that won’t register as a protest/**** you against Farridge, so RNLI it is.
If you can persuade Farridge to pick a fight with any Independents then yes I’ll gladly donate to them too.
£20 from me to RNLI too.
**** Nigel Farage.
#thenicepeoplearefightingback
There are many other independent operations around Britain in exactly the same situation.
5 RNLI stations on my stretch of coast. 0 independent stations.
RNLI it is.
Paid my £20 anti **** tax yesterday.
I'll just ignore him and keep donating. Having called the RNLI just before climbing onto the wheelhouse roof of a ship that was sinking was a day I'd never want to repeat. Good on you RNLI.
Is there a list of the independents somewhere if someone chose to donate to such?
5 RNLI stations on my stretch of coast. 0 independent stations.
I live near to the spot in the UK that is furthest from the coast.
But Nigel Farage is a ****.
If only history were to repeat itself.
Nigel Farage, descendant of Huguenot asylum seekers, brings out the best in the British.
"We’ve had a better response to almost everything that we’ve done in 2021. At the end of the year, we’re going to have more members, we’re going to have more cash donors and more people who give to us via direct debit”
Well done Farage!
I signed up for a direct debit this year due to that jumped-up turd in a stupid hat this year.
It’s nice to be reminded that the silent majority are often* nice and reasonable.
*but not always!
The RNLI raised £200,000 in a single day!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/29/rnli-donations-soar-in-response-to-farages-migrant-criticism?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
And there were other
Farage-inspired appeals raising significant sums.
Great to read. Most people, in the main, are decent minded individuals.👍
Indeed. And 40 years since the Penlee disaster. Unbelievably brave people…
dangeourbrain
Full MemberMaybe I’m naïve but surely if you want to stop this immigration it would make sense to go after the organised crime leaders arranging it, rather than leave people (and kids) drowning in the sea ffs.
Nah, you’d increase foreign aid and try and fix the fact that walking barefoot across two continents, risking drowning in the med and the Channel, being sold into slavery and a hundred other horrors sounds preferable to staying put.
To fix the problem you need to get rid of the demand.
I agree that having a genuinely effective and properly funded aid programme is important as well as stoping supplying arms around the world, working on the debt crisis and promoting fair trade rather than rigged markets.
But we could also allow asylum seekers to apply in France and then give them passage to the UK while they wait for their application to be processed… as well as drop immigration, housing and wage policies that increase the likelihood of illegal immigration.