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They just don't seem to get it, no matter how many times I have told them we're now on GMT, they still want to be fed an hour early.....
take them out for a walk round the park. They'll forget about it for an hour.
Yeah, funny you should say that, the dog has suddenly got fidgety...
I was wondering why our cat was being particularly noisy at 4pm yesterday and today. Now I know!
Yeah, funny you should say that, the dog has suddenly got fidgety…
Probably all those cats in the park.
Your cats are dumb then. Ours can tell the time.
The cats are probably anxious about all the other cats out there operating in gangs.
Clowders.
Must admit, I find my cats’ sense of time remarkable. I get up at 6am every day and make an espresso. Not a peep from the cats. 7am on the dot, they’ll be meowing their heads off for their breakfast. 12 noon, they’ll be sat at the kitchen door for lunch, same at 5pm for dinner.
Just about managed to con them yesterday by splitting their breakfast. Half at 6am when I got up, so 7am to their body clock, and the rest at actual 7am.
They seem to be mostly normal today, other than getting pissed at repeatedly being used as accessories in Halloween photos as they’re both jet black.
12 noon, they’ll be sat at the kitchen door for lunch
They have lunch!
Ours just get breakfast and dinner....
Obvs that includes canapes and an aperitif before dinner..
never mind the cats, can someone explain it to me? Something to do with builders or something?
Obvs that includes canapes and an aperitif before dinner..
Half a mouse with the other half being left on the kitchen floor as a 'present' to the owner?
Ha, mine is exactly the same!
He got his own back by leaving me a nice little puddle of bile and grass on the kitchen floor to clean up this morning.
Cat 1 left me a massive sloppy poo right next to his litter tray because I was an hour late letting him out to cock his leg this morning.
Cats 1 & 2 have been moaning non-stop since 15:45 to remind me just in case I forget their dinner.
never mind the cats, can someone explain it to me? Something to do with builders or something?
I don’t get it either. Seems pretty pointless. I thought it had something to do with farmers?
Cats, just distract them with a laser pointer.
I don’t get it either. Seems pretty pointless. I thought it had something to do with farmers?
You have to spin your thinking for it to make sense. GMT (i.e. what we use in the winter) is normal - the aberration is what we use in the summer. The reasoning is that daylight hours are awesums so why waste the ones before the vast majority of the population wake up. Instead shunt the day around and make waking time an hour closer to dawn and give us all an extra hour of daylight for shits and giggles after work. Only snag is BST would be a right ballache if we had it 12 months a year, especially in the north of the UK. It wouldn't get light until nearly 10am in the northern Highlands. So we revert back to GMT for the darkest months.
And the cats - our two have an uncanny time keeping ability. Scary. 2 breakfast and two dinners each mind. One big meal and they inhale it (rescue cats from a 7 cat household and they haven't lost the survival eating instinct) and they barf it up half the time.
Some of us can remember the experiment to do away with the clocks changing, three years from 1968 to 1971. In the winter we were mostly walking to and from school and pedestrian casualties increased. I remember being issued with reflective tags to go on our coats and satchels.
Here's an interesting article from RoSPA which possibly explains it better than I can. Walking to school in the dark was a nightmare, and morning pedestrian casualties increased, but were actually outweighed by the number of casualty reductions in the evenings.
https://www.rospa.com/lets-talk-about/2019/october/let%E2%80%99s-go-back-to-1968
Anyway, my Labrador is so routine-driven that I am badgered for dinners, walks and bedtime routine exactly an hour earlier than normal. It takes several days for her internal clock to reset. Wish someone would explain it to my bodily functions too, I've no chance of a lie-in.......
Who lets their kids walk to school, these days?
That old chestnut about farmers having to wait until dawn before they could attend to their livestock.
We’ve got headtorches, and livestock don’t wait until dawn before they act up😜
Only snag is BST would be a right ballache if we had it 12 months a year, especially in the north of the UK.
... wouldn't bother me, and just as importantly the Royal Soc for Prevention of Accidents estimate that 2500 lives were saved when it was piloted (link above. There are others.)
I'm sure our cats can tell the time, but their prime motivation is to prove that they are doing what they choose to do by doing everything in an unpredictable manner. This includes working out what we expect and doing the opposite. So BST vs GMT makes no practical difference.
PS - at present, one is sitting between me and the keyboard, checking what I type.
and just as importantly the Royal Soc for Prevention of Accidents estimate that 2500 lives were saved when it was piloted (link above. There are others.)
2500 - so 800+ a year - that's a crazy high number, but I guess you have to remember quite how high deaths on the roads were back then to now. Clearly they know far more than me, but with the benefit of hindsight you'd expect such a huge number to show on the yearly trend as a dip and then rise again....but it doesn't.
We’ve got headtorches,
get headtorches for the livestock and then make a video and post it on here! How many lumens for a cow?
yearly trend
It's a winter effect, not a year round one
They have lunch!
Ours just get breakfast and dinner….
They’re six month old kittens, so three feeds a day. We’ll get them to two feeds once they’re a year old.
Obligatory cat photos…
It’s a winter effect, not a year round one
????? Wonky thinking.....A winter decline would show in the total for that year. Or are you saying there would be an equal and opposite increase in the summer to compensate to make a ruler straight decline line from '66 to '80 without a blip for 68-71?
edit - unless they didn't collect data for every year. But if they were doing an analysis for the BST experiment, you'd think they would have.
Graph shows averages for each year, down steepest for the three years in question. Why say "muddled"?
Why say “muddled”?
How are you explaining the same decline the years immediately before and after?
I have a feeling some of these cats that can tell the time might also have you beat on the statistical interpretation too 😉
But as I said earlier, the data behind that graph might not be granular enough and be bollox. But taken on face value it shows zero impact of the BST experiment looked at now in the long term 50 years later.
In fact, this one shows it might well have been a thing. We still seemed to kill people on the roads for fun back then, considering how many less vehicles there were.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7615/
Sooo double daylight saving.....
GMT = General Mouse Time
DST = Dormouse Slaying Time
BST = Backgarden Stalking Time
UTC = Unlimited Treat Confirmation
It's actually quite simple. Just move your cat one hour to the left.
. We still seemed to kill people on the roads for fun back then, considering how many less vehicles there were.
Fewer cars on the road maybe, but it perhaps had a lot to do with awareness, and of course a far greater percentage of pedestrians. In the late sixties we had the Tufty Club telling us how to cross the road safely, and then the Green Cross Code in the seventies. We chuckle at them now but they were very much a factor in reducing casualties through education.
Pedestrian crossings were just Zebras in 1968. The first pelican crossings were introduced in 1969 in the UK.
My gf has the same problem with food.
I, too, have trouble understanding why ee don't just keep summer time.
Who needs more daylight at 6am as opposed to more in the evening?
It's depressing.
There was talk of the EU deciding whether to use summer time throughout the year. I'm for it.
Who needs more daylight at 6am as opposed to more in the evening?
It’s depressing
I know the bulk of the population live in the south of the UK but here in northern Scotland I woke this morning at 0615 to pitch dark even with the clock gone back to GMT. Just commuted in on a rainy day with headlights still on. In Dec even on GMT it will only be getting light around 0845-0900. If we'd stuck to BST that would be near 1000 like an Icelandic winter.
Think of it as a positive to Scottish independence - Scotland could keep the current setup and England & Wales could go to BST all year or even double BST
FUNKMASTER said
get headtorches for the livestock and then make a video and post it on here! How many lumens for a cow?
Brilliant!!!
Laughing out loud!!!
Ah @welshfarmer, you beat me to it..
BST - British Shaving Time. Now it's back to GMT I'll not be shaving until the Spring. Winter beards are definitely a thing and I don't know why it took me so long to find out the difference they make to chin warmth 😃
"Who lets their kids walk to school, these days?"
Probably the majority of kids in inner cities.
welshfarmer that is possibly one of the best things I've seen, thanks for posting 😀