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Another unintended consequence of Brexit - UK cities forced to withdraw from the 2023 competition.
Sure, the cities would/should have identified this as possible risk.
Sure, the cities would/should have identified this as possible risk
They did.
To be fair, if Hull can get to be it, it must be a bit of a Pisstake award at the best of times, no?
Dunno why it matters really, Brexit voters are anything but cultured anyway.
Just change all the references of Europe to Commonwealth on the paperwork and promo stuff instead.
Leeds - the 1st Commonwealth City of Culture. 😀
Hull is the UK city of culture, we can carry on with that 🙁
Liverpool was European city of culture, that was ace and left a lasting legacy
Agreed was very good for Liverpool
My local brexiter MP complaining MK no longer eligible after all the work (and money) they've put toward the bid.
****ing moron
Liverpool won it a few years ago, now were almost invaded by well educated, intresting europeans on day trips, long weekend or even working here, sadly the brexit muppets have thrown the entry key away.
Not these ones then? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-42095094now were almost invaded by well educated, intresting europeans on day trips, long weekend or even working here
They should be forced to change the name to the European Union City of Culture
Europe Yes, EU No
They should be forced to change the name to the European Union City of Culture
It’s open to cities from:
EU (and Candidate) Member States
EFTA Member States
EEA Member States
So yeah, let’s call it the EU-EFTA-EEA City Of Culture. That has a nice ring to it don’t you think.
How can anyone be surprised by this? As soon as the brexit vote came in they should have stopped working on their bids. However it is framed ("Europe yes EU no" nonsense) the brexit vote was a massive two fingers to the rest of Europe so good on them for taking their toys away and reserving them for true friends.
Because as of today we qualify as we've not left the European Union yet and nobody knows upon what terms we will leave...if we actually ever do. We may end up with a EFTA type of deal...who knows.
It's just politicking by the EU to try to influence public opinion in their favour while the negotiations are on. If not why didn't they DQ us as soon as we voted for Brexit, or later on when we had a better idea the shape of the deal. The timing is obviously aimed at hitting the bidding cities at the worst possible time.
So yeah, let’s call it the EU-EFTA-EEA-[b]EU_candidate[/b] City Of Culture. That has a nice ring to it don’t you think.
How can anyone be surprised by this? As soon as the brexit vote came in they should have stopped working on their bids
The referendum was to leave the EU - we were all told that we wouldn’t leave the single market, we’d still be in the EEA. So it was perfectly reasonable to continue working on their bids - they weren’t to know that a narrow vote to leave the EU would be transformed into a cast-iron mandate to leave everything vaguely European.
Isn't the rhetoric (in the absence of any facts because the government isn't giving any) around us leaving all the mentioned qualifiers? So the EU are right to say bugger off then.
The timing is obviously aimed at hitting the bidding cities at the worst possible time.
Sometimes it feels as if they really do have all the cards. 🙁
DrJ, I’m good with that. Rolls off the tongue even bettererly.
So yeah, let’s call it the EU-EFTA-EEA City Of Culture. That has a nice ring to it don’t you think.
EFEU City of Culture?
[i]"..has come completely out of the blue."[/i] says Hilary Benn, despite the article also noting that:
[i]In December 2016, the UK government said the competition would "run as normal", but did warn bidders that it "may be subject to" the Brexit negotiations.[/i]
Does this mean we're not European anymore, as in part of the continent of Europe? I mean we were part of the continent of Europe long before we joined the Common Market, have the EU changed world geography?
'Your'e not a member of our club anymore & we want our ball back'
'Your'e not a member of our club anymore & we want our ball back'
‘We don’t want to be in your club, we’ll stop paying the fees, and we’ll make life hell for your people - can we still use the facilities though?’
Does this mean we're not European anymore, as in part of the continent of Europe?
No, it means we are not eligible to take part in an EU run programme that requires entrants cities to be in the EU, EFTA, EAA or be candidates for joining.
Please tell me the same will apply to the Eurovision song contest. At least that's a glimmer of a silver lining.
Am I allowed to find this funny? Just a little bit?
What did we think would happen?
The Brexies have trashed this country. Sooner or later they’ll start to realise that. This is definitely not the worst thing the Brexies are responsible for.
Brexies are gonna really shit the bed the next time they watch the Ryder Cup and see all those blue and yellow flags flying.
Its odd the more vocal you were on leaving the EU the more surprised and upset you seem about this
No and no one has claimed it hasDoes this mean we're not European anymore,
Basically if you dont buy a lottery ticket you cannot win the lottery - why is this having to be explained to people?
There is of course nothing stopping us unilaterally claiming our crappest city to be the European City of Culture once we leave but I fear they might laugh at us and not lend us the official bunting.
Basically if you dont buy a lottery ticket you cannot win the lottery
What? Are we out of the Euro Millions too?
😉
Turkey took our place 😉
No point winning a load of € anyway. The €zone crash is scheduled for the week after next, once France and Germany are fully Islamified.
Sits back and giggles..
Chuffing idiots, but I’ve said that all along.
I giggled earlier when some lady was on PM saying that since Liverpool was named ECOC in 2008, they had doubled their tourism budget and attracted extra 9.7 extra visitors.
It's funny how Brexiters act exactly as if we're being forced out of the EU, not leaving voluntarily*. You'd think, with all the amazing opportunities to come with Brexit, they'd be happy to settle the leaving bill quickly, be completely happy to be out of the City of Culture, be delighted to sort out the leaving issues quickly so they can get on with gambling in the green fields of Brexit freedom.
Instead, they keep whining that we won't be able to keep using all the EU things they said we didn't need, and were better off without.
It';s almost as if they know it's going to be a colossal, decades-long mess, but they just don't want to admit to themselves quite how badly they've screwed up the country.
*Of course us Scots, among with the Northern Irish, Londoners, Gibraltarians etc aren't leaving voluntarily, we're being forced out because the largest partner in this partnership of equals tells us to.
Surely it’s an expected and quite reasonable outcome as the awarded city receives not only the title but EU funds to develop and deliver the cultural legacy.
Brexiteers now accusing the EU of being unreasonable while post brexit wanting the cake and eating it?
Press release from Leeds Council does not refer to them having identified exclusion resulting from Brexit as a risk.
Typically, a bidder in any large scale project would run a risk register with probability of event occurring and likely costs if it does; register would be 'dynamic' so subject to ongoing amendments.
This would/should be part of the cost projection.
Would be interesting to know the total abortive costs incurred by the UK bidders.
Would be interesting to know the total abortive costs incurred by the UK bidders.
I think we need a bigger spreadsheet for the list of "stuff we didn't expect" (That everyone else pointed out)
No, it means we are not eligible to take part in an EU run programme that requires entrants cities to be in the EU, EFTA, EAA or be candidates for joining.
It's clearly The Will Of The People that Dundee should not be European City of Culture. Can't argue with that.
Brexiters vision* for an alternative to “European City of Culture”
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*I say vision, but they don’t have any.. more a picture.
From the Mash:
'MILTON Keynes has been advised its European Capital of Culture bid would be unsuccessful even if Britain stayed in the EU and paid £350m a day.
Confirming the UK candidate cities would be excluded from the contest, an EU spokesman said: “It’s a shame about Dundee, Belfast and Leeds. They have some culture. Not what we Europeans would necessarily call proper culture, but they had the right idea.
“Nottingham was an odd one, but we honest-to-god just assumed that Milton Keynes was a joke.”
The spokesman added: “Anyway, we would hate for the people of Milton Keynes to think they lost out because of Brexit. That would be unfair and unhelpful to them in the long term. There was never the slightest chance they would even be considered.
“We’d be more likely to award the title to an abandoned bus in a scrapyard in Mogadishu.
“Was it actually a joke?”
*Of course us Scots, among with the Northern Irish, Londoners, Gibraltarians etc aren't leaving voluntarily, we're being forced out because the largest partner in this partnership of equals tells us to.
Actually plenty of Scots did vote leave. It was a UK wide vote and Scotland voted to stay in the UK.
If "us Scots" don't want to accept UK wide votes we can leave the UK when/if Indyref 2 happens.
Are we not part of Europe now.....
It's clearly just more lame propaganda.
Regardless of anything, BIG deal!
patriotpro - Member
Are we not part of Europe now.....It's clearly just more lame propaganda.
The rules stipulate that you have to be EU, EEA, EFTA or looking to join, rules that we apparently voted for in 2014
Its an EU award by an EU funded board, Leavers getting pissy about it is hilarious
Regardless of anything, BIG deal!
estimated to have generated £750m income from £150m investment when Liverpool had it, more to the point it has left a lasting positive legacy there
oi !
MK has a theatre district, well thats what its called
Actually plenty of Scots did vote leave.
"Plenty of" is still a minority - are you denying the fact that a sizeable majority of Scots voted to stay in the EU?
Actually plenty of Scots did vote leave. It was a UK wide vote and Scotland voted to stay in the UK.If "us Scots" don't want to accept UK wide votes we can leave the UK when/if Indyref 2 happens.
Well here's a funny thing. we were told that if we voted Yes to independence, we would be kicked out of the EU (membership being held by the UK not Scotland) and have reapply for membership. There's little doubt that many voted No to stay in the European Union. The choice many of "us Scots" (me not being one of them) was to believe the lies to told by the unionists - a bit like that £350M a week whopper told by the exiteers. A re-run of the referendum now would be interesting.
Kimbers - MK claiming to have a theatre district is fine even if they don't have one.
Be thankful they don't claim to have a Theatre or Cultural Quarter; Leeds & Sheffield are particularly keen on rebranding areas as Quarters.
Then in Lincoln we have the Cathedral Quarter.
What does it mean if there are more than 4 quarters?
Been done and I assume you can read a map and then read the eligibility criteriaAre we not part of Europe now.....
I assume you voted to eave so why are you upset about bringing back control and svaing £350 m per week?It's clearly just more lame propaganda.
Obviously you dont care at all hence why you moaned on a thread about itRegardless of anything, BIG deal!
oh it turns out captain blunderpants advised cities NOT to pull out of eu culture capital bids, despite gov warnings
What does it mean if there are more than 4 quarters?
Culture!
Or more specifically, too many arts degrees 😉
Ah, if only Boris' old man had pulled out.
However of all the miserable consequences of Brexit, this is pretty low on the shit-list TBF.
*Of course us Scots, among with the Northern Irish, Londoners, Gibraltarians etc aren't leaving voluntarily, we're being forced out because the largest partner in this partnership of equals tells us to.
I think you'll find that we had one vote each. You can of course divide up the votes however you want but the majority of people in the UK voted to leave (although none of us in the household). In the same way that Scots choose to stay in the Union, with one vote each.
I hold Gove, Johnson and Farage responsible for lying to the UK and they will be held responsible. But having chosen to leave the consequences are obvious - regardless of what the idiot Brexiters are telling us.
i think you will find that post did not disprove their point.