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He made a lot of drivers look like amateurs there.

How did he do that?

bwoah, I did some overtake”

Clearly I don't understand motor racing. I thought overtaking was a good thing.


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 6:32 pm
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Alfa obviously liked it, they are sticking with Kimi and Giovonazzi for 2021.


 
Posted : 30/10/2020 1:57 pm
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which IMHO demonstrates Alfa's complete lack of ambition


 
Posted : 30/10/2020 3:13 pm
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At least Williams have confirmed Russell and Latifi - bad day for Perez tho


 
Posted : 30/10/2020 3:20 pm
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bad day for Perez Hulkenberg tho

Rumours are that Red Bull see Perez as likely replacement if they decide to ditch Albon. This means that Hulkenberg is almost certainly out.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 12:30 am
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I can't believe giovinazzi is getting another season. I can't think of a time where his name has come up as having had a good day behind the wheel.

Surely Perez/hulkenberg would have been a better option for reliability, or rotate in another Ferrari junior in the hope of getting someone fast and good!  Bonkers.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:23 am
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I can’t believe giovinazzi is getting another season.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:59 am
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So the only seats open for next year are currently occupied by Albon, Kvyat, RoGro and KMag. The ResBull/AT seats are being widely discussed but not much noise about the Haas options. Surely the Hulk has a chance there as a safe pair of hands that won't throw the car at the scenery and will give good feedback to develop the dog they've currently got. If I was Gunther I'd want someone who will reliably deliver what the cars capable of rather than some mercurial talent who might somehow drag it all the way up to 14th place but stands a good chance of getting greedy and throwing it all away.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:58 am
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So the only seats open for next year are currently occupied by Albon, Kvyat, RoGro and KMag.

Don't forget the one at Mercedes 😂


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 9:21 am
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Don’t forget the one at Mercedes

I think that one's even more guaranteed than Boris' U turn lockdown


 
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Posted : 01/11/2020 1:23 pm
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Argh man russell must be gutted, what a time for that to happen


 
Posted : 01/11/2020 1:30 pm
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This has been an ‘interesting race.
Hamilton has obviously sold his soul to the devil.


 
Posted : 01/11/2020 1:30 pm
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FFS Albon 🤭


 
Posted : 01/11/2020 1:37 pm
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carlos the cat!


 
Posted : 01/11/2020 1:39 pm
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Go Honey Badger!


 
Posted : 01/11/2020 1:44 pm
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Posted : 01/11/2020 1:49 pm
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the piece of ferrari which was embedded in bottas' car!

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Posted : 01/11/2020 5:15 pm
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Posted : 01/11/2020 6:07 pm
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Asked about how Wolff’s announcement could impact on Hamilton’s future, he responded: “I don’t even know if I’m going to be here next year so it’s not a concern for me at the moment.

Yeah, right


 
Posted : 01/11/2020 6:11 pm
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I think Russell was really unlucky. Just as he gunned it, there was clearly a bump in the road. You see it pop the car up


 
Posted : 01/11/2020 10:26 pm
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the piece of ferrari which was embedded in bottas’ car!

I guess Ferrari have finally figured out how to make their car go faster 🙂


 
Posted : 01/11/2020 11:46 pm
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cold tyres and a huge amount of power....

I hope the organisers keep these circuits on the calendar rather than some of the crap usually in there because of the host state is paying a fortune to have a gp.


 
Posted : 02/11/2020 10:43 am
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I think Russell was really unlucky. Just as he gunned it, there was clearly a bump in the road. You see it pop the car up
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It's not exactly unheard of. Verstappen binned it on the way to the grid this year, Schumacher's crashed behind the SC (twice i think), Grosjean last year, Hakinnen as well iirc, Vettel crashed into Webber or vice versa in seb's early seasons.

Cold tyres, swerving & giving it gas to try and get some heat in them, below race speed so no downforce. Entirely understandable. But embarrassing and gutting to lose a chance at points when he was genuinely in a position to get them by merit.


 
Posted : 02/11/2020 10:59 am
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I hope the organisers keep these circuits on the calendar rather than some of the crap usually in there because of the host state is paying a fortune to have a gp

Nice to see them back at Imola, but its a tricky circuit to overtake at, I think Mugello and Portimao were better substitute circuits for the current F1 cars. It will be interesting to see what Istanbul is like.


 
Posted : 02/11/2020 11:14 am
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I feel quite sorry for George Russell making an uncharacteristic error like that, but the combination of cold tyres and a safety car have caught out many more experienced drivers over the years.

Albon appears to have royally fluffed it again.


 
Posted : 02/11/2020 12:20 pm
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yeah, surely sealed his fate there. Double whammy as well with Kvyat finishing 4th.


 
Posted : 02/11/2020 12:57 pm
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Nice to see them back at Imola, but its a tricky circuit to overtake at, I think Mugello and Portimao were better substitute circuits for the current F1 cars. It will be interesting to see what Istanbul is like.

Agree to an extent. I guess out of the three italian rounds Monza and Mugello would be favoured.


 
Posted : 02/11/2020 2:03 pm
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Good article on the future of F1, salary caps and the phasing out of wind-tunnels...

https://www.racefans.net/2020/11/04/why-f1-is-talking-wind-tunnel-bans-and-driver-salary-caps-but-not-an-engine-freeze/

...and Red Bull's usual hypocrisy! 🙂


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 3:05 pm
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Good article, thanks.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 3:21 pm
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Seeing as we're talking about the future of F1 and we've just had the announcement that they're going to Saudi Arabia, thought this might be of interest:


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 4:58 pm
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F1 is always about following the money. I’m surprised it’s taken this long


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 9:33 pm
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Looks like Vietnam may not make it on to the calendar at any point now...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/54879815


 
Posted : 09/11/2020 11:04 pm
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Sad that the rich motorsport heritage of Vietnam won't be rewarded with an F1 race. Oh hang on...

Anyhow, 2021 calendar announced - expect it was far too late to consider incorporating any of the enforced learnings from this year's guest circuits and my guess is that there won't be any consideration of them when it comes to '22 and beyond.

Australian GP - March 21
Bahrain GP - March 28
Chinese GP - April 11
TBC - April 25
Spanish GP - May 9
Monaco GP - May 23
Azerbaijan GP - June 6
Canadian GP - June 13
French GP - June 27
Austrian GP - July 4
British GP - July 18
Hungarian GP - August 1
Belgian GP - August 29
Dutch GP - September 5
Italian GP - September 12
Russian GP - September 26
Singapore GP - October 3
Japanese GP - October 10
United States GP - October 24
Mexican GP - October 31
Brazilian GP - November 14
Saudi Arabia GP - November 28
Abu Dhabi GP - December 5


 
Posted : 10/11/2020 10:31 am
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Blimey quali in Turkey is terrifying. A slippy track with rain on it. Looks horrific out there.


 
Posted : 14/11/2020 12:06 pm
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https://twitter.com/F1/status/1327610131752816645


 
Posted : 14/11/2020 1:53 pm
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Possibly not for long...he's under investigation for going too fast under yellow flags (in q1 I assume)


 
Posted : 14/11/2020 3:10 pm
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That was chaos. Hope tomorrow allows them to race


 
Posted : 14/11/2020 7:42 pm
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Why wait until just a couple of weeks before the event to lay a new track?


 
Posted : 14/11/2020 8:39 pm
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The original surface failed inspection is what some have said. Just needed a few repairs done but they went with a full repave. Don't forget the track has had very little use since the last time F1 was there.


 
Posted : 14/11/2020 9:22 pm
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I am so looking forward to the first few laps. Sadly have to go out a bit before 10:30 but I'll catch the rest later.


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 9:56 am
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I'm going to listen to the start then go windsurfing....cold!


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 9:59 am
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Didn't realise it was on so early, cheers for the heads up!


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 10:02 am
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First lap is going to be mental.

https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/status/1327915386537447431


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 10:05 am
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This is nuts!


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 10:17 am
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DRS has spoiled this for me. They should have left it off.


 
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Posted : 15/11/2020 11:56 am
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Hamilton and stroll has made the race today. A real drivers race!


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 11:56 am
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absolute masterclass!


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 11:57 am
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look at those tyres!!!!!!!!!!!!


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 12:00 pm
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what a last lap.. all deserved podium places. Could all three be at new destinations next year


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 12:01 pm
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Great drive by Hamilton deserves everything he has got why is he not a Sir.


 
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why is he not a Sir.

His tax arrangements. Plus I suspect he might turn one down, if offered.


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 12:10 pm
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What a race! Can't believe i found myself cheering for seb to get a podium at the end there 😁


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 12:46 pm
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lewis is on course to win the constructors championship. 😀


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 12:47 pm
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Simply amazing! Well done Lewis. A thoroughly well deserved race win and 7th drivers title. What a drive!


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 12:54 pm
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I'm going to predict Verstappen will never be a World Champion - he just isn't learning to have patience. He's fast and exciting but too hot headed even after all these years in F1. As Lewis showed today sometimes you have to let the race come to you.


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 1:02 pm
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Damn that was an impressive race and a great podium.
Please someone sign Perez for next year.


 
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What a legend. How can anyone have any doubts about Hamilton? Awesome. And also, massive respect to him for his work for BLM etc. Someone any kid can look up to and try and learn from.


 
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I’m going to predict Verstappen will never be a World Champion – he just isn’t learning to have patience. He’s fast and exciting but too hot headed even after all these years in F1.

He makes my teeth itch, I used to really rate him before he disappeared up his own arse. The same goes the orange army/Horner/Marko.

Great race today, as mentioned earlier I never thought I’d be so happy to see Seb get a podium. I read somewhere Binotto wasn’t there today, don’t know if it’s true or not but apparently Ferrari have scored more points this season when he’s not there?

Masterclass from Hamilton, nervy last few laps with the threat of rain. So glad he won the championship the way he did today.


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 6:51 pm
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I accidentally caught the result just before watching the highlights and by the end of the first lap I was genuinely on the edge of my seat knowing that it was going to be a good one! So much fun to watch and a brilliant result for the whole podium.

When Schumacher won 7 titles no-one thought that would be matched for a very long time. Be interesting to see if Lewis does hang around to go for 1 more.


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 6:51 pm
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Plus I suspect he might turn one down, if offered.

Only goes up in my estimation if that's true, Wonderful drive to win a race he had no business winning. What a genius. GOAT indeed.

I’m going to predict Verstappen will never be a World Champion

Agreed, he can't seem to not get over-aggressive, and throw it away


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 7:29 pm
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I’m going to predict Verstappen will never be a World Champion

I'm sure there's quite a few that would like to see the back of Lewis 😀


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 7:48 pm
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I was quite emotional when vettel congratulated him. What a race


 
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I’m going to predict Verstappen will never be a World Champion

Same. I also think there will be major toys out of pram if a Perez or Hulk beats him over a season by being consistent rather than win it or bin it.


 
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he'd be in good company if he doesn't


 
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I was quite emotional when vettel congratulated him.

That was class from SV.


 
Posted : 15/11/2020 9:17 pm
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Before the race I’d have bet on Verstappen pulling out a Brazil 2016 performance and romping off into the distance, even though a freshly laid surface is quite a different proposition. But the in-car footage made his angry right foot very evident. His uncontrolled frustration was the antithesis of Hamilton’s approach, and his was a classy way to take the title. Chapeau—or perhaps rather, casquette rouge.

I must say, though, that I’m irked by the various articles and social media posts that out Hamilton and Schumacher on an equal pedestal. Both utterly dominant in every respect of the sport, both mathematically comparable, but only one of them—among other questionable on-track incidents—twice deliberately drove into his title rival in a championship-deciding race.


 
Posted : 16/11/2020 12:00 am
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I must say, though, that I’m irked by the various articles and social media posts that out Hamilton and Schumacher on an equal pedestal.

History is written by the victors.


 
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That was class from SV

Yes I was thinking that - he's gone up in my estimation.


 
Posted : 16/11/2020 12:05 am
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I’m going to predict Verstappen will never be a World Champion

He's an annoying, arrogant **** at times, but I think he's overdriving the car a bit because it's just not as fast as the Merc. I think that if you put him in the Merc alongside Bottas, he'd cruise to the championship. I agree, his title prospects look slim, but that's more about the Merc dominance than his lack of talent.

I must say, though, that I’m irked by the various articles and social media posts that out Hamilton and Schumacher on an equal pedestal. Both utterly dominant in every respect of the sport, both mathematically comparable, but only one of them—among other questionable on-track incidents—twice deliberately drove into his title rival in a championship-deciding race.

On top of that, I think Hamilton has had much more competitive teammates than Schumacher did. To be fair to Schumacher, he got priority because he was faster than any teammate, but Hamilton raced against Alonso, Button, and Rosberg, who were all World Champions, and always looked first class on the track. Matching Alonso in his rookie year was pretty impressive.


 
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That main difference between Schumacher and Hamilton is Hamilton never punted anyone off to win an attempt to win the championship.


 
Posted : 16/11/2020 7:04 am
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I thought the main difference was that Schumacher left a back-back Championship winning team to go and rebuild Ferrari? Then spent a few seasons getting the Mercedes ready for Lewis.....

Anyway, of course they'll be on the same pedestal - having the same number of championships will do that


 
Posted : 16/11/2020 8:38 am
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We’ll have to wait until next year.  I can see Lewis conundrum; he’s done it all, but will never be the top dog until he gets that 8th Championship.  Next years schedule should it go ahead looks tiring - bear in mind all the travel etc - and he’s starting to get on a bit notwistanding the change in the cars for 2022.

Do you bow out now as Schumacher’s equal or risk failing that 8th Championship and then effectively being old/not in the same competitive equipment?      I think he has to go for it next year, but that’ll be the final year.


 
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