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Daffy
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And again – LH gets stuck, where FA gets passed.
Nothing to do with the AM clearly having better pace than the merc then lmao
Well, that was fun! 😆
Feel sorry for LeClerc... again FFS! He was doing a solid job with the tools provided up to that point 🙄
Nando looked like he was enjoying himself 😆
Really hoping AM can keep up the push as the season progresses.
Even though I'm not a fan of Verstappen that was a pretty much flawless performance. Another fine recovery drive from Perez too 😆
Did anyone else feel like there was still a bit of a grudge between Checo and Max after qualifying? Body language read like it to me somehow.
Nothing to do with the AM clearly having better pace than the merc then lmao
FA was only catching LH at 0.1s per lap. when he finally did, LH and FA raced within a second of each other for 5 laps and caught Sainz within 4 laps, FA passed LH at turn 10 (no one else made an overtake at turn 10) and passed Sainz within 2, maybe 3 laps with LH right behind him. LH ended up staying behind Sainz and until the end and was almost 10 second behind FA. Sainz was driving slowly, his tyres were shot and he was only fast in a straight line. LH didn;t make the pass in the corners where FA did, he kept waitng for the straights/turn 4 and the DRS and/or for Sainz to make a mistake.
Watch the race - none of this can be disputed, it's all there on screen.
IF the Aston was substantially faster than the Merc, why did it take FA so long to catch LH, why was Stroll unable to pass GR, how could LH and FA dance for lap after lap regardless of which car was in front?
I'm a LH fan, but I'm not a blind fan.
FA was only catching LH at 0.1s per lap. when he finally did, LH and FA raced within a second of each other for 5 laps and caught Sainz within 4 laps, FA passed LH at turn 10 (no one else made an overtake at turn 10) and passed Sainz within 2, maybe 3 laps with LH right behind him. LH ended up staying behind Sainz and until the end and was almost 10 second behind FA. Sainz was driving slowly, his tyres were shot and he was only fast in a straight line. LH didn;t make the pass in the corners where FA did, he kept waitng for the straights/turn 4 and the DRS and/or for Sainz to make a mistake.
Watch the race – none of this can be disputed, it’s all there on screen.
IF the Aston was substantially faster than the Merc, why did it take FA so long to catch LH, why was Stroll unable to pass GR, how could LH and FA dance for lap after lap regardless of which car was in front?
I’m a LH fan, but I’m not a blind fan.
Given the same car as Hamilton Russell couldn't even challenge an average driver with broken wrists.
Anyhow, terrible race and ominous for the season ahead. Great to see the regulation changes last season have made such a dramatic difference though.....
I’m a LH fan, but I’m not a blind fan.
Maybe not, but you are desperate to "prove" your rather strange assertion, which I don't think I've seen proposed by any respected F1 journalist
The only thing I’ll add - Alonso was going for his first podium in years, I’m not sure LH could care less if he’s 4th or 5th.
Desperate? 😂
The only thing I’ll add – Alonso was going for his first podium in years, I’m not sure LH could care less if he’s 4th or 5th.
I don’t believe that for a moment. Rule 1.) Beat your teammate. Rule 2.) Beat everyone else. They’re always racing for position. It HAS to matter.
I think Hamilton has lost a bit of interest now. I'm sure I head one of the commentators say something about him not going anywhere until he had his 8th championship but might have miss heard as I wasn't paying proper attention at the time but I can't see this happening now if they do go for normal sidepods then everyone's got a couple of years on them and as good as they are by the time that happens he'll be retired.
As you were for Red Bull and Ferrari then. Enjoyed the Aston Martin v Mercedes tussles though!
Daffy
FA was only catching LH at 0.1s per lap. when he finally did, LH and FA raced within a second of each other for 5 laps and caught Sainz within 4 laps, FA passed LH at turn 10 (no one else made an overtake at turn 10) and passed Sainz within 2, maybe 3 laps with LH right behind him. LH ended up staying behind Sainz and until the end and was almost 10 second behind FA. Sainz was driving slowly, his tyres were shot and he was only fast in a straight line. LH didn;t make the pass in the corners where FA did, he kept waitng for the straights/turn 4 and the DRS and/or for Sainz to make a mistake.
Watch the race – none of this can be disputed, it’s all there on screen.
IF the Aston was substantially faster than the Merc, why did it take FA so long to catch LH, why was Stroll unable to pass GR, how could LH and FA dance for lap after lap regardless of which car was in front?
I’m a LH fan, but I’m not a blind fan.
I almost can't be bothered to talk about this, it's such a bizarre point to make.
Lewis has shown many times that he can cut through the field, probably the most famous one being turkey 2006 when he came back from p18 to take p2 and thus win the gp2 championship (so identical cars & no DRS).
The AM is just clearly faster and better car in every area than the Merc is. But don't take my word for it
https://www.mercedesamgf1.com/reports/bahrain-grand-prix-2023
Whoops that 👆 post sounds way more aggy than I meant it to be on reading it back... But I can't now edit it.
Just imagine I'm making the same points without being a dick about it
I’m not sure what I find more tedious: yet another Red Bull cruise to a 1-2 or yet another page or two of an STW F1 thread filled with bickering about one person’s opinion about a driver.
I'm not sure I'm going to bother watching the highlights....after all the anticipation after pre-season testing it does look like the season is done and dusted in terms of who wins. As far as I can see, almost nothing has really changed since last season with RB comfortably ahead, Ferrari probably 2nd...and the only change is AM joining the scrap with Mercedes for places when Ferrari break down or blow their strategy calls.
I hope I'm wrong.
I don't know as the race was so exciting that I slept through most of it.
I hope I’m wrong
I will guarantee that you’re wrong. Bahrain is a weird circuit that’s pretty much unlike everything else. I think the title is RB’s but I don’t think for a second that they won’t have to fight for it.
As a race it was OK - some good action between Alonso and Lewis, and further down the field too. Albon doing the business again.
It's just that feeling of aaaaahhh-shit you got when Max sailing off into the distance without having to push it at any time.
The aaaaahhh-shit feeling seeing McLaren so far off the pace - again.
The aaaaahhh-shit feeling seeing a Ferrari parked up - again.
The aaaaahhh-shit feeling seeing of knowing Perez isn't capable of taking a fight to Max. So not even a team-mate battle to look forward too.
The aaaaahhh-shit feeling of 'well that's the 2023 title over'! 🙂
Really depends if you're only interested in the winners or the ebb and flow up and down the grid. Williams seem to have taken a step forward, with more to come once their new structure settles down. McLaren have done worse than Merc - at this rate Lando will be a sure thing for Audi. At the front I don't think we really know what the gap to RBR is - Max was easing away comfortably then (allegedly) had some mechanical grumbles, so if he was being challenged I expect there's a fair bit of pace left for him to explore. But F1 was ever thus - we tend to see periods of dominance by one team as they exploit the regulations better than the rest, then either the regs change or people move on and the next challenger steps up. I'd say that RBR's performance in 2021 - catching and (caveated) beating the previous dominant team - is the exception rather than the rule.
Twodogs
Full MemberI’m not sure I’m going to bother watching the highlights….after all the anticipation after pre-season testing it does look like the season is done and dusted in terms of who wins. As far as I can see, almost nothing has really changed since last season with RB comfortably ahead, Ferrari probably 2nd…and the only change is AM joining the scrap with Mercedes for places when Ferrari break down or blow their strategy calls.
I hope I’m wrong.
Worth watching for the alonso/hamilton scrap if nothing else!
Bahrain is a weird circuit that’s pretty much unlike everything else. I think the title is RB’s but I don’t think for a second that they won’t have to fight for it.
This. The cars have only run on one circuit, one which puts heavy load on the rear tyres. The Mercs and Ferraris had to nurse their rear tyres, the Red Bulls and Aston Martins didn't. Other circuits will require different car characteristics. Red Bull clearly have a very good car, but Bahrain almost certainly exaggerated their advantage.
Bahrain is a weird circuit
There was some stat they were quoting on R5 that the winner of Bahrain hasn't gone on to win the Championship since 2016 (I think)
Really depends if you’re only interested in the winners
I'm not, but I really detest seeing Verstappen (and more importantly, Horner) winning 😂
Worth watching for the alonso/hamilton scrap if nothing else!
True....I hear Alonso was saying nice things about their tussle this morning...bit of a a change of tune from last year!
thols2
This. The cars have only run on one circuit, one which puts heavy load on the rear tyres. The Mercs and Ferraris had to nurse their rear tyres, the Red Bulls and Aston Martins didn’t. Other circuits will require different car characteristics. Red Bull clearly have a very good car, but Bahrain almost certainly exaggerated their advantage.
True enough but i get the feeling they had probably a second or more in the bag if they'd needed it.
They seemed to have less deg on the soft than other teams had on the hard!
True enough but i get the feeling they had probably a second or more in the bag if they’d needed it.
This. If you look at the fastest laps, the Red Bulls were over two seconds off the top, with near-identical times between the two cars. This from a car that was fast enough to qualify 1-2. That’s several signs of a very comfortable race for them.
The problem I have with it is not that one team is dominant, but that the dominant team is one who you know will only be backing one driver. It was the Schumacher/Ferrari years that stopped me watching F1 for a few years in the mid 2000s for that reason, until there was some hype about some new British hot tip which meant I turned in at the start of 2007… At least when McLaren and Mercedes and Williams have been dominant they’ve mostly let their drivers fight and some of those dominant years have been classics.
It’s a shame I don’t like Alonso, otherwise I’d have felt much more enthused by Aston’s performance. As it was I was largely just disappointed by McLaren and Mercedes. To the point where I’d think that Norris will be looking for (or poached for) another seat quite soon, and if Mercedes’ supposed upgrades don’t instantly catapult them into regular podiums then we’re very quickly going to see a lot of questions about Hamilton’s potential retirement.
The RB is disadvantaged at the Sakhir circuit much less than nearly every other car. There’s an extreme here that happens almost nowhere else I can think of. Things will be much different at every other race.
there’s obviously a problem with extracting predictions of performance from a circuit that flatters the RB while at the same time reveals an issue (rear tyre wear) with other cars that isn’t going to be as bad from now on
Is that true? Last year the Red Bulls qualified second and fourth and in the race Mercedes finished surprisingly well (obviously assisted by RB’s double DNF, but their gap to the winner was a tenth of what it was this year) yet Red Bull dominated the season and Mercedes were completely adrift until Silverstone. I agree that one circuit is a poor predictor (and it’s annoying that they now use the first circuit of the season for testing) but I’m not sure it’s necessarily obvious what it’s predicting poorly. But there are plenty of people here more familiar with the numbers than I am…
Yeah the RB is clearly a really really good car, they’ve managed that by creating “enough” down force over “most” of the circuits. Ferrari and Mercedes can’t produce that overall level of down force so they aim to take advantage in places where the “averagely good” RB hasn’t got either the peak downforce that the Ferrari can on the straight or in the medium/slow speed corners where the Merc is a bit better.
Sahkir shows off the very best of the RB while at the same time the very worst of the Ferrari and Merc.
the RB/ Verstappen combo is still going to be ridiculously hard to beat though, agreed.
It’s a shame I don’t like Alonso, otherwise I’d have felt much more enthused by Aston’s performance.
There's a separate thread for that.
https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/separating-the-art-from-the-artist/
I do wonder if McLaren are saving their budget for next years car. This years looks underdeveloped and they've only just got their new wind tunnel up and running. So makes sense to use the new tools on the 2024 car.
But then they have talks with Red Bull about a Ford engine supply, which smacks of a lack of ambition - while Honda are sat there with a race-winning engine and no-one to use it! 🤷♂️
Mark Hughes has an explanation of why Red Bull were so dominant (beyond just having a very good car).
I do wonder if McLaren are saving their budget for next years car. This years looks underdeveloped and they’ve only just got their new wind tunnel up and running. So makes sense to use the new tools on the 2024 car.
But then they have talks with Red Bull about a Ford engine supply, which smacks of a lack of ambition – while Honda are sat there with a race-winning engine and no-one to use it!
I thought they said they just messed up the aero and have too much drag/not enough downforce, but are going to bring a big upgrade in a few races.
Honda won't have a race-winning engine in 2026, they may not have any engine. The engines will all have to be redesigned from scratch for the new rules, they can't just bolt their current engine in. At this stage, every team will be talking to Honda and Ford (and the other engine manufacturers) as a routine thing just to get a picture of what might be available. The headlines about being in talks are probably true, but they don't really mean much.
There’s a separate thread for that.
Oh, now I feel like I have to Google to find out what several people’s toxic characteristics are. (Not that my own tastes have a huge overlap with the names on that thread…)
Anyway, for me it’s simple when it comes to sport: anything that comes under foul play gets someone marked down in my book. Schumacher and Alonso both firmly qualify. With Verstappen it’s hard to tell; he’s probably more tainted in my eyes by his father and his team, although his arrogance became tiresome after a while before his bad Monaco weekend forced him to get a grip. In his first season or two I really loved his on-track performance so it was a shame it gradually became obscured by other things.
It’s a shame I don’t like Alonso
Like him or loathe him he's a hell of a racer. More likeable than Verstappen too.
Like him or loathe him he’s a hell of a racer.
Yup, there’s no disputing that. Lots of times when he’s dragged an underperforming car to an impressive result, and the only teammate he didn’t trounce was the one who now has 7 titles.
If he can rob Red Bull of some wins I might warm to him 😉
I think much of Verstappen’s arrogance - for a given value over baseline racing driver standard. is down to him being from the Netherlands
I’ve met a few and they can come across like that to Brits as they don’t have the same brain-mouth filters that we do.
Was deflated after seeing the RB sail off into the distance and frankly Max could have driven around one arm out the car and pulled in for a coffee and still won.
However...
Pinning hope on the 'only 46.6% of winners of the first race go on to win the championship' stat.
Nothing against Max, but I woud love the see that smug look wiped of Horners face.
Can somebody explain to me why on earth Mercedes have turned up with such an uncompetitive car which they clearly knew was uncompetitive and were already talking about changes before the Championship started (with the sidepods specifically)? After last season surely they should have gone back to the drawing board and taken the same approach most other teams have proven is the correct approach? Surely constructors should be geared up with having what they believe is the most competitive car for the start of the season, not a few races in?
Can somebody explain to me why on earth Mercedes have turned up with such an uncompetitive car which they clearly knew was uncompetitive
Don't know - it's baffling. According to Wolff they hit their performance targets for the new car, it's just that the Red Bull has gone further away than expected. They are there or there abouts with Ferrari and Aston though. And we can't say Aston are really in the mix based on one race.
Seems Plan B was always in the works - It'll just be bought forward.
Bez
Anyway, for me it’s simple when it comes to sport: anything that comes under foul play gets someone marked down in my book. Schumacher and Alonso both firmly qualify. With Verstappen it’s hard to tell; he’s probably more tainted in my eyes by his father and his team, although his arrogance became tiresome after a while before his bad Monaco weekend forced him to get a grip. In his first season or two I really loved his on-track performance so it was a shame it gradually became obscured by other things.
What????
Verstappen has been barging people off the track since he got into F1 - 90% of his overtakes were DRS assisted block passes that ran the car in front off the track.
I won't say he's not a great driver as his car control is 2nd to none but he's cynical and a habitual cheat in my eyes.
Verstappen has been barging people off the track since he got into F1 – 90% of his overtakes were DRS assisted block passes that ran the car in front off the track.
My recollection of his early races was that he did what Senna did: he positioned his car such that the other driver had the option of ceding the place or coming together. That’s not the same as being the one who takes the decision to come together, or barging people off the track. It’s a fine line but I recall seeing Verstappen’s passing as always just about staying the right side of that line: ballsy and aggressive and eye-opening, but not in itself dangerous. I don’t recall the specific examples, I just recall my impression of his driving style. His defending on the other hand did cross the line and was certainly dangerous. And things have evolved, of course: there were multiple occasions in 2021 for example when he seemed very willing to be the one causing the collision. Maybe looking back at his early races with that hindsight I would see them in a different light, I don’t know.
I watched the C4 high lights last night, the Alonso/Hamilton duel was the high point.
A few good moves further down the field, but watching Max cruise off was disappointing.
Was never a huge Alonso fan - especially after crash-gate etc., but I'm liking Alonso 2.0 after his break from F1 - seems more fired up than previous years.
Thought Haas might have been in the mix a bit more after Hulks qualy, but their race pace isn't there
the-muffin-man
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I do wonder if McLaren are saving their budget for next years car. This years looks underdeveloped and they’ve only just got their new wind tunnel up and running. So makes sense to use the new tools on the 2024 car.
According to The Race podcast, they realised during the development phase of this years car that they'd cocked up & gone the wrong way. They developed that concept enough to bring a car to the launch and for the first few races, but then switched tact & started working on what they believe is a much better direction.
So, until that 'upgrade' is ready they are having to put up with a car that was basically a flawed design, with limited development done on it.
Will be interesting to see if there is a noticeable jump once the car is upgraded as intended.
johndoh
Free MemberCan somebody explain to me why on earth Mercedes have turned up with such an uncompetitive car which they clearly knew was uncompetitive and were already talking about changes before the Championship started (with the sidepods specifically)? After last season surely they should have gone back to the drawing board and taken the same approach most other teams have proven is the correct approach? Surely constructors should be geared up with having what they believe is the most competitive car for the start of the season, not a few races in?
I think they thought the problems/setup compromises caused by bouncing were ruining their performance and the concept was fundamentally still good, but actually there were other issues.
A bit like how Mclaren blamed the honda engine for all their problems, then it turned out the chassis was also a turd.
@Bez - My recollection is less charitable. To my eye he was using DRS to close from an unrealistically long way back and brake at a point where he couldn't conventionally make the corner. He was only able to do so by braking way past the apex and blocking the corner. It no doubt takes a considerable amount of skill to do but he was coming from so far back that the car in front hadn't covered the inside and at their turn in point he appears from nowhere still travelling 20-50mph faster. You can tell they've not expected it because they all have to back out having already initiated a turn in then gone "oh sh**!". It's not an overtake it's an ambush.
It was only possible because of DRS and because he's a colossal ****
Surely constructors should be geared up with having what they believe is the most competitive car for the start of the season, not a few races in?
They have hit the targets they aimed for, they just found out at testing that RedBull had moved a lot further ahead than they were expecting.
Bahrain is an outlier circuit, but RedBull were only pushing for the first 25% of the race to get a gap and then it was a cruise to the finish. We're not likely to get a true reflection of performance until R8 in Spain when we're back to "normal" European circuits.
Ferrari & Merc need to concerned by the pace of the Aston.
We saw yesterday it can be up there fighting for podiums.
And whilst Alonso's podium was great, Stroll was only 16 seconds behind and is not fully fit, which shows the cars underlying performance.
To my eye he was using DRS to close from an unrealistically long way back and brake at a point where he couldn’t conventionally make the corner. It was only possible because of DRS and because he’s a colossal ****
To my mind that’s using the tools available to get the job done. You’re not going to overtake by staying on the racing line and you’re not going to overtake the best circuit drivers in the world—or indeed anyone—by hanging back and letting them turn in first. The fact that DRS amplified any speed differential is not his fault: that’s what it was designed to do. He set out his stall from day one: leave any gap and he’ll find a way into it. I can see why some might see it as a bit too much, but frankly I thought it was a breath of fresh air.
Chew
They have hit the targets they aimed for, they just found out at testing that RedBull had moved a lot further ahead than they were expecting.
Bahrain is an outlier circuit, but RedBull were only pushing for the first 25% of the race to get a gap and then it was a cruise to the finish. We’re not likely to get a true reflection of performance until R8 in Spain when we’re back to “normal” European circuits.
I wonder what their targets were?
Assuming this chart is correct, they were actually slower than last year in terms of mean race pace
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/11ji780/2023_vs_2022_bahrain_gp_mean_race_pace/
Ferrari also but theirs was largely due to high deg on the hard tyre.
Bez
To my mind that’s using the tools available to get the job done. You’re not going to overtake by staying on the racing line and you’re not going to overtake the best circuit drivers in the world—or indeed anyone—by hanging back and letting them turn in first. The fact that DRS amplified any speed differential is not his fault: that’s what it was designed to do. He set out his stall from day one: leave any gap and he’ll find a way into it. I can see why some might see it as a bit too much, but frankly I thought it was a breath of fresh air.
It's smart racing in a way, it works and he (mostly) didn't get penalised so why stop?
IMO It destroys the racing though. Lewis and Alonso had a great and very enjoyable battle to watch on Sunday.
I think if it had been Max involved, he'd have just braked too deep, pushed the other car wide and that's that.
I wonder what their targets were?
Downforce/Drag etc..
Different track conditions so i'd take the graph with a pinch of salt as to absolute performance year-on-year, but its useful to show who has comparatively improved/gone backwards
(look at Haas)
When the Merc had worse rear deg and the Aston you have to wonder why.
Both cars share the same engine and rear suspension, so it comes back to aero.
Dan Fellows was heavily involved with the '22 RedBull, so it seems like the Aston will be a RedBull aero with a Merc engine?
so it seems like the Aston will be a RedBull aero with a Merc engine?
But the Aston and Red Bull are different. There's those massive ski-slope scallops on the side-pods of the Aston. Big difference in rear diffusers too and other detail differences, so it's not a carbon-copy green Red Bull along the lines of the pink Merc they did a few years back.
Ferrari and Mercedes were both doing heavy tyre management. I'd wager Mercedes pace is better than has been shown so far, but that RB are even further ahead than has thus far been shown.
Is it me or do C4 have fuller highlights again...didn't they only have about 15 mins of actual racing before?
(Mark Webber is still as thick as the back of an axe tho 😂)
(Mark Webber is still as thick as the back of an axe tho 😂)
Would that be the same Mark Webber who got Oscar Pistorius into this year's McLaren rather than staying at Alpine? Haha 😂😂😂
Seems like a (pre-2023!) Alonso-level career move...
Seems like a (pre-2023!) Alonso-level career move…
When the deal was done there wasn’t a 2023 race seat for Piastri, so another year sat in the garage loomed. And I didn’t see a stellar Alpine performance this weekend either.
And I didn’t see a stellar Alpine performance this weekend either
There must be a prize for most penalties, surely?!
We don’t know that either car is any good. McLaren had two wounded birds and Alpine started from the back and had…issues.
Norris was saying before the race that they knew their performance was going to be bad, and they have a big upgrade coming for Baku.
Yeah - I read this a short while ago...
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how-a-15mm-difference-triggered-mclarens-f1-2023-woes/10440908/
I missed this while trying to stay awake watching the race - but some crafty tactics from Alfa!... 🙂
https://www.racefans.net/2023/03/07/alfa-romeos-fastest-lap-bid-with-zhou-was-targeted-at-alpine/
I've gained a bit of respect for Lance reading this:
(click to zoom)
multi21
Free Member
I’ve gained a bit of respect for Lance reading this:
I always wonder about the long-term consequences of returning to sport so soon after an injury, I read an article a year or two ago which indicated that, in the short to medium term at least, the consequences are pretty minimal
Norris was saying before the race that they knew their performance was going to be bad, and they have a big upgrade coming for Baku.
That's 5 races in tho, brutal!!
multi21
Free Member
....and they have a big upgrade coming for Baku.
And so does just about every other team!
multi21
Free Member
....and they have a big upgrade coming for Baku.
And so does just about every other team!
Doh, duplicate post due to gremlins...
https://twitter.com/FastestPitStop/status/1635885001282580481?s=20
Uh oh, what's Gene been up to??? 🤔🤔
Oooops - not a good look when you sacked-off your Russian backers. Perhaps Gene is keeping things sweet for when the war is over. 😬
Got to be verified of course.
I'm guessing that Haas will try to pull a plausible deniability defense. They were supplying equipment to their Russian agent, the Russian agent supplied it to sanctioned military manufacturers without Haas knowing about it or even being suspicious. It would be ironic if Haas ended up having to sell the F1 team over this and Andretti bought it at a fire-sale price. Unlikely, but not impossible.
It'll be strange not seeing Angela (and her pony tail) by Lewis's side. Shame Lewis is getting so much hate over this on ****ter...
https://www.racefans.net/2023/03/17/hamilton-confirms-split-from-trainer-cullen-after-seven-years/
the-muffin-man
It’ll be strange not seeing Angela (and her pony tail) by Lewis’s side. Shame Lewis is getting so much hate over this on ****ter…
I don't do twitter. Why's he getting hate over this?
You are right it will be very strange not seeing Angela at the races. I wonder if this will affect his performance/form.
I don’t do twitter. Why’s he getting hate over this?
The Lewis haters are basically saying he's not had a good start to the year so has just dumped her in a strop. In a less polite way though.
Who are these clowns on the Radio 5 coverage!? Did they give them a beginners guide to F1 before going on air. 🙂
Both Ferraris to take new engines.
2nd race...
nickc
Full MemberBoth Ferraris to take new engines.
2nd race…
is this a joke ? i can't tell with ferrari any more
People keep commenting on how Mercedes have made no improvement, but their car qualified over 1.3seconds fast in Bahrain than last year and over the race distance they were over 5 mins faster. Yes RB were almost the same distance away as last year in qualifying, but in race pace it’s better even with the tyre degradation.
On a tangent - anyone else excited for WEC this season? They are sounding and looking fantastic...
Bring back Binotto. The new guy's terrible.
Still, it will be great to see Ferrari, Williams, and McLaren battling it out on track just like 30 years ago.
Still, it will be great to see Ferrari, Williams, and McLaren battling it out on track just like 30 years ago.
Oooh, harsh...
There are some angry team bosses in the pitlane this season!...
https://the-race.com/formula-1/tost-doesnt-trust-alphatauri-engineers-car-claims-anymore/
People keep commenting on how Mercedes have made no improvement, but their car qualified over 1.3seconds fast in Bahrain than last year and over the race distance they were over 5 mins faster. Yes RB were almost the same distance away as last year in qualifying, but in race pace it’s better even with the tyre degradation
It’s all about relative pace though. I’m sure The Race will have an article covering it shortly (if they don’t already)
On a tangent – anyone else excited for WEC this season? They are sounding and looking fantastic…
Yes! its an aquired taste WEC due to the length of the races but I far prefer it to F1. With the Hypercar class starting to take off the next few years should be very good once the new teams get a grip on things rather than expecting Toyota to win,
Andrew Benson on BBC is incredibly pessimistic about anyone's chances of catching Red Bull this season (or next season.....or the one after that)