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watching and listening to various programmes discussing the current weather and whether it is a product of “global warming” etc.....
way back in the ‘50s onwards when I was a kid winter started around November, this weeks weather was “normal”
Back when I were a lad growing up people starting threads on internet forums generally checked to see if what they were posting wasn't already the subject of a thread on the front page. And if the thought they were expressing was pretty much identical to an existing thread, nevermind 6 or maybe 7 running threads you'd just be content to make your comment.
Aye, times were hard in them 56k dial up days. We didn't have any new fangled superfast broadband or fibre optic whizzadoos. Opening a thread took forever (much like STW) so to find that the thread you'd just spent the last five minutes waiting to open was exactly the same as another thread was painful. And annoying.
Of course these days it's all different, everyone's got their own personal weather thread, their own brexit thread, their own "should I buy a diesel" thread and so on. I remember cramming into the art college library, three of us to a computer, all vying to see who could think of the best way to tell a yank to **** off on a message board.
Them were the days.
You know people have studied and recorded weather events meticulously for a hundred years or more, right? And the data is available? You don't have to rely on people's reminiscences.
In fact, there is a whole area of science devoted to studying this very topic. So why not listen to them?
Looks out window.....
Extreme enough that roughly 50% of all threads on page 1 of stw are in some way snow-related.
jimjam
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Back when I were a lad growing up people starting threads on internet forums generally checked to see if what they were posting wasn’t already the subject of a thread on the front page. And if the thought they were expressing was pretty much identical to an existing thread, nevermind 6 or maybe 7 running threads you’d just be content to make your comment.Aye, times were hard in them 56k dial up days. We didn’t have any new fangled superfast broadband or fibre optic whizzadoos. Opening a thread took forever (much like STW) so to find that the thread you’d just spent the last five minutes waiting to open was exactly the same as another thread was painful. And annoying.
Of course these days it’s all different, everyone’s got their own personal weather thread, their own brexit thread, their own “should I buy a diesel” thread and so on. I remember cramming into the art college library, three of us to a computer, all vying to see who could think of the best way to tell a yank to **** off on a message board.
... and spends 15 mins replying!
It's not the 1st time we've had a cold spell in winter..
You know people have studied and recorded weather events meticulously for a hundred years or more, right? And the data is available? You don’t have to rely on people’s reminiscences.
In fact, there is a whole area of science devoted to studying this very topic. So why not listen to them?
Mostly because most of the sources are mainly just repeating dumbed down crap... and weather is a poster child for most people wanting dumbed down crap.
I've got multiple ways to see weather predictions but 90% of them just want to show me a nice icon... the met office has a good webpage but it's buried... and the default view doesn't even open up the precipitation risk. (Which is what I'm mainly after most of the time)
It's hardly the met office's fault... people want nice icons... they don't want to have to work out if they should take an umbrella or not... they want telling.
Even when they get a meteorologist (selected not for their technical/scientific prowess but their in front of camera performance) this gets dumbed down.
Just my 2c... (not disagreeing) I'm just answering your question 😀
@jimjam – is that a saucer of milk to go?
… and spends 15 mins replying!
Well you see a terse and pointed attack on Trekster's effort would have been too easy and just the opposite of what I wanted to achieve. Controling duplicate threads is a job for the mods and it's been made clear to me that thread drift and conversational tangents are truly the richest seam of humour to be mined in the otherwise barren dirt of STW.
The deliberately protracted and meandering reply was an effort to say something critical but also soften the blow with humour. The length of the post was intended to be representative of someone of advanced years lost in thought, I could have really gone on quite a bit more, I doubt it took 15 minutes. You might also chalk it up to boredom and the fact that thread turnover is so slow I was posting in an effort to skew another weather thread into something which was potentially more interesting.
they don’t want to have to work out if they should take an umbrella or not… they want telling.
Yup. That makes perfect sense to me.
Why would I want that information any complicated than it needs to be.
I like the icons. Anything else gives a sense of certainty that is false. I miss the isobars though. But don’t get me started on titling the weather map
Why would I want that information any complicated than it needs to be.
The depends on "needs to be" ...
I prefer to make an informed judgement ... I might look at the weekend and decide it's worth driving to finish at 10am when the chance of rain drops from 80% to 20% ... rather than turn up at 9 and get soaked before I start then be wet after its stopped or I might just go in the other direction because it's less likely to rain.
The met office predictions are astoundingly accurate in detail and broken into hours but the icon's mean next to nothing ...
What criteria is "rain" or "snow" ? Is that for a day, week or hour?
Non of that helps me for example plan to be in a cafe for an hour when it's most likely to chuck it down.
At the other end someone could do an app... where you put in lots of complicated detail and it selects which bike and tyres to take + where to go and what to wear...
I'm not entirely convinced that is less complicated though.
I like the icons. Anything else gives a sense of certainty that is false.
How is a percentage risk a sense of certainty?
Sunny. A bit sunny. Cloudy. A bit rainy. Rainy. Changeable.
thats all you need in day to day life.
snow, thunder and wind brought out for special occasions.
Sunny. A bit sunny. Cloudy. A bit rainy. Rainy. Changeable.
thats all you need in day to day life.
This is the UK ... surely the "changeable" would cover most?
thats all you need in day to day life.
Quite possibly ... mostly people are not going to die just be uncomfortable. Mostly we don't "need" weather, we can just take extra clothes everywhere and I can drive 2 hours to find my tyres are not suitable and drive home. No-one dies... so its not strictly need.
but for me this makes a pretty big difference to what I do when.
way back in the ‘50s onwards when I was a kid winter started around November,
and when it snowed, covered what 'round 'ere were all fields, lad.