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Family of 4, currently boys are 5 and 7. 3 trips a year, slowly increasing duration - plan to be a week at a time
Large inflatable tent, khyam airtek 8 & fridge bascially fills our sportages boot. 500l Roofbox on top takes most of the furniture / sleeping bags, thule bike rack on the tow bar takes 4 bikes and then everything else is piled on top of the kids / passenger.
Obviously not ideal, as the kids get bigger the space around them gets smaller and I'm not sure the tow bar hitch will take 4 adult weight bikes.
ideally we would also like to take the SUP's / inflatable kayaks in the future, but zero space. Most of the stuff we take isn't hugely heavy just very bulky
I'm thinking about a small camping trailer - however these are not cheap at nearing £3k
https://www.bigbearoutdoor.co.uk/product/anssems-gt-750-251-ht-trailer-with-spare-rack-4-x-thule-proride-cycle-carriers/
Or maybe even a tailer box trailer which could be used as storage at home, or even toyed with a micro camper which could double as a home office when not on camping duties!
Or I put the money towards getting a bigger car - it is only a 1.6l petrol - It seems okay at the moment with current load. Even the biggest SUV I would imagine would struggle to fit this amount of kit comfortably. I've even started looking at vans and the like, but they seen another league in pricing!
Others must be in a similar position ? How are you transporting all your kit for an active family trip?
Have been looking second hand but ok condition trailers seem rare, and often still asking decent money.
There is a small amount of kit that I'd say we could ditch (such as lights and the like) which my missus always wants to take, in the scheme of things its only a small holdall
what are your setups?
You need a van..
Tourneo Custom (Transit) here, back 3 seats out gives huge storage. We have 3 boys and active holidays much as you described. Used to like big estate cars but as we also have dogs the boot is no use to us. Had the van 6 years now, perfect for us if very expensive to run (but we don't do huge annual mileage with it at least).
We don't have the tent & living equipment storage issue though by towing a caravan, so one problem solved for us if not many others created.
I use a van but wow that trailer is expensive. You seem to have chosen the most expensive option there. If you're happy with a small trailer like that you can do grab something for much less than that.
Don't get a van. Shit fuel economy the rest of the year when you don't need the space.
I nearly bought a trailer years ago when we moved to Germany. There was a local place that would assemble them to your spec from a chassis and marine ply, would've only cost about £500 back then.
I think it was this https://www.sgmtowing.co.uk/trailers-and-accessories but there are no prices.
T5, but with 7 bikes and 2 kayaks and a SUP. I've given up on camping
T6. Sorry not the answer you want. We went through the same pain when ours were young, travelling all over UK and Europe. We managed a number of trips with a Peugeot 307SW which was one of the most spacious and practical cars ever, given its external proportions.
Only suggest packing as light as possible which I am sure you are expert at. We only took 2 kids bikes.
A big estate car. Much more interior space than an SUV
He's worried about £3k for a trailer so you recommend a T6 at how much?
You probably don't need four Thule carriers for bikes. Just have a trailer with deeper sides and put the bikes on top of your gear wheels off, and a cover for the top. You won't be able to leave it unattended, but nor would you with those carriers on top.
Be warned about box trailers though. I hired one once to collect a sofa, ok so it was really big and twin axle, but it jiggled the car around so much both empty and loaded that it made me feel sick and I was driving.
Buy a caravan...sorry, not being flippant, but when I weighed up the pros and cons of towing a trailer anyway, weather, amount of gear as the boys got older it just seemed to make sense. They loved it and even christened our first caravan The Good Ship Golden Hamster. No idea why but they did and loved the adventures. (Maybe because it had bunk beds my youngest got to sleep in the top bunk and called it the captain's bunk????????) Bikes go on the car roof. Caravan gear etc in the caravan, clothes in the car boot. Heating is good when the weather is not. Still had the tents for short weekends with one of the boys for a dad and son camping adventure.
A Skoda Octavia Estate and a Roof Box coped with all our family camping rubbish for many years. SUV type cars can be rubbish space-wise compared to a good estate.
And don't take bikes! They add a whole load more clobber that takes a lot of space. Use the holiday to do different things. 🙂
Buy a caravan
That's what we do. Bikes on roof, kayaks and crap in the boot, the caravan does everything else. Far better than tent camping IMO.
Berlingo/Combo etc. in XL lwb is a good compromise if you don't want a van. Pretty massive inside and a lot cheaper to run/buy than a van, swallows bikes/people/kit.
(of course, it is a van really, but far more practical for family life day to day)
We used to have a Ford SMax, 2 adults 2 kids, big old tent, proper fridge, all other camping gubbins beds/furtniture etc, inflatable SUP, 4 bikes and what seemed to be equipment for playing most poular sports!
Roof box and bike rack meant could still see out of the back windscreen, I did tend to removed to the extra 2 seats in the back. Boot was freakin huge!
I've got a van now though....
Loads of trailers on Facebook marketplace for under £500 round here, must be similar where you are. Absolutely no need to spend that much money.
I have a Toyota hilux with a roof rack/cage and still struggle to fit it all in. I've toyed with going in two cars but have to question wtf is wrong with me 👀 and just take less stuff.
I think a trailer is the answer - but not £3k for a 'camping' trailer.
You want a normal open trailer with 'cage' sides -
Look round as they often come with a fitted waterproof tarp cover.
All your bulky camping kit can go in here, with just the valuable/delicate stuff in the car.
When we were at this stage we had a huge XM estate. Possibly the favourite car I have ever had.
We had narrow roof box so I could bring a canoe along side but still ended up with a small trailer like a Brenderup 1205. I then made up some bars so I could put bike racks on it out of some old roof bars and U bolts.
So I vote get a trailer if you have space to store it securely.
Caddy Maxi with the back 2 seat outs gives a boot of plenty. Then a mahoosive roof box and bike rack on roof too. The stuff expands to fit the available space as you just take more or get worse at packing.
The thing about camping is you can manage with 15kg per person or 150kg per person of stuff. At some point you need to cut back to suit the available transport.
similar family, we get everything inside our zafira tourer (no roofbox, although we do have one), using a smaller tent for weekends away, making dubious use of the footwells. Something like a grand tourneo connect will hold 1,200l of gear, and is a little less unweildy than a transit/t6
No matter what size of vehicle - family hatchback or big van - you'll fill it. That's how it's worked with us at least. We use Transit Custom, dual-cab L2. Most stuff goes inside inc 4 bikes, 2 SUPs, a massive 6-person inflatable tent that weights nearly 50kgs (polycotton Vango). Plus a 690ltr roofbox for the lighter camping stuff (sleeping bags, sleeping mats, folding table/chain picnic table, etc). TBH we could squeeze the roofbox contents into the van too but having it lets us access stuff enroute more easily.
Van's a luxury for camping trips but we make use of it year-round - again, also luxury but it makes our lives and pursuits easier.
+1 to those saying adding a normal trailer with higher sides. FinL recently bought an Erde trailer with the side extensions for £250 locally to him via Gumtree/FB.
3 children + 2 dogs for 2 weeks in Cornwall. Peugeot 5008 with Roofbox and trailer.
Dogs have half the boot then a divider for the tent and a couple of bags in the other half. Everything else in in roof box or trailer. The trailer I got for £60 from a bloke who had used it as a market trader weekly but was retiring. It was half the height so I extended it upwards to double the capacity. It's 4x3ft length/width. Replaced the light bar on it with anew one for £20 off Amazon and good to go for maybe £120 all in. Took it to the local weighbridge and fully loaded it's 300kg which is less than I was expecting.
But, as has been said - whatever space you have you will fill and will want more. I'd love a larger trailer but the prices can start to get a bit silly very quicky.
Yeah, been through this.
Our configuration is:
Family of 4, 2 teenage boys
VW touran. Great practical everyday vehicle. Takes some of the kit in the boot. Still loads of room and no squashing items around the kids
Bikes on the roof of the touran
Second-smallest Erde trailer with a hard top and roof bars.
Camping kit and 2 paddle boards in the trailer
2 paddle boards lashed to the roof bars on the trailer.
Bought the trailer for about £300. It lives stood on end in the garden under a tarp. Doesn't take up too much space when unused.
Agree that a van is not the best answer, at least for us.
The extra cost and environmental impact involved in running a van year round isn't warranted for a few trips per year.
Touran on its own with no trailer is fine for everything apart from long camping trips with lots of gear.
Another benefit of trailer is that you can use it as a short of camping shed while you are away.
Need to mitigate theft risk, however.
Has anyone suggested two de-restricted e-cargo bikes yet? 😉
I think a trailer is the answer – but not £3k for a ‘camping’ trailer.
You want a normal open trailer with ‘cage’ sides –
Yeah that's what we looked at only the sides were marine ply. It had a bungee-on tarp cover too.
Another benefit of trailer is that you can use it as a short of camping shed while you are away.
One of the reasons I regretted not buying the trailer at the time was that it would have been endlessly useful for all sorts of other jobs over the years.
We have a Sportage and a Passat estate. The Passat is the holiday/activity car but is filled to the roof with 2 adults, an adult sized child, a golden retriever, 2 SUPs and camping kit. The kayak on the roof doubles as a roofbox. Could fit bikes on roof or towbar as well but no idea where I'd fit the extra kit. It's the bulk of the SUPs and watersports kit which is the problem.if I were you I'd probably go for the trailer option now which you should be able to sell for what you pay later and change the Sportage to a large estate or people carrier next time you change the car.
Storage for a small trailer is doable, a caravan would have to be stored offsite somewhere, adding to the cost, unless I got a small one we don't mind looking at every day.
I have been looking but not seen many 'cheap' trailers though, most of those cheap erde ones are still £300+ and then need to add a hardtop and 4 bike carriers. Still likely to be close to 1k and i'm not to sure one the sizing of them
A big trailer is going to be harder to hide in the garden, little ones go on their side I believe so could be stashed behind a screen / hedge potentially
It sounds like the answer is probably a second hand trailer and try it out, and they swap out the car for something like an smax when we decide to change cars. Which may come sooner than anticipated.
I would very much like a T6 but I can't see us being able to afford one for a long time yet!
We're a family with 3 girls (5-10) and have just done a camping trip with our new trailer towed by a seat alhambra.
The trailer is a faro pondus (made in Poland) with extended height sides, approx 2x1.1m, and with roof bars and bikes above the trailer. Cost about £1k new. We go fairly full-on with camping equipment, and we were fully loaded, but it worked really well.
The trailer is loaded with all our camping gear at home which keeps it tidy and ready to roll, and with a soft top it provides useful storage at the Campsite when it rains.
He’s worried about £3k for a trailer so you recommend a T6 at how much?
Mine cost £15k (2017) and I converted it myself. If space is so important then the sale of the current car would probably cover that.
Trailers are quite practical but storage is an issue. I had one when I was extending my house for trips to the tip etc. Sold it after 3 months for what I bought it for. Would have liked to have kept it just for occasional use but storing it was a pain.
TRAILER
Airtek 8 owners here, kayaks, bikes all very familiar!
Unloading the tent is like that scene as they approach the Death Star...that's not a moon it's a rolled Airtek 8...
I'll get some pics up on Flickr later tonight and link them once I've blurred a number plate or two. Very happy to swap a few PMs on this if it will help.
I changed my nice estate for an SMax to deal with the camping gear. After one trip I was so cheesed with the packing I bought a trailer. Good thing I like the SMax anyway and it tows a bit better, although the economy is bobbins 🙁.
As my kids got bigger I had to change my general philosophy of car camping. Switched to a pyramid tent that packed down much smaller than a house style tent. Stopped bringing lots of furniture - sitting on rugs and cushions on floor with low level table for cooking. Use small gas stoves instead of big bottle monsters. Much more sociable and closer to what camping really is I think. Too much stuff is the problem, not lack of space.
All this crap is for me and MrsRNP and Bert the doggo for a 'quick' weekend away in the lakes. We had a LWB Transit so it got filled with everything.
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This is our heavyweight setup!
We also have a large dog on board so that's half the boot gone before we've started. Even with all the kayak gear and bikes (and the towbar rack on top for day trips to CYB) the trailer wasn't full on that trip but it is a bit of a beast (750kg).
We've just come back from a few days away with no bikes, no kayaks and the trailer was only about 2/3 full. We had everything except day packs/jumpers in the trailer ok this trip.
We could definitely get away with something smaller but we got a good deal on this as a last in stock end of season purchase. I'm used to hauling 5-6m long dinghy trailers around and I'd rather a slightly longer, heavier trailer for stability and ease (sort of) of reversing. Short trailers are harder to reverse so I don't mind a bit of oversize!
If you're on the Khyam owners Facebook group I've posted a couple of times on there lately about packing routine etc and there's a few comments around how we make that work with the trailer.
As said, the Anssems trailers are lovely but about the most premium option. Lots of others like the cheap Erdes can have bars on top for bikes. I like the idea of having a trailer of stuff ready to go, just chuck clothes, food, etc in the boot - but I don't like the idea of needing to store it or tow it.
We have a boxy MPV car (Honda Stepwgn) so can get plenty in the boot by piling vertically and there's space under the seats, etc. Then a roofbox on top. No idea how we'd manage in a normal car. Our kit has been expanding more and more though - not just adding new things but comfier versions of chairs, self-inflating mat, etc that are bulkier. And kids stuff, obvs. Definitely a balance to be found, my back can't handle minimal backpacking style kit any more, but you see some people turn up with a massive van plus a trailer of home comforts.
Haven't taken bikes away with us so far, would have to go towbar. TBH have been fine with walking and car trips out so far, or anywhere good to cycle will have hire options nearby.
Now I have a proper keyboard...
Or I put the money towards getting a bigger car – it is only a 1.6l petrol – It seems okay at the moment with current load. Even the biggest SUV I would imagine would struggle to fit this amount of kit comfortably. I’ve even started looking at vans and the like, but they seen another league in pricing!
We worked out you'd be in Q7 territory for anything like the space of a Galaxy or even an S-Max at a massive price premium. We went through this whole process with thoughts of vans too (the threads are probably archived on here from early 2020) but for me they are just too rubbish at daily driving / fuel costs etc for anyone who does mostly normal car stuff and whatever people say they really don't ride or drive like a car.
Pickup with a Truckman top works for us.
In Oz I have a Mitsubishi L200 with rooftop pod and bikes on a roof rack over the tub. Do 3 week trips with four people fine like that.
Farm sales for trailer, might need a clean though.
Trailer tent? That's all your sleeping/cooking/living arrangements sorted, with that space freed up in the car? Plus the benefit of "proper" beds and more space than just a tent?
I think the new long wheel base Berlingo or Peugeot equivalent is a good shout
We have the short wheel base. I love driving it. mpg round turn is better than our previous mid size mpv as it’s lighter. But slightly worse in a motor way. We did 5 adults (full size children) camping no problem. Removing a seat for 2 kids adds more space.
Maybe look at a smaller tent as well.
Family of 5 here - Zafira tourer, small trailer with carriers x 3, 2 carriers on the roof and a narrow box. Car is still quite full but everything's in the boot area and not all around the car.
Two weeks in Devon last year, with two "pre-teens!!", going France this year. Canvas 5m bell tent and poles on the Thule easybase, all sleeping mats and pads in the rear boot underfloor hole. Chairs, cooking stuff (Cobb, plates etc), table, basic beach stuff in the boot, all clothes in the "frunk", then overnight bag in the passenger area. It honestly felt easier than packing the volvo v90 estate we had before! We do pack light and if we need bikes etc you can just rent them.
We don't skimp on our camping equipment, but it all goes in a c-max, largish roofbox and the bikes on the back. Two kids in the back with the coolbox between them. Our tent isn't inflatable though so I guess takes up less room.
Buy the biggest trailer your local tip will let you take
usually 6x4 single axle
nothing worse than having a trailer but not being allowed in the tip with it.
Stand it on end against your house to save space
Don’t get a van. Shit fuel economy the rest of the year when you don’t need the space
Wrong again Molly. I get around 45 out for my LWB 2 litre Diesel on a run. Circa 50 before I put the bigger wheels on.... and thats loaded up with a heavy T1 Bed, Kitchen etc etc.
I wouldnt like to use it as a daily driver but economy isnt the issue.
Family of 5, when the kids were all small(under the age of 8) we could just about manage a long weekend in our Mondeo with a roofbox. Tent, cooking equipment and 5x sleeping bags and roll mats, a couple of changes of clothes seemed to fill all the space, we could forget taking a fridge or any food with us! Only furniture we could manage was a folding table with 4 tiny stools that fit inside.
Once the the kids got older and taller we upsized to an S-Max but gave up on camping because we'd need a van and a trailer. We reckon its cheaper to book a holiday cottage for a couple of weeks a year or budget hotels for a weekend away. Than buy a full size family tent sturdy enough to cope with the wind here in Scotland.
Only one child and a dog (some years ago now) and we would still fill a decent sized estate car to the roof - no bikes or kayaks involved.
It always seemed to rain when it was time to pack the tent away
Life became so much easier when we got a caravan
Life became so much easier when we got a caravan
This. And, a lot of the places we were staying at charge almost the same for a tent with electric hookup as a caravan.
I get around 45 out for my LWB 2 litre Diesel on a run
45 is shit fuel economy, sorry 🙂
Family of 4 here - kids are 2 and 5, plus one old English sheep dog. She goes in the boot, curls up small so we pack around her. Our Vango Icarus 500dlx fits between the kids if I've packed it right, sleeping bags round the kids feet and anything else we can squeeze in there. Everything else goes in the boot with the dog or in the 370L top box. Car is an i40 estate so the boot is huge, makes the dog look small.
Last time we went camping there were a couple of people with trailers which had a roof box on top of the trailer, bikes then on top of the car. Seemed a good idea, doubling the storage on the trailer
Family of 5 with a large dog here. First ever family camping trip at the end of July, only two nights but the amount of stuff is the same for a week
We'll be in a T6 Kombi and two will be sleeping in the van but there's still going to be a lot of stuff! This thread isn't really filling me with confidence
Wasn't planning to take bikes but the tent/awning, plus chairs, mats, sleeping bags etc is going to fill up a lot of space!
This. And, a lot of the places we were staying at charge almost the same for a tent with electric hookup as a caravan.
Costing me £288 for 26 nights at the site I'm on at the moment - hardstanding and hookup. Granted, no loo or showers, but I have those in the van
^dirt cheap
This. And, a lot of the places we were staying at charge almost the same for a tent with electric hookup as a caravan.
Well it should be the same as it's taking the same pitch.
^dirt cheap
CCC Site @ Walton-on-Thames if anyone ever needs to stay inside the ring road of doom/Surrey area
Family of 4 here. We started out with Mazda 5, + roofbox, + towbar bike rack. Now we have a T5 which gets used all the time - just about to head off to a bike race this evening, went climbing with it last weekend, camping at a bike festival next weekend. Perfect vehicle for an active family. Nothing like coming in from a cold trip, putting the heater on for a few minutes and making a brew.
Another caravan vote here. We can chuck some clothes & food in on a Friday lunchtime, leave straight after school, home, unpacked & washing on in half an hour on a Sunday night with no wet tent etc to sort out. Way better for weekends away.
We are off to France with it for 3 weeks in summer. A campsite with kids club costs the same as kids club here, so we'll be working from there for a while.
The flexibility & lack of stress means we have far more adventures than we would otherwise.
I've never been on a campsite that I like that allows caravans
There are plenty of good sites out there, trust me.
Our holiday last year:
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I’ve never been on a campsite that I like that allows caravans
Hold my beer...
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Literally the view from our caravan a few years ago. Three Cliffs Bay, Gower
Where my sister in law is now
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Usually it's a bit more
😗
And then there's festivals - did 2 years of our local large festival in a tent where the weather turned apocalyptic on the next to/last day, then a year (2019) in the caravan, where again, it turned apocalyptic. The feeling of satisfaction sat in the warm and dry with a beer, watching bedraggled festival goers trudge past, dragging their sodden kit away because they'd had enough, was matched in equal measures by the looks of pure hatred towards us, sat in the warm and dry with a beer
No long trek from the car park and endless queues getting in, or having to lug stuff back to the car at the end of the weekend is an added bonus, regardless of the weather
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Our trailer has beds and stuff in it, quite useful really.
45 is shit fuel economy, sorry
I suspect you are drinking the koolaid 😁
All this crap is for me and MrsRNP and Bert the doggo for a ‘quick’ weekend away in the lakes.
I'm glad its not just us.
Two kids, no dog, and still manage to basically fill a FullFat transit to the extent that within 10m of the van is a minefield of plastic boxes, cooking stuff and folding chairs.
We can sleep 4 at a push though, and its only an L2.
Gonna get an event-shelter on order, just to give us some walls to load out stuff against.
Usually it’s a bit more
It often is yes. But I don't stay in those places. Alternatives are available.
When I was young we had a Mirror dinghy, pile all the camping stuff in and put the cover over it. But don't do what our Scout leader did and put a full size Calor cylinder directly in the bottom of his.
When our lad was young we put light stuff in the kayaks (which was OK for roof load as they were lightweight boats) then we got a box trailer.
same dilemna here year before last, already had a passatt tried half roof box, 3 bikes on carriers on roof, dog and camping stuff plus 2 kids in car. couldn't fit paddleboards was going to go down the trailer route as others but got a deal on a T5 Kombi so now we can take as much as required. inflatable tent + awning, 4 bikes, 2 paddleboards, associated paraphenalia, 2 kids and 2 dogs now! bikes on a 3 bike towbar carrier smallest bike in the back, everything else in the back. It has removed a large amount of stress out of packing and travelling if not a cheap vehicle to own and run. Cant go back now so hope the van lasts!
We managed a weeks camping with a 6 man tent & gumpf in an Alhambra plus Thule fabric roof box. Also took my sons manual chair and walking frame somehow.
Bit stymied last year when he got an electric chair- that and the ramps fill the boot so we had to get a trailer.
Only drawback is the 300 mile drive from Kent to Cardigan at 60mph
I’ve never been on a campsite that I like that allows caravans
I get that sentiment. And agree that I wouldn't want to be parked up where your view is spoiled by a bunch of other white boxes, and you sit out on a small square patch of gravel.
There are, however, stunning campsites that also accommodate caravans. 3 Cliffs Bay, on the Gower, as above. Chlachtoll, up in Assynt, to name 2 places we've been.
Anyway. Family of 4 here, with 2 teenage girls and a dog. Skoda Roomster for a few years, latterly with a clapped out trailer I bought locally and built up the sides on.
Last year, swapped that out for a Ford Grand Tourneo Connect. Tons of space. Not ideal as an urban runabout, but the 7 seats are handy for daughters' friends, our elderley parents etc.
get that sentiment. And agree that I wouldn’t want to be parked up where your view is spoiled by a bunch of other white boxes,
It's funny isn't it as I just don't worry about the view in that way from the site for family/luxury camping. Give me good showers and bogs, neighbors who understand noise etiquette and rapid access to the trails/water and I'm a happy camper. A nice view on the site is just a bonus.
Wild or lightweight camping I kind of get that view/lack of white sheds thing being more important. Those are some stunning sites up there though. 🙂
So I have picked up a mini camping trailer from a neighbour, erde 101 for a relative cheap price. It’s a 110x90x30
Now trying to work out what accessories to buy. Sadly they don’t do a hard top for it, so the plan of a hard top and load bars is out of the window. I need 50cm of depth for the tent.
I’m thinking you can get mesh sides and a cover for it for a sensible price so that gives the depth. Now I am trying to work out how to carry the bikes.
Choice seems to be fine some load bars to fit (google is failing me) or maybe I use my saris bones on the hatch and the trailer on the tow.
We will still have a roof box and space for one bike on the roof.
Is that a stupid idea? Any idea where you can get load bars from that would be extendable enough (erdes won’t work)
erde 101
You may be worth keeping an eye out for a bit bigger trailer. Once like that are so small adding racks and hard tops will be tough as they are only made for minimal loads and would be horribly unbalanced with anything stacked up. Bigger tows better as, I don't mean massive but just say 1.5 m ideally closer to 1.8m and wider would make all the difference and still able to stand on end out of the way.
Bigger tows better
And easier to reverse
I'm kind of on a budget so couldn't be too choosy I knew it was the smallest trailer they do. for the what I paid hopefully I can pass it on for the same after I give it a bit of tlc maybe more.
anyone know of a place that does custom load bars? I'm quite happy to put some holes in it to fit
Someone just bought our old roofbars and bike rack to do exactly that. They have literally just drilled trailer and clamped on with U-bolts.
To get more depth My old man just built a square frame out of ply that sat on top of the metal work and made the trailer a foot deeper by 2ft. Which meant the frame tent bags could go in vertically
Wouldn't be hard to make a hard top for that .....and bolt on bike racks.
Anything you can do to make it taller /visible out your window will make it easier to reverse as by the time you see those erdes in your wing mirrors it's too late to do anything about it.
Just watch your payload (about 250kg) and also your tires .... They don't do many miles so tires rot out from UV exposure before they wear out.... Most folk find this out when they explode on a trip......
I learned trailering with one...... It was hell due to the short draw bar and narrow width it would snap left and right so quick. ..now I have an ifor Williams gd84 - it's about 14ft long and compared to the erde I can put it anywhere I want with precision....even on the back of a 23ft van I can get it in my driveway which is only 2ft wider than the trailer (and off a single-track road)
Just cheap square bars and unbolts through the rim of the trailer worked when I did this.
How’s everyone getting on with fitting summer holidays into vehicles?
We were ok for a camping trip with two adults, three kids and a dog. But we have a van. Didn’t take bikes, would need towbar rack or similar for that. Didn’t take SUP but that would have been fine too
Now on normal holiday in an AirBnB house, no bikes but SUP and beach stuff. Piece of cake in the van thankfully, would have been a struggle in the previous car (e class estate with roofbox), actually maybe not even possible
2 adults, 2 kids, 4 bikes, tent, stoves , clothes, bedding (inc. duvet & pillows), beach stuff (inc. shorty wersuits), 4 chairs (v. compact lightweight type), picnic table, kitchen unit, cool box, towels etc will fit into or on a Kia Ceed (just).
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