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I’ve come into the office today as they have aircon, and my house doesnt…

Working for me, though many colleagues come in by train and are suffering at home. Management being pragmatic about attendance and productivity.

Daughter has two hours of gymnastics training tonight, suspect she may decide not to go.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:01 pm
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My bedroom is in the loft. The door is staying closed!


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:04 pm
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31 here in Sheffield. Just been out to buy some glass, roads nice and quiet, can I work up the energy/enthusiasm to fit it though? Need to swim in beer (er rehydrate) later.
Read that conversation about women and windows and thought 'how strange' and have now just had that exact-same conversation, 'I need oxygen'. She's just tested symptom-less CV positive so I'll agree to anything.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:05 pm
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Peak temperature in the great heatwave of 1976 was 35.9C - looks like many places will beat that today


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:06 pm
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Thermometer in my back garden is claiming 34-35 in the shade currently (seems a tad high, but still...). Fierce in the sunshine, tried a bit of DIY but beat a hasty retreat indoors.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:10 pm
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Getting a bit hot behind the knees in Warwick.

As euphemisms go, it is a bit too obvious IMO.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:11 pm
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34 on my Garmin in the shade at my house in Cardiff, but it doesn't feel that bad at all - not as hot as other hot places I've been at that temperature. I think that's because the sun is nowhere near as strong as it is in southern France or Utah.

Considering going for a ride. I may just wear lycra all round with my sleeveless top, rather than bothering with baggies.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:12 pm
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Keeping curtains closed makes a big difference at preventing the room heating up in the first place, I've got white blinds with curtains behind and are working really well.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:19 pm
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Heard a tip on the radio for homeworkers: open your loft door. Last summer there was a wasps nest in mine so this will be a surgical procedure.

I have my entire ceiling open to the loft in my utility room (shares a roof with the attached garage) due to renovation work. It is hotter in there than the rest of the house when you walk into it. Both lofts have all 4 sides with decent ventilation.

Currently 31 here and 25 in the bedrooms and 23 downstairs. I managed to get the bedrooms down to 22.5 this morning with windows opened when it was coolest. I expect it may be unpleasant tonight but fine at the moment. Yesterday the house was at 22 for most of the day and then went up a few degrees in the evening. The insulation helps a lot until it doesn't and you need cooler air flow which is obviously a waiting game until outside cools down enough.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:22 pm
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All curtains closed on the sun side, loft door open. Tempted to go outside for lunch time walk but I don't see anyone else and don't fancy being a smouldering mound of burning flesh.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:24 pm
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Heard a tip on the radio for homeworkers: open your loft door. Last summer there was a wasps nest in mine so this will be a surgical procedure.

??? Inside the loft will be the hottest place in my house. the 20cm of loft insulation will be doing a good job of stopping the heat transferring to the rest of the house


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:28 pm
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I have a portable LG Ac I brought back from the Middle East. Used it in the dry spell summer 2018 which felt a bit more roasty. Not too bad up here in Stirling right now. Nice to have some sun. House about 22 inside. Will see if the AC comes out tomorrow but I doubt it.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:34 pm
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I am getting confused about the messages coming from Northern Rail - for tomorrow they are saying 'do not travel' (as opposed to 'don't travel unless you have to') however they are still operating some services. Surely if we must not travel there shouldn't be any trains running? Personally I'd rather get a train and sit in my air conditioned office all day rather than struggle to keep cool enough all day working from home.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:35 pm
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Aircon on upstairs to keep upper floors cool - portable unit with the pipe sticking out the bathroom window. It's generally enough to keep the bedrooms cool - two are south facing ! The sun is now creeping round the back of the house onto the conservatory where I'm working. I probably only have a couple of hours where I can tolerate the heat, before bailing - working through lunch instead.

Office tomorrow, but not so sure I want to replace the pannier rack that snapped on Thursday - especially in the heat - will see how hot it is this afternoon, and decide if cycle commuting is wise tomorrow - cool ride in, but very hot back.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:37 pm
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39.8 on my garden thermometer in Essex. How accurate I don't know but it's pretty ghastly out there


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:38 pm
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30 in the office which is fine with a few fans on and light clothing. Would be horrible if it was humid.

A lass just came in to work and started closing windows! No!!!!


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:41 pm
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According to my weather app the temp in Newcastle now is 30c (noon) My room temp is 24c. Still 4c less than the average (34c) of my hometown in N.Borneo where I would stand under the sun midday fishing ... like a fool with my friends. We seldom get sunburn (very) and hardly heard of heatstroke at all. We get very tan very quickly under the sun and I suppose that's the way we cope with the sun.

To cool down we drink plenty of coconut water and watermelon.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:50 pm
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Posted : 18/07/2022 12:51 pm
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I am getting confused about the messages coming from Northern Rail – for tomorrow they are saying ‘do not travel’ (as opposed to ‘don’t travel unless you have to’) however they are still operating some services. Surely if we must not travel there shouldn’t be any trains running?

Because someone still needs to be paid and they need to prove they didn't cancel it - the weather did it....


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:53 pm
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A lass just came in to work and started closing windows! No!!!

Now is a good time to close them tbh


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:53 pm
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A lass just came in to work and started closing windows! No!!!

If the office has air condition that's fine otherwise that's silly because the room will get very stuffy very quickly.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 12:58 pm
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Aircon has been turned back on, despite the protestations of the coat wearers. 32deg outside


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:00 pm
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I opened the windows first thing and even the coldest room in the house is now a balmy 28. Remainder of downstairs is ~26. Upstairs (in the roof) it’s about 32. I think sleeping downstairs today might be the plan.

So ……. Did I make a mistake opening the windows or not closing them soon enough?


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:23 pm
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34 @ 1.00 here pretty fricking warm in the back garden!


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:23 pm
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I am getting confused about the messages coming from Northern Rail – for tomorrow they are saying ‘do not travel’ (as opposed to ‘don’t travel unless you have to’) however they are still operating some services. Surely if we must not travel there shouldn’t be any trains running? Personally I’d rather get a train and sit in my air conditioned office all day rather than struggle to keep cool enough all day working from home.

Because some people might have personal emergencies to attend to, or hospital workers might need to get to work, etc. SO might need to use the train, if there's a suitable one running, that is.

Everyone else should avoid travel if possible, especially on rail, strikes, buckled tracks and trains will be doing much lower speeds.

It's not rocket surgery, unless you want to get yourself into a tizzy over semantics.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:27 pm
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Local weather station is showing 32.7°c, the record in Scotland is 32.9°c I think I read.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:28 pm
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unless you want to get yourself into a tizzy over semantics.

This is STW. You've been here a while...you know what happens next 😀


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:29 pm
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I suggested opening the loft hatch but my wife won't let me in case "spiders come down". If there are spiders that are so big they need the loft hatch opening to travel downstairs then I'm moving out anyway


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:30 pm
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In the part of Spain I live it's regulary 40c each day now and seems to be going on and on. Already in May we had extreme 43c+ weather and unseasonable highs for over a week. June was also ridiculously hot too. Normally, May and June are very fine and lovely weather. After being in southern in-land Spain for the past few months, anything below 35 feels refreshing to me. Although humidity feels higher here, although not by much.

Geniunely concerned now; what are European summers going to be like in 2050, nevermind N.Afirca or the Middle East!


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:33 pm
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34° in Rowsley (Derbyshire Dales). It's grand sat outside the Grouse and Claret with an Estrella

My local does frozen glasses, a few Rattlers may be consumed later


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:34 pm
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PSA ice spike winter tyres reduced by 71%

That's a tip that TheArtist might well appreciate.

I can imagine that they might be the sort of tyres that he would like to use all year round.

Though he's probably too busy sunbathing right now to keep up with the thread.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:36 pm
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I suggested opening the loft hatch but my wife won’t let me in case “spiders come down”.

sort of thing my wife would say...


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:37 pm
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room thermostat showing 26 deg in my upstairs home office/bedroom. I have a fan on blowing over a big bowl of iced water.

popped into work for 20 mins earlier on, they have no air con, windows open, flat roof, old building. it's going to get warm in there.

this is north Glasgow, so it'll be a bit toasty south.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:41 pm
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Heard a tip on the radio for homeworkers: open your loft door. Last summer there was a wasps nest in mine so this will be a surgical procedure.

??? Inside the loft will be the hottest place in my house. the 20cm of loft insulation will be doing a good job of stopping the heat transferring to the rest of the house

I wondered about this too. Our loft space gets absolutely boiling in warm weather.
I guess the idea is to let the heat out of the house like a chimney, but I think in our house it would actually end up making the upstairs even hotter.

Sat outside eating my lunch in the shade and it was bloomin' hot. Google reckons 34deg. C outside.
The house is much cooler; 25 downstairs 27.5 upstairs.
Debating taking my laptop downstairs in a bit, although it's not too bad at the mo.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:42 pm
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On a positive and practical note can I just say what a great day it is for doing the laundry?


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:47 pm
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Still only high 20s in my garden (in Stirling):

29.1C to be precise.
https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/ISTIRLIN11

Exciting stuff.....


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:49 pm
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29 degrees in my little hospital room.

Not great but tolerable.


 
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I guess the idea is to let the heat out of the house like a chimney,

That only works if the loft is well ventilated so the hot air can be drawn up through the house and out of the loft, which isn't the case for a lot of the UKs housing stock.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:50 pm
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On a positive and practical note can I just say what a great day it is for doing the laundry?

Every Cloud!

We smashed the laundry at the weekend & got some of the carpets cleaned with one of those Vax carpet cleaner jobbies. It leaves the carpet quite damp, but dried super-quick with the temps in the house 🙂


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:51 pm
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In the part of Spain I live it’s regulary 40c each day now and seems to be going on and on. Already in May we had extreme 43c+ weather and unseasonable highs for over a week. June was also ridiculously hot too. Normally, May and June are very fine and lovely weather. After being in southern in-land Spain for the past few months, anything below 35 feels refreshing to me. Although humidity feels higher here, although not by much.

Geniunely concerned now; what are European summers going to be like in 2050, nevermind N.Afirca or the Middle East!

I does make me wonder how it will go, The spanish are kinda used to these temps for short periods, and so are far more sensible about limiting thier exposure when the sun is highest in the sky, the british, maybe not so much; 'it's just like being on holiday!'
Also our infrastructure isn't designed for these temps, see buckled rail tracks and melting roads, materials are chosen to operate within certain tollerances.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:52 pm
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Walked to the shops to get lunch (and other needed food). Currently 31/32 here according to the internet.

Perfectly pleasant in shorts, tshirt, flip flops and hat.

But I feel for anyone labouring outdoors all day, or forced to work in some sort of weather innapropriate dress code.

Of course that's just my tipping point. Other people may be lower.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:52 pm
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Update from the Red Zone


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:56 pm
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It's just hit 41 here in Cognac.

So I've only experienced one degree hotter in Vegas.

Death Valley showing 48+!

40 degrees is where it starts to make you want to get inside.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:57 pm
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That only works if the loft is well ventilated so the hot air can be drawn up through the house and out of the loft, which isn’t the case for a lot of the UKs housing stock.
yes we have a chalet-bungalow, the bedroom upstairs gets absolutely roasting! I guess a couple of those Velux roof windows is probably the best solution.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:58 pm
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37°c in the shade at the back of the house. Holding quite nicely at 26-27 inside the house


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 2:01 pm
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Just stuck some ice blocks on a table at the top of the stairs & blowing a fan gently over it.

Already bring the temp down after only 15mins or so.

I stuck a load of ice blocks in the freezer yesterday so hopefully have enough to keep exchanging.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 2:02 pm
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29 degrees in my little hospital room.

I havent been in to our 1970's concrete ward block today. I can only imagine the that it will be 40+

Not great when you have very vulnerable people in there....


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 2:03 pm
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^^ That sounds like utter torture.

Those poor people.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 2:06 pm
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Currently 34c here in Norwich, south facing garden is currently saying 39c but that thermometer has always been funny, told me it was 45c a few weeks ago. Ground floor of the house is sitting at 23c which is nice, probably helped from the tiled floor through out, our fluffy old english surely appreciates it. The Mrs has her office upstairs in the north side and that's sitting around 26c...think everyone is sleeping downstairs tonight.


 
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According to my weather app the temp in Newcastle now is 30c (noon) My room temp is 24c. Still 4c less than the average (34c) of my hometown in N.Borneo where I would stand under the sun midday fishing … like a fool with my friends. We seldom get sunburn (very) and hardly heard of heatstroke at all. We get very tan very quickly under the sun and I suppose that’s the way we cope with the sun.

To cool down we drink plenty of coconut water and watermelon.

Sounds delightful chewie. Can I ask though, how does one find themselves coming from such a beautiful part of the world to... erm, Newcastle?


 
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This is STW. You’ve been here a while…you know what happens next 😀

Oh yes 😀

I also spend a lot of time in spain and I know all too well you don't spend more than 10-15 mins out in the sun if the temp is over 35, you're just asking to go to hospital.

I'm not sure what the temp is in my locale at the moment, but you learn to 'feel the heat' after a while, and put it this way, when the dog wants to go out for a pee, he has as long as it takes me to smoke a fag, and then it's back inside for both of us!


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 2:10 pm
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This is one of the 3 days a year that makes me happy we installed aircon when we extended.


 
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Currently 35 in Reading, with just the hint a a breeze and humidity is low so it feels almost comfortable to walk around in.

But as soon as you stop walking you realize quite how much fluid your loosing, and then it gets uncomfortable!

Would not want to be working outside today, and it's not set to peak for another 3 hours!


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 2:13 pm
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https://ibb.co/ygv5ypd

getting toasty here in north Essex ....


 
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So ……. Did I make a mistake opening the windows or not closing them soon enough?

The theory is that as we live in small well insulated boxes, surrounded by an ambient environment that is essentially of infinite size compared to our box.

So if you open your house to the outside the two will equalise to the same as the outside.

So you should open as many doors and windows as you can at night (without getting burgled) and let the house drop to the same as the cool outside night time temps - which have typically been high teens / low 20's in this current run.

Then when the house is cool, you close the doors and windows and stop the exchange.

Of course our insulation isn't perfect and there will be transfer through walls and windows but still way slower than the equalisation of an opened system.

Tonight's challenge is that it won't get down below 25C overnight, so we can't cool the houses so much before shutting them up again and taking another heat load tomorrow


 
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35C at the local weather station in Bristol. We've just sent our construction workers home.


 
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So ……. Did I make a mistake opening the windows or not closing them soon enough?

I put a thermometer outside in the shade last night.

When I got up at 7am it was 19 deg so opened every door/window in the house. (house internally was about 23 deg) managed to cool it to about 21 deg

As soon as the shade temp got to 20 deg I closed all the doors and windows + sun facing curtains. Has made a big difference. That was about 8:15am !

Same tonight. If the thermometer outside is saying a higher temp than inside the house (which I bet it will) there is no point opening any windows. Last night it was about 10:30pm before the temp started dropping significantly


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 2:21 pm
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I've just been to check on my 86 year old neighbour two doors up. She has turned the central heating down one notch and promises to consider turning it down again tomorrow if it's hotter.


 
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bloody stuffy in my office now 🙁


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 2:28 pm
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It's 33c at the mo in calderdale, according to the BBC weather app.. and I can belive it, but I don't have a thermometer to verify it. Just had a home shopping delivery, and by the time I'd unpacked it and put it away I was sweating so much I had to wipe my specatcles down!

Be carefull out there peeps, it's a bit warm!

Tonight and tomorrow night will not be nice, as said above, the minimum temps are very high for night time temps.

I was commando with no sheet last night, with a fan blowing too.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 2:33 pm
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By feel, internal temp has reached outside shade temp now.

Opened front and rear windows and the through breeze, even if its hot air, is an improvement. When the sun comes round to the rear, will probably shut those.

More importantly, opened up the asgard shed. dont want to cause the babies any discomfort.


 
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Just got back from an hour's ride. 36C on the road, only 31C in the shady woods by the stream, maxing out at 37.8 on the stony track across the exposed wheat fields. Seems to be reflected heat from direct sun on light coloured surfaces that results in the highest temps.

It was nowhere near as hot as that sounds though. I wasn't dripping with sweat overall, and the descents were clearly drying my skin. Sun very clearly weaker than in other hot places. Quite enjoyable really, just right for a hot day's ride for me.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 2:38 pm
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I was commando with no sheet last night, with a fan blowing too

I think, technically, they’re a groupie not a fan if they’ll do that.


 
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Because some people might have personal emergencies to attend to, or hospital workers might need to get to work, etc. SO might need to use the train, if there’s a suitable one running, that is.

But today they are saying 'don't travel unless you have to' (see all your above examples) and that makes sense. And if there *are* trains running then why shouldn't anyone use them irrespective of the reason?


 
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Applause ^^


 
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Because they might call them all off later and you'd not be getting back?


 
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On a positive and practical note can I just say what a great day it is for doing the laundry?

Yes I'm just waiting for the machine to finish a second load, in the time its taken the first load is bone dry.

Bloody hot putting it out and taking it in though. The workshop which I opened up this morning is now 42.7degC, if I had left it shut up I think 50+ would have been on the cards.

I was slightly worried as there are dive bottles in there and lots of other stuff under pressure.


 
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But today they are saying ‘don’t travel unless you have to’ (see all your above examples) and that makes sense. And if there *are* trains running then why shouldn’t anyone use them irrespective of the reason?

Because trains when the AC isn't running are metal and glass boxes sat in the sun.

There's a reasonable chance of disruptions meaning trains full of people stuck in them.

There's a high chance of speed limits being in place which means fewer trains running. More people stuck on platforms in the sun, more overcrowding on the running trains.

There's more chance of disruption if passengers start fainting in the heat, delaying services, and putting more strain on the ambulance services that haven't got the capacity to be dealing with people who ignored the advice to stay at home in the shade?

Just got back from an hour’s ride. 36C on the road, only 31C in the shady woods by the stream, maxing out at 37.8 on the stony track across the exposed wheat fields.

Congratulations? You're in Wales where it's cooler in the middle of a field than it is in the shade in areas where weather warnings were issued.


 
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I think, technically, they’re a groupie not a fan if they’ll do that.

Hahah, very good! 😀

That would explain why my specs needed a good clean this morning! 😉


 
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I think, technically, they’re a groupie not a fan if they’ll do that.


 
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Congratulations?

No need, just reporting back. Not showing off.


 
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Thankfully it’s only 22degC in my house at the moment (Galloway coast) as I suffer from Uhtoff’s phenomenon, if i get hot/overheat my body can’t cope due to demyelination of the nervous system which lays me out totally immobile in spasm and a mess. Outside it’s 24degC with a nice breeze from the sea which is not too bad but I cant venture outside to the garden as I doubt I’d make it back in the house.


 
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Because trains when the AC isn’t running are metal and glass boxes sat in the sun.

There’s a reasonable chance of disruptions meaning trains full of people stuck in them.

There’s a high chance of speed limits being in place which means fewer trains running. More people stuck on platforms in the sun, more overcrowding on the running trains.

There’s more chance of disruption if passengers start fainting in the heat, delaying services, and putting more strain on the ambulance services that haven’t got the capacity to be dealing with people who ignored the advice to stay at home in the shade?

Then cancel the services then. Then people who *have* to travel make alternative arrangements just like they do during rail strikes.


 
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Me right now

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Houns looks just like I imagined!


 
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A Greek god?


 
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Then cancel the services then. Then people who *have* to travel make alternative arrangements just like they do during rail strikes.

Because then you just cause travel issues on the roads?

Not everyone's selfish and incapable of following advice.


 
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A Greek god?

I was thinking more of Buddha


 
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Buddha belly on a stick thin frame. *flexes*

Just found my long haired cat locked in the conservatory, he must’ve snuck in 2 hours ago! He’s fine, was fast asleep and didn’t want to be moved. Dread to think what the temperature is in there


 
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Just found my long haired cat locked in the conservatory

If you've lost your budgie I think we all know where that is...


 
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