Done some dedicated teetotalling this last year and cannot find better than Brewdog,
Have you tried Brooklyn special effects?
It's way ahead of any other non alcoholic beer I've tasted.
That second one comes with it’s own shit caravan to go with the shit interior. All for a bargain 200k.
ACKchually the listing points out:
Price - Offers over £200,000 are invited. Static Caravan is not included.
TBF no-one is going to renovate that house. They'd knock down and rebuild. The house probably has a negative value so that the land would be worth more without it. If you could orient it away from the road and baffle noise with trees, could it be quite nice?
If they say the prize is £15k and it's only worth £500, how much trouble can they really get into? I'm sure the ASA can't make them pay up
I’m sure the ASA can’t make them pay up
ASA always seem somewhat toothless with as far as I am aware the only option being "dont do it again" at which point the company goes sure and next times advertises a solid silver variant.
On a broader note it is disappointing about them. It did seem they would give an alternative to the normal get brought out by budweiser or whoever owns carling but sadly it does seem its a choice between stay small or get brought out whether thats by a crap beer co or a VC.
For that second house. I suspect it could be quite nice done up or replaced depending on how the A9 is changed. Sadly the pricing doesnt seem completely nuts for the area.
It will be interested to see what they make of that estate. If they get it somewhat closer to the woodland which still exists round glenmore lodge it would be impressive and a nice break from the burn it and shoot it approach of the past.
Done some dedicated teetotalling this last year and cannot find better than Brewdog, sad to say – tried loads of others but Punk AF and nanny state are top dog (by miles, imho).
As said Brooklyn Special effects is good, as is Pistonhead Flat Tyre (watch the packaging, the alcohol free is blue and silver NOT black and silver), I've also enjoyed the Aldi Brewdog ripoff.
@franksinatra wind your neck in, I don't think he's ever defended raptor persecution or even tried to justify it. Unless you're vegan or hunt your own meat kindly stfu and leave those that do alone.
Thks for the AF suggestions - will try some out.
I used to like big brews but something about AF seems to really not support strong flavours - I tend to find them undrinkable. Seems like a tough target to hit, very easy to go too sweet or too bland ime. The Brew Dog Teds have it cracked - Infinite is very decent as well but their pale ale is very light tasting, might be too bland for some.
Seems the boys at Brewdog have been naughty again and have just had their wrists slapped by the ASA for misleading health claims for one of their puerile-named products - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57732529
The trouble with trying to be edgy and clever is that as soon as one problem gets publicity, everyone piles in to point out all the others.
The trouble with trying to be edgy and clever is that as soon as one problem gets publicity, everyone piles in to point out all the others.
The problem with being an undercover **** is that as soon as somebody points out that, despite appearances, you're actually a bit of a ****..... everyone piles in to tell you that they've always thought you were a bit of a **** too.
I really hope the swear filter is working today.
Sounds like they are taking the same marking approach as Ryanair.
Cause a bit of mild controversy and then get your brand spread across all the news channels.
Free publicity
They’ll have to kill a fair few deer when it interferes with their carbon offset money.
good. Deer are vermin in Scotland and need to be massivly culled
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-60054053
"We were continually told to ship beer to the USA, despite everyone knowing the beers hadn't been approved.
"Everyone was worried they'd be [fired] if they didn't do what was asked."
Some useful information from the CIA on how to undermine an organisation - not that I’m suggesting in any way that employees read and digest and make full use of such info…
https://www.openculture.com/2022/01/read-the-cias-simple-sabotage-field-manual.html
Disgusting beer with a disgusting culture at the heart of the business.
I refuse to drink their pish- rather have Bud Lite!
I refuse to drink their pish- rather have Bud Lite!
Steady on now old chap. Let's not be too drastic.
:O
I'm sure there'll be some fanboys along soon to defend them though.
I'm no fan of Brewdog these days. I think their beer used to be much better than it is now.
I refuse to drink their pish- rather have Bud Lite!
That's a bit much. I'd rather drink my own pish than Bud Lite!
I think their beer used to be much better than it is now.
I find it all really sweet now - more like an alcopop than a craft ale. Grim stuff.
I’m no fan of Brewdog these days. I think their beer used to be much better than it is now.
They changed the hops to a cheaper variety once Tesco picked up Punk. They would also really like you to forget the blurb on the side of their now out of production trashy Blonde.Dead pony is OK, but so many better beers about now. The played a part in starting the sorta revolution in craft beer, certainly in Scotland;so I owe them for that, but not enough to drink their beer.
I’m no fan of Brewdog these days. I think their beer used to be much better than it is now.
After over a year of not getting anything from them I put an order in before Christmas and yeah it's not what I remember it being, so it's not just me. Vocation seem to be my go to for putting a sensibly priced order together now, nice mix of session beers and a few of their more experimental brews.
They changed the hops to a cheaper variety once Tesco picked up Punk
Interesting - I heard something similar but didn't know the reason why..
James Watt was also getting a hard time on LinkedIn recently for attempting a green wash with some new biodegradable bottle (or something along those lines). He didn't like actual packaging experts picking apart that the bottle must still have a liner inside that certainly wouldn't disappear quickly.
I still drink it now and again if I have to, if it's a choice of Tennents (or any other tasteless lager) or Punk, Punk wins every time.
I won't mail order it though, I'm another fan of Vocation stuff, Williams Bros do some tasty beers too.
Jet Black Heart (that you shouldn't drink in America) is actually pretty nice.
That and Layer Cake.
They changed the hops to a cheaper variety once Tesco picked up Punk.
Yeah, the hop bill definitely changed a few years ago.
I might be wrong, but I'm sure they used to be quite vocal about using whole hops back in the day. I was surprised they were using hop pellets when I visited the brewery a good few years ago (although understandable given scale).
Jet Black Heart is okay until you taste a real stout and you realise it's just thin dark pish.
Shout out to 3 of my locals - Windswept in Lossiemouth and The Black Isle Brewery and Cromarty Brewing on the Black Isle if you are after something from the north of Scotland and a little more small scale.
Probably had to make a decision on price v availability for long term production.
Whilst still being able to turn a profit and being on the tesco offer line. You sell nearly double the amount if your included in the deals on the alcohol line.
Hop production hasn't kept up with demand for 6 or so main varieties for years
Yes you cam fwd contact but if its not been grown or the crop has suffered with downy mildew or red spider mite then your nicest hops suddenly smell cheesy.
So you pick amore reliable disease resistant variety, pitch a few more kgs and blend in a bucket of the best ones where they will be most utilized.
Eg 20kg od citra in a brew could be cut with azzaca and comet and the resulting beers would be similar but not the same
The Black Isle Brewery
Extra kudos to The Black Isle Brewery for Jocktoberfest. A brilliant Weekend the last time I went.
Nice guy that James fella...
Agree loads of better beers about these days but roaster coaster 9% nitro stout (available in Tesco) is very good.
Just listed my three favourite breweries Convert! St Andrews as well and Fyne misses out because I have scunnered myself with Jarl.
I wonder if the Beeb will cover the estate workers that Brewdog have chucked out of their homes near Aviemore.
Vocation seem to be my go to for putting a sensibly priced order together now, nice mix of session beers and a few of their more experimental brews.
I like their beers. Their rise has been pretty meteoric. I remember it starting as a v small operation in Calderdale only a few years ago and now they are available in most supermarkets. Could be the hipster in me but I'm not sure they are as nice as they used to be.
So it seems on top of a toxic management culture, lying about ingredients to bypass US regs etc, James Watt might be a bit of a sex pest. Linky.
Surely the brand is irreparably damaged by all this? At the very least he needs to go if the company is to have any kind of future, I'd have thought?
Surely the brand is irreparably damaged by all this?
Hmm, so the "free beer" adverts on FB could be a coincidence but...
I'm not sure if you've notice but the general public don't care. He could dip his nob in the kegs and people would still buy it.
He could dip his nob in the kegs and people would still buy it.
Maybe that's how the beers get their distinctive taste with depth of taste dependent on when he last showered...
Hmm, so the “free beer” adverts on FB could be a coincidence but…
It isn't free, you will never,ever get the time back that you wasted drinking lost lager.
Their Twitter feed should be interesting after that... 😉
@duckman Glad it’s not just me. I found Lost Lager to be totally insipid and disappointing.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-scotland-60119541
This is the worst revelation so far!!
Loch Lomond Brewery based in...
Dumbarton but it's Scottish.
Their Exiting Piers cherry saison is definitely moreish but I don't have any more.
Gah, just discovered that I really like their Hazy Jane after receiving one for crimbo. Then read (enough of) this thread. Any pointers elsewhere for similar? In fact I should rather support local brewers.
Overtone have some delicious options. Based in Yoker, but they taste much better than that would suggest.
Vocation do a similar brew to Hazy Jane - hop, skip and jump?
Tempest do a couple of really nice hazy beers.
highly recommend another north east brewery, Fierce Beer
Their Cafe Racer is amazing
Just read the sex pest story.
Can't see a smoking gun in there, but it paints a (quite credible) picture of the bloke as a creepy MF.
Unlikely to be the final nail in his coffin IMO.
Agree Fierce make some nice beer. 66 North are another Aberdeen brewery doing excellent work.
I really don't rate Fierce Beer. Find it a bit underwhelming although I haven't tried it all and their Private Universe DIPA looks good. That's the problem with IPAs I find, I love the really strong beers. One can of 8.5% IPA and I have to go to have a lay down these days.
They are also quite expensive. Hence, I ordered some from here:
https://lowcostbeer.com/
Found it very hit and miss to be honest. Some of the beers were ok, a couple good but some had no flavour at all. They didn't taste bad as such - I find some really bad IPAs manage to taste bad despite tasting of nothing - but they just didn't taste of anything.
But anything is better than giving my money to James Watt. I used to like Punk IPA when it first came out but I bought some a year ago or so and found it insipid. Really hoping he gets what he almost certainly deserves but somehow I doubt it.
66 North are another Aberdeen brewery doing excellent work.
6 Degrees North. Brewed five minutes from my house, which isn't in Aberdeen 😉
Oh yeah 6. And they're in Dundee aren't they 🤦♂️ More coffee needed.
Well Black Isle brewery if you want more north east then 😉
Spey Valley is more North east than the Black Isle 😉
Lerwick Brewery surely wins that particular competition?
"Gah, just discovered that I really like their Hazy Jane after receiving one for crimbo. Then read (enough of) this thread. Any pointers elsewhere for similar? In fact I should rather support local brewersx"
Thornbridge Green Mountain is similar (but better I think). I too am boycotting Brewdog - there is both better beer and beer from better people to be found elsewhere!
And they’re in Dundee aren’t they 🤦♂️ More coffee needed.
Pretty much mid way between Dundee and Aberdeen 😀
I like their beer but have stopped buying it. The choice of great beer we have today is in part due to them, but there are far too many negative stories emerging about their behaviour.
think I'm in this position to! Mainly down to JW who appears to be a weapons-grade bell-end. He really needs to step down or take a back seat for Brewdog to be able to move forward tbh. The revelation about him owning a lot of Heineken shares is the nail in the coffin!!I like their beer but have stopped buying it. The choice of great beer we have today is in part due to them, but there are far too many negative stories emerging about their behaviour.
@p7eaven Northern Monk have some nice Hazy options, as do Vibrant Forest. Both will deliver if you can't find them in a shop
What's the score with families being kicked off the estate?
What’s the score with families being kicked off the estate?
gamekeepers, gardeners, farming and domestic staff, who were employed by the previous owner, have been laid off and the properties they lived in put up for sale.
P & J link
Times paywall link
I’m no fan of Brew Dog but that press and journal piece is a terrible bit of propaganda by the huntin’ and fishin’ lobby
That’s terrible fancy wanting to replant forests and stop grouse shooting.
Anyway, he does seem to some what of an odd character.
chiefgrooveguru
Thornbridge Green Mountain is similar (but better I think). I too am boycotting Brewdog – there is both better beer and beer from better people to be found elsewhere!
Thornbridge aren't exactly controversy free either.
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highly recommend another north east brewery, Fierce BeerTheir Cafe Racer is amazing
Dirty Sanchez....damn! not making it just now.
Pretty much mid way between Dundee and Aberdeen 😀
I was thinking of 71 Brewing - 🤦♂️ again. It's all these bloody numbers!
On the plus side, I didn't realise 6 North were there, and I'm going to be staying about 10 miles away in April so I might well pay them a visit if they have a taproom!
My go-to hazy NEIPA is Allendale Dirty Deeds - it's fairly widely available in the supermarkets round here, but that might be because they're fairly local.
Thornbridge Green Mountain is similar (but better I think). I too am boycotting Brewdog – there is both better beer and beer from better people to be found elsewhere!
I think we have to boycott Thornbridge as one of the directors or their partner is connected to some dodgy government training scheme that went bust or something.
Thnaks for the hazy ale suggestions all. I guess the key to success with such beers is getting them in you before they’ve sat too long in storage. I’ll keep my peepers peeled for those and also likely checking out a local beer emporium later on 🙂
What’s the score with families being kicked off the estate?
the housing will have been tied to the jobs so exempt from the scottish protections for tenants. If i want to sell my rental flat I have to give 6 months notice. a tied house does not get this protection. Its pretty shoddy behaviour
I do not care what the jobs were even if a part of the reprehensible grouse farming. Its hardly ethical from a company that likes to tell everyone what high ethical standards they support.
can't say I'd get too worked up about it personally, odd though that they weren't offered jobs as rangers or to be involved in the forest in some way... although nothing saying that they weren't... there's a [I]lot[/I] of "if this is true" and "there are claims of" in all the reports I've seen, not much in the way of hard facts.I do not care what the jobs were even if a part of the reprehensible grouse farming. Its hardly ethical from a company that likes to tell everyone what high ethical standards they support.
That’s terrible fancy wanting to replant forests and stop grouse shooting.
If you are interested in what Brewdog consider "re-wilding" then I can point you to a couple of critiques and suggest you look at the government subsidies available for tree-planting.
As per TJ, I have little sympathy for the grouse-shooting set but deer control should continue to be necessary, as should many of the other roles - and perhaps retraining might have been better than eviction?
and perhaps retraining might have been better than eviction?
May well have been, we've no idea if they were offered a different role, and turned it down or were just shown the door. The P&J article is lacking in any details whatsoever, and is just a polemic railing against "incomers" and (of all things) comparing this to highland clearance, which, given that it's written by a member of the grouse moor shooting association, takes some balls.
To me its the fact ll other tenacies in Scotland require 6 months notice if you want to sell the property vacant but they must have use the tied homes loophole to evict that stinks
That an of course the shite beer
This is pretty much a textbook non-apology
He went on to say: "Secondly, and more importantly, I hugely regret anyone feeling in any way uncomfortable around me, as the programme set out."
"This is absolutely the last thing I want and something I will learn from immediately. I truly apologise to anyone who felt that way. This was never my intention.
"However, I would argue that people feeling uncomfortable around me based on false rumours and misinformation does not represent inappropriate behaviour on my behalf."
'I'm genuinely sorry but it's all lies'
we’ve no idea if they were offered a different role, and turned it down or were just shown the door.
The estate is next to me and I've been told no option was available.
if there’s no need for them that’s fair enough - any fingers of blame should be pointed at whoever chose to sell the land/business, not who bought it.The estate is next to me and I’ve been told no option was available.
The only point of concern is, was there any truth in the speculation they were summarily evicted via a loophole?
This is pretty much a textbook non-apology
'I'm sorry for how you felt.'
rather than
'I'm sorry for how I made you feel' or even better, 'I'm sorry for what I did.'
Did I miss it or was there nothing about the other founder Martin Dickie? Has he left or is he just a bit less of a Dickie?
