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As a (pessimistic) Liverpool fan I'm going 3-1 to Everton.
Everton 2-1....just for the comedy value.
liverpool to win, as the lazy bastards might actually try this week. They've taken underperformance to being an art form lately
best thing the new owner could do is let hodgson have [u]absolute[/u] control over selection, buying/selling and make it clear to the team and fans that this is so. then you might see them try every week.
everton - well, they seem to play as normal but just not scoring. I guess they'll do OK longer term, but 3 today ? I doubt it.
(not a fan of either team)
From a fantasy league POV I'm hoping for a 1-1 draw, two no-marks grabbing the goals with very few shots all round. Hoprfully Gerrard will get subbed by the break without having any part in Liverpool's goal.
Well, I'm not going to fool myself; Everton should win now. I have no expectation with the situation as it currently is. I have no confidence in Hodgson, and neither do the players, it seems.
TBH, the best thing to do is clear out ll those who don't want to play for the club (like they're good enough to play for any other top team on their current form). The only ones I'd keep would be Gerrard, Torres, Kuyt, Reina, Carra and some of the youngsters. The rest are instantly replaceable. The irony is that those I've mentioned will probably leave, with the possible exception of Gerrard and Carra (who's just past it now anyway really). Leaving us with a pile of shite no-one wants. OK maybe keep Joe Cole because he is at least a talented player and a lot better than most of the rest of 'em.
Time to rebuild. The only way is to spend money, and loads of it, if Liverpool have any realistic chance of becoming a force once more. Their one saving grace is their terrific history and honours record. That'll be the difference between investment and the slide towards obscurity. Only time will tell if the new owners are now the [i]right[/i] ones.
Sorry, but Hodgson isn't the right man, imo. The best English manager in the PL is 'Arry. And he has a job already. Hodgson is a Fulham-level manager, nothing more. Unless he can turn things around very quickly (starting today), I can't see him surviving. He's had several months now, to prove himself, and bar a couple of good Euro results against little clubs, he's produced nowt of any note. I'd love him to succeed, but from what I've seen so far, I can't see even the faintest glimmer that he will.
Oh whell. 🙁
Sorry, but Hodgson isn't the right man,
Have faith young Padawan 8)
...anyways, could be worse. Could have had 9 points deducted.
I'm thinking 4-0 here.
😀
Thing is, right, Jose Moaninho has expressed a desire to manage Liverpool at some stage. That's the calibre of manager we need, not some bloke who has no record in English football, only in smaller European leagues.
If he can't lift this team, then he has to go. The financial impact of the previously unthinkable relegation is too much. It will take years, even decades, to recover from that. The owners and board can't allow this to happen. A couple of bad seasons in the PL is one thing; relegation would be catastrophic.
Hodgson out, Dalglish in for the interim period, get some spirit back in the side, then go from there.
Come on; Liverpool could be second from bottom by 2.30. Not acceptable. The manager is ultimately responsible for putting out a team that can at least try.
If he can't lift this team, then he has to go
el-fred, you make it sound like they're all terminally depressed or something. I'd assumed they were professional sportsmen who might need a coach and tactician, but why a motivator ? ... for a Mersey derby ??!!
fact is, they don't give a shit - they're there for the cash and they'll all bugger off if l'pool get relegated. If hodgson was able to say "If you don't try for me I'll drop you and then sell you or shove you out on loan - and the owner has told me I can do this to anyone I want" then they might just raise a gentle sweat during a match
Hang on, he's gone to 4-4-2...
Thing is. It's too late to be going bringing in one of these top managers now for this season. Lets face it, unless they get paid an obscene amount of cash over the odds then they're not going anywhere.
I'll probably regret this, but I reckon Liverpool will win this one. And I vote for giving Hodgson a proper chance.
Didn't realise it was a 2pm kick-off
😯
Liverpool in deep.
1:30pm kick off. Almost done.
I've been a Liverpool fan all my life, been going since 79 and I've never in all those years seen a team with so little fight, spirit, belief, confidence and passion in all my life! Hodgson is doing himself no favours whatsover with his useless tactics and the whole stink and smell of failure is reeking through-out the whole set up. They won't go down but I doubt they will get above mid-table and then god only knows where it will end up.
Don't believe they won't go down. As a Leeds fan I have been there - once the confidence goes, it is a hard road back.
2-0 to Everton?
Well, that's Everton's 'Cup' for this season, but will Hodgson still be in a job come Christmas? Or even the end of the month?
Sorry, but this is essentially the same squad which finished 7th last season, which was poor result. Can't blame anyone else but the manager. If you can't get a squad of reasonable decent players to produce a result, then you haven't got what it takes at top level. With each passing game, it becomes more frustratingly obvious that Rafa was in fact a decent manager...
Made up! 2-0 to Everton! And from listening to Talksport it seems Liverpool failed to turn up & play - FFS it isn't that far to walk between Anfield & Goodison.
What excuse will nasal Roy come up with today - can't use instability now can he?
Do the decent thing, Woy. I'm sure there's an Estonian club who'll be glad of your services.
Oh dear... 😀
Everton by 2 clear goals - my prediction was almost right...
Ha I thought it was 4pm kick off too. Oh well - wrong on every count. 😥
1 Chelsea 8 21 19
2 Arsenal 8 8 14
3 Man Utd 8 7 14
4 Man City 7 6 14
5 Tottenham 8 3 14
6 West Brom 8 -3 12
7 Bolton 8 0 11
8 Aston Villa 8 -3 11
9 Stoke 8 -2 10
10 Blackpool 7 -4 10
11 Everton 8 1 9
12 Fulham 8 0 9
13 Wigan 8 -9 9
14 Newcastle 8 0 8
15 Sunderland 7 0 8
16 Blackburn 7 -1 8
17 Birmingham 8 -4 7
18 Wolves 8 -5 6
[b]19 Liverpool 8 -6 6[/b]
20 West Ham 8 -9 6
apparently the next task for the rescuers of the Chilean miners is to visit Anfield and advise Roy Hodgson on how to get out of a ****ing big hole before Christmas.
Lanesra- that tables looking interesting . Not much in it at all and from an evertonians perspective a win next week at White hart lane and we'll be right back up there.
Lanesra.... 😯
How we missed you old chap. 👿
I was just thinking the same thing, DD.... 🙄
Time to rebuild. The only way is to spend money, and loads of it,
Is this not part of the problem?
Yes but there's no option any more. The only way to achieve success is to spend lots of money on the best players available. The days of youth academies producing the majority of a club's talent are long gone really. Time, therefore, for budget caps F1 style. Otherwise it's only the richest clubs who will win owt.
Holy gobshite resurection batman!
Couple of years ago they had Alonso and Mascherano in central midfield, now they have Lucas and Poulsen - there's the problem....
Yep. No need to spend huge money. Just need a sensible person controlling it.
I thought the chants were funny. The Everton fans were singing "Going down! Going down! Going down!"
to which the Liverpool fans replied "So are we! So are we!So are we!"
Scouse humour eh?
THe Daily MAsh had the measure of Liverpool some time ago
😀
The self-procalimed kings of Europe on a relegation nose dive - bring it on
I love how fans blame new managers that come in once the previous manager had bought crap players in 🙂
buck stops at the players and they simply don't give a @3$*!
Hodgson or any other manager needs to clear most of team out if Liverpool are going to survive this season!
The self-procalimed kings of Europe
Not self-proclaimed; check up on yer footie history. Five European Cups, Three UEFA Cups, Three European Super Cups. Most successful English club in European football history. The likes of Chelsea and Arsenal can only dream of such glory...
Hodgson or any other manager needs to clear most of team out if Liverpool are going to survive this season!
As I've said; this is essentially the same team that came 7th last season. And are now [i]nineteenth[/i].
Buck stops at Hodgson. If I were the new owners, I'd be interviewing for the manager's position from Monday...
...couldn't happen to a nicer set of fans.
Oh. Hang on .. er, yes it could.
Self-righteous, self-proclaimed cheeky chappys.
Elfinsafety +1
Not self-proclaimed; check up on yer footie history. Five European Cups, Three UEFA Cups, Three European Super Cups. Most successful English club in European football history. The likes of Chelsea and Arsenal can only dream of such glory...
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only as good as your last game and I for one am LOVING it
Agreed - Liverpool do have a great history and their history is the envy of most other clubs. Doesn't look like it'll help them this season though.
I was on a plane all day, and stepped into Heathrow to see this righteous result displayed before my eyes on a big screen in T5. A moment of sublimity, in an otherwise undistinguished day.
Looked easy in the end, as it should be given how terrible the RS are. But you can never be wholly confident when facing the forces of darkness.
Tis a shame about Liverpool, but they are a result of the sad state that the English game is in, at least at the top flight.
I am however, ready to celebrate, when Manchester United go bust, or when Fergie departs, which is going to happen. It's great to see any 'big team' struggle, it's what keeps the game interesting.
This season's bankers league has been immenseley enjoyable so far. Who else wanted Man City to get beat by Blackpool today? They nearly did get beat too. It's like a warped soap opera is footy, and all the better for it.
🙂
I should point out to the United haters that if you think we're going to go bust, you're living in cloud cuckoo land. We're not Liverpool. We're a very different animal. Instead of doing the usual scouse hang-ringing, self-pity and moaning, we've actually done something about it instead.
The fans have already got a consortium waiting in the wings. One that has apparently already raised £1 billion. But couldn't force the Glazers to sell. They'll go at some point. No doubt in the same manner as Hicks and Gillet. The difference is that we won't be out there whoring ourselves to anyone with the cash.
It'll be interesting to see how long it takes for this trans-atlantic relationship to go tits up. I'll give it til Christmas
[b]The fans have already got a consortium waiting in the wings. One that has apparently already raised £1 billion.[/b] But couldn't force the Glazers to sell. They'll go at some point. No doubt in the same manner as Hicks and Gillet. The difference is that we won't be out there whoring ourselves to anyone with the cash.
I'll give that a LOL if you don't mind.
To be fair to the Manc RS, the response of a lot of their support to the American takeover was first class from day one. Getting the amateur team going, the Norwich colours thing - a clear protest from the very beginning. Did fk all like, but was good to see. Very contrasting to the real RS, who meekly bent over to the highest bidder, and have now had to do it all again.
The fans have already got a consortium waiting in the wings. One that has apparently already raised £1 billion. But couldn't force the Glazers to sell.
Of course you have 🙄
if you think we're going to go bust, you're living in cloud cuckoo land
No you are.
Liverpool aren't in debt any more. Man U have debt of over Seven Hundred Million Pounds. I wouldn't be too smug if I were you....
Still, the sale of Rooney should net you £50 million or so, and you could always do some extra prawn sarnies to sell to the fans.
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Liverpool aren't in debt any more. True. You won't be in the premiership any more either, come the end of the season 😛
never realised the prawn sandwiches were on brown bread! now that is posh....
Well if things stay as they are, then you may well be right....
Somehow, I don't think the new owners will be too keen on letting that happen though...
Liverpool aren't in debt any more. True. You won't be in the premiership any more either, come the end of the season
I'll bet you a £1bn we will.
Surfer, dont. Financing Hora's alcoholism has left Binners virtually penniless. 🙁
Binners; Hora owes me £60. Sort him out, and half's yours.
Wooohoooooooo! Normal service is resumed. It was all starting to feel a bit odd. All this 'solidarity' with those at the other end of the M62 lark.
Lets get back to some good old-fashioned scouser baiting eh? We've been letting slip a golden opportunity. 😀
Ahem......
Park! Park! Wherever you may be
They eat dogs in your country.
But it could be worse
You could be scouse.......
Fred. I'll pop round and give him a shoe-ing on your behalf mate
'worse' doesn't rhyme with 'scouse' - at all.
Thanks Binners. Bitch-slap him for me, would you? Ta. Blow some cig smoke in his face too.
Meanwhile: [url= http://www.caughtoffside.com/2010/10/17/liverpool-line-up-frank-rijkaard-as-replacement-for-exit-bound-anfield-boss-roy-hodgson/ ]Rijkaard to replace Hodgson?[/url]
Yes.... but the end of the last line does. Which I've left off so as to not be too offesive. Google it 😀
"Not self-proclaimed; check up on yer footie history. Five European Cups, Three UEFA Cups, Three European Super Cups. Most successful English club in European football history."
you forgot to add the 38 Italians...
you forgot to add the 38 Italians...
Are you Lanesra in disguise? Surely you must be...I can't think of anyone else that could be so offensive 😐
Disgusting. Can't be bothered with this any more.
Footie banter is one thing; Fizzer, you're bang out of order.
To be fair to him, he's been trying all day with not much results...when you're a bit thick, you're only option is to keep stooping lower and lower.
39 btw. Cretin.
39 btw. Loser.