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My 15 yr old daughter has been given the choice of wearing her pe kit - scratchy thick man made fibre jersey style top and skort with rubbery undershort thingies or her normal uniform without the blazer but with the tie!
I get that the teachers cant do no uniform as half the kids will turn up looking like Vegas hookers but really - a tie!!!!
Train lines don’t have expansion gaps anymore, they’re pretensioned and welded together.
It's so the trains have a whiney whistle as they approach as opposed to clickaty clack.
Does mean The Devine Comedy's National Express isn't quite as accurate any more.
Anyone saying it’ll “just be a bit warmer like a proper summer” is a complete cretin.
I massively struggled with living in my room oven last week when it was about 30C. I’ve been looking at the forecast for days wondering how I’ll cope. Being in the office is fine (too cold, even) but don’t think I’d cope with the 39C forecast. Luckily I’m heading to my parents in Fife where it’ll be 27C max on Tuesday. My manager had already rejected working from home on Monday (core day when everyone has to be in) and I had already decided to go before upper management told everyone to do what you have to do to cope. Bit of common sense at last.
Can’t help but think media are making a big deal of it unnecessarily
there was a heat dome over BC last summer. over 600 people died, 4 times the expected number of deaths for that time of year. it was over 40° foot several days in a row, but vulnerable folk will die.
It might be 40' but at least it's not snowing.
Imagine shoveling snow in 40' heat!
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Why don’t they just tell people to take electrolyte tablets and a few cold showers or is it something else causing the trouble?
So by the end of next week hundreds or even thousands will have died because of the heatwave. Unless people listen to the advice and take things seriously, in which case they won't and then the critics will be falling over themselves to say that we over reacted and it was just liberal wokeness or something?
Unless people listen to the advice
What is the advice, I'll be at school trying not to melt, what can I do to help?
Practical advice, the close the curtains, windows, keep the cool in, is good, here’s my contribution -
If you’re going to squirt someone with a hosepipe make sure the water coming out of the end is cold. Hoses left in the sun get extremely hot and there was a case near us last year of someone getting extremely burnt (scalded) and very poorly.
Also, the best way to cool someone down is not to douse them in water or chuck them in a pond. This makes blood vessels contract, and core organs bring blood back thinking the body is getting cold. This then raises the core temperature, which is what you’re trying to reduce.
Put the persons hands and wrists in cool water and this has the effect desired, lowering the body core temperature. This worked best in my “career” even if it was tempting to get someone to blast you with a high pressure hose!
I’m sure this advice is out there somewhere but all I’ve seen is red alert, stay indoors, check on your neighbours.
Someone on here must have some more up to date advice?
So will I (OK, in the office - we need to maintain enough managerial cover for safety and security reasons)
- drink plenty of cool water,
- wear lightweight clothing
- close windows and doors and curtains / blinds particularly on south facing elevations
- run wrists under a cool tap when you can
Will you?!!, only you can answer that question, I’ll also run my wrists under cool water if you need me to..
I’m sure this advice is out there somewhere but all I’ve seen is red alert, stay indoors,
Does this include staying indoors in a very poorly ventilated room with 30 sweaty teenagers? After I have ridden to work of course!
Leave windows fully open at night, if safe to do so, to allow rooms to cool.
In morning close windows, drop/draw blinds, close curtains.
Mid evening open windows, blinds, curtains.
Repeat for as long as necessary.
Drink more water than alcohol; difficult for some.
Cool showers/baths.
Drink lots of tea - helps with sweating.
You'd think an MTB club in SW France would be wised up on heat stroke. Well we all failed to recognise the symptoms recently. It was "warm" out but nothing unusual. One guy started lagging and felt crap so decided to go home. Another on an e-bike offered him a push so off they went. At home he felt really crap so took himself to hospital - heatstroke.
Thing is that he never felt thirsty or even hot, just crap.
I lived in Melbourne during the heatwave that led to the Black Saturday fires in 2009. In the city all the leaves fell from the trees that morning as temperatures nudged 50.
We lived in a small flat with A/C, so kept a bath of cold water full and would sit in that when it got too much and then just drip dry.
Wearing a wet tshirt to bed was another thing.
In Queensland now we keep ice packs in the freezer. My kids regularly take them to bed as pillows/cold water bottles.
When my wife was in labour with the second child it was mid 40s and I was following her around the house with ice packs and a fan. She hates hospitals so was trying desperately to avoid going until the last possible moment.
Does this include staying indoors in a very poorly ventilated room with 30 sweaty teenagers?
Tricky one that. The advice is to reverse the normal winter advice of keeping windows and doors closed to keep heat in - keep them closed to keep the heat out now. And embrace the fumes of the teenagers.
I'm also of course aware that ventilating is on the anti-covid advice..... but I guess heatstroke is an immediate 'kills in hours' risk at this point.
I’m also of course aware that ventilating is on the anti-covid advice….. but I guess heatstroke is an immediate ‘kills in hours’ risk at this point.
Luckily for me I had my second dose of COVID 2 weeks ago so should be ok for next week!
but I guess heatstroke is an immediate ‘kills in hours’ risk at this point.
What about excessive exposure to lynx body spray?
More seriously arent some schools considering closing Mon/Tues?
at the ex-mrs already covid postponed graduation on Monday, ffs
More seriously arent some schools considering closing Mon/Tues?
term ends Thursday, may as well just shut it down, but at least give notice, I've already taken Tuesday off in anticipation, dis back down to 22ish on wednesday, but what are they doing a day out from summer hols? watching films etc, just childcare at this point of the year
Great so now I'm in a 39degC area. I'm built for cold this is not funny 🙁
I was thinking 34, that's a bit warm for my scottish blood, but if I go just up the road it's 21. But then I realised, that's the sea.
was at spurn point today at 4, and it appears to have an 18 degree swing to anywhere inland, lets all go
anyone care to explain why its peaking in a 25 mile inland diameter of York/Lincoln?
It probably help to see the wind patterns.
https://www.ventusky.com/?p=52.63;-2.46;6&l=temperature-2m&t=20220719/1400
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ahhh so the offshore wind cooling has gone,
Aye - and the warm air is crossing over the warm south
obsessed by that website now
I know it's a freak occurrence, but we got the tidal surge a few years ago too, temp literally peaks in my back yard before the wind off the humber stunts it going north
The other tip is to try and cover south facing windows, outside, like the European blinds. This is even better than closed curtains or blinds inside.
Hanging a towel, sheet or cardboard on the window (etc)
term ends Thursday, may as well just shut it down, but at least give notice, I’ve already taken Tuesday off in anticipation, dis back down to 22ish on wednesday, but what are they doing a day out from summer hols? watching films etc, just childcare at this point of the year
In the vipers nest that is the school parents FB page...... one load of posts complaining that the kids have to go in, another load complaining that if the school closes then parents are supposed to be at work and will need to organise childcare. To summarise
IT'S ALL THE SCHOOL'S FAULT, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO ABOUT IT!!!!!!
Schools are shut here Mon/Tues with a nominal amount of work set on google classroom. Fair enough.
Thanks qwert, I'm going to open all the windows over Monday night and hope someone breaks in and burns the place down!! FFS that is hardly advice is it!!
Schools are shut here Mon/Tues
Sensible, and called early, even better. West Berkshire heads have a zoom meeting this afternoon which seems far too late to actually do much, I am more than happy to go in but think a day in blistering classrooms followed by kids going home in the hottest part of the day is not a good idea and would seem to be against the government advice.
In the vipers nest that is the school parents FB page…… one load of posts complaining that the kids have to go in, another load complaining that if the school closes then parents are supposed to be at work and will need to organise childcare.
Indeed, parents are a nightmare!!
I don't see why any school couldn't suggest kids stay home but have teachers in to supervise kids who can't stay home.
obsessed by that website now
theweatheroutlook.com - go to the 'buzz' section to check the blog. It's very informative and helps you understand the charts that you can get on there and how weather forecasting is actully done. There's usually a flurry of posts in advance of possible weather events but not so much this time. He does go in holiday from time to time so maybe that's it 🙂
Another weather blog about the next few days. Worth reading, especially for the outdoorsy types.
https://www.mwis.org.uk/blog/post/summit-heat-dry-air
Reading the MWIS blog, are we really going to experience 'dry heat' rather than our usual humid heat? That wouldn't be quite as awful. I'll take 35 dry rather than 28 soggy.
Does this include staying indoors in a very poorly ventilated room with 30 sweaty teenagers?
My daughter's school sent round a note on Friday saying not to come in Monday and Tuesday - seems sensible to me.
Freeze a 2ltr pop bottle or milk container. Stand it in a bowl in front of a fan. The specific heat capacity of ice is huge so ypu should get some respite if you are really suffering
Damp cloth on the back of your neck if ypu have a headache, supposed to cool down the blood hitting the brain as the water evaporates it cools slightly.
Dont cook a roast dinner, hoover, use hair dryer etc as they add to the thermal load indoors.
Keep windows open till around d 0900 then shut them if your inland.
Do not exercise between 1200 and 1700 mon, tues. It will be blistering hot.
Walk your dog bfore 0900 or after 1900, do the back of hand test on the tarmac just to ensure its cooled enough.
Opening the fridge and standing in front of it will make the house warmer, despite what facebook tells your other half
Trying to post a pic of my house, built 1901, from 1925 showing the roll out awnings protecting the front windows, sadly long gone. The Historic England site doesn't allow screenshots, and I would rather crop it to avoid making my address obvious.
Just tested positive for Covid, this is going to be fun.
I might rig a white tarp to do the same job for the next couple of days.
Photo from here, some great time wasting to be had.
https://historicengland.org.uk/images-books/archive/collections/aerial-photos/
I have just put 2 tarps on the back of the house (east facing) and will put some on the front before the sun comes round.
If they work then will look to get some proper solar shades and permanent attachment points so i can remove them easier
Best thing I have found is a cool shower. Start cool ish then gradually turn it down as much as you want, it's pleasant rather than shocking. Fifteen mins in a nice cool shower will really bring your core temp down and you will then feel far better going back into the heat.
I love doing this before bed, it really helps.
Then get into bed witj wet hair.
We have wooden shutters on the inside windows of our former foundry/grain mill/haulage company now house. These block a lot of heat in summer. The massively thick stone walls are a good thermal sink for two days before they start transmitting the heat.
The bedroom is in the attic and is red hot in summer but there's a guest bedroom on the ground floor that is closer to the river and is nice and cool.
Our Finland dog sleeps downstairs in the workshop on the stone floor.
I'm smug now but I won't be in winter when trying to heat the place again.
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Got a roll of lining paper lying about. Just Duck Taped some to the outside of the kids south facing windows. Didn't take long at all and if it's effective I shall make some external shades using radiator foil that I can put up/take down quickly as required throughout the season (thinking Command velcro strips) There are a few occasions each year where something like that would be a godsend. Shutters would be great on the back bedroom but the other one doesn't have the room to fit shutters (middle bedroom of a Victorian semi).
I just stapled an old sheet to a batten to cover outside the south facing french doors. Couple of fat screws in some wall plugs wedged themselves in to the weep holes above the "stone" lintel. Couple of spring clamps and job sorted.
Conservatory windows & outside door open, inner sliding patio door to lounge shut and curtains closed. Yesterday managed to keep inside at 22c, while about 28c outside. I tried to explain the concept of keeping the heat out to the Mrs. Usual retort of needing everything open to "let the oxygen in" . (She was working yesterday, this afternoon and tomorrow). I fully expect to come home from work 1/2 hour after her tomorrow and find everything open, and any cool sanctuary gone.
If they work then will look to get some proper solar shades and permanent attachment points so i can remove them easier
Just get permanent roll up one's, I have them on four South facing windows in my place. One's broken, and you can really tell the difference.
Usual retort of needing everything open to “let the oxygen in” .
And your response to this statement of utter genius?
@mert
What would the roll up ones be like? Similar to roller blinds?
Am currently looking at retractable awnings but they are expensive
the challenge will be tomorrow night where the temperature will drop to only 23C by midnight and 20C by 5am before it starts to climb again, so it'll be harder to cool the house overnight to then maintain.
Following night similar profile but minimising to 17C, and then Weds we'll be breaking the winter woolies out again!
And your response to this statement of utter genius
I've given up trying to reason! "There's no oxygen in here" being her usual response to any slightly warm or stuffy room.
Dear wife moans about air-con in the car "blowing the dust around". No point trying to explain its better than the air coming in that open window as there's a pollen filter.
all the leaves fell from the trees that morning as temperatures nudged 50
Big cherry tree down the bottom of our garden is doing this. Leaves going yellow and dropping, like its autumn. Assume its heat/lack of water?
Usual retort of needing everything open to “let the oxygen in” .
How do you survive in winter?
Starting at 7am for the next 2 days so as to avoid the very worst of it. Our work landlord won't allow external modifications, including a air con heat exchanger. But our print lab must be remain between 20 and 30 degrees and the MJF puts out a lot of heat. The exchanger is therefore in the workshop. Combined with the heat coming from 15kw air compressor the workshop is going to be deeply unpleasant.
I work outside. Will freeze a 2 litre bottle of water to take, start at 6am, then regularly soak my hat and shirt with water. Can usually keep going pretty well using these techniques.
A friend of mine used to worked on a melon farm in the Negev desert. All the workers slept in airconditioned rooms. He froze 4 bottles of water overnight. Up before dawn, work at first light, carry on working until all the water bottles had melted and been drunk, back to bed around 11am. Wake up around dusk, have dinner and a few beers, rinse and repeat.
East coast mainline railway looking like it will be closed south of York tomorrow so anyone planning on hopping on a train, don’t bother.
Seriously contemplating sleeping outside on the kids trampoline
Yep, if heat is bad tomorrow night and Tues I'll use my bikepacking gear and sleep in the garden.
Frankly I've loved today; 7hr mtb ride with mates, pouring water over my back by the end, snooze in front of the WC xco, then beer in the back garden. It's a dry heat tonight. Lovely.
What's not mentioned in the forecast is that whilst tomorrow has very little wind, Tuesday has lots. That wind will make the extreme heat bearable I reckon.
Tomorrow's the worst day I think.
Not looking forward to Monday Tuesday. My classroom is on the 2nd floor with south facing windows that only open 4cm and blow shut with just a little wind and blinds that are thick and black. It was 28c at 8.30am last week.
BTW, my friend worked on the melon farm in in mid1980s. Top temperatures were in the low 40s.
Melon Farmer 🤣
Anyone know any Muddy Funsters?
Peaked at 31C here near York. Very pleasant now at 26C, and low humidity. Enjoying a beer in the garden. Sun screens erected earlier over windows have kept inside downstairs under 22C.
Seriously contemplating sleeping outside on the kids trampoline
It’s not a bad idea. Colonial era Queenslanders (houses) have big verandas partly to enable ‘sleep outs.’ They’re also raised off the ground on stumps to catch the breeze … and to stay out of the water in floods.
https://www.makeheritagefun.com/queenslander-architecture-adapted-climate/?amp=1
This is similar to what I have.
I really need to get them sorted out as one's broken (comprehensively) and one or two of the others are ropey as hell.
Contemplating a run lunchtime Monday, just a comfortable 5k, not pushing it. Will see how it feels on the day.
After today, I've reconsidered and will be attempting to get up early and go for a run before work instead!
Coped ok today despite being in a little black car with no A/C during the midday heat! Coping strategy was lots of stops for ice cream, windows down and judicious use of the right pedal 😁
What I'm not coping with though is the kids outside having a pool party due to them being hot and that they have no school tomorrow. Trying to get some sleep before getting up for work at 4am and they're really starting to annoy me. Really not looking forward to tomorrow in my truck with no A/C and sue to the brisk-like aerodynamics opening the window does naff-all to cool things down. Add in that the rear has a roof made out of the same plastic that they use for polytunnels and I'm seriously worried I will explode tomorrow like a can of coke left out in the sun, gooey mess everywhere and that horrid smell of sugary nastiness everywhere for the next decade.
How many kids can you legitimately kill before you get labelled as a serial killer?
How many kids can you legitimately kill before you get labelled as a serial killer?
It's not how many you kill that's the problem, it's how many you cop the blame for...
How many kids can you legitimately kill before you get labelled as a serial killer?
Only three I'm afraid. Don't ask me how I know...
Just had a rain shower down here in Weymouth! In fact it's still raining lightly. Had to bring the bbq into the caravan awning.
(No longer hot)
How many kids can you legitimately kill before you get labelled as a serial killer?
Got to be separate occasions hasn’t it? Lots in the same night is just your run of the mill mass murder
Did cleaning and DIY related activities all day today, wasn't too bad but when the time came to go for a run or ride I felt a bit groggy so I decided not to. I feel alright now though. Car thermometer got up to 30 today whilst moving.
@mert
Cheers, Sally due to the lack of space between the tops of our windows and the facia boards we can't fit anything like that, going to try some solar sails next as they are cheap to test.
The tarps are working despite all the odd looks we are getting from the neighbours
Went for a spin earlier before 11am in swinley.. Most the day In paddling pool with kids. All windows closed all curtains shut as per advice in here... Currently 27 deg C in the house and bearable. Let's see what the next few days brings!
Hilly south Lanarkshire, house a pleasant 22.5 and a gentle breeze blowing through.