[Closed] F1 on the BBC - good or bad news?

Personally can't stand Humphrey so the sooner he's gone the better.

I do think that BBC coverage of F1 is on borrowed time now anyway so I've resigned myself to the fact that sooner rather than later it will only be available on pay to view television.

Lee McKenzie is a great fill in when Jake isn't at the race, so makes no odds to me.

The amount of money being bandied about for sports events though these days is crazy!

Don't the BBC want rid of F1? It'll just be showing highlights soon.

I hate the amount of "filler" that goes along with sports these days, 10 mins before and after is the maximum required, just get on with the sport instead of all the crap analysis and parade of hasbins.

Is the BBC now getting priced out of the market, looking at the figures quoted in the linked article the beeb are on a hiding to nothing for big sports coverage which is a shame as , on the whole, their coverage is better than their competitors 🙁

Is the BBC now getting priced out of the market, looking at the figures quoted in the linked article the beeb are on a hiding to nothing for big sports coverage which is a shame as , on the whole, their coverage is better than their competitors

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The BBC have been crap at sport for ages, Hansen and lawrenson "the Liverpool chuckle brothers" on football, Suzy Perry's moustache on motogp, Clair Baldings on everything showing a complete lack of knowledge on anything other than horses. Who remembers the last winter Olympics? it was the worst presentation I have ever seen of sports, performing monkeys could have done better.

People seem to have some kind of misplaced nostalgic view of the BBC's coverage that just doesn't match reality.

So long as they don't trot out Clare Balding to comment on another sport she knows nothing about I couldn't give a horses hoof who presents it

People seem to have some kind of misplaced nostalgic view of the BBC's coverage that just doesn't match reality.

The BBC are awesome at sport when they are allowed to be. See F1 before the recent issues, the Olympics, six nations etc

But all to often they are forced to pander to anti-sport/anti-publically funded boardcasting scaremongering to reduce their spending etc. When this happens, as it did with the Winter Olympics, the BBC can try to spread its self too thin trying to provide quaility and a broad reach at the same time and therefore fall short.

Why do you think Clare Balading has to cover everything. Its because they don't have the budget to nurture and retain quality specialists who know about their and how to present live TV. Jake going is just another example of this.

F1 has been poor ever since it came back to the bbc, Jake H was a knowledgeles buffoon, the Olympics were great, not so the BBC coverage, six nations I can't comment on but I know few rugby fans who think much of Inverdale.

Haterz gonna hate.

Name me what you consider to be the pinacle of quality sports broadcasting if the examples I gave were duds for you.

so here is whats going to happen,
bbc give up all rights and just have highlights at 10pm on a sunday, due to falling viewing figures, it goes exclusive to sky.
sky and bernie ecc. say the f1 coverage on sky will be the best ever seen.
figures plummet as the price goes up to watch and no one wants to pay
sponsors and manufacturers start to complain and leave
revenue to bernie falls
sky doesnt want to pay the bernie bill
BT buys it for 2 years in an overpriced deal saying it will be the best coverage ever.
figures and revenue drop further
2019 - bbc bids and wins live coverage of all races at a cut down cost and say its the best coverage that there has ever been.
..and so the circle continues...

Olympics were great, not so the BBC coverage

Which other British TV station was showing them?

I like the BBC F1 coverage apart from Humphries and Eddie Jordan. Without those, it'd be top notch.

TBH I only watch the race and that's the same coverage whoever the broadcaster is. The hours pre race program generally bores me. Also I can't understand how Sky can turn a 1.5hr race into a 4.5hr show? Who actually watches it all?

I'd prefer not to have my BBC tax wasted on F1. How can the BBC justify paying for this advertisment drive greed fest.

That's disappointing but not unexpected. I expect the Beeb can't wait to be rid of F1 now.

Personally I'm still annoyed with the whole thing, I really liked the pre-Sky BBC line up, and the Sky F1 coverage is irritating.

The only good thing to come out of it is Gary Anderson's reporting.

mt - Member

I'd prefer not to have my BBC tax wasted on F1. How can the BBC justify paying for this advertisment drive greed fest.

Yes, cut out all sport. 🙄

I'd prefer not to have my BBC tax wasted on F1. How can the BBC justify paying for this advertisment drive greed fest.

So no sport should be shown on the BBC then? I can't think of a top level sport that isn't driven by money and advertising.

That is the thing that makes the BBC so great though. You don't get to choose what they show.

And I still think they have provided some of the best sports broadcasting anywhere in the world. Nobody has yet been able to provide examples of anything better.

-The red button coverage of the olympics was truely groundbreaking.
-Things like forums etc for fans who want more analysis are a great inovation without impacting the time scheduled to it for casual fans
-The F1 coverage, particularly the pre and post race bits, really did pick up ITVs excellent coverage and take it to the next level. Just watch the clip when they showed Seb Vettel the double world champions VT for some truely compelling viewing.

And the Olympics proved there is public demand for more sport on TV that isn't football. Lets just hope the BBC are allowed to step up to the plate and deliver.

mt - Member
I'd prefer not to have my BBC tax wasted on F1. How can the BBC justify paying for this advertisment drive greed fest.

I'd prefer not to have my license fee money wasted on all the drivel that is currently shown, and have it replaced with more F1 coverage. People in liking different things shocker!

I supposed it's a good argument against the whole BBC / license fee arrangement. Maybe we'd be better off if we could choose what to spend our money on.
That said, the BBC does generally make better quality programmes than any commercial channel.

Maybe we'd be better off if we could choose what to spend our money on.

Noooooo.

Quite. That only works as far as I'm concerned if only the people who feel the same as I do bother to vote and all the Strictly and Eastenders fans are staple gunned to their sofas with the batteries removed from their remotes!

It getting to the stage that the best things the bbc shows is all on bbc4. I've watched more ITV 4 recently than anything else which is a bit sad.
To be honest bernnie is trying to move F1 to where the money is it seems europe is not part of that plan.

glenh

Agree with all your comments regarding the BBC apart from the more F1. Often the BBC is so much better at presenting sport or anything else (there are a few notable exceptions).

The BBC should be paid by some of the sports if they want the brilliant coverage that could make them look good. I'm sure that many of the advertiser would be happy to know that there money was going toget them seen on a quality tv channel.

If I was the BBC i'd have a look around and see what sports there were that would be worth supporting and helping to grow. I would be cheaper for a while till SKY came along to steal it. In fact what happened to Scrambling on Saturday afternoon, why can't we have a bit of that again (John Banks was my hero, also I know it was on ITV). What about putting a bid in for the the TdF or World Downhill. Anyway they should be doing a bit different think on what popular sports they could cover. Apprently lots of folk go course fishing, get that presented by Paul Whitehouse and Charlie Higson, whats not to like? :-

Though it may not seem like it a good portion of this post is an attempt to be humourous. and I stand by my fishing idea.

Far too much "padding" on BBC F1 coverage, I watch on iPlayer and skip most of it.
MotoGP coverage is good, but sometimes feels a bit rushed, could do with an extra 15 mins from most races.

Olympics were great, not so the BBC coverage

You did see the c4 coverage of the paralympics? bar the promotional advert it was like they let a load of 6 formers lose.

Far too much "padding" on BBC F1 coverage,

I love it all, lazy Sunday watching the GP3, GP2 on Sky, switch to BBC at 12:10 for the F1 build up, back to Sky at 1 for the race and finally back to the beeb for the red button forum

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Now here's a theory - the Beeb think Coulthard's off to Sky and they've lost Humphrey so need an audience puller. Meanwhile Hamilton is out of love with McLaren, wants to go to Ferrari/RB and not commit his future to Mercedes so decides to take a year out and.. hey presto - Hamilton signs for the BBC for 2013.

You heard it here first.

And probably last.

Hamilton signs for the BBC for 2013.

He's not got much personality has he though.

Button I could see doing it. Not that he needs the money.

Personally I've been watching on Sky the whole season. F1 is so much better without Eddie Jordan.

Can't stand Humpfries, Lee is so much better. When she was at Border TV she did a few bits on 7Stanes and I had the pleasure of meeting her 😆

F1 is so much better without Eddie Jordan.

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Since I don't have sky, I usually record it and then fast froward all the bits where eddie jordan is on. 🙂

p.s. I wouldn't be to upset if the beeb replaced F1 with WRC rally. I enjoy that just as much, it must be way cheaper and currently isn't available on terrestrial tv.

I wouldn't be to upset if the beeb replaced F1 with WRC rally. I enjoy that just as much, it must be way cheaper and currently isn't available on terrestrial tv

Lots of people picking holes on the BBC coverage of sport But can anyone actually come up with an example of sport coverage done better by someone else?

Sky's coverage of the 90 mins of football is way better than the BBC's. Both are pretty poor at the pre- and post- match stuff. Sky are also pretty good at cricket, but it is so long since the BBC had proper coverage it is difficult to compare. NBC's and CBS's NFL coverage is better than the Beeb's.

The BBC's coverage of cycling is rubbish, road track whatever. That's an area that they could take and get a lot of support.

Lots of people picking holes on the BBC coverage of sport But can anyone actually come up with an example of sport coverage done better by someone else?

Formula 1 is better on RTL.
I found the coverage of the Olympics on German state TV had much better commentary and insight and far less bombastic, although didn't show half as much.
Eurosport used to do motorbike racing better, although not seen that for a while.

Formula 1 is better on RTL

What do they do better? I belive you but I'm intrigued what they do that is so good. More technical analysis? Slicker production? What.

More about the race, less of a geekfest. They treat it as a sporting event rather than a sci-fi convention.

less of a geekfest

I was convinced your critisism was going to be that it was too Top Gear and not enough spreadsheets, aero diagrams and talk of tyre stratergies. I.e. Gaz pad vs Sky pad!

LOL, if you can;t see how geeky the bbc f1 coverage is, then you must be an f1 geek.