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Since when has "Everesting" been limited to just one climb/
Yet another modernisation of a perfectly idea!
Sounds dull as ****.
It is the modern way.
Seen a couple guys on strava doing it ... riding the same climb over and over all day.
They need to get a hobby or something; gotta be more interesting things to do with their time.
Why would anyone give a shit?
Just like riding a XC race, repeating the same bit over and over again.....
At least it's outdoors rather than some simulator hooked up to a turbo trainer.
Why the hate? Riding 8500+ metres is a fairly big deal, as well as a logistical nightmare...
Why would anyone give a shit?
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A valid point re XC racing scotroutes....
[quote=Nobeerinthefridge ]A valid point re XC racing scotroutes....
And let's not even think about Track....
It's always been one climb!
Up and down the same bit of road - no loops and no partial climbs in order to miss out a steep bit. Seems perfectly reasonable. No-one is making you ride one.
A mate put together an Everest Ride local to me, it's just a regular ride featuring 8848m of climbing. We've got plans to ride it this summer, three of us cos we've all done a "traditional" Everesting and this seemed like a good idea when casually mentioned in a pub at some point over winter...
palmer77 - Member
Why the hate? Riding 8500+ metres is a fairly big deal, as well as a logistical nightmare...
Right up there with the Guinness book of records for sitting in a bath of baked beans. Not something you'd want to do yourself - and only seems a big deal to the people who actually do it.
and only seems a big deal to the people who actually do it.
Not really.
I don't do it, but I can appreciate it's not an easy thing to achieve and quite a big deal.
Not really.
I don't do it, but I can appreciate it's not an easy thing to achieve and quite a big deal.
Agreed. I've done a few day rides with close to 5000m of climbing, adding another chunk to that is impressive. Plus the mental toughness of going up and down the same climb.
[quote=mattsccm ]Since when has "Everesting" been limited to just one climb
Since forever. You can hardly claim to be Everesting when climbing K2.
Exactly. Like climbing Ventoux Five and a half times is the same as sitting in a bath of beans 🙄
And this is supposed to be a cycling forum 😆
Quite a challenge for sure, and ideal for something to do as a charity event, but a bit of a yawn-fest to do just for the hell of it.
A little surprised by the hate , sure it's not for everyone but we can all appreciate the challenge of it, can't we ?
But it's not like going up Everest is it. Most get a Sherpa to carry their baked beans to base camp, that's 5,400m gone and then there's the 'death' zone that kills you.
'Everesting' is nothing like 'Everesting' just hard in a different way, but you probably don't risk death quite so much (or the squits)
I can appreciate the challenge of doing that much climbing. I can't see any point to doing it all on the same climb though. It's like the difference between riding the length of the country, and riding the same distance as laps of a roundabout. And yeah, the arbitrariness of "the height of everest" seems odd because you don't start at sea level.
How about reverse everesting? Descend 8800m of proper offroad in a day. That's pretty much exactly 16 runs of fort william dh (I've done 13 and a bit and a day and rubbed off quite a lot of skin in the process), or 11 runs down Black 8... Or, um, about 72 runs of Sheepskull
Basic problem is finding a road ride etc. with 8500m of climbing that is a practical distance. Doing the laps means you can get the climbing done.
@mikenewsmith - the Everesting site lets you choose a Strava segment and it will tell you how many times you need to climb it and how far in distance you'll have to ride.
As for doing it, well it's little different to riding round in circles in forestry at a trail centre.
Sorry my point being finding a non repeating way of doing the climbing is ambitious for most people unless you happen to have a decent mountain range https://www.strava.com/challenges/rapha-rising-circle-of-death
I don't think it relates to racing xc in the slightest, nor trail centre laps. It's a brutal challenge and I'm impressed by people who do it. Can't see why anyone would have an issue with it, unless they were jealous of the required fitness and mental fortitude.
I'd be more impressed if someone rode a fat bike to the top of actual Everest though.
Does it count if you do it on an ebike? Then put it on strava as a 'normal' ride?
Sorry my point being finding a non repeating way of doing the climbing
Did they change the rules? I always thought (if you wanted them to recognise it at least) it had to be the same segment both climbing and descending, ie no loops.
Some local lads did 10,000m in a day last summer, riding 9 cols in the Pyrenees. 305km and 17 hours in truly filthy weather.
Has anyone done it on zwift yet?
Has anyone done it on zwift yet?
It can only be a matter of time.
Someone did LEJOG on a semi-custom turbo trainer with a virtual reality headset streaming Google Streetview so I'm sure it won't be too long before someone sets up a turbo on an inclince programmed to switch between +10% and -10% gradients to mimic it!
I frequently toy with this idea...
I think the challenge is to find the 'ideal' climb to do it on.
We've a good one near me, but...it's too 'involving' on the descent - I think you need a descent where you can switch off and just criuse.
After 20 hours I'd not want to deal with some of its corners.
Also, do you choose steep and short, or long and shallow...???
I think it's something like 60 times up ditchling beacon..
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ferrals - Member
Can't see why anyone would have an issue with it, unless they were jealous of the required fitness and mental fortitude.
I think you misreading things; it's not people having an issue with it ... it's quite the opposite; it's just a silly insignificant pointless thing to do.
Jealous of the required fitness? Every one I have seen has just been them plodding up & down all day ... I am sure a good level of fitness is required, but hardly an elite level fitness.
And mental fortitude? Really?? as far as I concerned it just means they got nothing more interesting to do ... even Coronation Street re-runs gotta be more interesting than the same 3mile piece of road
I was planning on doing it a couple of years ago when super fit. Mainly for the challenge, back then I was already doing several hill rep sessions a month in prep for it. Then I had 2 kids.
I will do it, as like the south down way, lejog, 24hr mtb race, it's all about the challenge. You reach some dark places when you push yourself that hard. I like coming out the other side....
Current challenge is surviving 2 under 2 with some semblance of fitness 🙁
We've a good one near me, but...it's too 'involving' on the descent - I think you need a descent where you can switch off and just criuse.
After 20 hours I'd not want to deal with some of its corners.
A guy I know did one fairly local to me recently. The descent is definitely 'involving' 20% in places and a humpback bridge that you can get air off. Bloomin nuts these folk
Jealous of the required fitness? Every one I have seen has just been them plodding up & down all day ... I am sure a good level of fitness is required, but hardly an elite level fitness.
Nobody's saying it is elite level fitness, but you're kidding yourself if you think that amount of effort isn't going to really hurt.
And mental fortitude? Really?? as far as I concerned it just means they got nothing more interesting to do ... even Coronation Street re-runs gotta be more interesting than the same 3mile piece of road
That's the point he was making. It is less interesting than Corrie, which makes it bloody hard to keep switched on for. Then potentially you do have to make sure you're switched back on so you don't kill yourself on the descent
It doesn't pass the fun test for me so I'm out.
I don't see it as "fun", well certainly not type 1 fun, it's probably type 2 fun - better in retrospect. It's a challenge, not all challenges are "fun", sometimes they are about seeing how deep you can dig, how far you can push yourself, etc.
Ian Barrington has done a couple - this is [url= https://ianbarrington.com/2016/08/01/everesting-the-devils-elbow/ ]his first[/url] - interesting about the attitude, etc., required.
As for Corrie? I'd prefer to have all my fingernails and toenails pulled out!
When someone does it on a challenging MTB singletrack of at least 300m vertical at over 15% average gradient I'll take interest.
A friend of mine did it on a local 160' hill - 186 reps. To which I say chapeau! Isn't most of what we do essentially pointless?
And mental fortitude? Really?? as far as I concerned it just means they got nothing more interesting to do ... even Coronation Street re-runs gotta be more interesting than the same 3mile piece of road
I did it for exactly that. Mental challenge. It was quite interesting actually, you've got calculations ongoing about pace, number of laps left, eating/drinking and so on. Some of it was simply a case of switching the brain off and not overthinking things, just turning the pedals. The climb changed throughout the day as well from crack of dawn, through the busy part of the day and finishing in early evening when it was near deserted again.
Richpips off here also did one (about 3 years ago now) - I think for more or less the same reaosns, just to prove to himself that he could do it.
When someone does it on a challenging MTB singletrack of at least 300m vertical at over 15% average gradient I'll take interest.
Looks like you've set your own challenge there pal 😉
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Richpips and mini pips are on the [url= http://trackleaders.com/highland17 ]HT550 ATM[/url]
"It's always been one climb!"
But that's my point. Its hasn't.
Yes, the Strava generation have created another version and all that junk but we would attempt, I doubt we finished one, Everest days in the mid 80's. The whole point was to do the height but avoid repetition, just like any mountain climb.
I guess like anything nowadays, the quick fix, even for something as tough as this, is the way to go. Of course its hard but not as hard as it should be.
(Wanders of, bemused, looking for his 531 Raleigh to see if the tubs still have air in them .)
I started doing one last year, up and down the Chevin, Otley, Yorkshire. I did about 6 climbs, then was just genuinely bored by it all. I wasn't going to do it in one go, but decided half killing myself was not why I enjoy cycling.
The guy I mentioned earlier spent nearly 19hrs in the saddle on he same hill, no flat sections getting to each climb. Everesting is also limited to a 24hr period. Just going on a ride with the equivalent climbing just isn't really going to happen
andy8442 - Member
I started doing one last year........ I wasn't going to do it in one go
So you weren't everesting then? Confused
Everesting is also limited to a 24hr period. Just going on a ride with the equivalent climbing just isn't really going to happen
Tourmalet - Aspin - Peyresoude - Portillon - Bonne Agua - Canto - can't be far of (with a tent and minimalist camping gear on the bike).
How about reverse everesting? Descend 8800m of proper offroad in a day. That's pretty much exactly 16 runs of fort william dh (I've done 13 and a bit and a day and rubbed off quite a lot of skin in the process), or 11 runs down Black 8... Or, um, about 72 runs of Sheepskull
There was an article in WMB (RIP) back in, ooooh, about 2008, with some people who did that in the Alps. I think I may still have it somewhere (I think it had a chocolate brownie recipe in it)- I can see if I can find it if you're interested?
I like a chocolate brownie.
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Tourmalet - Aspin - Peyresoude - Portillon - Bonne Agua - Canto - can't be far of (with a tent and minimalist camping gear on the bike).
How are you sorting the massive amount of food and drink you'll need? The one near here cost him 12,000 calories and he lost 8lbs in the 24hrs, and he wasn't exactly packing extra weight at the start! Carrying extra gear will floor you too
It's a brutal challenge and I'm impressed by people who do it.
+1
100+ steps into my flat. thats what 20m ish? 25 years I have lived there and must average between 1 and 2 climbs a day so say 500 climbs a year - thats 500x20x25m = 250000m climbed ie best part of 30 Everests. do I win anything?
It's what you do as practice for joining the High rouleur society isn't it?
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Errr I did that route in 24hr, Legend. I left Pau after work and went through Lourdes at about 19:00. I camped between Tourmalet and Aspin and set out again in the morning topping the Canto at about 19:00 and spending the next night in Andorra. Food and drink was no problem, there are shops and bars along the route. The loaded touring bike was at least 8kg heavier than my roadie of the day (so 10% more all up weight). On the roadie I'd have got over the port d'Envalira too within 24hrs. I did that the next morning - along with the Col de Port and Portet D'Aspet, and a long haul home.
Fair enough, did it match/beat the required height?
I wasn't trying to break any records, I was just out for a ride, but a mental add up said "can't be far off" hence my post. All the climbs are on the web sites that give profiles so if anyone is keen they can add them all up, I'm not keen enough now, though as you've poked my curiosity I may later.
My post was to say "it can be done by just going on a ride". Even if my total is short, the total with the Envalira would definitely be enough, without the camping gear and mudguards that would have been a formality.
This thread has reminded me of a guy who rode up and down l'Alpe d'Huez for 24hr climbing it 14 times IIRC (edit: confirmed with Google Eric Lebacher in 2013).
It's something that interests me. The steeper the climb the less often you'll have to do it. Whenever I drive up/down Winnats pass I've thought that would make a good everesting venue as it very steep, visually interesting and has a grass path at the side for hooning back down clear of vehicles. Anyone fancy joining me one day?!
I've just been looking at the climb up to Cairngorm ski-slope from Glenmore. I'd need to do 29 "laps". The most I've done to date is 4 😥
It's something that interests me. The steeper the climb the less often you'll have to do it. Whenever I drive up/down Winnats pass I've thought that would make a good everesting venue as it very steep, visually interesting and has a grass path at the side for hooning back down clear of vehicles. Anyone fancy joining me one day?!
Winnats has been done. By the same guy who's planned this "Everesting Ride" I mentioned back up ^^. Guy called Arne Beswick. Proper hill climb monster.
The climb is awful - too busy with cars and too steep on the descent to really let go of it and relax. 47 reps I think he did.
richpips did his on Mam Tor/Mam Nick, the road climb the other side coming out of Edale Valley. Think his was 46 reps. Better on the descent but it's still got some twisty bumpy bits where you need to take a bit of care.
Mine was on The Struggle out of Ambleside, only 22 reps on that. There's an art to finding the right hill. Too long and shallow (like Cat & Fiddle) and you'd end up having to ride 400+km.
Too short and you have to do 100+ reps. Too steep and you end up knackered or just crawling up it in silly low gears.
The steeper the climb the less often you'll have to do it
No, the more gained the fewer reps. That's not a function of gradient at all. As CL says I think Winnats would be awful. Too steep for my liking, and too many sheep.
Don't quite get why people are so scathing. It's a great accomplishment IMO. Far more demanding than a 24 solo. I'm not sure Edukator's ride spread over 3 days really counts. That's like saying Tour Divide counts!
do I win anything?
A slow clap and a 🙄 for being stupid?