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Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land
That's a geographically variable truth.
There’s no such place as Honnah Lee and dragons do not live forever.
You misheard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honiley
If her majesty didn’t have a lot to say, why was she always making speeches?
Lady Ga-Ga has a song called speechless. Where she proceeds to sing for a full four and a half mins.
So not speechless at all then.
Mr. Jackson was, of course, not “BAD” by any reasonable definition of the word.
Mr. Jackson was, of course, not “BAD” by any reasonable definition of the word.
I dunno about that, the multiple out of court settlements suggest he was probably at least a litttle bit naughty.
I'm travelling at the speed of light
So your mass is zero? Seems unlikely
Defying the laws of gravity
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, we've not see any evidence of anything defying the rules of gravity
I'm a rocket ship on my way to Mars on a collision course
Fair enough, I remember Beagle 2
Mr. Jackson was, of course, not “BAD” by any reasonable definition of the word.
As I recall, at the time "bad" was similar to use of "sick" today. Possibly a contraction of "bad ass," I don't think he was singing about his IBS though.
Walked out this morning, I don't believe what I saw
Hundred billion bottles washed up on the shore
that ones always concerned me...that's around 2 x 6packs for the whole world population
that ones always concerned me…that’s around 2 x 6packs for the whole world population
Apparently 2 trillion drinks containers are made every year
As I recall, at the time “bad” was similar to use of “sick” today. Possibly a contraction of “bad ass,” I don’t think he was singing about his IBS though.
No, I don't think he was talking about IBS. With the benefit of hindsight, it does quite likely that he was quite a naughty boy, but I guess he bought off the witnesses so we'll never really know for sure.
simondbarnes
....Apparently 2 trillion drinks containers are made every year
good point...but now I'm concerned it's just a throw away line
Toto: As sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus above the Serengeti
No.
No it doesn't
I am inclined to think that Mr Pitney's distance from Tulsa varied a little more than his frequent pronouncements on the subject indicated.
Fact checking aside, the logistics and planning skills of this song writer certainly leave a lot to be desired. That would be a red flag for me.
You can reach me by railway
You can reach me by trailway
You can reach me on an airplane
You can reach me with your mind
You can reach me by caravan
Cross the desert like an Arab man
I don't care how you get here
Just get here if you can
You can reach my by sail boat
Climb a tree and swing rope to rope
Take a sled and slide down slow
Into these arms of mine
You can jump on a speedy colt
Cross the border in a blaze of hope
I don't care how you get here
Just get here if you can
There are hills and mountains between us
Always something to get over
But if I had my way
Surely you would be closer
I need you closer
You can wind surf into my life
Take me up on a carpet ride
You can make it in a big balloon
But you better make it soon
You can reach me by caravan
Cross the desert like an Arab man
I don't care how you get here
Just get here if you can
There are hills and mountains between us
Always something to get over
But if I had my way
Surely you would be closer
I need you closer
You can wind surf into my life
Take me up on a carpet ride
You can make it in a big balloon
But you better make it soon
You can reach me by caravan
Cross the desert like an Arab man
I don't care how you get here
Just get here if you can
I don't care how you get here
Just get here if you can
Wayne Carson did actually have time to take a fast train, he was just impatient. He was also wrong about neon lights, they do not warm the coldest nights.
The Bee Gees scored a number one in 1987 with ‘you win again’.
Unless getting a whopping 10% off instore bakery items with my lidls scratchcard counts as winning, my luck has been nonexistent since then, messrs Gibb. Thanks.
Did the lights all go out in Massachusetts?
Surely "Staying Alive" is the Bee Gees' biggest untruth.
"No no, no, no no no, no, no no no, there's no limit"
Well there is, and it's 20 everywhere nowadays.
Nah, they were definitely alive when they were singing "stayin' alive".
It can be easily fact checked.
Whilst the British variant of the original French TV show debuted in 1965 under a different name (Des chiffres et des lettres), by 1986 Countdown was four years old. Since then have been very many countdowns. In fact, given changes in formats, spin-offs and overseas variants, I would suggest there have been countless countdowns in the intervening period.
Europe - you were very much wrong.
The barbers was in Smithdown Place not Penny Lane.
Ducks don't really groove about and have fun in the sun, unless you feed them a bit more than just a plain old bun.
‘Buy a house in Devon/Drink cider from a lemon’.
I mean, it [i]is[/i] possible to drink cider from a lemon, but not very practical.
drink cider from a lemon, but not very practical.
Depends on the size of the lemon really. Something water-melon sized would be a good vessel. Something plum sized not so good.
Michael Jackson charted in 1978 with ‘blame it on the boogie’.
In the song, he remarked how he “just can’t control his feet”.
His feet were the least of our concerns.
Did the lights all go out in Massachusetts?
Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_1965
a lycanthropic cat
Not possible.
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Sorry, but I’m just not going to try to edit that complete cluster**** piece of crappy formatting. I thought that had all been sorted out!
I'm sorry, Fountains of Wayne, but you've spent too long on Pronhub and it's never gonna happen.
Well, it would appear no night is alright for fighting.
In the archive footage I've seen of Nancy Sinatra, those boots weren't made for walking. They'd need a substantially lower heel, more tread and a degree more ankle support.
I'd warrant those boots were made for something, but it ain't walking.
I suspect that Beijing has more than 9 million bikes within the city limits.
I have often challenged that this cannot be “a fact - a thing you cannot change.” Surely a theft of one bicycle would make it 8,999,999 bicycles. Katie Melua didn’t respond to my query and has not done so in intervening years.
I doubt that within Beijing the net change in bicycles is in the order of 1. I also doubted that a bicycle census was even possible or that a reconciliation would be practical.
Therefore I contended and still contend that Katie had no idea of the number of bicycles in Beijing or how it could change. I also doubt she defined what a bicycle would consist of a complete machine or whether a complete set of components - sufficient to make a bicycle would be counted.
Therefore, I doubt the accuracy of her statement and her ability to make an accurate assessment.
Early morning, April four
Shot rings out in the Memphis sky.
It was 6:05pm.
Surely a theft of one bicycle would make it 8,999,999 bicycles.
No it wouldn't. There could still be 9 million bicycles in Beijing, legal ownership does not guarantee geographical location.
Plus as I pointed out earlier there were considerable more than just 9 million bicycles in Beijing when Katie Melua made the claim. There were in fact 9 million bicycles plus hundreds of thousands more bicycles.
https://discerningcyclist.com/how-many-bicycles-in-beijing/
Katie Melua makes it clear. There are nine million bicycles in Beijing. That's a fact. It's a thing we can't deny.
Where she isn't quite so sure she also makes that clear...... We are twelve billion light years from the edge. That's a guess. No-one can ever say it's true.
Sorry Ernie, by theft I meant theft and subsequent removal from Beijing!
Also, if there were more than 9 million bicycles in Beijing, should Katie not have said: “There’s at least 9 million bicycles in Beijing, more in fact.”
catching up on old theads
So by that token saying there's 3 people in a string quartet is an actual fact?
Kilimanjaro is no where near the Serengeti, despite what Toto might tell you.*
*Stolen from Bill Bailey.
As sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus above the Serengeti
I hate that lyric line! 😖
according to google maps it's 400km from Kili to the edge of the Serengeti national park - so although not part of the park, and not visible, at least Toto are in the right country...
An army made up of seven different nations couldn't hold one person back....I'm not buying it.
at least Toto are in the right country…
Not really. The song claims "rises like Olympus above the Serengeti."
Olympus is in Greece, not even the right the right continent.
I think that proves just how big it appears to be.
Laibach (and think of England), famously smashed into the pop charts with ‘Life is Life’.
Taking into account, time off for good behaviour, and only 1% of criminals actually spend their entire life in prison.
If you shot a man in Reno just to watch him die, you'd be in prison in Nevada, not California. Also, someone stuck in Folsom prison would be unlikely to hear a train that's rolling down to San Antonio in Texas.
Well, it would appear no night is alright for fighting
As it happens that song was written about the Market Rasen pub, the Aston Arms. Bernie spent a bit of time there as a teenager and apparently it was quite the place for fighting. Having played for the local school rugby team and the Louth and Market Rasen RUFC many years later, we were made aware of this fact.
If you shot a man in Reno just to watch him die
That reminds me.
If looks could kill, you would NOT be lying on the floor, begging me please please please, don't hurt me no more!
You'd be dead.
Heart are probably thinking of "if looks were very, verypainful".
If looks could kill, you would NOT be lying on the floor, begging me please please please, don’t hurt me no more!
You’d be dead.
But it says could not would. Crocodiles can kill, but they don't always. Perhaps it depends on how you wield the looks. They could be positioned along a spectrum - on which may be death... or maybe in more extreme circumstances the destruction of the universe.
But it says could not would. Crocodiles can kill, but they don’t always. Perhaps it depends on how you wield the looks.
Sure, but they always try to, some of them are just incompetent. Probably due to bad parenting. If your superpower was having looks that can kill, you should be able to maintain a 100% kill rate, all you have to do is look at someone, after all. If you just pissed around trying to maim someone, you're not the kind of disciplined professional that would be chosen to be granted that superpower in the first place.
By that logic, if looks could kill, it's totally possible that you're just as incompetent as your crap crocodile.
as incompetent as your crap crocodile.
Au contraire ... my crocodile is a finely honed reptilian assassin. It's just I've got all the moves. And the gaffa tape. When you've trained them yourself you also know their weaknesses.
If your superpower was having looks that can kill, you should be able to maintain a 100% kill rate
Looks can be used as a strategic deterrent - just like nuclear weapons. The most successful lookers have a substantial stockpile of looks ready to be deployed if geopolitical incidents demand such a response.
thols2
Full MemberIf you shot a man in Reno just to watch him die, you’d be in prison in Nevada, not California. Also, someone stuck in Folsom prison would be unlikely to hear a train that’s rolling down to San Antonio in Texas.
In defence of Mr Cash I suspect his train was rolling on down to San Antonia, California a district just east of San Francisco.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Antonio,_Oakland,_California
https://www.caltrain.com/station/sanantonio
Looks can be used as a strategic deterrent
They certainly are in our house.
If you shot a man in Reno just to watch him die, you’d be in prison in Nevada, not California
But is that the crime for which he is serving time in the song?
I'm puttin' on my top hat,
Tyin' up my white tie,
Brushin' off my tails.
I'm dudin' up my shirt front,
Puttin' in the shirt studs,
Won't the shirt front and studs will be sorted before tying up the tie and the hat be the last item to be put in place as one departs a building?
Kilimanjaro is higher than the Serengeti*, right?
So is Olympus*.
Therefore technically correct - they both rise above it, visible or not. They also rise above, um, Norfolk. You're just assuming they have to be close together.
* (Assumed, cos they're mountains. Not fact checked)
Won’t the shirt front and studs will be sorted before tying up the tie and the hat be the last item to be put in place as one departs a building?
You've never met anyone who wears a hat everywhere? Never takes it it off, even when in the office or in their house, possibly even in the bath. These days it tends to be beany-type hats but I'm guessing that people did the same with top hats, flat caps, those big Japanese basket type hats...
If Guitar George knows all the chords then how many chords does he know? Is there not potentially an almost infinite number of possible chords, albeit with many of them being horrifically dissonant and/or physically impossible for a human to play on a guitar.
according to google maps it’s 400km from Kili to the edge of the Serengeti national park – so although not part of the park, and not visible, at least Toto are in the right country…
SO if we break this down logically we might be able to put it to bed.
I think what Toto were trying to say was
"Just like Kilimanjaro rises over the Serengeti in exactly the same way that Olympus rises over the Serengeti,
Because you can't see Kilimanjaro rising if you were to be standing somewhere in or on the Serengeti 'cos it's 400km away.
In exactly the same way as you'd be unable to see Olympus rising 'cos it's actually on a different continent"
So, actually, Toto were right.
I'm not sure it scans quite as eloquently as the original, but it would help to appease any Geographically-minded pedants listening to it several decades later.
So, actually, Toto were right.
Still a crap song, anyway!
If you're still finding the opportunity to listen to Toto's 41 year old piece of MOR blandness, I think you need to check your listening options rather than the lyric of aforementioned song 😛
If Guitar George knows all the chords then how many chords does he know?
Possibly just the 7 needed to play the song. He may have to check the chords needed for the next song. (But he's strictly rhythm so doesn't need to bother checking what key it's in.)
More importantly where is London town?
Where, and which faraway towns is it calling? Can London use the phone? I mean it was 1979, so couldn't email towns a long way away. How far is faraway?
But we can at least agree that there may be many reasons not to listen to the song, but geographical inaccuracy isn’t actually one of them?
When Squeeze were Pulling Muscles (From the Shell) they said that:
Behind the chalet
My holiday's complete
And I feel like William Tell
Maid Marian on her tiptoed feet
Did William Tell really travel all the way from Switzerland to a chalet in Center Parks Sherwood Forest to meet up with Marian?
IF you understand music theory well enough then you ostensibly know all useable chords or at least those definable through diatonic theory - it then becomes a matter of figuring out the voicing (which note where) to get it to fit on the fingerboard... Sultans Of Swing is effectively 4 chords VI, V, IV and a bit of I
I'm not sure Kelis' milkshake brings all the boys to the yard?
If Guitar George knows all the chords then how many chords does he know? Is there not potentially an almost infinite number of possible chords, albeit with many of them being horrifically dissonant and/or physically impossible for a human to play on a guitar.
If you are including dissonant and impossible ones then everyone knows them all:
0-0-0-0-0-0
1-0-0-0-0-0
2-0-0-0-0-0
etc
Possibly just the 7 needed to play the song.
No, because the Dire Straits song is not part of the Sultans of Swing repertoire, quite clearly.
Did William Tell really travel all the way from Switzerland to a chalet in Center Parks Sherwood Forest to meet up with Marian?
No, it's a simile.
Did William Tell really travel all the way from Switzerland to a chalet in Center Parks Sherwood Forest to meet up with Marian?
The rest of the song suggests they are at the seaside, Camber Sands?
Did William Tell really travel all the way from Switzerland to a chalet in Center Parks Sherwood Forest to meet up with Marian?
The rest of the song suggests they are at the seaside, Camber Sands?
I was at a Chris Difford gig a few weeks ago. He said that this song was autobiographical. I believe him. 😀
Possibly just the 7 needed to play the song.
No, because the Dire Straits song is not part of the Sultans of Swing repertoire, quite clearly.
Who said anything about the Dire Straits song? There are only 5 chords needed for SoS. 😛
When we were kids we tried to phone up (Whole Lotta) Rosie using her number helpfully listed in the song. Tried the Australia country code and everything but couldn’t get through. They should’ve fact checked it.
So, actually, Toto were right.
I have have just checked the dictionary definition of 'rises', it means an upward motion.
Neither Kilimanjaro nor Mount Olympus are moving upwards.
Toto were full of shit.
I might have believed them if they had claimed that Kilimanjaro and Olympus stands above the Serengeti.
Which reminds me of this:
RATM: “now you do what they told ya”.
Despite the recommendations of others, I have failed to ‘go copulate with myself’. Not even close😉
ah yes, the irony of everyone doing as they were told and downloading RATM to stop X factor being Christmas number 1
Neither Kilimanjaro nor Mount Olympus are moving upwards.
A quick look at the tectonic plates suggests that you are correct about Kilimanjaro. There's possibly bad news about Olympus. It's on the Eurasian plate which is being forced upwards by the African plate running under it. Olympus is probably rising imperceptibly every year as a result.
I might have believed them if they had claimed that Kilimanjaro and Olympus stands above the Serengeti.
The Serengeti area is a plain and as such only the sky is above it. If either mountain were standing above it it would be a cave or perhaps a geological stratum.