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Apparently the iShinything isn't waterproof, not even the sports version.

Poor.

Yes it is, but only to 1m. You can swim in it, just don't go down to the bottom of the pool 🙂


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 11:14 am
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Yes it is, but only to 1m. You can swim in it, just don't go down to the bottom of the pool

I bet they have fitted in a depth gauge to check the warranty.

and what morgrim said it's only driving tech forward if you plug your fingers in your ears and drink the kool aid.

NFC, wireless charging, bigger screens, universal charging ports and all that we can thank apple for inventing.


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 11:18 am
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albeit very limited with only one USB port
sounds like you don't approve, but that is an innovation right there 🙂 it's only a limitation if you consider carting round loads of cables along with your ultra-thin laptop a good thing.

Research Kit also sounds very innovative but I have yet to fully read up about that.

I was also impressed with the incremental improvements to the Macbook (redesigned keyboard, battery, etc).


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 11:48 am
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I was also impressed with the incremental improvements to the Macbook (redesigned keyboard, battery, etc).

Chuck in gluing in the components, preventing upgrades and forced obsolescence and it's great innovation 😉


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 11:53 am
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Chuck in gluing in the components, preventing upgrades and forced obsolescence
What percentage of laptops out there do you think have [i]ever[/i] been upgraded? It's just not something that most people will ever need to do (with any brand of laptop). I have a 2008 MBP which still works great. It doesn't need to be upgraded to do it's job.


 
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The guys on the BBC must have started getting slightly fed up with Apple as innovators mantra, as the article on the iWatch ends with this little gem

Apple has previously waited for others to pioneer new tech before leapfrogging the competition as the graphic below illustrates:


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 12:08 pm
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The laptop is very pretty, albeit very limited with only one USB port, the only innovation that I can see is the touchpad with haptic response.

You missed what looks like a non removable battery. That make sit a non starter for me, I've always got more longevity out of my Macs than the battery lives for.

I suspect the Pro might get a lower end expandable/serviceable model, and the Air/Macbook will merge into one


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 12:17 pm
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You missed what looks like a non removable battery.
It will be replaceable though (just not necessarily by the consumer unless they fancy getting their hands dirty!)


 
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The iWatch battery may, apparently last as little as 3 hours per charge:

[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/shopping-and-consumer-news/11461317/Apple-Watch-battery-lasts-as-little-as-three-hours.html ]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/shopping-and-consumer-news/11461317/Apple-Watch-battery-lasts-as-little-as-three-hours.html[/url]


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 1:00 pm
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Waterproof to one metre?
Laughable!


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 1:05 pm
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Given the claim that it'll last up to 18 hours and the direction to try and design apps for 10s use, that suggests to me that anyone doing much beyond simple stuff (which as I said above is for me where smar****ches are great) is going to be charging it once during the day at least. If that's not practical then it's pretty pointless having more advanced functionality. Guess we'll see once it's actually in the wild though.


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 1:06 pm
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sounds like you don't approve, but that is an innovation right there 🙂 it's only a limitation if you consider carting round loads of cables along with your ultra-thin laptop a good thing.

Yeah, but it's quite nice to be able to plug your laptop in and charge your phone from it at the same time. Or plug in an external drive. Etc.

Research Kit also sounds very innovative but I have yet to fully read up about that.

Research kit is frankly scary, though no worse that what all the other companies are doing. As I pointed out above, I use Google Fit and (now) the Sony version - I'm no luddite - but the idea of explicitly sharing my medical data with a non-EU country is not one I'm keen on... (Note to self: keep an eye on updated terms & conditions on installed software...)


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 1:07 pm
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Waterproof to one metre?
Laughable!

Same as the Garmin FR210 I used to have - fine for everyday use, including taking a shower with it on.


 
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wtf is life logging btw ?


 
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Logging your sleep, exercise, activity, etc.

this sort of thing
http://misfit.com/?locale=en


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 1:11 pm
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Everyday use? Well, perhaps, but not really every day. That space makes a difference.

Some days I sail, some days I wake board, some days I swim, etc. It won't be any good for those days.

Then again, at those times, I don't feel any urge to know who's emailed me, so I suppose that's ok.

Still seems to me that this is just another shiny thing for the sake of being a shiny thing.


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 1:13 pm
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Everyday use? Well, perhaps, but not really every day. That space makes a difference.

Some days I sail, some days I wake board, some days I swim, etc. It won't be any good for those days.

You probably wouldn't particularly want to take your iPhone along with you swimming or wake boarding, anyway!


 
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So, the battery life is somewhere between three and eighteen hours depending how much you use it 😆

Pebble FTW!


 
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I've never really got into the Apple stuff - never wanted to pay the premium for them.
I think they look good though and imagine they will be very successful.
People just seem to want Apple stuff even if they're not sure what for. (see iPads). But once the apps come for them they become useful.

I've got a Windows phone and tablet etc so was looking at the Microsoft Band.
It looks good - more a fitness band with good smart phone linking built in.

But what worries me about is the number of sensors, 'life tracking' and cloud processing of the data.

To get the best of the MS band you wear it all the time - awake and asleep. It is constantly sending information off to cloud servers to be processed. Heart rate, GPS, electrical skin conductivity, always on microphone - all kinds of things.

It just seems a step too far to be giving all that biological info away, especially when it is tied in with your phone.

I'm sure it can be used for all kinds of things - to tell your subconscious responses to particular adverts... who knows? People can be very clever about how they use data.

I don't mind putting the GPS function on to track my cycling or something, but the always on thing is firing a red flag


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 1:37 pm
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Interested, but more in the apps for now. Full app SDK has been out a while - much like when the smartphone app revolution happened, I'm fascinated with what people will develop for these tiny, connected, sensor-filled computers.

Unlikely to buy until the inevitable 2nd or 3rd iteration with a lower pricetag. By then my running and golf (for my sins) Garmins will be due for replacement and I fully expect something like this to take the place of them.


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 1:38 pm
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Still seems to me that this is just another shiny thing for the sake of being a shiny thing.
And this is a bad thing because ..?


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 1:43 pm
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Yeah, but it's quite nice to be able to plug your laptop in and charge your phone from it at the same time. Or plug in an external drive. Etc.

There will be adapters that allow you to use more than one section of the port at once so you can charge and still use USB.


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 2:11 pm
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Unlikely to buy until the inevitable 2nd or 3rd iteration with a lower pricetag.

Does the lower pricetag thing happen with Apple stuff? Premium pricing seems to be part of the Apple 'attraction'.
Or did you just mean smart watches in general?


 
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There will be adapters that allow you to use more than one section of the port at once so you can charge and still use USB.

I've been following this thread, but not clicked any of the links of looked in depth at any of the products, so I might have missed something.
Probably a stupid question, but what is the advantage of this (an adaptor), over just providing more USB ports? Size/weight? Sleek lines? Or is everything supposed to connect wirelessly?


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 2:19 pm
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Probably a stupid question, but what is the advantage of this (an adaptor), over just providing more USB ports? Size/weight? Sleek lines? Or is everything supposed to connect wirelessly?

Size and weight at a guess, take away a port and you gain a fair bit of space internally.

And you're right, as a user there's no advantage at all, if Apple could fit the ports while maintaining the aesthetics I'm sure they would have done.


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 2:22 pm
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Still seems to me that this is just another shiny thing for the sake of being a shiny thing.
And this is a bad thing because ..?

Cos it consumes natural resources for nothing more than vanity..?


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 2:22 pm
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Fair enough, I will remind you of that next time you post about something not in-keeping with your austere, frugal, eco-warrior lifestyle. 🙂


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 3:18 pm
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It's the price, even the crap one is £300!!!!

Not a hope in hell of me affording one.


 
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I will remind you of that next time you post about something not in-keeping with your austere, frugal, eco-warrior lifestyle.

Why? Does that reduce the environment into act of consumerism? Or does it just make you feel better?


 
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The bling ones are all gold. Yellow gold dropped out of fashion here a good few years ago (IMO). I guess there aiming for the asian market where gold is more popular?


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 9:26 pm
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Doesn't everyone here wear a Tudor?


 
Posted : 10/03/2015 10:21 pm
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Only when I'm scuba diving.


 
Posted : 11/03/2015 9:21 am
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Who's going for the gold one?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-11/knight-no-temptation-for-this-apple/6303808


 
Posted : 11/03/2015 12:54 pm
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Proppa watches

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Oooh - the excitement of all the little icons that told you how many features Casio was able to pack into such a compact package!


 
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Waterproof to one metre?
Laughable!

Yes but if you are wearing it on yer bike lyke it'll be fine if you snot on it or when finished riding and popping into the Wine Bar you can spill Vino on it with no worries, lyke.

Not really intended for Windsurfing is it..


 
Posted : 11/03/2015 1:53 pm
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"Good thing" about the adapters for the Macbook is that they will cost ~$50, so ~£50 each at an enormous margin for them. It's a good thing for Apple......


 
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Doesn't everyone here wear a Tudor?

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Posted : 11/03/2015 6:51 pm
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About as useful as this once the battery goes flat
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There all a bit of a gimmick really I mean is it that much of a hardship to reach in your pocket to pull out you phone to check a text?

Dont get me wrong once they have evolved enough we will probably all be wearing some kind of variation on the things but your probably looking at 5 to 10 years in the future, smart watches have already been around for a couple of years and yet I have never ever seen someone with on or know anyone personally that owns or wants one.


 
Posted : 12/03/2015 11:41 am
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Apple's thoughts on their new products 😉


 
Posted : 12/03/2015 1:38 pm
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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/chinese-makers-roll-wave-apple-watch-lookalikes-060125084--finance.html#Db8FXnW

Looky-likies are available before the Apple ones are even out in the shops!!


 
Posted : 12/03/2015 4:26 pm
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I do so hope that this is real!

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Posted : 13/03/2015 12:59 pm
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"Good thing" about the adapters for the Macbook is that they will cost ~$50, so ~£50 each at an enormous margin for them. It's a good thing for Apple......

It's not like it's some Apple proprietary thing, USB-C is an open standard that's been coming for a while. The new version of the Chromebook Pixel uses it, I'd expect it to be in lots of new products very soon. I'd bet by the time the Macbook ships (in a month or so) there'll be AmazonBasics versions of those dongles plus countless cheaply made Chinese clones too.

If anything, the move to USB-C is a step further from Apple lock-in - if your power adaptor fails then you'll be able to buy any generic USB-C one of the right power rather than £70 for a new Apple one.

Remember when the iMac launched with those new fangled USB ports that no-one made peripherals for but lacked [i]utterly essential[/i] features like a floppy drive? In a couple of years the old bulky USB plugs will look very old hat.


 
Posted : 13/03/2015 1:23 pm
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