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...how about you agree give me a euro etc...
.Do you agree to do the same for every brexit comment comment found that sounds racist, xenophobic or bigoted ?
Put your money where your mouth is or shut your hole.
Its the start of a sunny bank holiday weekend. So I’ll shut my hole thanks. I didn’t realise you’d shit your pants that much. Sorry dude.
Good boy.
Anyway, has JY really had a lifetime ban?
Two pages and it’s gone to shit.
It’s almost like the good old days.
I was was just thinking the same thing. Almost gives one a warm nostalgic glow
These threads always go to shit - if you’re expecting anything else you’re just setting yourself up to be disappointed.
I did notice that Junkyard had been posting some opinions recently that were diametrically opposed to his usual political stance – maybe his log-in has been hi-jacked?
I caught one of those and thought the same. It was almost like he'd taken a different stance just to have something to argue - which didn't seem typical.
STW does seem to have become more of an echo chamber recently. Post an opinion not in keeping with someone else's world view and you are accused of trolling. Too many closed minds all nodding at each other.
*nods*
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EU immigrants are overwhelming positive in their contributions to the economy - thats the truth. Pay more in tax and take less in services that Uk citizens. Losing them is a huge loss to the economy and the country - see the NHS for a clear example.
so yes - wanting to "control immigration" is xenophobic at best.
DD - according to him yes - I "speak" with him off forum
Zokes is gone as well. He didn't want me to say but being the snide shite I am he is not allowed to go quietly. Banned
So, was it arguing over Brexit then that caused people to give up on the forum ?
Dunno about that but it was the acceptance of abuse of leavers that seemed to drift past moderation that certainly made me think less of this place. Brexit bashing is an STW editorial stance judging by some of what has featured on the forum, as a result I post here less ( tilts head, as hears cheering offstage) as being accused of racism makes me a touch... well touchy.
Almost gives one a warm nostalgic glow
As does radiation poisoning...
Zokes is gone as well. He didn’t want me to say but being the snide shite I am he is not allowed to go quietly. Banned
Really? Well ain't that a **** you very much from the powers that be.
Was it zokes that hacked junkyards account then?
eddiebaby - I think that " abuse of leavers" was too things - one perceptions ( IMO remainers got a lot of abuse) and more importantly reaction to the piles of piffle posted by THM
Was it zokes that hacked junkyards account then?
Too easy to guess his password. Four letters, soy bean curd. Seriously though, bollocks. Didn't realise he was gone. I face the bacon trolls alone 😪
I don’t like this banning malarkey. I’ve been fairly relaxed and philosophical about the whole forum update thing because I’ve figured that it will get there in the end, but this banning of individuals that aren’t blatantly abusive, astroturfy or massive trolls sticks in my throat a bit. Would really like to hear a mods side of things before making my mind up, but I really don’t like it.
Junky and Zokes, oh dear. TSY and Don Simon I miss.
There is too many folk who added a lot to this place missing. the forum is less for their lack. not just those two bannees but loads of others who have not been seen since the great upgrade fiasco
Junky and Zokes, oh dear.
Yeah, that's a crappy thing to do.
TJ; agreed. Feels a bit like a death spiral, and banning a couple of the most entertaining posters strikes me as a self defeating move.
Others missing as well. Jamba appears to have taken his ball home, CFH as well. Other who made this place what it is are hardly seen or have gone missing.
THM who apparently is not banned disappeared in mid argument after being reported by several folk
I am sure I am on very thin ice as well so had better shut up or I will be "disappeared"
In fairness, you are living proof that lifetime bans are badly named 😉
Always been a lurker more than a poster, but posted for the first time in two years last night and got some helpful replies.
Good. Please keep posting.
This place is always changing. I miss some of the old regulars, but not all.
We went through a bit of a golden period after some people left/were banned, then IMHO we've had an awfully bad spell of deliberate nastiness and very unpleasant trolling, the Corbyn and Brexit threads being a prime example. Hatred for the sake of it, a deliberate attempt to set people against each other and encourage the worst aspects of human nature.
It affected all of us, even Molgrips, a genuinely nice bloke who seems to have become a bit jaded by it all.
On the upside, we've some great new posters - hats off to Saxon Rider for posting some topics genuinely worth debating.
I like Junkyard. He's a genuinely decent man who comes across badly on here. He'll be missed.
However, the Update thread has really shown some other people I've respected for ages in a very unpleasant light. I'm not a fan of bans, but some people really, really need to piss off and not come back - they contribute nothing and suck the life out of the place.
Here's to the lurkers. Get stuck in, ignore the trolls and make this a better place.
You say that. I actually don't know if either of those you mentioned (and others who've gone) actually own a bike, let alone ride? I know the "bantz" is a big appeal of this forum, but I originally joined for bike advice/chat and in that respect I find it as friendly & useful as ever. Not really fussed about the professional trolls/arguers (delete as applicable!) tbh.Others missing as well. Jamba appears to have taken his ball home, CFH as well. Other who made this place what it is are hardly seen or have gone missing.
+1Here’s to the lurkers. Get stuck in, ignore the trolls and make this a better place.
I own a few bikes, thanks. Mainly ride my Brompton and my gnarmac bike these days though.
Unless you post a picture of a Diverge with mudguards, I'm afraid no one's going to believe you....🙂
Mark (resident grumpy) hasn't posted in a while, wonder what became of him 🤔
He probably got a ban that couldn't be undone. Or something.
Mark (resident grumpy) hasn’t posted in a while, wonder what became of him
They tried to "upgrade" him.
It didn't go as expected.......

2 weeks flies right on by eh..
I suspect those that either got banned or those that have decided to stay away for a while are watching this thread with great interest..
Popularity ain't what it used to be.
Definitely a lack of wimmin posting.
If perchy goes It'll be a bad day. His humour keeps me coming back.
Good boy.
Patronising, much?
EU immigrants are overwhelming positive in their contributions to the economy – thats the truth. Pay more in tax and take less in services that Uk citizens. Losing them is a huge loss to the economy and the country – see the NHS for a clear example.
so yes – wanting to “control immigration” is xenophobic at best.
Can’t argue with that, but I actually think that, for a significant number of Leave voters, it’s uncontrolled illegal immigration that’s the issue, not those who have come here legally, have jobs and who have contributed significantly to this country, and to our society in general; certainly, all of the immigrant workers who I’ve been in contact with over the last few years have been really lovely people, who it’s been an absolute pleasure to work with, something that can’t always be said of others I’ve been forced to work with who are native to the UK...
Definitely a lack of wimmin posting.
How do you know I ain’t a wimmin?
I might just be posing as a middle aged fat bloke just to fit in?
On the internet, nobody knows you’re a dog.
Wait, the weather's been nice. Are people actually.... errm, actually... what was the question?
Is that why you’ve been looking a bit wuff lately, Perchy?
Woof!
Mostly lurking these days when I visit every couple of weeks to see if they've finished faffing with the forum.
10 minutes without pop up warnings, looking promising...
Anyone seen the Tractor Trumps thread?
TT forum is lookin more attractive. At least the software works.
However, the Update thread has really shown some other people I’ve respected for ages in a very unpleasant light. I’m not a fan of bans, but some people really, really need to piss off and not come back – they contribute nothing and suck the life out of the place.
This, so much this.
And Zokes was entertaining? 🙈
Bear with me here, but maybe, just maybe..........
People are out riding actual bikes!
Edit - Sorry I went a bit crazy there for a moment. Ignore the above. Think I need to go for a lie down.